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Who cares if AT&T Locks GPS to telenav!

Alright, check it out. I have seen allot of comments on here about how AT&T most likely lock the gps to their telenav service and many are upset. Well I shared your concerns until I found the update for the HTC Mogal, someone posted a few days ago. I have never tried tom tom and of course in a perfect world we could choose, however I must say I do not care anymore. The updated telenav is pretty sick IMO, as they changed the interface and added traffic support. What else is missing? I for one am content and just thought I would share so some can relax a bit.

*zero* chance of ATT locking the GPS to a particular service

RacerX10 said:
*zero* chance of ATT locking the GPS to a particular service
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Based on what? You speak as if this is the definitive answer. How do you know? I am all for it as I wouldnt be oppose to trying a different type of navi but there seems to be different opinions on this. Since you know everything, when is the tilt being released, also will it be in the morning or afternoon delivery truck?

wait 2 weeks and you will see

swtaltima said:
Alright, check it out. I have seen allot of comments on here about how AT&T most likely lock the gps to their telenav service and many are upset. Well I shared your concerns until I found the update for the HTC Mogal, someone posted a few days ago. I have never tried tom tom and of course in a perfect world we could choose, however I must say I do not care anymore. The updated telenav is pretty sick IMO, as they changed the interface and added traffic support. What else is missing? I for one am content and just thought I would share so some can relax a bit.
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I, for one, am not going to pay for the Telenav service! I just want a GPS for those "detour" days and road trips. Stand-alone GPS devices out there do not need a paid subscription (except for traffic) so I would prefer 8925's GPS to be the same way. Even if AT&T locks the GPS to Telenav, I am pretty sure it will be a software lock and guess where do we hangout? xda-developers!!! After some time, we will have custom ROMs popping everywhere that will not only enable the "maybe-locked" GPS but also get rid of all the bloatware and make 8925 one snappy device.

it is nice to know that the tel nav is good. i have stepped inside 4 different AT&T stores to check on kaiser availability and each time I have also asked whether the GPS will be locked to tel nav and each time i was told you will be free to use whatever software you want.

1. Wont matter as XDA would un-do locking to TelNav.
2. While I might actually pay and use TeleNav...it would be a dealbreaker if for some dumb reason like XDA could not break it or if ATT removed GPS all together. Not saying either would happen, just that for me GPS is the only reason to upgrade at this point.

wpbear said:
1. Wont matter as XDA would un-do locking to TelNav.
2. While I might actually pay and use TeleNav...it would be a dealbreaker if for some dumb reason like XDA could not break it or if ATT removed GPS all together. Not saying either would happen, just that for me GPS is the only reason to upgrade at this point.
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WHAT! GPS IS THE ONLY REASON TO UPGRADE? How can you say that when the screen tilts up? LOL. Just kiddin brotha, but seriously dont the specs on this bad boy get your attention as well? Although I consider myself the dumbest smart person I know, I still notice it has double the rom/ram whatever the hell it is and has 3 mp camera, and is the newest htc for at&t. Come on dude, navi is the only reason?

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WHAT! GPS IS THE ONLY REASON TO UPGRADE? How can you say that when the screen tilts up? LOL. Just kiddin brotha, but seriously dont the specs on this bad boy get your attention as well? Although I consider myself the dumbest smart person I know, I still notice it has double the rom/ram whatever the hell it is and has 3 mp camera, and is the newest htc for at&t. Come on dude, navi is the only reason?
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For me yes it must be GPS. The Hermes was great for me, I just like the GPS, and a NEW toy. But a new toy for $400-$800 better have full GPS even if I need to run an HTC ROM, it at least better have the hardware and be hackable. The 3MP camera is nothing for me. I dont take pics with a phone and when I do once a year, I dont expect much.
I look at my current desktop PC that is a model year 2003, yes its old but I run XP PRO and do everything I need at fairly quick speeds after the RAM upgrade. So why buy a new PC.....people say faster processor and more Video RAM, etc....but for what the PC does it works great. So why upgrade.

