[BrainStorm] Possible 3G version coming? - Nook Color General

http://www.zdnet.com/photos/nookcolor-teardown/487636?seq=55&tag=mantle_skin;content
Have a look towards the top (left) on the picture. It looks to me that there is a spot for another controller and a SIM card slot (look at the solder pad arrangements).
Anyone else think this may happen?

houseofbugs said:
http://www.zdnet.com/photos/nookcolor-teardown/487636?seq=55&tag=mantle_skin;content
Have a look towards the top (left) on the picture. It looks to me that there is a spot for another controller and a SIM card slot (look at the solder pad arrangements).
Anyone else think this may happen?
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That is my guess as well. Check out,
http://www.sierrawireless.com/en/productsandservices/AirPrime/Embedded_Modules/SL_Series.aspx

while the processor can support it, i can say that the feeling i get is that B&N is moving away from 3G.

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Is it possible to add an NFC chip to the Nexus One?

The NFC chip of the Nexus S is located on the battery cover, IIRC. I was wondering if it is possible to install it on our Nexus One.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/26/rim-bank-of-america-partnering-up-for-mobile-wallet-nfc-trial/
According to this, it is possible to add the NFC chip to older blackberry phones that didn't come with the NFC. I'm not a very tech savvy person so I was wondering what other kinds of hardware connection you need to make it work?
Well, I would think it wouldn't take much to put a pre-programmed chip anywhere you want. But tying in to the rest of the hardware, and thus software... I can't imagine this is easy.
NexusDro said:
The NFC chip of the Nexus S is located on the battery cover, IIRC. I was wondering if it is possible to install it on our Nexus One.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/26/rim-bank-of-america-partnering-up-for-mobile-wallet-nfc-trial/
According to this, it is possible to add the NFC chip to older blackberry phones that didn't come with the NFC. I'm not a very tech savvy person so I was wondering what other kinds of hardware connection you need to make it work?
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Yeah I was curious after reading this post as well. If an ancient Blackberry can do it, surely the N1 should have no trouble. Then again, the Blackberry models have always had a sort of built in NFC for interfacing with their holsters, so it might be a build up on that.
dnlsmy said:
Yeah I was curious after reading this post as well. If an ancient Blackberry can do it, surely the N1 should have no trouble. Then again, the Blackberry models have always had a sort of built in NFC for interfacing with their holsters, so it might be a build up on that.
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I don't think it is NFC. I believe it is some kind of magnetic sensor. The Holster has a magnet and when the phone leaves the magnetic field, it automatically turns the screen on or something. But you could be right that it could be related to NFC.
Most blackberries have dock connectors in their battery doors that allow for power and I am pretty sure data transfer, thus of a new back was inserted, the infrastructure would already exist for it to talk to the phone. N1 doesn't have this on the battery door.
Well ok, maybe not the battery door. But how about the docking pins? They allow for data and power transfer? Sure, it'd interfere with docking if you'd mount a chip on there. But some people might be perfectly happy with that..
Or am I talking about completely different things here?
I'm pretty sure the docking pins would be a viable option, as they do transfer data (tell Nexus One to open clock, open car mode). I don't know anyone who would reverse-engineer that much though
pinke123 said:
Most blackberries have dock connectors in their battery doors that allow for power and I am pretty sure data transfer, thus of a new back was inserted, the infrastructure would already exist for it to talk to the phone. N1 doesn't have this on the battery door.
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Didn't expect rim to be this forward thinking.
Those docking pins, since they they are not connected to the door are irrelevant. They bear no resemblance to the ones on a bb because you can't just swap out the bottom piece of the phone for one with an nfc chip in it.
The only possible solution for this idea that I can think of (prepare yourselves, it is pretty out there) is to place an "L" shaped tab between the battery connectors on the battery and phone, have connectors on the other end of the "L" that sit on top of the battery, and make a new back cover that has an nfc chip in it, and connectors to the "L" tab. This would only work if there was a way for the phone to send data to the battery, if that were possible the tab would create a fork in the data "road" and allow for interaction between the phone and nfc chip. I highly doubt that the N1 has such a sophisticated battery, but I do know that this is possible because some macbook batteries get firmware updates pushed directly to the battery. So if you were a genius mechanical engineer, the phone and battery could talk, and you had a lot of time on your hands, you could probably do it.
NexusDro said:
Didn't expect rim to be this forward thinking.
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Actually RIM and Bank of America are partnering to do a pilot program of bb's with nfc chips:
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...wallet-nfc-trial/&category=classic&postPage=1
I wouldn't be too sure about this, but SD cards with NFC chips integrated have been looked at.
Edit - can't put in a link yet, so just google NFC SD card and there a articles on this.
How useful this would be for us remains to be seen. I don't think the NFC drivers are loaded into the passion release...
More than likely, we'll all have changed phones by the time NFC is widespread. I wouldn't get the Nexus S though
is it really possible?

