I am wanting to flash the perception build. I was wondering if I flash it will I lose my unlock? Im currently on cognition 2.3b6.
Thanks
Probably. I was unlocked and lost mine... if worried, back up your /efs folder - especially nv_data.bin. It takes some work, but it is possible to unlock again.
Wait so if I backup my /efs folder (on 2.2 right now), then I update, can I just replace the nv_data.bin on the i9000 firmware?
probably, I have not tried. But if you roll back, you have the original mv_data.bin (and md5) files to get you back where you were. If you don't have the /efs files, and your original unlock code, you can be stuck with no onluck, even on 2.1.
michael.seltzer said:
I am wanting to flash the perception build. I was wondering if I flash it will I lose my unlock? Im currently on cognition 2.3b6.
Thanks
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Yes you will lose your unlock but if you have your codes saved then just re-enter them and it will be good to go...if you don't have your codes there are methods to unlock again posted in the Dev forum...
So I have flashed a bunch of regular cognition builds and not lost my unlock , but since this is an i9000 rom its different.
Do I have that right?
Never lost my unlock after flashing any cappy/i9000 roms.
Have you flashed perception?
No but it makes no difference, flashing to stock jf6 and installing any rom won't make you loose your unlock, why would you think that would happen?
Get the sgs unlock app from the market, it'll show you your codes and save them on the sdcard just in case you still think you'll get locked.
already on 2.2 so i can't get my codes. I have flashed many roms not sure why i9000 roms would be different thats why i asked
michael.seltzer said:
already on 2.2 so i can't get my codes
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Flash back to jp6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Im not sure you understand once u go to 2.2 the codes are encrypted. going back does nothing, still encrypted somehow.
peachpuff said:
No but it makes no difference, flashing to stock jf6 and installing any rom won't make you loose your unlock, why would you think that would happen?
Get the sgs unlock app from the market, it'll show you your codes and save them on the sdcard just in case you still think you'll get locked.
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It has happened to many of us, so don;t tell people it can't happen.
Some combination of firmwares encrypts the data in the nv_data.bin and the result is that the unlock code that was saved no longer works.
The only solution is to replace or rebuild the nv_data.bin file so that the phone will accept an unlock code. Saving the /efs partition files before flashing is the only way to recover the original files, as flashing back to stock will not restore the /efs partition.
This issue affects all galaxy S phones, but no one has determined the exact cause other then flashing ROMs.
Oh, and SGS unlock just looks in the nv_data.bin for the codes, if the files are encrypted SGS fails, just like manually looking at the files with a hex editor fails.
michael.seltzer said:
Im not sure you understand once u go to 2.2 the codes are encrypted. going back does nothing, still encrypted somehow.
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There is a thread in the development section about unlocking 2.2 after the nv_data.bin is encrypted. This method works for 2.1 in the same situation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831569
There are tools that will rebuild your nv_data.bin file for you, I did mine manually (before the tools) but it worked. I was re-unlocked.
alphadog00 said:
It has happened to many of us, so don;t tell people it can't happen.
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I guess i was lucky, never happened to me, thanks for the info.
I was just thinking, is there a chance that the phones that AT&T sells without a contract are factory unlocked and this is the reason some of us don't get relocked after this procedures?
At least it would be a good explanation
So i'm still a little confused on this subject. Is it the i9000 rom that can cause relocks or it just roms in general?
rastanthology said:
I was just thinking, is there a chance that the phones that AT&T sells without a contract are factory unlocked and this is the reason some of us don't get relocked after this procedures?
At least it would be a good explanation
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No, there is only one model of the captivate and AT&T will not unlock the phone even if you buy it off contract. There have been a few exceptions, but not many.
If they were factory unlocked, no one would need to unlock to start with.
michael.seltzer said:
So i'm still a little confused on this subject. Is it the i9000 rom that can cause relocks or it just roms in general?
