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Right Now im run a newest Hero Rom from MLIGN. For Some reason im get heavy amounts of lag when opening apps and etc. How can i fix this?

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ShadowLegion said:
Right Now im run a newest Hero Rom from MLIGN. For Some reason im get heavy amounts of lag when opening apps and etc. How can i fix this?
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dont use hero?
If you want apps to open faster, use a BFS kernel
If you dont want rosie to slow down over time...use a regular kernel w/o bfs
those are pretty much the only options

hero roms are generally slower, but i found to have a class 4 or 6 card to help things go a lot smoother. still, there are some hiccups, but its a huge difference

Reason #38 why Hero should die...
ShadowLegion said:
Right Now im run a newest Hero Rom from MLIGN. For Some reason im get heavy amounts of lag when opening apps and etc. How can i fix this?
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That "some reason" is because the Hero has a 1/3 more RAM than the G1. A whole 96mb.
Not trying to be patronizing, but the only thing you can do is switch to an AOSP ROM, or disbale Rosie (Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > TouchFlo > Clear Defaults - will only work if Launcher.apk is present in /system/app)

What roms would u recommend?

ShadowLegion said:
What roms would u recommend?
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All current ROMs are built off the same dump, the only thing you can really change with Hero is the kernel. Hardly any of the "Devs" who release Hero ROMs have any idea how to compile the kernel.
Take your pick, you won't find one which will have a significant speed increase over another (unless they're based on a new dump).

ShadowLegion said:
What roms would u recommend?
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I recommmed sense hero unthemed or maybe kingklick hero 2.3.
Also try cyan rom with a hero theme

Alright thx I'm gonna try a couple out. How do I install the BFS?

ShadowLegion said:
Alright thx I'm gonna try a couple out. How do I install the BFS?
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You need to flash the boot.img w/ bfs for your rom through fastboot

I am currently on sensehero 1.3.3 themed, its pretty sweet. but so far, kingklick 2.3 is going to most stable imo.
kingklick 1.9 is a guaranteed winner as well.

why do you want to install BFS? Cyan said that BFS is not all the way worked out yet.

G1 struggling - memory and other

so i got cyanogen's 4.2.12.2 loaded. apps on SD.
the phone is kinda slow, but the biggest concern is that it stalls/freezes for few seconds and stops responding, then works just fine. it happens a lot. it makes my overall usage experience a sluggish one. all i have left in internal memory is 27 MB ! why? shouldn't apps be on sd. is that cache that being used up every time an app is running in the background? not really sure i understand whats happening. i know i have over 100 apps on there, but i thought they should be running off of my SD.
i'm growing tired of the phone. is it possible to speed it up? can i get some memory back without sacrificing too many apps?

Try going to the android market and downloading the "overclock widget", and also snag the free task manager and then add the widget to your phones desktop so that way you can kill the apps and set the clock with over clock.
That should help your problem broski.

Cyanogenmod is a bloated pig.
Look in the dev section for enomther's "expansion pack". It basically adds on some extra features to a more-or-less stock rom. Performance is phenomenal.

my concern is the internal phone storage. i don't understand why it's dropping. i see people reporting 40 and 50 MB for internal storage while having 100+ apps.
how is that possible? what am i doing wrong.
by the way, my current internal memory size (based on taskpanel widget) is 17 MB!!!

Try a different rom....i suggest WG Build Y 2.6 or Super D, they are fast and stable.

djluis48 said:
Try a different rom....i suggest WG Build Y 2.6 or Super D, they are fast and stable.
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Super D is based off of dwang/Cyan...HTCClay is the orig person that started Super-D but he stopped development and gave it to BB.
Enom's is really good, its stock and doesnt have a bunch of hacks and its still faster than cyan.Expsetup is a good addon from the expansion pack.

Ace42 said:
Super D is based off of dwang/Cyan...HTCClay is the orig person that started Super-D but he stopped development and gave it to BB.
Enom's is really good, its stock and doesnt have a bunch of hacks and its still faster than cyan.Expsetup is a good addon from the expansion pack.
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I just came in again to correct that mistake, but you already did it...lol

Ace42 said:
Super D is based off of dwang/Cyan...HTCClay is the orig person that started Super-D but he stopped development and gave it to BB.
Enom's is really good, its stock and doesnt have a bunch of hacks and its still faster than cyan.Expsetup is a good addon from the expansion pack.
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I would tell this guy to re-partition, wipe everything under wipe, and then flash

overall, i like cyanogen's mods. i'd like to keep it if i could.
i installed PeakMemUsage and took a look at whats using up most of the memory
- Android system/checkin service 30 MB
- Quick search box/home/google 26 MB
- better keyboard 14 MB
- weather widgets 17 MB
- My Account 15 MB
- Dialer 16 MB
is this normal?