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Based on what? You speak as if this is the definitive answer. How do you know? I am all for it as I wouldnt be oppose to trying a different type of navi but there seems to be different opinions on this. Since you know everything, when is the tilt being released, also will it be in the morning or afternoon delivery truck?
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Now that it's confirmed that GPS IS NOT LOCKED TO TELENAV, I thought I'd go ahead and point out that I was right.
Thanks,
DLD

definitely a crap ?

definitely a crap ?
well guys , many of you now have it and many of us are thinking to buy...but... there are some worst rumors....
give us a definitely judge , thanks

stesa said:
definitely a crap ?
well guys , many of you now have it and many of us are thinking to buy...but... there are some worst rumors....
give us a definitely judge , thanks
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i love it, works like a charm for me, but you need to take others opinions like a grain of salt until you actually try the device yourself..

I think the Diamond will have some issues as lots of other devices, but they'll be worked out with later ROMs.

Are you in the USA? If so how can it work like a charm with NO 3G or 850Mhz support? So if you are an AT&T NO EDGE?????? I have the unit and use both SIMS and no better one or the other..
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i love it, works like a charm for me, but you need to take others opinions like a grain of salt until you actually try the device yourself..
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mobilitytoday said:
Are you in the USA? If so how can it work like a charm with NO 3G or 850Mhz support? So if you are an AT&T NO EDGE?????? I have the unit and use both SIMS and no better one or the other..
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Did i say i was in the US? if you look up the right on my profile you will see a flag, if you put your mouse over it you will see what country im from.

The only thing I dont like is the ring volume which is quite soft...

walshieau said:
Did i say i was in the US? if you look up the right on my profile you will see a flag, if you put your mouse over it you will see what country im from.
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Walshy, are you using it on Next G? I've got one coming (I'm using VF 3G) - it was posted from Sydney Monday evidently....
Kevin

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Walshy, are you using it on Next G? I've got one coming (I'm using VF 3G) - it was posted from Sydney Monday evidently....
Kevin
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nah i bought a prepaid optus sim and testing it with that at the moment, $70 bucks gets you 300MB and some decent call time so thats cool with me, and whey optus roll out their 900Mhz 3G network it will work a treat...
this phone doesnt operate on NextG(850Mhz) it's 3G bands are 900/2100

telstra are a rip off. im on optus on a $70 prepaid turbocharge. gives u $650 worth of calls/txts/video calls and 300mb of data.
telstra soon enough will drop their prices when optus roll out their 900MHz HSPA network.

my advice: go for touch pro if kb and memory slot r important to u.

Hmm, just got mine and have that horrible sinking feeling that I've blown £400 on something that I'm not going to be very happy with.
First, it crashed when loading the customisations, so I hard reset and this time it went ok, but then another application (Touchflo) crashed soon afterwards. It's been ok since, but doesn't inspire confidence.
Second, Touchflo is quite laggy at times and also fiddly, these may be issues for me because I have big hands.
Third, the whole Touchflo thing seems a bit fiddly, I'm almost tempted to run with a standard HTC or Windows 6.1 homescreen to see if there's any improvement.
Fourth, the soft keyboard has keys that are very close together, even in portrait mode the keys are a bind to use.
Fifth, wifi not working very well with my router, keeps disconnecting, but my TyTn2, S730, S710, TyTn, E51 all work ok on it.
I've not had a chance yet to test battery, call quality etc.
Fingers crossed it's just a learning process and with time maybe the whole Touchflo thing will be refined a little more.
It certainly doesn't feel anything like as slick as my Ipod Touch for typing, browsing, music etc.
I have a bad feeling that I should have waited for the 3g iPhone.

walshieau said:
Did i say i was in the US? if you look up the right on my profile you will see a flag, if you put your mouse over it you will see what country im from.
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I know it's a bit off topic, but how do you get the flag and the mobile carrier's logo to display on your posts?

