I try to find location and it says enable location, but you cant in tnt lite settings I'm pretty sure I can load regular android settings and enable it but have yet to do so...has anyone tried it?
There is no GPS in the unit so it couldn't find location even if you enabled it.
u can find location with wifi...
You need GPS or aGPS which the device has neither.
aGPS can use cell towers and WiFi points to help triangulate your location.
It would use router as location like a computer
The Original Poster is asking how to enable WiFi based location.
The option does not exist in the TnT settings, but it does in other devices.
It works fine on my cheap Augen Gentouch, which definitely does not have GPS.
You also do not need a cellular radio in the device.
For those that do not understand how this works, it has been in the news recently how Google drives around logging WiFi access points. They also have GPS in the car. From this they have created a data base of where your AP is located.
If you are connected to the internet via Wifi router <router name /MAC>, then you must be geographically near that router. Assuming that the location of that router/internet route has not changed since they drove by, then your location is known down to the range of a typical Wifi access point (within about 300 ft Max, assuming a network with a single AP.).
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The Original Poster is asking how to enable WiFi based location.
The option does not exist in the TnT settings, but it does in other devices.
It works fine on my cheap Augen Gentouch, which definitely does not have GPS.
You also do not need a cellular radio in the device.
For those that do not understand how this works, it has been in the news recently how Google drives around logging WiFi access points. They also have GPS in the car. From this they have created a data base of where your AP is located.
If you are connected to the internet via Wifi router <router name /MAC>, then you must be geographically near that router. Assuming that the location of that router/internet route has not changed since they drove by, then your location is known down to the range of a typical Wifi access point (within about 300 ft Max, assuming a network with a single AP.).
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Exactly...I need a vanilla settings file I can push to enable that setting
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When i use WLAN the 3G/GSM connection is lost after a few minutes and i have to reboot the phone to get it back. Does anybody know why this might be? Could it be the Radio?
I think its turning it off because your connecting to the internet through the wifi, when you disable wifi it should re-enable the 3g connection, but if it doesnt you can turn on the data connection...
thats what it sounds like is going on from your post. When I turn on wifi it will drop the data connection but has always reconnected to it once I disable wifi or I go outside of my wifi's range and something try's to connect to the net...
Yes, it is logical, you could not have opened two types of connection concurrently. One type closed another one.
ive had the same problem, when i connect to wi-fi i lose the data connection and it doesnt let me browse until i turn wi-fi off...i dont understand the point of wi-fi if u cant browse with the speed since the data connection is lost?
Thanks men! By turning on the data connection after i used wifi it reconnected!
timace said:
ive had the same problem, when i connect to wi-fi i lose the data connection and it doesnt let me browse until i turn wi-fi off...i dont understand the point of wi-fi if u cant browse with the speed since the data connection is lost?
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What Wifi allows you to do us connect wirelessly to another connection, at home its my DSL, which is much faster than the edge network, and if I did not have an unlimited data plan wouldnt add to my phone bill. In that way its very usefull. Seeing how its faster and available at home or in places where your cell signal might not be strong or available you can use it to get online.
But you need to tell it your no longer using wifi for it to reconnect through the network to deliver data to you again.
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What Wifi allows you to do us connect wirelessly to another connection, at home its my DSL, which is much faster than the edge network, and if I did not have an unlimited data plan wouldnt add to my phone bill. In that way its very usefull. Seeing how its faster and available at home or in places where your cell signal might not be strong or available you can use it to get online.
But you need to tell it your no longer using wifi for it to reconnect through the network to deliver data to you again.
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ok so when it comes to wi-fi im a big newbie, i have a tmo wing and have flashed (upgraded) rom...i also have dsl at home how is it i can connect and access this...when i search for wi-fi it usually only picks up my neighbors connections never my own...?