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Again,
I don't think anyone has determined the exact cause. No one has taken an unlocked phone and methodically flashed ROMs to see what order of events causes it to relock.
Many of us experimented with many different ROMs and at some point realized we were relocked.
i wnat relock my i9000
i want relock (carrier lock) my samsung i9000 any solution??
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I'm not too worried about undoing the rooting (unless there's an easy way) but how to I get back to Android 2.1 like I had when I first got the phone? Can I just install the stock ROM and where do I find it?
Thanks
kbeeveer46 said:
I'm not too worried about undoing the rooting (unless there's an easy way) but how to I get back to Android 2.1 like I had when I first got the phone?
Thanks
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Why would you want an unlocked bootloader with the OTA stock ROM? There is no way to relock the bootloader and regain your warranty.
CM is Android 2.1, just a better, faster version.
If you are concerned about OTA updates, the features are generally included in Cyanogen's ROM immediately upon release, but usually far before any OTA release.
No big reason why I want to right now but I like knowing there's a way to get back to stock in case something goes horribly wrong and I mess something up (and for the same reasons some of us reformat our computers often). I don't even notice a huge difference (speed and battery) running CM. I haven't installed many apps or themes though.
kbeeveer46 said:
No big reason why I want to right now but I like knowing there's a way to get back to stock in case something goes horribly wrong and I mess something up (and for the same reasons some of us reformat our computers often). I don't even notice a huge difference (speed and battery) running CM. I haven't installed many apps or themes though.
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you cant go back to stock...you will never have a locked bootloader again...yet
xsnipuhx said:
you cant go back to stock...you will never have a locked bootloader again...yet
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That's different than the stock rom, right? Is it possible to be unlocked and run the default rom that comes with the phone? Or is that combination not a possibility?
Sure you can do that, but I guess I just don't understand why...
You can always go back to stock everything except your bootloader will remain unlocked (unless someone finds a workaround or hack)
Anything you can screw up (except a bad radio flash) can be fixed by having an up to date Nandroid backup...
Just do what I do and make sure to Nandroid every other day or so. (Or before every time you change anything in the system/framework/boot/kernel etc.)
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619801
i think you can get the stock rom from here if you didnt do a nandroid backup
If i were going to sell the nexus one some time in the future, it would be good to know where the stock rom can be found. Some people don't want to be flashing ROMs all the time, and would prefer OTA updates. Once the phone is over a year old, the unlocked bootloader will be meaningless.
Simple, in the android development section at the top of the list as a sticky, [ROM] 22/Mar ERD79 -> EPE76 - Stock Nexus One images / zip / online kitchen / rooted, or heres the link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619801, it gives you the stock rom. happy flashing
ernvillanueva90 said:
Simple, in the android development section at the top of the list as a sticky, [ROM] 22/Mar ERD79 -> EPE76 - Stock Nexus One images / zip / online kitchen / rooted, or heres the link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619801, it gives you the stock rom. happy flashing
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The download links in that thread don't seem to work any longer. It just redirects me to the homepage. I probably need an account or something. Blarg.
EDIT: Still don't work even with an account.
kbeeveer46 said:
The download links in that thread don't seem to work any longer. It just redirects me to the homepage. I probably need an account or something. Blarg.
EDIT: Still don't work even with an account.
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That site uses an anti bandwidth stealing feature, just right click the link and save as.
This may be a noob question but I would like to modify/flash my phone but I have a question before I do. I have done a few searches to find an answer but came up with nothing so far.
I have been browsing the forums for different mods that you can do for the Samsung Captivate. Out of all the mods that I have seen (One Click Lag Fix, Root, Cyanogen, Leaked Froyo Build, GPS settings changes, Removal of AT&T bloatware, unlocking phone for other carriers, side loading enable, and various others), they can ALL be undone using the Odin3 One-Click Stock Rom process correct?
ttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Hoever, each captivate has unique phone identification information such as IMEI, Device ID, Wi-Fi MAC Address, etc? Are there any mods that change the unique information for each specific phone? If so, how does Odin3 One-Click Stock ROM process correct that? When Odin3 reflashes to "Stock" ROM, I just want to know how that works if each phone has specific information.
