What is the difference between... [SOLVED] - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I have a question. Does anyone know the difference between the 2.22.23.02 and 2.22.19.26I radio? I think the xx.02 is USA and xx.26I is non-US? Is that true? Can the xx.26I radio be installed on a USA T-Mobile G1? Or would that result in a brick? I would like to know the difference between these two radio's and their advantage/disadvantages, if there are any. I think everyone refers to the xx.26I as the "new radio"?
I currently have the 2.22.23.02 radio on my device.

2.22.23.02 is referred to as the new radio. However, there is an even newer radio that is out (2.22.27.08), that gives you 14MB of extra RAM, but is only really compatible with certain ROMs. All of these radios can be flashed on the T-Mobile G1. If the radio shows up in the Android Development section for the G1, it is safe to use.
I think that the 2.22.19.26I radio has been reported to work better in countries that are outside of the USA, but since you live in the USA, I think that the 2.22.23.02 radio is the better one. I think that people who flashed the 2.22.23.02 radio have reported better battery life. But I'm not sure if that is true or not. But, if you want the newest thing, try out 2.22.27.08. I flashed the 2.22.27.08 radio and the SPL that went along with it yesterday, and it's been working great so far.
Just as a warning, you have to be really careful when flashing radios/SPLs. If you flash the SPL before the radio, you will probably brick your phone.

Well, I'm using this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620&page=126
and I think that is compatible with the 2.22.27.08 radio. I'm not sure yet if I'd want to flash it though. I think I would need HBOOT-1.33.0013d, right?
Most likely won't flash lol, 14MB additional RAM is only like... such a very small difference?

Sleeps17 said:
Well, I'm using this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620&page=126
and I think that is compatible with the 2.22.27.08 radio. I'm not sure yet if I'd want to flash it though. I think I would need HBOOT-1.33.0013d, right?
Most likely won't flash lol, 14MB additional RAM is only like... such a very small difference?
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19.26, 23.02, 27.08, and 28.25 are just improvements on the radio. It tells the phone how to poll the towers and can increase signal, but more frequent polling cost power. Depending on your carrier and area, you may see an improvement, but it's not guaranteed. I gained a full bar with the 27.08 radio. I got the same plus better 3g with 28.25. But my battery only last 2 days on standby, and about 3 hrs of heavy use. That's what car charters are for.
There is an older radio that came with rc29, that can brick your phone when flashed with hboot 1.xx.xxxx or higher. 19.26 was the old "new" radio that was needed to avoid a brick. Just make sure you flash radio before hboot and you'll be fine.
Yes, you need 0013d to use the 2 newest radios, and its well worth it. 14mb of system RAM causes a significant performance boost. It's better than the old RAM hack from 1.6 and doesn't affect the gpu. There is a kernel patch that allows it to work with almost any Rom.
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Okay thanks for the additional information. I tried flashing the recovery, but I get this error:
error: cannot load 'recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0-cyan.img'
What did I do wrong? The .img file is on the root of my SD and is named exactly what I input into my terminal. Is this error because I already have the amon-ra-recovery V1.7.0? But this filename has the "cyan" in it.
Oh btw I forgot to mention that my current SPL is 1.33.2005, so I should be able to flash via fastboot.
Okay never mind I got it working. New recovery, baseband, and SPL ^_^ thanks for helping guys.

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Going from ebi1 to ebi0

hey guys, I don't need to remain ebi1 because I don't use data.
I was wondering if anyone has a link to a page describing how to get from ebi1 to ebi0.
I did a google and forum search but only found threads going from ebi0 to ebi1.
Also, if this even possible if I have flashed my spl to danger?
nm got it.
I'd be interested to hear if you see any changes in reception, whether you have more/fewer bars...
wow, I am now getting MORE bars, in my home I normally get 1-2 and rarely 3 bars.
Right now I have 4 bars.
I'd like to know as well, how to go from EBI1 back to EBI0. I'm on US AT&T network and don't care about Roger's mandatory update. The phone is rooted with the latest Cyanogen EBI1 mod, but I'm experience exact symptoms as desribed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632115&highlight=EBI1
Massive data drops I never seen before and "no service" in the morning.
follow :
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1_to_CyanogenMod
skip the parts you have already done (like maybe the spl part) when it says to flash the ebi1 radio 3.x, instead use the ebi0 one 2.x
and when it says to flash the R version of the recovery, flash the non R version
Remember this is highly dangerous and must be done in fastboot mode! DO NOT reboot untill BOTH the radio and recovery have been changed, rebooting while only one has WILL cause a BRICK.
I take no responsibility for what YOU do!
Should I reflash system image and/or Rom, or just radio and recovery?
You are going to do this
1)fastboot the radio
2)fastboot the recovery
3) flash in recovery what ever rom you want (obviously without the ebi1 kernel)
asb123 said:
You are going to do this
1)fastboot the radio
2)fastboot the recovery
3) flash in recovery what ever rom you want (obviously without the ebi1 kernel)
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It worked, Thanks!
Ebi1 --> ebi0
ok so i have a rogers Dream aka G1. It HAD the 3.xx.xx radio, the EBI1 radio. I wanted to be able to use more roms so i downgraded it to the EBI0 radio. But now I can't seem to access data plan services? Any ideas on this? do i need to have the EBI1 radio in order to access Rogers data services?
kyle_l88 said:
ok so i have a rogers Dream aka G1. It HAD the 3.xx.xx radio, the EBI1 radio. I wanted to be able to use more roms so i downgraded it to the EBI0 radio. But now I can't seem to access data plan services? Any ideas on this? do i need to have the EBI1 radio in order to access Rogers data services?
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No, robbers is criminally blocking your services for being smarter than them.
You need to find the "opt out" button where you can get your data service reactivated.