If you have a wifi router or your modem has a build in wifi option you go into your modem to set it up. Most modems / routers come with it broadcasting the SSID so you should see something (usually the default is the name of the manufacturer)
If you have your paperwork you can open your web browser and type in the address to open the internal OS and make changes as you see fit. For example mine is a linksys and its default address was http://192.168.1.1, most routers used to default to that but since a lot of modems are coming out with build in os and firewalls they have that IP so routers can be changed like mine. Once in the OS you can set up your pw so no one else can play with your settings
Navigate to the Wireless section and there should be a bunch of settings. I renamed my WiFi name to match my home network, and disabled the SSID broadcast. Then changed the chanel for some of my other devices, if you dont have anything that requires this leave it alone. Then enable WEP or other protection, 128 bit wep is pretty decent and anyone hacking through it will probably be disappointed with your lack of juicy goods.
Once you have the SSID and the Key encription you go to your phone and mirror the information into the WiFi settings. The web will be a 26 or so string of letters / numbers that will equal the password you set. These must be typed in perfectly or it will not work, took me 6 or so tries to get it typed in correctly but once its in you wont need to do it again unless you reset the phone or change the network settings.
If all that goes through open IE on the phone and hit up google or something, if it loads your online.
Thats a jumbled and messy tutorial, I can fix it to be more user friendly if you need me to do it, but with you not seeing any SSID but your neighbors your wifi is either non existant or disabled...
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If you have a wifi router or your modem has a build in wifi option you go into your modem to set it up. Most modems / routers come with it broadcasting the SSID so you should see something (usually the default is the name of the manufacturer)
If you have your paperwork you can open your web browser and type in the address to open the internal OS and make changes as you see fit. For example mine is a linksys and its default address was http://192.168.1.1, most routers used to default to that but since a lot of modems are coming out with build in os and firewalls they have that IP so routers can be changed like mine. Once in the OS you can set up your pw so no one else can play with your settings
Navigate to the Wireless section and there should be a bunch of settings. I renamed my WiFi name to match my home network, and disabled the SSID broadcast. Then changed the chanel for some of my other devices, if you dont have anything that requires this leave it alone. Then enable WEP or other protection, 128 bit wep is pretty decent and anyone hacking through it will probably be disappointed with your lack of juicy goods.
Once you have the SSID and the Key encription you go to your phone and mirror the information into the WiFi settings. The web will be a 26 or so string of letters / numbers that will equal the password you set. These must be typed in perfectly or it will not work, took me 6 or so tries to get it typed in correctly but once its in you wont need to do it again unless you reset the phone or change the network settings.
If all that goes through open IE on the phone and hit up google or something, if it loads your online.
Thats a jumbled and messy tutorial, I can fix it to be more user friendly if you need me to do it, but with you not seeing any SSID but your neighbors your wifi is either non existant or disabled...
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thanks for the quick reply, ill give it a try...might need the more user friendly version lol sorry
Its no problem, the biggest thing will be weather or not you have a wifi router or modem. Then depending on the brand the IP you have to type in to log into the modem. Each router / modem will have paperwork with it that tells you how to do it, some are different but thankfully most are the same.
The un is usually blank and the pw is usually admin, sometimes now they dont even put one unless you specify it. Once your in the OS its pretty self explanitory, there are lots of things to not mess with, but in the wifi area you can look over my post and figure most of it out,
if you get hung up on somethin just post what it is and ill see what I can do
I got an iPad the other day, and have been using the tethering ability of N1 with CM6.1rc1 while at work. I have the basic wifi iPad,that does not have gps built into it, but it is able to pull location data from wifi. While on my homes wifi, google maps shows my location about 300 Feet from my actual location, but while at work using my phone for wifi, it's much more accurate, only off by about 30 feet or so. So does my N1 share the gps location over the wifi when tethering is turned on?
Nope... Just means that the location services being used by the ipad know what wifi is near your office better...
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My Guess is that its based on your external IP. Something like this http://www.ip2location.com/free.asp
Google actually records the location of your wifi network, when you use things like latitude.
When I moved from Australia back to New Zealand for about a month whenever I was connected to my home wifi router, google said my location was in australia (because that was the same router I was using in australia).