Thanks in advance!
yes they can be undone with odin one click, however once you stray from stock it is most likeley that you wont be able to update to the official 2.2 from att.
personally im going to wait and update to official 2.2 from att then root and nandroid backup and the fun will begin because I will have a backup of the official update with my unique device id to fall back on. in my opinion this is the safest way to make sure I dont screww myself and not be able to update. once that is done it wont be long untill someone builds a decent rom from scratch plus like I stated before I will have a nandroid backup of the update for my phone if I try something and dont like it.
If you still feel compelled I havent gone to the leaked 2.2 but I did have verry good results with stock 2.1 and voodoo lagfix on anather captivate. the phone was verry fast with verry few side effects well woth it if you really cant wait.. But just remember once you stray from stock I believe the only way you will get to 2.2 will be through these forums.
shadow65781 said:
But just remember once you stray from stock I believe the only way you will get to 2.2 will be through these forums.
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anyway whatever you get from these forums will be much faster and cleaner then stock versions...
anyway i got question about the topic - i had stock 2.1 (JF6), backuped it, tried some cognition 2.2 beta, then flashed with odin to stock and the restored my backuped jf6
did my IMEI, Device ID changed?
(wifi's mac address cannot be changed)
thanks in advance
I am speculating here.
I dont think it can change any hardware I.D info but software I.D is anather story it could possibly cause problems with the O.S interfaceing with other stuff like market.
someone with more knowledge please chime in
Theres a new app in the app store (as of a few days ago) that allows you to change your Android ID#. Called Android ID changer
Unfortunately, it won't figure out what your unique # is. If you install Cognition, you have the same ID# as everyone else.
I'm not sure about Odin - stock. My Odin 2.1 # is different than the Cognition one. Ends in 43b1. I'd be really interested to know if anyone else could check their Odin 2.1 eclair JF6 (all stock, not modified) android ID # and see if it ends the same as mine. If it's different, then that means you can always revert to JF6 to figure out your real #. If it's the same, then I guess that means for the time being your SOL for figuring that out for now.
You can always check it before making modifications....
Shadow; you are probably right, but at the end of the day software is all that matters...
Thanks for the responses. Judging from what I have been reading on the replies so far, nothing can bring me back to my original stock android 2.1 OS with all original software IDs my phone had even if I use the steps outlined in the
[STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY
forum post.
How do you find out what your android ID is?
gormander said:
Thanks for the responses. Judging from what I have been reading on the replies so far, nothing can bring me back to my original stock android 2.1 OS with all original software IDs my phone had even if I use the steps outlined in the
[STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY
forum post.
How do you find out what your android ID is?
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Just as long as you are running any of the stock eclair 2.1 without any mods all your unique id's wil display correctly, even if you have flashed to cog 2.2 or leaked 2.2 if and when you flash back to a truly stock eclair 2.1 the id's will return correct.
The android id changer app from the market will display the current android id your phone has when you open the app - it shows the current id just above the entry field where you can change your id. So download the app open it get you id write it down, save it in a safe place, then if you flash any rom the does not populate you unique id correctly you can reinstall the android id changer and enter your correct id manually.
Is [STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY method a "truly stock eclair 2.1" as you mentioned in your post Davy? Also, are there any other IDs I should be aware of and take note before I flash/mod anything?
Thanks.
gormander said:
Is [STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY method a "truly stock eclair 2.1" as you mentioned in your post Davy? Also, are there any other IDs I should be aware of and take note before I flash/mod anything?
Thanks.
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I believe odin 3 one click in that thread is a straight rom off a phone with samsung jf6 stock install - yes I'm fairly certain it is stock. There is another odin 3 one click for the leaked 2.2 which is obviously not stock.