Mr.Jigolo said:
overall, i like cyanogen's mods. i'd like to keep it if i could.
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then go with SuperD - superficially it looks the same - all the same additions from eclair, spare parts etc, but a hell of a lot faster.

Alphabet Soap said:
then go with SuperD - superficially it looks the same - all the same additions from eclair, spare parts etc, but a hell of a lot faster.
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i guess i should. do u know of any thread that has all the info on superD and how to flash it? do i need to wipe? can i keep cyanogen's recovery? should i format and repartition the sd card?

Mr.Jigolo said:
i guess i should. do u know of any thread that has all the info on superD and how to flash it? do i need to wipe? can i keep cyanogen's recovery? should i format and repartition the sd card?
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613809
I'm pretty sure Super D just uses the 10mb ram hack and compcache - no linux swap support, but I've you've already got a partition on your card (I've got 64mb myself) it won't hold it up - it just won't be used. you can keep your partition setup, just wipe everything (I use amon ra recovery - can't remember if wipe ext and cache is on cyan's build) and flash the update. I'm on an HTC magic 32B, so haven't needed to go down the SPL/radio update because stock can cope with it, but if you're on a G1 then you'll need to do it *very carefully*. if you don't follow the inx you can brick your phone.
if you want to keep your apps use backup for root users - it can be a bit iffy, so i tend to just redownload everything from the market - your downloads are remembered, so it only takes a few minutes.
i stayed with cyan's roms for ages - very user friendly and stable, but it's worth experimenting to see which you like best. if you've got a class 6 card then check out some of the eclair roms for the live wallpaper stuff, superD,m dwang and WG for speed and stability and espresso for prettiness.

Which is faster? Super D or xROM (Eclair)?

New to HERO. Need a ROM

Hey gang,
I just bought a used HERO for my mother and would like to root it and load a custom rom. I will follow this guide to root it : Step By Step Way to root Using Flashrec(Updated 4/5)
I need some advice on a good clean rom though.
Below are my 'wanted features' in a rom.
Android 2.1
HTC Sense
stable (no need for constant reboots)
App2SD
good battery life
NOT overclocked
NOT themed (she just wants what she sees in the commercials. Stock look and colors)
keyboard with voice input (she sucks at typing and just wants to "talk to text")
LWP (optional but she probably won't use)
I looked at the rom area... and got lost with all of the choices.
She will never change a single setting once it is configured for her.
she just wants an "Android".
Thnx!

Everything except that stupid Blue Echo Rom, that thing is horrible
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Hi PapaSmurf

I don't follow you...
Please link me to a ROM that fits her needs (if that exists)

Try nfinitiefx45 stock 2.1 deodexed or damage control 2.09.01
Sorry I can't link from the xda app.
Also, if the phone already has 2.1 on it, there is a new rooting method. If it has 1.5, flashrec should work fine.
Sent from my froyo HERO200 using XDA App

Darchstar 2.8 !! My phone never ran so smooth I have very very little keyboard Lag.

Sooo, why not keep it bone stock since otherwise you'll void her warranty for nothing?

joehunni said:
Sooo, why not keep it bone stock since otherwise you'll void her warranty for nothing?
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I want Apps2SD so she doesn't run out of room so fast. I am sure she will add apps and not clean up after herself.

synaptyc said:
Hey gang,
I just bought a used HERO for my mother and would like to root it and load a custom rom. I will follow this guide to root it : Step By Step Way to root Using Flashrec(Updated 4/5)
I need some advice on a good clean rom though.
Below are my 'wanted features' in a rom.
Android 2.1
HTC Sense
stable (no need for constant reboots)
App2SD
good battery life
NOT overclocked
NOT themed (she just wants what she sees in the commercials. Stock look and colors)
keyboard with voice input (she sucks at typing and just wants to "talk to text")
LWP (optional but she probably won't use)
I looked at the rom area... and got lost with all of the choices.
She will never change a single setting once it is configured for her.
she just wants an "Android".
Thnx!
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Aloysius
10freakingchars

+1 for nfinitefx45's stock ROM. but get the odex version since you won't be using themes
Fresh is also a good option with slight visual tweaks (uses HTC Espresso launcher + vanilla lock screen)
of the 2 i'd guess the nfinitefx ROM is more stable since it's closer to stock, but I honestly haven't tried fresh.