g00n3r said:
Hmm, just got mine and have that horrible sinking feeling that I've blown £400 on something that I'm not going to be very happy with.
First, it crashed when loading the customisations, so I hard reset and this time it went ok, but then another application (Touchflo) crashed soon afterwards. It's been ok since, but doesn't inspire confidence.
Second, Touchflo is quite laggy at times and also fiddly, these may be issues for me because I have big hands.
Third, the whole Touchflo thing seems a bit fiddly, I'm almost tempted to run with a standard HTC or Windows 6.1 homescreen to see if there's any improvement.
Fourth, the soft keyboard has keys that are very close together, even in portrait mode the keys are a bind to use.
Fifth, wifi not working very well with my router, keeps disconnecting, but my TyTn2, S730, S710, TyTn, E51 all work ok on it.
I've not had a chance yet to test battery, call quality etc.
Fingers crossed it's just a learning process and with time maybe the whole Touchflo thing will be refined a little more.
It certainly doesn't feel anything like as slick as my Ipod Touch for typing, browsing, music etc.
I have a bad feeling that I should have waited for the 3g iPhone.
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Hey, don't get too down so soon...have a look for the Diamond tweaks - they'll speed up your device (especially TouchFlo) like you won't believe!

That's the difference between the Touch Diamond and the iPhone. It's much easier to fix problems with the Touch Diamond through registry edits and third party software, than it is to fix problems with the iPhone...

Dark Fire said:
That's the difference between the Touch Diamond and the iPhone. It's much easier to fix problems with the Touch Diamond through registry edits and third party software, than it is to fix problems with the iPhone...
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too right you are.

Dark Fire said:
That's the difference between the Touch Diamond and the iPhone. It's much easier to fix problems with the Touch Diamond through registry edits and third party software, than it is to fix problems with the iPhone...
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Yeah, but why the heck do we have to!? Can't HTC build a quality device that just works out of the box?! Then leave it to us mostly to customize it and somehow improve its usability!? Man, everyday I read about newer and bigger bugs and flaws. May be most of them will be overcomed thanks to this comunity, but were is HTC with its support for its high-priced devices!?
I'm a tech geek alright, and I love having all the newest tech gadgets around. I've wanted to get a WM phone so many times throughout the last few years but they were always behind in lots of aspects compared to the Symbian ones. Then HTC released its TyTNII with its holy specs, great design and somewhat compact size. This was my phone! Yeah, right! Then I found out about this huge issue with the video performance and followed it for about three monts waiting for a solution either from HTC or XDA. And OK - HTC had some problems with Qualcomm support for its stolen from Broadcomm chipsets whatever. So they announced Touch Diamond with a new chipset and "3D GPU" which "processor enhances the user interface". And then again it needs tweaks to make it - not better, but just usable. Then all the other bugs and flaws users say about in this forum.
Well damn you HTC, I'm about to leave the idea of having WM phone again. And that from a fan of yours that followed you back from the era of Qtek devices.

timn2087 said:
I know it's a bit off topic, but how do you get the flag and the mobile carrier's logo to display on your posts?
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go to user CP

So wht is the verdict guys... is it worth buying it or wht i was planning on buying it but i heard a lot rumours tht is it really not worth it... cause the main problem is it is really slow!!!! even after applying the tweak to speed up the phone cause after tht it seems u'll need to soft reset a couple of time and even hard reset....
So the million dollar question is buy or not to buy???

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Did i say i was in the US? if you look up the right on my profile you will see a flag, if you put your mouse over it you will see what country im from.
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g day mate...hows it going down under!

demonizator said:
Yeah, but why the heck do we have to!? Can't HTC build a quality device that just works out of the box?! Then leave it to us mostly to customize it and somehow improve its usability!?
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Maybe a WM device just isn't for you. I wouldn't be happy if I wasn't constantly fiddling anyway, so it's better for me to get a device that needs improving than to get a device that works fine (because fiddling will break it).

Mods can go ahead and lock this

well active sync wont connect anymore i was getting ready to go to a new rom and now active sync wont connect and i hard reset the device so... i need to
a. fix this tonight
b. fix this tonight
or c. go to oem stuff and send it back in (i dont know how to get it back to oem rom without active sync though) also if this helps it will sync to my older comp

You can flash another ROM by going into the bootloader (tri-colored screen) hold the volume down button and reset keep holding until the bootloader comes up then conect to your PC and when you see USB at the bottom you are connected to your PC and can flash any ROM! Thats how you bypass active sync to flash!