If you download an app from the market named simply " ID " it still give you four of your phones id numbers for your info.
I'm pretty sure all your phones id numbers are either generated from hardware coded info or your google account - so as long as you gave properly coded software on your phone these wil always populate correct - even if you install something that messes these up of you remove the bad software replace it with good software it should then populate the id numbers correctly again.
Such as the android id in the leaked froyo that isn't being generated but simply being copied to every phone it is installed on - when you replace the froyo leak or any of the roms built off the leak with one of the stock samsung roms your phone will then generate the id correctly again.
No thread jack but i thought id ask in here.
If im rooted and ONLY rooted on 2.1 will that not allow me to update to official froyo?
Nickel Dime Bay said:
No thread jack but i thought id ask in here.
If im rooted and ONLY rooted on 2.1 will that not allow me to update to official froyo?
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maybe, maybe not. Some of the people who were rooted only (no mods) were able to update to the jh7 update. And from what I have heard mini kies has worked to update for everyone that flashed back to stock and tried to update that way - but this is all some what of a guess as we don't know exactly how att and/or samsung will role out froyo for the captivate.
You are all really funny. Your worried about getting an official OTA from AT&T so you won't mod your phones, lol. Your choice I guess but the last AT&T OTA bricked a lot of phones that had not even been rooted. The ROMS that you find on these forums are way better than any of the stock Samsung and AT&T put on them with their bloaty, buggy software. I won't do any OTA updates, I wait until the developers here fix them, remove the crap AT&T put's on them and speed them up. I give you guys credit though, staying stock sucks bad, it freaks me out to see that stock screen everytime I flash back to stock before flashing a new ROM to my phone. I only stayed stock for 2 weeks and never turned back, glad I did it too. I would've bought an I Phone 3g if I wanted to stay stock and not mod a phone. Go look around the forums and read the threads, don't just skim them or you won't learn anything. See what custom ROMS and kernels are cooking and what people are experiencing with them. We had the OTA rooted on here a few hours after the update was rolled out, you won't miss anything by not recieving it officailly from AT&T. Hell we already have some good Froyo ROMS and kernels. Keep waiting if you want but there's plenty of goodies here why wait?
Rhiannon224 said:
You are all really funny. Your worried about getting an official OTA from AT&T so you won't mod your phones, lol. Your choice I guess but the last AT&T OTA bricked a lot of phones that had not even been rooted. The ROMS that you find on these forums are way better than any of the stock Samsung and AT&T put on them with their bloaty, buggy software. I won't do any OTA updates, I wait until the developers here fix them, remove the crap AT&T put's on them and speed them up. I give you guys credit though, staying stock sucks bad, it freaks me out to see that stock screen everytime I flash back to stock before flashing a new ROM to my phone. I only stayed stock for 2 weeks and never turned back, glad I did it too. I would've bought an I Phone 3g if I wanted to stay stock and not mod a phone. Go look around the forums and read the threads, don't just skim them or you won't learn anything. See what custom ROMS and kernels are cooking and what people are experiencing with them. We had the OTA rooted on here a few hours after the update was rolled out, you won't miss anything by not recieving it officailly from AT&T. Hell we already have some good Froyo ROMS and kernels. Keep waiting if you want but there's plenty of goodies here why wait?
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Different strokes for different folks man, Its not like im using the tw3.0 and the blue bubble background lol ive customized stock 2.1 how i want it to look and its working PERFECT for ME, fast as hell, gps locks on quick etc. Flashing a rom is nice and all but the risk of bricking youre phone is high (theres always odin i know) and if stock is working for people then more power to them.
The way I look at it is, the phone belongs to you, do what you want with it or to it as you please.
but I do agree with one point above, I personally would not trust a samsung/att update to not mess up my phone. But that does not mean it won't work well for you or that you won't be happy with it that way.
gormander said:
However, each captivate has unique phone identification information such as IMEI, Device ID, Wi-Fi MAC Address, etc? Are there any mods that change the unique information for each specific phone? If so, how does Odin3 One-Click Stock ROM process correct that? When Odin3 reflashes to "Stock" ROM, I just want to know how that works if each phone has specific information.