Kcarpenter said:
Everything except that stupid Blue Echo Rom, that thing is horrible
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Lmao cold bro just cold. That's OK I prefer my red dawn anyways. Lol

My sig says it all....
(although DD is on a new version now... and does not have sense, but with a few simple flashes, who needs it?)
(PS, LWP sux, will not work on most roms (ie, not sticking on standby), and a batt drain, and slows sys down. dont bother.)
(PPS, after re-reading your OP, I am wondering why you are looking for a custom rom at all? b-sides the lwp thang, stock has all that, no theme, stable. root is good for a few extra things and I recommend it, but perhaps use a stock rom for stability and consistency....?)

kingdazy said:
My sig says it all....
(although DD is on a new version now... and does not have sense, but with a few simple flashes, who needs it?)
(PS, LWP sux, will not work on most roms (ie, not sticking on standby), and a batt drain, and slows sys down. dont bother.)
(PPS, after re-reading your OP, I am wondering why you are looking for a custom rom at all? b-sides the lwp thang, stock has all that, no theme, stable. root is good for a few extra things and I recommend it, but perhaps use a stock rom for stability and consistency....?)
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Apps2SD. Don't i need a custom rom to get that working ?

synaptyc said:
Apps2SD. Don't i need a custom rom to get that working ?
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ah yes, unless you go for a cyan rom, or some other 2.2 build, which I dont recommend personally, yet.
and make sure you have a class 6 card at least for a2sd...

I think you just want another Hero to play with lol. If you really want a custom rom, the odex version of Nfinite's stock rom has gobs of internal memory and is snappier than any deodexed rom.

kingdazy said:
ah yes, unless you go for a cyan rom, or some other 2.2 build, which I dont recommend personally, yet.
and make sure you have a class 6 card at least for a2sd...
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Lmao um a2sd can be used on any class SD card. U need a class 4 card if u want to move dalvik cache over but even still it makes the phone unstable.
Go with odexed version of nifinite stock rom. It has a2sd plus is fast and what ur looking for

wouldnt fresh be good for him to flash?
sounds like what he needs

Papa Smurf151 said:
Lmao um a2sd can be used on any class SD card. U need a class 4 card if u want to move dalvik cache over but even still it makes the phone unstable.
Go with odexed version of nifinite stock rom. It has a2sd plus is fast and what ur looking for
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lmao?
well, I have been told by countless ppl here that anything less than a C6 "does not work well", frankly not knowing what that exactly means, but apparently causes instability/data corruption? whateva.
guess you would know, right?
dont use it, dont care. just trying to be helpful.
+1 for odexed version of nifinite stock rom. i think that wold be perfect, and easiest to "suport" if needed.

Thank you all for the help!
Here is what I did.
Rooted using this 2.1 guide:
[GUIDE] How to Root Sprint 2.1 Release for CDMA Hero
Flashed the following ROM:
[ROM] Sprint 2.27.651.6 STOCK Deoxed w/A2SD 2.7.5_pf4a |7/31/2010|
(i have not tried JIT just yet...)
All seems perfect! I believe my Ma will love this. Who knows... maybe Pop will want one too =)
Thnx again!
~Syn

I would suggest leaving jit alone for now, it is far too unstable in my experience.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

joehunni said:
I would suggest leaving jit alone for now, it is far too unstable in my experience.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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Then u haven't used the new jit. Cause the one nfinite and I are using is very stable and very fast. There will be an update out soon for it.

What is the best rom Now?

I used now Eclair and is good but i need change.
I need stable, fast and good Rom.
What can u do "offer"?

Try different ROM's and decide for yourself

i have tried just about every ROM on this forum and I always go back to HTCDevil's "fast and light ROM v2.0.
it is fast, light and stable. i would like to switch to one of the "froyo hacked" ROMs, but i need my video recorder ans more stability than the 2 i have tried provide for now (motofrenzy and bastardized).
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App

Skoczek135 said:
I used now Eclair and is good but i need change.
I need stable, fast and good Rom.
What can u do "offer"?
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Anything eclair based if you want stable, Personally I've had no massive issues with Bastardized and having Froyo is nice anyway. Sense ROMs are a bit slower due to the lack of RAM/Swap but still usable but not as a daily driver

im using cyanogenmod 6 from kabaldan, everything works fine and its really stable

I would try "CyanogenMod" works really great.
But more battery consumption.
App2sd @ FAT32 is awesome

fg
i instaled cyan and i have many fc ;/
On fast and light rom fast consumtion battery.
And i return too EclairMod.