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You can flash another ROM by going into the bootloader (tri-colored screen) hold the volume down button and reset keep holding until the bootloader comes up then conect to your PC and when you see USB at the bottom you are connected to your PC and can flash any ROM! Thats how you bypass active sync to flash!
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Thank you so much im trying that now

ok its not working it just says serial at the bottom...

ryan00793 said:
ok its not working it just says serial at the bottom...
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Even after is plugged in? Have you tried restarting your computer?

yes but i will do it again just for you =P

ryan00793 said:
yes but i will do it again just for you =P
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Lol, thanks man! Have you tried any other USB ports on your computer? Or is there another computer in your house you can try to connect to? It may not even be your phone, try plugging another device or something into the same USB and see if it recognizes that! Its all about process of elimination at this point! Problem solving at its finest!
P.S Good thing Adult Swim is on and I am still going to be up for awhile!

OMGOMGOMGOMG Thank you =]=]=]=] it says usb now and now do i flash like normal?

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Lol, thanks man! Have you tried any other USB ports on your computer? Or is there another computer in your house you can try to connect to? It may not even be your phone, try plugging another device or something into the same USB and see if it recognizes that! Its all about process of elimination at this point! Problem solving at its finest!
P.S Good thing Adult Swim is on and I am still going to be up for awhile!
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yea i know the device works because i literaly have another comp touching my normal comp lol and yea it would sync to that ut that is base windows xp spk0 lol =P gotta have one comp not connected to the network

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OMGOMGOMGOMG Thank you =]=]=]=] it says usb now and now do i flash like normal?
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Right on! Yea just like normal, double click the wrapper.RUU and your good! Glad that worked for you!

What I did and I would recomend to anyone is to buy a 1 gig SDcard and format it to FAT32 and use that just for flashing, its easy to do and its safer and much faster, cuts your flash time in half! If you are interested I can walk you through it! I havent connected to active sync for a couple of months!

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Right on! Yea just like normal, double click the wrapper.RUU and your good! Glad that worked for you!
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Man i would have been so hosed with out you =]

Also im installing a new rom now but what do you think about instead of using the active sync way to flash roms. why not just use the boot loader all the time?

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Also im installing a new rom now but what do you think about instead of using the active sync way to flash roms. why not just use the boot loader all the time?
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You can but I still think flashing by SD card is the best, it just cuts out the middle man and gets a cleaner flash, less chance of anything going wrong too, ie: cords getting pulled out mid flash, ect, ect. Still, I am not sure if there are long term problems that can come out of starting flash strait from the bootloader everytime, I will have to look into it! Good question though! I am just glad you got it working, hate to see someone lose their phone or be out of one for awhile!

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You can but I still think flashing by SD card is the best, it just cuts out the middle man and gets a cleaner flash, less chance of anything going wrong too, ie: cords getting pulled out mid flash, ect, ect. Still, I am not sure if there are long term problems that can come out of starting flash strait from the bootloader everytime, I will have to look into it! Good question though! I am just glad you got it working, hate to see someone lose their phone or be out of one for awhile!
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well im debating about buying a HTC Touch Pro 2 =| on one hand its every thing i want in a phone because i literaly wants the thouch hd/tilt/touch pro and that is every bit of it. but on the other hand i wont be able to get 3g/hsdpa with one because ill have to sim unlock it and all that stuff. But omg i so want the new phone =P but i might buy it within the month also tell me if i am wrong about not being able to get hsdpa with a sim unlocked phone.

ryan00793 said:
well im debating about buying a HTC Touch Pro 2 =| on one hand its every thing i want in a phone because i literaly wants the thouch hd/tilt/touch pro and that is every bit of it. but on the other hand i wont be able to get 3g/hsdpa with one because ill have to sim unlock it and all that stuff. But omg i so want the new phone =P but i might buy it within the month also tell me if i am wrong about not being able to get hsdpa with a sim unlocked phone.
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It depends on what bands the phone uses, The tp2 uses 850/900/1800/1900 MHz and at&t uses 850/1900 for their 3G so maybe or maybe not if you buy a euro version as some blackstones dont work with US 3G, but T-Mobile will be getting one and calling it the wing 2 and it will have 850/900/1800/1900 MHz so its possible that will work after it is SIM unlocked, we will have to see! Personaly I love the look of the Fuze and will wait awile before getting a tp2!