Even though I had changed the ssid etc, I still had to wait for google's servers to realise I had moved. So I guess they record the location along with the mac address for the router.
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My Guess is that its based on your external IP. Something like this http://www.ip2location.com/free.asp
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Just gave that a try, and I'm guessing that's not it. It shows my location 10 or 15 miles away from my actual location.
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Nope... Just means that the location services being used by the ipad know what wifi is near your office better...
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Is it able to pull location data from wifi networks that are not even visible to me?
I used to tether my iPod Touch to my Androids before it was stolen. Same idea, I think it just looks for all the wi-fi MAC addresses nearby and triangulates a probable position. If the network you're connected to is not in its database (and inevitably, the MAC address of a tethering phone won't be), then it just sniffs out all the other surrounding wi-fi networks. So whatever networks are visible from your office, they are already in the Skyhook database.
Does anyone know how Google Maps knows my location on the NC? I thought the NC did not have a GPS. Perhaps, Maps could use my IP address, but it seems really accurate, within 10 meters.
Google collected wifi access point names and locations while driving around to build Streetview. If your wifi is turned on, they can use your list of visible hotspots to approximate your location.
Do you see that white unmarked cargo van parked down the street from your house?
This works with both Wi-Fi Tether and tethered with Barnacle. That would rule out using Wi-Fi data as a locator. I did however, use the locate button on g'maps using the LAN connection before I tried it with wireless tether. Maybe its showing a cached location.
I'll test the location feature with a wirless tether somewhere else tomorrow to check this.
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This works with both Wi-Fi Tether and tethered with Barnacle. That would rule out using Wi-Fi data as a locator.
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No, it does not rule it out.
Is your tethered hotspot the ONLY access point in range? The location via wifi is NOT based on the network you are connected to, it is based on comparing the relative signal strengths of ALL visible access points. If there are three visible WAPs with known locations, it's fairly trivial to plot your position with high precision. Even just one or two visible access points can yield a pretty accurate location.
Determining location based on other access points makes sense. I see 4 or 5 access points quite often. Thanks!
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No its not the only access point. The area is saturated with 12-15 different WAP at any time. You are probably right. I know a spot nearby which shows no access points, will try out g'maps with a Wi-Fi tether there sometime this week.
If Wifi is on, it'll do the Wifi location stuff. It goes off ESSID, ie: router MAC address, so even if all of your neighbors are stupidly all using "linksys" as their SSID, they're all unique regardless.
I've only had it find me at the house, so far nowhere else, but it's handy that it does have a starting reference when I'm using it at home.
There is also network location lookups it COULD do based on your IP address, but I'm not sure how those services work... i'd assume it has to ask a service "Where is my IP located?" and if it's behind a NAT it won't know obviously. It could however use the outgoing connection (your internet connection), although in that case it would be potentially many miles off if it worked, certainly not accurate.
When it locates me at my house it shows me right in my front yard.
This technology is awesome. But, it only seems to work with stock rooted. I haven't been able to get nookie Froyo or HC to determine my location via this method.
Does the N1 have 5GHz wifi like the Samsung?
My home LAN is 5GHz only, so I don't disturb the neighbors with my video streaming.
No, 2.4 only...
Ugh.
OK so I turned on the router's 2.4GHz, but with broadcast SSID off. My N1 wouldn't even try to connect. So I turned on router SSID and it connects AES.
I do -not- want SSID broadcast on, as Windows machines' lazy active scan will find me. Sure they'll never get in, but I do not want broadcast on.
Has anyone succeeded in connecting with it off?
When I am connected wifi and open a website on the phone, does it go over wifi preferred over 3G?
I want to share the SD card with a machine on the LAN. What's the best way to do this? FTP? Reverse SSH tunnel? Is there a sshfs for Android? EDIT: NM on this one.
Yes, I remember connecting to a WiFi with SSID off, when I had Nexus.