Skoczek135 said:
i instaled cyan and i have many fc ;/
On fast and light rom fast consumtion battery.
And i return too EclairMod.
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Hmm, what OC where u using?
Mine runs great...no FC no reboots.

motofrenzy is fastest rom for now. i can recommend it because motofrenzy is from official source..

Skoczek135 said:
I used now Eclair and is good but i need change.
I need stable, fast and good Rom.
What can u do "offer"?
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Telus Lite V4.1

CM 6 stopped all reboot issues from official Motocrap ROM for me.

I have a Milestone in Argentina and i flashed it with Telus 3.11 which in my opinion is for now the best stable ROM. You have to manual install the 3D Gallery as it does not come wit this ROM.
From Telus you can choose to flash CM6 (i think) which in my opinion is still buggy and lot of user report problems with that or this.
Other possibility is than Telus Light 4.x or the upcoming 5.x, but includes heavy overclock.
I my self stay with Telus 3.11, de installed all the system/app crap, some boot manipulations, root, and a own theme based on Buggless Evolution. I am happy with it. No overlock, etc. as i am not a guy who plays a lot of cpu intensive games.
Perhaps i am going to improving the java engine.
Resume: Flash Telus 3.11 and from there you go.

I'm happy with eclair v3a for now. Battery life and lack of viable camera keep me away from the Froyo roms. In my opinion regardless of what else might be packed inside, the eclair rom has some crap cleaned out of it, has superuser and overclocking and a some other bells or whistles and it all works.
Good enough for me till someone cracks the kernal or we get a real milestone froyo.
Regards, PK
P.S. I've heard this lament for other roms, why does ADW or power launcher seem jerky at higher clock speeds?

xslntx's telus lite rom v4 is amazingly fast and stable. A hybrid rom based on euro and telus. Governed over/under clocking so battery life is good, but power is there when needed. V5 is coming out which promises to speed things up even more.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App

proxuser said:
motofrenzy is fastest rom for now. i can recommend it because motofrenzy is from official source..
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at least majority of the framework + libs are original droid libs, and is as official as it can get..
but i guess camera was always an issue, but this is soon past tence, when we get a good kernel, i might just fix a final motofrenzy before it gets officially released, as cm6 is not official, but is based on custom compiles based off android opensource.

In my opinion, the best ROM nowadays is the Eclair-based EclairMOD v3B by 89luca89. Fast and stable, never a reboot! Froyo based ROMs are faster just running benchmarks, in everyday use I think Eclair is still a step forward..
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App

puffo81 said:
In my opinion, the best ROM nowadays is the Eclair-based EclairMOD v3B by 89luca89. Fast and stable, never a reboot! Froyo based ROMs are faster just running benchmarks, in everyday use I think Eclair is still a step forward..
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
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Eclair is actually a step backwards... i am fortunate to have tested a 2.1 on Galaxy S which really shows why you would chose froyo compared to a 2.1 rom.
Imagine opening 5 different apps, having 2 flash videos running in different windows and a game as well..
handling is so much so faster which is memory + froyo handling on top.
secondly for milestone, you get the option to move apps (non-rooted) to a sdcard, which is thanks to froyo too...
with all the extra froyo adds in already existing semi-2.2 roms, you simply meant patience is gold, but for some, that is already found.. i have been very happy with milestone running motofrenzy and motosense , and note: no reboots!!
but lacks camera, but i could care less, as ms camera is not worth much anyways...
with the early release of froyo 2.2 kernel, im sure you will upgrade very soon...
either official or to a custom cmX rom.