Thanks in advance!
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IMEI can never change. I don't think your device ID can change buy your Android ID can change as you've been told by those before me. If it possible to change your WiFi MAC address, only I'm not sure how to do it. If you can do it in a full version of Linux, I don't see why it's not possible on our phones. Also, before you do any mods, make sure you backup a couple files onto your computer for safe keeping. The ones I'm talking about are in the /efs directory of your phone and relate to unlocking the phone for other networks. The second you go to mod your phone, these files will be erased and replaced with ones that are harder to get your unlock code out of.
Ok I have read basically all of the 'bible'.
My rogers captivate should be here tommorow i plan to root and flash it asap. Which 2.2 roms have HUSPA enabled; only deo? Or does cog?
Do I need to do anything to my rogers phone different then an ATT phone before flashing since it is named 96 not 97?
Thank you and sorry if this has been answered... I did read for about 2 hours before posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749548
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821323
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808286
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803569
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=816271
None of those are explaining to me this script to change 96 to 97?
nope, i just linked to the ones i actually knew the answer too.
But any custom rom I install will have all the ATT bloatware on it?
In theory you will already have been rooted meaning you can always remove any items you consider to be bloatware.
ralexand said:
In theory you will already have been rooted meaning you can always remove any items you consider to be bloatware.
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Yes, i guess this is true..
Sorry I was stuck with an x10 until i lost it this weekend... I am not used to freedom... Sony can suck donkey nuts, I will never buy another product from that evil company.
slayp00n said:
Yes, i guess this is true..
Sorry I was stuck with an x10 until i lost it this weekend... I am not used to freedom... Sony can suck donkey nuts, I will never buy another product from that evil company.
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*e-high-fives*
insaneturbo13 said:
*e-high-fives*
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Thanks, ill report back.
My new laptop is coming tommorow so I don't know if i will have time to take care of both.
Bear in mind, at this time there is no way to go back to the original Rogers firmware if you are unhappy with whatever AT&T firmware you flash. And you may as well use either the Device ID or Android ID app to get your device ID before you flash.
There is now a way to get back to stock Rogers firmware.
opcow said:
Bear in mind, at this time there is no way to go back to the original Rogers firmware if you are unhappy with whatever AT&T firmware you flash. And you may as well use either the Device ID or Android ID app to get your device ID before you flash.
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No way to go back? I thought after beta 6 of cognition you could flash back?
So even if i do a backup before flashing I cannot go back?
That's correct. ROM installations are not installed or backed up with backup software. There needs to be a ROM available of your shipped base ROM.
Here's an analogy based on a PC: You can backup XP; Then install Windows 7; But you cannot go back to XP from a backup of XP.
If I"m not mistaken, the closest you could come is to root your phone, install ClockworkMod Recovery, and make a Recovery Backup with that. (The PC analogy of this is 'making an image').
You could then restore that, but you would hvae a modified ROM. YOu can unroot that, and that would be the closest you would be to being back to stock.
One thing you want to be sure you do: after creating the backup, you want to copy that to your PC to be sure you don't lose it during any of your other activities.
One caveat: I'm not sure if the CWM supports your phone with your ROM, or if rooting is out for it, etc. You'll have to do a bit of due diligence before going down this path.
slayp00n said:
No way to go back? I thought after beta 6 of cognition you could flash back?
So even if i do a backup before flashing I cannot go back?
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The only stock Rogers firmware available at the time I wrote that was a nandroid backup and no one had success using it unless they still had Rogers firmware on their phone. There is now an Odin flashable version linked in this post. People report that they still see an AT&T logo when they boot even after using this to go back to Rogers firmware (I do too on my AT&T phone flashed with it). I don't know if there may be other issues.
yeah all that stuff is ready, and i planned to do cwm, im fine if that will restore to a rogers FW...
then maybe ill stay on the Rogers fw untill either a completely debranded CM6.1 comes, or they build a COG off rogers... Apparently from my due diligence, the rogers fw has much better gps.