Hey im at school and i was thinking if the euro version only works sometimes then should i just wait til it comes out for att. but i wonder how long because i really am thinking about buying a euro version because it is a combo of all the phones i wanted. and did you know that verizon is still selling the the origanal touch

Also hey mods this is getting off topic but the problem was solved so you can lock this if you wish.

long-ass sigs
Seriously guys, especially considering that a lot of people are viewing these threads on telephones, how about rethinking whether or not having 18-line signatures identifying that you are in fact an HTC user (with an image to that effect), that you've used four different phones throughout your life along with individual lines to identify which rom and radio you've used for each (including those roms and radios of your Treos?!) is beneficial to the community. Signal to noise ratio people, signal to noise.
Now that you're thinking, yeah, that's pretty dumb of me, where's the control panel link, now think to yourself, why would you do that in the first place? I mean, c'mon. No one cares that you gave your palm 750 to your dad which ran a stock radio. Christ.
Mods too, you're the worst (I'm looking at you P1Tater) with your animated gifs. Okay I'll obey the rules because you've got high-production-value gifs that are more appropriate for les discothèques than XDA.
Oh and herg, don't get me started on his sig.

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Seriously guys, especially considering that a lot of people are viewing these threads on telephones, how about rethinking whether or not having 18-line signatures identifying that you are in fact an HTC user (with an image to that effect), that you've used four different phones throughout your life along with individual lines to identify which rom and radio you've used for each (including those roms and radios of your Treos?!) is beneficial to the community. Signal to noise ratio people, signal to noise.
Now that you're thinking, yeah, that's pretty dumb of me, where's the control panel link, now think to yourself, why would you do that in the first place? I mean, c'mon. No one cares that you gave your palm 750 to your dad which ran a stock radio. Christ.
Mods too, you're the worst (I'm looking at you P1Tater) with your animated gifs. Okay I'll obey the rules because you've got high-production-value gifs that are more appropriate for les discothèques than XDA.
Oh and herg, don't get me started on his sig.
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Ok d0ugie, I will chalk that one up to "everybody poops" Seriously though, I think the Mods should sticky a thread with the link to your site for sure, I love what you have done with it, definately should be one of the first stops for anyone who just got a fuze\touch pro or diamond! Thanks for all the time you put into it!

Just got a Nexus, have some questions

Hi,
I was really hoping the rumors would have been true and the Nexus 7 2 would have been announced. I was ready to pre-order last week. That didn’t happen so I pulled the trigger on the current Nexus 7. While I'm disappointed that I didn't get to get the brand new one I am VERY happy with it so far. I also got the official Nexus dock and a keyboard case. I have to say the official dock is so great I may buy a 2nd one! It’s overpriced but soooo nice.
Anyway, one thing I want to do right away is be able to get and send SMS texts from my phone on my N7. I have a Droid Razr Maxx by the way. What is the best software to do this?
Is there a free way to turn on the wireless tether on my Razr so I can connect my N7 to it? I also play Ingress and it would be cool to be able to use the N7 for that.
I'm not ready to root and try a custom ROM yet but what are some of the "must have" apps for the N7? Any info would be great!
Thanks
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Tablet Talk
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Fox-Fi

Droid9 said:
While I'm disappointed that I didn't get to get the brand new one I am VERY happy with it so far.
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lol the "new one" doesn't even exist, the disappointment is unfounded for the time being

lolcopter said:
lol the "new one" doesn't even exist, the disappointment is unfounded for the time being
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Well yes but I think we all know there will be a new one sometime in the next 6 months.

