It seems really slow getting things off the ground. Apart from decdexed and roto who seem to have hit a brick wall, no-one else appears to be developing. To me, this seems really odd considering Samsung claim to have shifted a million plus units. Is there an underlying reason that devs haven't got behind the tab? Is it proving a difficult beast to master?
The whole reason i got the tab was because i assumed the dev community would fully back it. It doesn't seem to be the case which is making me consider jumping ship to a tab which i know will be supported.
What is everyone's thoughts?
I fully appreciate the work Rot and decodexed have done and hope they have more success in the near future.
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For sure there will be devs to focus the mod of ROM. But frankly speaking, after compared with the performance of my galaxy s, I can say only that the original tab rom is good enough even without deodexed an zipaligned.
Of course if there is better ROM, I feel happy too.
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I tend to agree - unlike other phones, stock performance is pretty good and there's little else that I personally need from the Tab.
Regards,
Dave
I think this device is absolutely perfect for cyanogenmod. With its speed and opensource goodness, this thing will truly hit its stride.
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Price of tab
A few of the devs I spoke with pretty much said they would love to work on it, but its a bit pricey and none of them had one. Maybe once a few of them get ahold of one, they will start developing for it.
i agree. Development has been slow. But i kind of figured it would be. Its because of the price of the device. i think the tab is good but not great. I was expecting more, i feel like it needs to be tweaked. i mean the hardware is there its just the software, imo, thats lacking or not keeping up. I multitask like crazy on this thing! I feel like it cant keep up with me which is a shame. I think we should start a mini pot. Meaning everyone donates a couple bucks. We gather the money and buy a tab. then we give the tab to one capable dev who cant afford one. This will kickstart development. Kinda like how google gave nexus' to devs. What you think?
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I think it is because the device with stock rom is fairly good and since jm6 it is very close to being perfect unlike the sgs who needed so many tweaks and hacks to get to this stage.
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What new features or improvements do you imagine in an alternative ROM for the Tab?
If you can't name a few, then what exactly is the point of developing one? As soon as the juicy new features of Gingerbread and maybe even Honeycomb start spreading around a bit, I'm sure a lot of Tab users will see stuff they'd like a piece of. That's when the dev scene will take off.
I would like a modified kernel. One that undervolts and overclocks the processor. I would like to see better memory management. I don't know what they can do there but my RAM is almost always full and I need to kill tasks. Didn't think I would need to do this but I do. Maybe include BFS (I heard its better for multitasking). I would to see a modified modem.bin file. One that allows both 3G and phone. That's about it. I'm on JM6 and it does run well but I have been having a few issues with this tab. Not enough for me to return it or anything close to that. I do love it. But I feel like it has more to offer.
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Thought of something else. Maybe push the camera to record better videos. Enable video recording from the front facing camera would be nice.
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Slow going
I thought for sure would see some great roms by now. This is the reason i picked up the tab. I'm hopeful development will pick up soon!
Rapax said:
What new features or improvements do you imagine in an alternative ROM for the Tab?
If you can't name a few, then what exactly is the point of developing one? As soon as the juicy new features of Gingerbread and maybe even Honeycomb start spreading around a bit, I'm sure a lot of Tab users will see stuff they'd like a piece of. That's when the dev scene will take off.
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Here are a few:
- working nandroid backup/restore (amon ra)
- integrated openvpn
- quiet hours settings
- fix for current home screen artefacting
- better inbuilt camera
- better music app / music widget
- phone function for all and correct APNs
- smoother scrolling and window transitions
- improved battery life
- inbuilt status and notification bar customizations
- flexible performance settings
- fix for exchange email start up and listing lag
- inbuilt torch
- improved stock browser
Etc. (CM nightlies)
Practically all that has been done for Nexus One, and Nexus was awesome when its came out stock either
From the little info i've seen on the Nexus S it seems that Gingerbread does the Hummingbird justice and it would be nice to see the Tab a bit smoother and better front camera implementation.
All the things that shmigao listed...