Hi all,
I have flashed my phone a few times (actually only once to perception, and then recently back to stock before then flashing stock rogers 2.2 - as I didn't have internet at the time to use kies, even though I am US based). I am currently traveling around Europe, and will be heading to the UK soon from Sep-Dec. As such I would like to unlock the phone and use an Orange or Vodafone pay as you go sim.
Unfortunately when I tried to unlock the phone I was unable to, I am assuming because the rom on there (stock rogers 2.2) doesn't have some of the correct things...(sorry for not being more specific).
Right now my plan is to reflash back to stock 2.1 and try and unlock from there? I don't want to turn this into a "what rom should I use now" thread, but is there an good battery life 2.2 rom that would let me unlock. I've looked into flashing a 2.3 rom, but it seems like more work than I am willing to put in right now (although I'm sure it's not tooo hard, I don't have a ton of experience flashing, and I can't afford to really screw this phone up right now), especially with AT&T announcing they will be upgrading it to 2.3 sometime "soon" (hah).
Sorry I know this is a long post and not especially clear, but I'd really really appreciate the help.
thanks,
-Foofie
Hmmm, maybe flashing to gingerbread isn't as hard as I thought it was? According to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127249
it's just an odin 1 click now? Maybe it always has been and I'm an idiot, I wouldn't be surprised. So if I flash back to stock 2.1 and then flash to 2.3 using the above method (although I'm a bit confused about the extra files on that page, why do I need to change the kernel, how do I do so?) could I unlock the phone at that point? Or would I need to flash to a custom rom like cognition 5 or perception first?
Just flash to 2.1 root and unlock it from there. After that it will be unlocked and you can flash whatever. I've unlocked once six months ago flashed 1,000,001 times, still unlocked.
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Just flash to 2.1 root and unlock it from there. After that it will be unlocked and you can flash whatever. I've unlocked once six months ago flashed 1,000,001 times, still unlocked.
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Ahhh thanks, this is what I was hoping to hear!
So even flashing with Odin wouldn't reset the unlocking? Doesn't Odin wipe all the phone data?
Not ALL data. The efs folder contains the imei number which is unique to each device. Just make sure and back that up (the efs folder), so if you have any network connectivity issues you can restore your imei...
Thanks.
God flashing to 2.2 the way I did was a huge mistake. Trying to flash back to stock soft bricked (hopefully that is what this is) my phone. Trying to get heimdall running now so I can use the 1 click unbrick.
I have an ATT Captivate which I managed to update from original Android 2.1 to 2.2 firmware, version I897UCJI6.
This was before ATT release their official 2.2 update.
I also managed to unlock the phone.
I have to admit I am totally ignorant of this stuff, and I was lucky enough not to brick my phone during those updates.
I am very unhappy with the battery life of my phone, and I read that the Gingerbread dramatically improves this aspect.
So, shall I upgrade to Gingerbread?
If yes, I am confused with the many sites which offer advice with how to do this, some contradicting with others. (One indicated to reverse back to 2.1 before upgrading to 2.3, other didn't say that, etc etc)
Should this upgrade be successfull, what happens to the lock/unlock status?
Do I need to unlock again?
Which is a trusted site?
Any advice?
Thank you for any help
UnLock stays after flashing.
As for a trusted site.... Ummm you found it. Xda...
Thank you
Will this upgrade really improve battery life?
If not I'll stay with 2.2
I got Max of 18 or so hours on froyo, I can go over 2 days now. Ymmv though.