Nook Tablet tear down

Well I 'll start the fire ...
Have you all seen the Nook Tablet tear down by iFixit ..
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nook-Tablet-Teardown/7121/1
Here is the Nook Color
http://www.zdnet.com/photos/nookcolor-teardown/487636?tag=mantle_skin;content
Don't all the parts look exactly the same as the Nook Color.. even the new battery has Nook Color on it.
Here is a comparison pic of the two boards. Attached.
So could the parts be interchangable...?
According to B&N, the Tablet does have microphone, so the bare board must have some sorts of difference.
Can you re-take a look at the Tablet's microphone, it should be somewhere in the lower left corner of your picture (opposite side of the jack)
Yes its actually on the other side of the the board and doesnot create a problem.
Just a small hole needed ...
It's possible you could run into problems with the lcd and touch screen controllers. I know the Tablet uses a different model touch screen, but as long as the connection is the same that might only be a driver problem that would require a custom NT kernel with that NC driver added. The lcd controller is on the system board and appears to possibly be an identical model (LVDS83B), but there are other numbers on the chip before that and I honestly don't know if they indicate different models
They look similar to the extent they are the same size and shape with some parts in the same place, but to me they look radically different.
patruns said:
They look similar to the extent they are the same size and shape with some parts in the same place, but to me they look radically different.
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Sure, but I think he's asking in terms of being able to swap out a system board from a NT (like if he found one with a broken screen that is being sold cheaply for parts) and many of the internal changes to the system board wouldn't affect that
The thing I like most about this tear down is their use of connectors NOT soldering. Makes replacing high wear parts much easier. Also the neat thing here is the interchangeability of parts between NC and NT, should make the screen/buttons/battery quite cheaper.
Aside from that I didnt see any notation of onboard bluetooth. Did I miss it?
unsivil_audio said:
The thing I like most about this tear down is their use of connectors NOT soldering. Makes replacing high wear parts much easier. Also the neat thing here is the interchangeability of parts between NC and NT, should make the screen/buttons/battery quite cheaper.
Aside from that I didnt see any notation of onboard bluetooth. Did I miss it?
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Bluetooth is built in to the Wifi chip on both of these. It still remains to be seen if the Tablet's BT can be activated though
boomn said:
Bluetooth is built in to the Wifi chip on both of these. It still remains to be seen if the Tablet's BT can be activated though
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The teardown doesn't list the wifi chip. I don't think they even exposed the processor fully. Are you sure that's true?
Well even replacing the battery with the tablets one which is much bigger is a huge benefit.
AndrewTL said:
The teardown doesn't list the wifi chip. I don't think they even exposed the processor fully. Are you sure that's true?
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Good question. Either I saw it on someone else's photos or I'm misremembering that confirmation
pavlos46 said:
Well even replacing the battery with the tablets one which is much bigger is a huge benefit.
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No that's wrong it appears the batteries are identical. So the only benefit possibly is replacing the main board.
pavlos46 said:
Well even replacing the battery with the tablets one which is much bigger is a huge benefit.
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The pictures show that the batteries are identical, and the Tablet's battery was even labeled as "NOOKCOLOR". The battery life difference comes only from newer, more efficient parts like the CPU, GPU and probably the screen too
Hmmmm, I have a Nook Color that the motherboard is fried on.
I was going to replace it with one from Portatronics or hope someone is selling theirs with a broken screen or sell mine for parts.
I'd be willing to try to replace it with a Nook Tablet motherboard and see if it works once they become available (depending on cost), the only thing that looks like it might give trouble is the touchscreen controller.
Everything else looks like it has the same orientation and connectors.
trevoroni said:
Hmmmm, I have a Nook Color that the motherboard is fried on.
I was going to replace it with one from Portatronics or hope someone is selling theirs with a broken screen or sell mine for parts.
I'd be willing to try to replace it with a Nook Tablet motherboard and see if it works once they become available (depending on cost), the only thing that looks like it might give trouble is the touchscreen controller.
Everything else looks like it has the same orientation and connectors.
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http://www.portatronics.com/product...rboard.html&XTCsid=54urbaq70eh1agh4fv3cklijj4
It is available now, pls let me know the result, i want to "upgrade" my nook color to nook tablet too
singlag said:
http://www.portatronics.com/product...rboard.html&XTCsid=54urbaq70eh1agh4fv3cklijj4
It is available now, pls let me know the result, i want to "upgrade" my nook color to nook tablet too
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Sorry, I got a great deal on one from a Nook Color from Ebay.
I replaced it and it works great again.
I remember reading somewhere that CM9 includes the touchscreen driver for the new screen but I could be mistaken.