I've come to this from a Nexus One like others. The mod community really pushed that little fellow to be one of the best pocketable Android devices that currently exists. Just a bit of that love aimed at the Tab would be awesome . Still early days yet...
i think too that alternatives roms development is too slow...i dont know why especially since sgs and sgt are identical platforms..i have seen insanity rom on an sgs and i cant wait to flash it to my taqb too...please xda-dev an insanity rom 4 my tab!!!
build in cifs would be nice
rom based on 2.3 as we will have to wait few months for Samsung..
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Native SIP
This is my first Android device and the only thing I miss so far is native SIP which is promised already in 2.3:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html#UserFeatures
The most important feature to me is making/taking VoIP calls using bluetooth headset.
So Sipdroid is not doing it properly.
shmigao said:
Here are a few:
- working nandroid backup/restore (amon ra)
- integrated openvpn
- quiet hours settings
- fix for current home screen artefacting
- better inbuilt camera
- better music app / music widget
- phone function for all and correct APNs
- smoother scrolling and window transitions
- improved battery life
- inbuilt status and notification bar customizations
- flexible performance settings
- fix for exchange email start up and listing lag
- inbuilt torch
- improved stock browser
Etc. (CM nightlies)
Practically all that has been done for Nexus One, and Nexus was awesome when its came out stock either
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i would be happy once i am able to use my Tab for voice and data with my current Vibrant SIM. I am able to use voice after flashing the Euro Rom but still no data. COME ON SOMEONE PLEASE GET THIS WORKED OUT!!!! that is all i need nothing else....
I could be wrong but I think the main thing that is holding back development on the Tab is the lack of a stable recovery ROM. Just today, Koush from ClockworkMod tweeted that he would be happy to write a custom recovery for the Tab if someone would be willing to send him their Tab for a few days.
I don't have a Tab yet or I would send him mine. Perhaps a better idea would be to buy him one. Then not only would we get a good stable custom recovery but we would reap the benefits of his future development using the before mentioned TAB.
Put me down for $25. Anyone else?
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I could be wrong but I think the main thing that is holding back development on the Tab is the lack of a stable recovery ROM. Just today, Koush from ClockworkMod tweeted that he would be happy to write a custom recovery for the Tab if someone would be willing to send him their Tab for a few days.
I don't have a Tab yet or I would send him mine. Perhaps a better idea would be to buy him one. Then not only would we get a good stable custom recovery but we would reap the benefits of his future development using the before mentioned TAB.
Put me down for $25. Anyone else?
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I'd happily lend him mine, but what with me being in the UK it's unlikely. I'd put about £20 to getting him one.
shmigao said:
Here are a few:
- working nandroid backup/restore (amon ra)
- integrated openvpn
- quiet hours settings
- fix for current home screen artefacting
- better inbuilt camera
- better music app / music widget
- phone function for all and correct APNs
- smoother scrolling and window transitions
- improved battery life
- inbuilt status and notification bar customizations
- flexible performance settings
- fix for exchange email start up and listing lag
- inbuilt torch
- improved stock browser
Etc. (CM nightlies)
Practically all that has been done for Nexus One, and Nexus was awesome when its came out stock either
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+1 on the list
The tab isn't that expensive, it's practically the same $$$ for an iPad. I agree that the Tab is pretty darn good out of the box, but being an avid XDA- Dev poster and follower for all ROM's on the Droid Incredible, rooting and flashing ROM's is essential in which a simple animation here and there keeps the look and feel of the device feel brand new like is the case with my D-Inc. For a while I was considering switching to a Fascinate, but it only runs Android 2.1 plus other differences, but being rooted and flashing the most up to date version of Android keeps things fresh and helps me wait out for the newest version of the Incredible (Incredible HD).
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Hello ,
Now im thinking which phone to buy. I like Galaxy S but i read that samsung have a lot of problems(gps, lag, slow UI, Very slow when you install more programs, slow on multitasking) and etc. So is there good ROM for Galaxy S to fix it and make a galaxy as functional as htc desire ?
if you want to be able to mod your phone easy my advice is stay away from samsung, I have one and its very unfriendly
There are no true custom roms for the Galaxy S yet, there are modded roms that reqire specific base roms first.