Fairly new w/questions

Ok I'm new to rooting and flashing so I have a few questions that I'm pretty sure are basic but I just don't want to brick my phone. 1.when flashing a radio Rom do you wipe before flashing? 2.when you flash a custom Rom do you flash the radio before or after the custom Rom and do you have to flash the radio every you flash a custom Rom? 3.how do you make a backup of your stock radio before flashing the new one?
4. Are there specific radio roms for different custom roms or can you use the same radio for all custom roms? Thanx a lot.
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Can't back up your radio. Flash a radio, and it may give you better signal, it may give you worse signal. it may boost your battery to 100 years, it my kill it in 5 minutes.
It's all about your towers, how far away you are, what kind of signal it's getting. You might get a radio that gives you full signal at home, but none at work.
make sure you have the right radio for your phone!!!!!!!!
The radio and Rom are seperate.. can be done anytime from each other.
recommendation: dont mess with the radio yet... make sure you are having issues with the current radio before you try to update it. I still have not got the never up to touch the Radio. I flash ROMs all the time. Read on Radios.. there has been a lot of issues. Some are big issues!!!!

Downgrading radio version 5.08

Hy there ! I have a question about downgrading the radio from version 5.08 to 4.06. It is possible to do it without bricking the system?
adrian_botez said:
Hy there ! I have a question about downgrading the radio from version 5.08 to 4.06. It is possible to do it without bricking the system?
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I'm pretty sure you just have to flash the older radio in recovery. You can only brick the phone if you take out the battery while it's doing it, or if your battery is too low (so make sure you're at least 50% or 100% if you're really paranoid).
Any verification on this? I have the 5.08 radio and it's not as good as the older one, at least, for me.
edit: Nevermind, I decided to give it a go and it seems to have worked.
Thanks.
Just today, after about a month of 5.08, i downgraded to 4.06. Just flash it, simple and let it do its thing. Took a couple minutes to boot back in and it felt like the phone was stuck on the nexus boot but it pulled through.
Main reason for downgrading was that 5.08 was a little unstable. Noticed crash after crash when it lost reception.
4.06 is slow though
My problem with the 5.08 is that i loose 3g signal all the time. Maybe the 4.06 works well i have to try it
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[Q] RAM Hack Question

Hi,
I have dangerspl and RADIO 2_22_23_02.
Can I user this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139) Radio and keep my spl or must I flash both, the radio and the spl, to get more ram?
Is the spl in this thread better than dangerspl or what is the difference?
Can the hack be used with COS-DS?
~Thau
If you want to get additional 14MB, you need to install both: the new radio and the new spl. In addition you need also a special kernel for the roms, but this shouldn't be a problem.
The 1.33.0013d SPL is not "better", in contrary it's more restricted (it's a perfected SPL), but it's needed to get the additional ram. For me it's worth to go that way, but you need to decide by yourself.

[Q] better radio than 3.22.26.17 for post 911 dream?

I'm having a TON of issues with the current radio. I flashed the updated radio during the whole 911 patch fiasco and ever since the phone will just randomly not be able to send/receive text messages or phone calls. I've read that some of the newer radios (6.xx) and the older radios are compatible.
Current Specs:
Rom: CM 6.1.0 with patched kernel
Radio: 3.22.26.17
Model: HTC Dream 32B
You should update to the ezterry's newest radio and spl.
They also come with an extra 14MB RAM!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139
seems cool, but I was hoping for something simpler... Ah well if it gives me back the use of my phone...
It will, trust me if you need a guide, on how to flash it, go to the g1 development forum, its either on the first or second page
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maximo360 said:
It will, trust me if you need a guide, on how to flash it, go to the g1 development forum, its either on the first or second page
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098899
ldrifta said:
brick://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098899
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Absolutely under no circumstances *EVER* flash via recovery a 2.22.* radio when you have a 3.22.* radio it *WILL* brick your phone
on a similar note:
Absolutely under no circumstances *EVER* flash via recovery a 3.22.* radio when you have a 2.22.* radio it *WILL* brick your phone
And on that note another few reasons why we recommend using fastboot
If you have a 1.22.* radio and install Danger SPL or 1.33.0013/0013d SPLs via recovery you will also brick your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139 is safe for ALL dream users, always use that fastboot method for installing 1.33.0013d or ask ldrifta to pay for your replacement phone.. anyway those other instructions are for downgrading a t-mobile dream.. while 60% of the time it may work.. downgrading to out of region firmwares causes headaches when an NBH fails to apply the first time.. since you can't simply re-flash and move on.
(anyway the rooting guide for the e911 dreams already expects the users to install fastboot/adb so it ought to be easy to fastboot the radio+SPL.. the only real problem with my thread is some people feel overwhelmed with the full operation guide of the new phone the Radio/SPL transforms the phone into)

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