Successfully upgraded the hard drive in an 80G9 250gb

I came to hate this thing, that damn drive took forever to spin up and caused significant lag on the tablet constantly, I regretted not just getting a flash based one. So, this week I got bored and pried it apart. Pulled out the drive, used Gparted to shrink the partition to 120gb, copied that partition to an OCZ Petrol 128gb SSD, took it out of the metal case, and sticky taped that bad boy in. Tablet is amazingly fast now Movies load instantly. I never see that hated drive access indicator anymore. I shall see if the battery life is any better. Putting a mechanical drive in something like this was a terrible idea. I have some pics of the guts of this thing if anyone is interested.
yes upload photos, pictures of the tabled opened too. is hd sata? thank you
It is indeed SATA. Has an extremely easy to pull out of the motherboard cable that caused it to short the old SSD I was going to use. So watch that. Also, the original drive was covered in gold metal tape that was a beast to pull off, I suppose for RF shielding. I forgot to take pictures before I took the drive out. The only negative so far is that I now have that weird screen anomaly, which has GOT to be something pushing against the screen's back, I may have gotten a wire in the way. I will yank it back apart later this week to address that. Didn't have it before. It has TWO big batteries in it as well. In the pictures, the circuit board near the top kind of by itself is the naked SSD in the former drive bay. Motherboard is at the bottom, in one of them, you can see the bigger battery laying outside on my table.
Mega props to you. That's am awesome project. I installed a sad in my notebook and it was the best thing I ever did for performance.
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using Tapatalk
great idea
have you a process ? (send me by mp)
is sata port also present in the no hd g9 mainboard? thank you
Nice Project
Nice project.
Was just wondering if the RAM is soldered onto the board or it is upgradable as I got the 80 G9 8GB non turbo and could do with a ram boost.
Not sure if the innards are the same as the 250GB model but worth asking as you have had it open.
Thanks in advance.
Psi.
wifi
Hello, could you say where is wifi antenna?
I have problem with the strength of signal...
Thank you
wonderka said:
Hello, could you say where is wifi antenna?
I have problem with the strength of signal...
Thank you
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I think that's just a universal issue with the archos g9 tablets.
You just got to re-position your router closer or use 3G dongle.
Psi.
well, I bought stronger router because of signal, but no change. So I compare my and my colleague Archos G9 80 and samsung mobile and my tablet was about 30-50% worse...
Factory reset I tried
No idea id the non-hdd has it, I only own the Hdd model. Since my case is actually thicker, I imagine it doesn't exist in the non-hdd, and seeing as I. have no micro sd slot. There are physical differences in the models. I was looking at the mobo, as I wanted to upgrade the ram as well, didn't see anything that looked like a SODIMM slot. I imagine its soldered in. I will check again when I crack it to fix the screen issue. I will attempt aome sort of legible walkthrough when I get some time.
sent from my Holy Rezound. its cooler than your phone.
steve adams said:
Mega props to you. That's am awesome project. I installed a sad in my notebook and it was the best thing I ever did for performance.
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using Tapatalk
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It's so much faster in this too. Battery life seems much better so far. Off charger all day, light use, at 75% now. I'm wondering if the HDD model has the 2 batteries to compensate for the extra drain. I found it odd that it has 2 different sized batteries wedged in it.
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Mine is the same. Even when sitting on top of my router I don't get full signal
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reverendbill said:
It's so much faster in this too. Battery life seems much better so far. Off charger all day, light use, at 75% now.
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SSD's are faster and since there is no moving part they require less power to operate
reverendbill said:
I'm wondering if the HDD model has the 2 batteries to compensate for the extra drain.