Cyanogenmod has the Galaxy Series on it's roadmap but there is no working release yet.
HTC phones are the best if you want many options for custom roms and quick releases of future updates but overall I am pretty happy with my Galaxy S even though I do miss the options I had with my Magic in terms of roms.
Im not looking a phone to mod it, im asking are the ROMs will make galaxy much better than stock and functional like a HTC Desire ? Because its necsesary to write a rom in a galaxy S
MisterMonitor said:
Im not looking a phone to mod it, im asking are the ROMs will make galaxy much better than stock and functional like a HTC Desire ? Because its necsesary to write a rom in a galaxy S
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I never had any issues with GPS on my phone, it worked fine for me driving around.
The lag is a minor annoyance at best. The new JPH Froyo build seems to be running pretty well for me so far, just installed it this morning and is solid thus far.
What??
I have purchased HTC for year and I never happy with it!
Now have a Galaxy S and it is another, better world!
For the first time, after many year with htc device, have seen my Galaxy S in top of all other device in Quadrant benchmark, 2307! From now, Samsumg rock!
I still have Eclair JM7, but it is always stable, fast UI, no problem with gps at all(as already sayd), a lot of apps installed ...all good!
The only thing, have installed clagfix.
Who had say to you that things, probably doesn't know Galaxy S
Regards
MisterMonitor said:
Hello ,
Now im thinking which phone to buy. I like Galaxy S but i read that samsung have a lot of problems(gps, lag, slow UI, Very slow when you install more programs, slow on multitasking) and etc. So is there good ROM for Galaxy S to fix it and make a galaxy as functional as htc desire ?
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cyberz said:
What??
I have purchased HTC for year and I never happy with it!
Now have a Galaxy S and it is another, better world!
For the first time, after many year with htc device, have seen my Galaxy S in top of all other device in Quadrant benchmark, 2307! From now, Samsumg rock!
I still have Eclair JM7, but it is always stable, fast UI, no problem with gps at all(as already sayd), a lot of apps installed ...all good!
The only thing, have installed clagfix.
Who had say to you that things, probably doesn't know Galaxy S
Regards
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Highly doubt you got that score without One Click Lag Fix. The normal Quadrant score is around 800. If it wasn't for the people on XDA our phones won't be anywhere near as awesome as they are now !
MisterMonitor said:
Hello ,
Now im thinking which phone to buy. I like Galaxy S but i read that samsung have a lot of problems(gps, lag, slow UI, Very slow when you install more programs, slow on multitasking) and etc. So is there good ROM for Galaxy S to fix it and make a galaxy as functional as htc desire ?
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Well, if choice is between desire or galaxy s, you can choose the sgs with your eyes closed. As soon as we will have a stable froyo with voodoo kernel stable release, this phone will ROCK! I would wait new HTC models though...
On second thought, *MOVE* this ****ing thread, wrong section!
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Highly doubt you got that score without One Click Lag Fix. The normal Quadrant score is around 800. If it wasn't for the people on XDA our phones won't be anywhere near as awesome as they are now !
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He said he used CLagFix, so very possible to get 2k+ Quadrant.
As for GPS stuff, my GPS works 60% of the time, and struggles the rest, I feel like it's kind of hit and miss depending on which ROM you are using, GPS settings, possibly area you are in, etc.
Also, I absolutely love this phone(I have a captivate but w/e still a Galaxy S, and I use I9000 ROM's anyway), and find it pretty easy to mod, and it's pretty much unbrickable.
TrOjAnUK said:
if you want to be able to mod your phone easy my advice is stay away from samsung, I have one and its very unfriendly
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Not true really TBH. Look at how much hassle you have to go to to root a HTC Desire for example with creating a goldcard then flashing an old firmware the finally being able to root it where as the Galaxy can be done from a simple update zip.
Yes, but we cannot be sure customs roms will eventually arrive. Imho all devs will go for Desire Hd and Desire Z
carlocb said:
Well, if choice is between desire or galaxy s, you can choose the sgs with your eyes closed. As soon as we will have a stable froyo with voodoo kernel stable release, this phone will ROCK! I would wait new HTC models though...