Droid9 said:
Well yes but I think we all know there will be a new one sometime in the next 6 months.
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Possibly, but being mad about not being able to buy something which doesn't even exist yet is a waste of time and energy

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Possibly, but being mad about not being able to buy something which doesn't even exist yet is a waste of time and energy
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He didn't say he was mad. He was hoping for a new release, there wasn't so he just bought what was available now.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda app-developers app

Save the disappointment for when the new version is actually released I guess
Current logic is flawed, that's all. I'll shut up now, carry on.
FWIW OP, I was expecting an updated OS, when that didn't happen I unlocked, rooted, and began flashing whatever I wanted

redmonke255 said:
He didn't say he was mad. He was hoping for a new release, there wasn't so he just bought what was available now.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda app-developers app
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Exactly. I wasn't going to buy the current one until after the big Google announcement. That would just be dumb. But again, I love this device so lets stop talking about "what if" or "when it does come out"... I want to talk about the cool things this one can do.
:cyclops:

Since its brand new, i'd recommend unlocking and rooting right away, just to get that out of the way should you wish to flash stuff later. Better to do it early since unlocking wipes everything and there's little data to keep that early. Having said that, I just finally unlocked/rooted after months of ownership and replacing all the data was trivial. Just a recommendation.
It's a very capable tablet completely stock, I just like tweaking things and the tablet UI is cool IMO.

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Since its brand new, i'd recommend unlocking and rooting right away, just to get that out of the way should you wish to flash stuff later. Better to do it early since unlocking wipes everything and there's little data to keep that early. Having said that, I just finally unlocked/rooted after months of ownership and replacing all the data was trivial. Just a recommendation.
It's a very capable tablet completely stock, I just like tweaking things and the tablet UI is cool IMO.
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Can you direct me to the easiest unlocking instructions?

Droid9 said:
Can you direct me to the easiest unlocking instructions?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Used this yesterday it worked perfectly, just follow the instructions, fix the drivers etc and it's a cakewalk

Droid9 said:
Can you direct me to the easiest unlocking instructions?
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I think Wugs tool is pretty easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475

RIP HTC Vivid

It saddens me that our beloved phone is officially dead. I hope some dev out there challenges our desire for a 5.0 update by destroying hardware limitations, battery consumption and the occational bugs. I'll be waiting for the day that Vivid rises from the ashes.
I'm still using mine since 2012, it's a good, reliable phone but admittedly has awful battery life.
Well, if it's hard to love, and you loved it. You're married to it.
RIP

Still using mine every day, thought admittedly as a WiFi-only device. Still a great screen and camera though. Just wish I could get a download of this custom ROM though as all the links in the thread have not surprisingly expired:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=70129296

thwak said:
Still using mine every day, thought admittedly as a WiFi-only device. Still a great screen and camera though. Just wish I could get a download of this custom ROM though as all the links in the thread have not surprisingly expired:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=70129296
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I'm currently using that ROM by Albinoman, i think you can send him a private message and ask for a link.
I don't have any copies of the rar file because i've been in this ROM for the past 4 years or so and my PC had a lot of anomalies that required a reformat.
I hope you find the link, you're gonna love it.

Sleetback said:
I'm currently using that ROM by Albinoman, i think you can send him a private message and ask for a link.
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Already tried that. No response. Oh well.

Well man you might be in luck. I'm porting 5.1.1 as we speak. Just a warning IDGAF about cellular connections, bluetooth or..... a lot of things. I want the camera to work, wifi and all my apps to work. SO. Maybe once I do that I can work on everything else if I want... But I really have a burning desire to at least boot Lollipop on this device. Cheers.

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Well man you might be in luck. I'm porting 5.1.1 as we speak. Just a warning IDGAF about cellular connections, bluetooth or..... a lot of things. I want the camera to work, wifi and all my apps to work. SO. Maybe once I do that I can work on everything else if I want... But I really have a burning desire to at least boot Lollipop on this device. Cheers.
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how did it go?