It is pointless to keep SSID Broadcasting off. It is super easy to find your SSID anyway, and it causes all sorts of additional problems (like the one you are seeing above). Just keep the network secure and it makes life a lot easier.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/2865...hiding-your-wireless-ssid-really-more-secure/
http://blogs.technet.com/b/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx
Ok, but sure passive scanners like Kismet will still see me, however 90% of scans are done with an active scanner like Winduhs. Of course I'm using WPA2-AES, but I want to take every measure possible.
Now I find that whenever I have the phone connected to wifi, I lose -all- internet access. Just times out. 3G is still on and wifi is showing connected, but I can't get to websites. As soon as I turn off Wifi I can access the internet again through 3G.
With wifi I -can- access the wireless router's setup webpage from my phone, which tells me I am working through wifi, and I can remotely mount the phone filesystem on a LAN machine using sshfs, but I can not reach anything outside. Any idea why?
Does anyone know whether, when it's working right, it uses the wifi connection in preference over 3G?
The WiFi is ALWAYS preferred to 3G, which means - when you're connected to WiFi, all the internet traffic is routed through WiFi.
I don't understand then, why all data traffic stops to the outside when wifi is connected. The rest of my LAN gets outside fine, just not the phone.
If you can see LAN computers and exchange data with them - it's not the phone that's making problems. See if you have any restrictions in your router.
Oh FFS, my fault...
I set my IP statically for my LAN, and through some alert troubleshooting I found I can ping IPs outside but not DNs. I'd mis-set the DNS server in wifi settings. Now it works great!
I can now use sshdroid to mount my phone's filesystem on my LAN securely. Now, if I could only get it to wifi associate with beacon off...
It would also be nice to mount a filesystem on my LAN to the phone, although I consider the phone unsecure and question the wisdom of that, even with DroidWall running.
There is a market app that lets you connect to a hidden ssid
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Cool, but Market is FCing on me. I did a complete reinstall of the newest MIUI.us, and now Market's FCing again. So can't install any Market apps.
As someone else said, turning SSID off is pointless. It's like taking the numbers off the outside of your house and thinking people driving by won't see your house sitting there.
Apparently you didn't understand what I said here:
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Ok, but sure passive scanners like Kismet will still see me, however 90% of scans are done with an active scanner like Winduhs. Of course I'm using WPA2-AES, but I want to take every measure possible.
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If nothing else, please just respect my decision in this regard, or give valid proof that active scanners are not the preponderance.
I just got my self an Asus N12 router/repeater and already set it up for repeater mode, verified with a laptop places on the house that formerly had very low signal now shows almost a full bar now the problem I have is that the Galaxy Note seems to only want to connect to the main router which gives it like a very low or even dropped signal, using an app called wifi analizer it can show both my main router and the repeater ( both have the same SSID and only shows a different mac address of some sort, the repeater is actually detected giving off good signal but then again it always connects to the main router.. I never had to setup anything on the laptop it just gets better over all signal.
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This is what Wifi Analizer sees
Home (00:23:59:11:11:71)
Home (bc:ae:c5:b0:3a:78)
first one is my primary router and the 2nd one is my asus, the note always prefers to connect to the primary router and ignores the signal from the repeater.. the laptops on the other hand get the signal boost!
Good thread to second the question.
Is it possible to set the Roaming Aggressiveness for the Note?
In simpler words - if i have two signals (say, identical as the OPs config) i want to switch between them before the connections to the connected one has been dropped. In other words - is there a way to switch WiFi networks beneath signal strength value or on better signal from known network?
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Good thread to second the question.
Is it possible to set the Roaming Aggressiveness for the Note?
In simpler words - if i have two signals (say, identical as the OPs config) i want to switch between them before the connections to the connected one has been dropped. In other words - is there a way to switch WiFi networks beneath signal strength value or on better signal from known network?
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Im also looking for something like that, I've read before that tasker can do that kind of switching.
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I found this on another forum :
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Cracked it. WrecX free in market allows you to set a preferred AP, and either allow or exclude OPEN AP should you lose signal.