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It's very likely
reverendbill said:
I found it odd that it has 2 different sized batteries wedged in it.
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Physical shape/size doesn't matter, I bet they have the same capacity (connecting batteries with different capacity together would kill them both soon)
way cool reverendbill! (and assuming rather broadly that you are clergy, good luck with holy week!) i am considering purchasing the new 1gb version of the g9 101 250gb and am inspired by your work. i am pretty clever with a screwdriver and an idiot with programming and would really like to know how you get all your data off the old hdd and onto the new ssd. please be as detailed as possible (i'm sure others would love to know as well) pm and email if necessary. thanks in advance for your time and patience!
did you have to do anything special to the new drive? I see you did a partition copy, but is that needed if you don't care about loosing whats on it? Right now, I only have two movies and a few songs on mine because I just got it and haven't done much as far as copying my media to it. Yet...
So I'm just curious if getting a new drive to work is as simple as formatting it correctly and that's it. Guess I'd have to format it under linux so I could do ext4 properly? Or will the archos format it just fine?
I tested battery drop after in 3 different gen 9 archos...one with original, one with a massive 1TB, one with M4 SSD...
No significant battery improvements...Giving it's not scientific test but still.
Every time I measured battery after one how of playing video and always had a drop of around 25% to 27% in both of them..
I also tried a hybride SSD/HDD seagate and same thing.
So please do the SSD replacement for other reasons; quite operation, less, heat, less weight, less failure. As af as speed and power consumption not very much to gain acording to my tests.
The only explanation may well be that since Archos is already pairing Flash to HDD and caching...the HDD is turned off as needed. Ran seveal speed test reading and writing...and did not see much change...I guess it'all just go thru the cache flash used by the HDD versions of Archos.
That was my experience. I reverted back to my 1Tb HDD..No gain for me with an expensive HDD. The hDD is very cheap and if it fails I can still replace it just like that.
Hey guys!
hitman72 said:
is sata port also present in the no hd g9 mainboard? thank you
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Nope, there's no USB2SATA logic on the S models.
psiman24 said:
Was just wondering if the RAM is soldered onto the board or it is upgradable as I got the 80 G9 8GB non turbo and could do with a ram boost.
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RAM is soldered on top of the CPU, it's called PoP memory.
psiman24 said:
Not sure if the innards are the same as the 250GB model but worth asking as you have had it open.
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Nope, mainboards are different, see my comment above.
reverendbill said:
I was looking at the mobo, as I wanted to upgrade the ram as well, didn't see anything that looked like a SODIMM slot. I imagine its soldered in.
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Sure... see above. You'll never find something like a SODIMM slot or similar inside cost sensitive devices like tablets. Please be aware that most of them are not x86 but based on ARM SoC's.
The architecture is basically very different to what you've learned from your PC at home (there's also nothing like a PC-BIOS).
See my comment here as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24428967&postcount=14
Best regards,
scholbert
Would you be able to post pictures of how to open it step by step?
I have G9 80 16GB Turbo. The plastic part of the inner micro USB feeder is broken and sticked out to the USB charger pin. My USB charger cable now blocked by that and cannot be use anymore. Now in the feeder just remain 4 tiny metals without plastic support (4 USB pins connector) and not able to take charge by anyway, bricked because of no battery power. It was just 2 months old and no warranty since I bought it in airport transit.
1. I've checked my Archos and did not find any screw other than single screw in the USB 3G compartment. I really thankful if you can write step-by step dismantle procedure.
2. Can you share the shape of USB type soldered to the PCB to enable me order the part and soldering it alone.
3. Thankyou in advance.