Froyo is surely much better as specs, but for everyday use, 2.2 ROMs have more disavantages than avantages, starting from the camera, battery life, mobile overheating, random reboot.. I'm speaking on my personal experience, maybe I was just unlucky!
Overall speed is true, is better on Froyo, but overall I still prefer Eclair. I've tried all 2.2 roms here and no one works absolutely fine on my Milestone, as better roms will come out, I'll surely upgrade to 2.2.. but now, Eclair for me!
=)
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App

rlm1967 said:
Telus Lite V4.1
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+1 @ TelusLite 4.1
tested HoNo, CyanogenMod6, EclairMod, and MotoFrenzy..
TelusLite v4.1 is the absolute fastest of them all... I realize i have over-clocks with some other modifications to the memory/kernel, but TL4.1 screamed past them all with EclairMod in second place followed by HoNo
I did all tests from a factory reset & blank install.
Current Set-up:
Android 2.1 (update 1)
TelusLite v4.1
LauncherPro 8.1 (paid)
OC - 125Mhz / 1.1Ghz @ 62Vsel
ResMod @ 1024x800 (EM add-in)
Kernel/Memory Tweak (custom)
Boot-time tweak (custom)
Mem-Hack (GOT add-in)
JIT-Beta (GOT add-in)
Flash for 2.1 (custom)

Ph0z3 said:
Current Set-up:
Android 2.1 (update 1)
TelusLite v4.1
LauncherPro 8.1 (paid)
OC - 125Mhz / 1.1Ghz @ 62Vsel
ResMod @ 1024x800 (EM add-in)
Kernel/Memory Tweak (custom)
Boot-time tweak (custom)
Mem-Hack (GOT add-in)
JIT-Beta (GOT add-in)
Flash for 2.1 (custom)
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is there any place I could find tutorials how to do this?
I don't feel like a noob nor I didnt skip the long searching part, but sometimes I feel kinda lost in android world

G1 what should I flash on it?

Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request

gottijr said:
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
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Are you using setcpu to overlock your phone? If you're running a cyanogen rom or cyanogen based rom the overclock kernel is included, you just need setcpu from the market, or you can get it for free here on xda. It will allow you to overclock. If you are already overclocking, and you need a 2.1+ rom, I suppose you could try SuperE or SuperFly, they are fairly fast.
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gottijr said:
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
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Personally I'd steer clear of Cyan roms until your more comfortable with setting things up, personally I don't use cyans but thats my choice.
I'd go with either EZterry's asop or the new enom 'official' that is out and has a few more configurable options. All the fun of the fair without the bloatware cm roms have and will ease you into the world of flashing

Relevant post, Gottijr, and thanks for responders. I got a G1 (with DMD64, 1.6 official tmob US latest upgrade) from fleabay for my daughter recently. I'm an experienced Winmo ROM modder/uploader/tweaker for years, but after many many hours of reading over the last few days I'm still a bit confused about what's really appropriate for this phone.
I've rooted so far, but can't seem to get a modified recovery image working ( likely due to dmd64 build?). Mainly curious what I should strive for in that I want primarily stability and app to SD since the internal memory is so limited. Not sure the Cyanogen mod is the right choice since I don't want daily use to require any tweaking. What would the experts recommend?
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but seems like a similar predicament.

Wipe?
With the newer CyanogenMod stuff I have found that wiping and reflashing the same ROM in recovery seems to help substantially on the FCs and lagginess.
I'm not sure why the full wipe / reflash works, but I suppose it has something to do with the inability to do a complete wipe. I haven't tried the new uber wipe that just came out, but I would be curious to see if that had better results as a starting point for a ROM install.
Also, I found I was happier on CyanogenMod with LauncherPlus over the included ADW Launcher. Though that was on the beta of 6.1 and I know the 6.1 stable has a newer version of ADW which might have addressed some of its annoyances.
I recommend setting up Titanium Backup for apps or using Droid Explorer to pull a backup of your ideal application environment. This will make swapping out ROMs quick for testing out what works for you.

mn3kgtvr4 said:
Relevant post, Gottijr, and thanks for responders. I got a G1 (with DMD64, 1.6 official tmob US latest upgrade) from fleabay for my daughter recently. I'm an experienced Winmo ROM modder/uploader/tweaker for years, but after many many hours of reading over the last few days I'm still a bit confused about what's really appropriate for this phone.
I've rooted so far, but can't seem to get a modified recovery image working ( likely due to dmd64 build?). Mainly curious what I should strive for in that I want primarily stability and app to SD since the internal memory is so limited. Not sure the Cyanogen mod is the right choice since I don't want daily use to require any tweaking. What would the experts recommend?
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but seems like a similar predicament.
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For speed and stability its difficult to beat the SuperD 1.11 rom ....essentially a donut (1.6) rom stripped and then filled with 2.1 (eclair) goodness. Sweet.