Re:tasker, basically a full phone API with undocumented GUI. Complex, requires *full* permissions (not my bag!), costs 4GB£
I had the exact same problem and this fixed it. It uses just 472Kb and it works. Thanks!
To use it, open it, Menu, Preference, Access Point(AP) and choose your preferred network.
It would be nice if I could set up multiple preferred access points, but I can live with the inconvenience of choosing a network while I'm travelling. I was getting annoyed with having to keep doing it at home though.
Hope it will resolve your problem.
You could try this with the free Wi-Fi Rules (a WIFI Manager) app in the market.
It allows you to set connect priorities...
Or even Wif-Fi scanner wRecX(Free) where your device can connect with the retrieved access points specified in the list...
That is annoying! I just bought a repeater. I guess I'll be having the same problems ...
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I found this on another forum :
Originally Posted by wilmer000 View Post
Cracked it. WrecX free in market allows you to set a preferred AP, and either allow or exclude OPEN AP should you lose signal.
Re:tasker, basically a full phone API with undocumented GUI. Complex, requires *full* permissions (not my bag!), costs 4GB£
I had the exact same problem and this fixed it. It uses just 472Kb and it works. Thanks!
To use it, open it, Menu, Preference, Access Point(AP) and choose your preferred network.
It would be nice if I could set up multiple preferred access points, but I can live with the inconvenience of choosing a network while I'm travelling. I was getting annoyed with having to keep doing it at home though.
Hope it will resolve your problem.
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You could try this with the free Wi-Fi Rules (a WIFI Manager) app in the market.
It allows you to set connect priorities...
Or even Wif-Fi scanner wRecX(Free) where your device can connect with the retrieved access points specified in the list...
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I will try both solutions once I have my repeater up and running again, It is currently used as my primary router as it gives a better over all coverage compared to my old router but I will go back to using the repeater when I have the time to do so.
tried a different ssid on the repeater?
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tried a different ssid on the repeater?
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A repeater automatically configured to have the same SSID at least on the Asus repeater mode, Access Point mode on the other hand allows you to use a different SSID but you need a LAN cable to connect to it.
After setting it back up, I've already figured it out that if I needed to connect to my repeater I must have a static IP settings on my phone.. for some odd reason it does not provide any IP from the DHCP of the primary router, so when I go up a floor I just need to reconnect manually to the primary router by turning the wifi toggle off then on again.
I have exactly the same issue, Static IP works but Notes can't pick an IP while connected to the repeater only work workarounds I found 1. static ip, 2. setup DHCP on the repeater too.
and I hate both
did you made any progress on this ?
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I have exactly the same issue, Static IP works but Notes can't pick an IP while connected to the repeater only work workarounds I found 1. static ip, 2. setup DHCP on the repeater too.
and I hate both
did you made any progress on this ?
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Static IP is the only work around I found for this to work, my laptop though connects to the repeater with out issues and the need for static IP. Same issue with the Galaxy tab7.7 Im guessing this could be an andriod/samsung issue.
There is a known issue with some Samsung Android phones, including Note, failing to support BSSID roaming. That is were the wifi device hands over between separate APs with the same SSID.
More info here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=12649
You could set your repeater to use a different SSID, if supported. I have had success with BSSID roaming when using Imilka's CM9 build for the Note.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks to both, yes all other devices works just fine here too. Just my note and wife's S2 having problems
Good to know it is a bug and sad to notice still the same in ICS
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There is a known issue with some Samsung Android phones, including Note, failing to support BSSID roaming. That is were the wifi device hands over between separate APs with the same SSID.
More info here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=12649
You could set your repeater to use a different SSID, if supported. I have had success with BSSID roaming when using Imilka's CM9 build for the Note.
Hope that helps.
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I cant see the option for my Repeater to be labelled differently
by definition a repeater will have the ssid that the main one
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by definition a repeater will have the ssid that the main one
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Yes, but some Asus models do have the ability to have it renamed.