Note 3 Sim Card removal

It appears to me every day I spend using the note 3 I discover a new issue and a totally different way to do previously simple things to do.
For one why is Samsung shooting itself in the foot with its backward design of a Micro-SD slot on top of the MicroSim card slot and making this latter stuck?
Second, how do you guys remove the SIM card from the phone without damaging the thing?
privatewarrior1 said:
It appears to me every day I spend using the note 3 I discover a new issue and a totally different way to do previously simple things to do.
For one why is Samsung shooting itself in the foot with its backward design of a Micro-SD slot on top of the MicroSim card slot and making this latter stuck?
Second, how do you guys remove the SIM card from the phone without damaging the thing?
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Push down on the area of the sim card that is exposed and then push it out
privatewarrior1 said:
It appears to me every day I spend using the note 3 I discover a new issue and a totally different way to do previously simple things to do.
For one why is Samsung shooting itself in the foot with its backward design of a Micro-SD slot on top of the MicroSim card slot and making this latter stuck?
Second, how do you guys remove the SIM card from the phone without damaging the thing?
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i found it so hard to remove the sim, sucks
How often do you need to remove your sim? I laugh on xda daily at some of the things people consider "issues".
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I remove my sim every day to switch it to my work phone since I work in an environment that is easy to destroy phones. Yes, its a total hassle....best way is to use a razor blade. It will pop it right out and not damage the working part...just a small cut in plastic for grip.
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Its a cheesy that's for sure. I cringe every time I have to remove my micro sd card, it just feels cheap, like it may break the next time I put my sd card back in the slot.
I put a little bit of tape on it to pull it out
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natboy said:
I put a little bit of tape on it to pull it out
now that's smart, unlike others who designed and reviewed the design .. I guess it's not meant for easy removal... add this to cons list
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Inside the package containing the extra tips for the S Pen there's a tool.
The same tool is used to remove the Sim as well as replace the tips
YouTube it
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Try pushing down on the exposed part with a pencil eraser and slide it out.
chadiz said:
natboy said:
I put a little bit of tape on it to pull it out
now that's smart, unlike others who designed and reviewed the design .. I guess it's not meant for easy removal... add this to cons list
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Good Idea. I already dug a little hole in my sim, so I merely put a sharp pointer in the existing hole and slide it down and out.
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the best way I found was to remove MicroSD and then press down hard on it with your fingernail then pull back.
So simple, so easy.
Thanks.

[Q] Z3C basically ready for Dual-SIM?

Under the same flap which covers the SIM there appears to be a second slot available (please see picture).
Anyone having an idea of what could that be used for? Is it that the Z3C is basically prepared/designed to run two SIMs maybe?
That is the D6633 model of the phone which has dual nano sim.
According to white papers other models only have a single slot.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/09/22/sony-xperia-z3-z3-compact-white-papers/
Not exactly and I'm aware of the Z3 being available as single- and dual SIM variants. This, however, is a picture of the Z3C...
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Compact-Review_id3794
photo was taken from website above^
which says it has a nano sim slot and a microSD slot
Yes, the picture is a shot of that site. It's also correct that the Z3C has a nano-SIM slot and a micro-SD slot. No doubt about it, yet they are covered by different flaps!
Upper flap:
1.) USB connector and
2.) microSD.
Lower flap:
1.) nano SIM
2.) ??? <--- This is the one in question.
I've added pictures of what's under the upper as well as the lower flap. Hope it's now clear to see.
blimey, it really looks like a second nanoSIM slot
It's probably the fcc certification and imei paper in there
noob_user_ said:
It's probably the fcc certification and imei paper in there
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Indeed:
Taken from user manual.
galuquetta said:
Indeed:
Taken from user manual.
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No, it is not the fcc certification / imei paper. Please check the picture attached above of what is under the hood of the lower flap. The fcc certification / imei paper is below these two slots.
Yep, that's the white one, the largest of them all, placed below.
Above it, there are two slots, side by side, which both look like nanosim slots.
Anyone with a phone in their hands looks to see if these are really dual nano sim slots?
I would be very interested in this too.

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