Thanks again
I assume this would be the thread to follow, right ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233620
Which indicates the use of this file : I897UCKH3_noboot.tar.md5 (dated 8/24/2011, 305191 KB)
I did find another file somewhere, presumably doing the same thing - that file name is:
I897UCKH3_HOME.tar.md5 (dated 8/19/2011 298421 KB)
I stated before I am kind of ignorant, and easily confused with all those information.
Which one is the right file?
Am I on the right track?
If you going to use KH3 without bootloaders you need to flash This bootloaders first.
Is there a thread for novices, where all those terms are explained, or where the procedures to be followed are explained for somebody who who can follow indicated steps (without really knowing the meaning of all those terms) which could lead to 100% success?
I don't mind reading a little, but I don't have time to become an expert (and I'm sure many readers here are like me, looking for plain simple advice on how to upgrade their phones, without having the skills and knowledge to do it)
Reading those posts here can be sooo confusing...
Somebody recommends you to do this, somebody recommends you to do that, and the poor you have no clue what they're talking about...
Simple if you want Gingerbread you need new bootloaders (except Cyanogenmod and MIUI). Bootloaders are like the BIOS in your computer. If you mess up the bootloaders you can hardbrick your phone.
Got it
Next logical question would be WHY the person who indicated how to upgrade to Gingerbread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233620) did not tell in his post that you need new bootloaders.
Or at least I do not see that in his post.
Which means that a novice like me can ruin his/her phone very easy..
No bootloader ODIN packages are made for people that already have the GB bootloaders. So you don't get a hard brick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232703
I believe this is what you want to use.
mirceani said:
Got it
Next logical question would be WHY the person who indicated how to upgrade to Gingerbread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233620) did not tell in his post that you need new bootloaders.
Or at least I do not see that in his post.
Which means that a novice like me can ruin his/her phone very easy..
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Flashing a GB ROM without GB bootloaders won't ruin your phone. May cause a bootloop, but not a hard brick. Cezar is super picky about things being safe. If you had hit the link he had for tips and tricks, it says something about bootloaders.
After reading all related posts, I am still confused - pls help:
I understand that if I follow Cesar's link, I need bootloaders first.
If I follow Przekret's link, I do NOT need bootloadres first (they are included)
So how do I decide which route to follow ? In the end I get the same result, GB 2.3.4 - correct?
I am currently on Froyo, UCJI6, rooted and unlocked.
Do I loose my rooting (I understand that unlocking stays)
Again, which method should I use (Cesar or Przekret) ?
Thank you
If you need bootloaders, don't use Cezars.
As these are stock roms, you will lose root. But if you flash any custom ROM, it should be rooted.
No method is incorrect. I would flash Bootloaders firs because there seems to be less chance to hard brick (I've noticed sometimes ODIN doesn't flash one bootloader after another). Thats my personal experience, but like I said neither of the methods are incorrect, I just never used the one with bootloaders included since I already had them when KH3 came out, so I can't speak for that package myself.
How do I know if I need bootloaders or not?
Unless you bought that phone modded with the GB bootloaders you need them. No real way to know except flashing a GB rom like cezars package. If it works You didn't need them, If it din't work then you soft bricked your phone and you might need a jig to get in to Download mode again.
mrhaley30705 said:
If you need bootloaders, don't use Cezars.
As these are stock roms, you will lose root. But if you flash any custom ROM, it should be rooted.
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sorry for my ignorance, what is a "stock rom" and what is a "custom ROM" ?
prbassplayer said:
Unless you bought that phone modded with the GB bootloaders you need them. No real way to know except flashing a GB rom like cezars package. If it works You didn't need them, If it din't work then you soft bricked your phone and you might need a jig to get in to Download mode again.
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OK
since I bought the phone from ATT a year ago, running 2.1, I would assume that I do NOT have them, so I do need them
mirceani said:
sorry for my ignorance, what is a "stock rom" and what is a "custom ROM" ?
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A stock rom is that package that Cezare and pretzel posted. A custom rom is Fusion V, Pinnacle, Fasty II, among many many other. All those are based on the stock KH3 that cezar and prertzel posted