On second thought, *MOVE* this ****ing thread, wrong section!
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And that will happen like in a year or so the way things move know...
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The lag is becoming less of an issue with newer ROMs but the GPS has a problem with accuracy regardless of what anyone here tells you. GPS was slow to fix in earlier firmwares but corrected in subsequent releases, this led some to claim that GPS is fixed, you'll see several comments from people waxing lyrical about getting GPS signal indoors when they couldn't before, but take it out into inner city roads when traffic is crawling a bit and it gets very confused placing you in the wrong lanes/directions etc due to poor accuracy.... basically it fails where even my old HTC magic excels, however drive on wide lane motorways and it's near flawless because accuracy isn't as critical.
Personally I'll still choose the SGS ahead of the Desire, but if you're not willing to tinker at all, then wait to see what improvements froyo delivers or choose the Desire because the JF3 firmware that ships out with most is awful, frustrating... useless!!
mrwookie6379 said:
Not true really TBH. Look at how much hassle you have to go to to root a HTC Desire for example with creating a goldcard then flashing an old firmware the finally being able to root it where as the Galaxy can be done from a simple update zip.
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Not true... i rooted a Desire yesterday, never done it before on a desire and took me like 5 mins haha
plug phone in PC, and run unrevoked... simple...
PaulForde said:
Highly doubt you got that score without One Click Lag Fix. The normal Quadrant score is around 800. If it wasn't for the people on XDA our phones won't be anywhere near as awesome as they are now !
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Hi,
true, about 896. But still true which is a system partitioning bad configuration, not hardware issue
I hope Samsung fix the lag in next release!
Regards
Keefo said:
Not true... i rooted a Desire yesterday, never done it before on a desire and took me like 5 mins haha
plug phone in PC, and run unrevoked... simple...
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If it took you 5 mins then it's true. It probably took less than 30 secs to root my SGS.
If I knew what I know today
.... I would never have traded my Nexus One for a Galaxy S. Here's why:
Spec wise the Galaxy S is the better phone. In real world, its utterly horrible. I suspect that the phone has not problems in the hardware, but the software really kills the experience.
What's great about it:
- It has Swype keyboard, and thats really impressive. Alas, it's not something Samsung created, they just bought it.
- Great camera application with lots of functions, takes great pictures. This is in my opinion the best thing Samsung has brought to this product.
- Acceptable battery lifetime, compared to similar phones.
- Reliable bluetooth operation, this is my first Android phone that works every time and all the time in my car.
What I expected but did not get:
- A screen that performed better outdoors. I washes out completely, and is not any better than the other phones I have had. It is bigger though.
What's driving me nuts:
- Exchange sync sucks bigtime. I keep loosing all my contacts until I force sync it again. My calendar doesnt work at all. Coming from CM6 on Nexus One I'm used to everything just working.
- Lag. This is supposed to be a fast phone. It's not in any way fast doing anything at all. If I upgrade an application from the Market, I can forget about using the phone until it has finished installing. Its a snail, and I don't care if its caused by the filesystem, the kernel or just Samsungs programmers. Its totally unacceptable and shows that this phone should not have been released. (Oh yeah, I am running lagfix, that doesnt really help, it just pushes the problem a bit ahead in time)
What Samsung couldn't bother to implement:
- Working GPS. My Nexus One and HTC Magic has far better GPS precision (and I'm not talking about fix time, which is also horrible on the Samsung). I'm glad I'm not using it for navigation.
- Stereo FM. Come on Samsung, this is 2010. I'm not using it, but why include it half heartedly?
What Samsung found more fun to do instead:
- Selection of three custom fonts, of which two are too ugly to use. Seriously?
- Widget that shows how many applications are running. Who cares about that, isn't Android supposed to end all this focusing on what is running and what is not ....
- Four different phones released that are basically the same. "The GPS isn't working. Should we fix it? Nah, lets make a phone version with four software buttons instead."
I'm about to give up on this thing. I upgraded my HTC Magic to CM6 the other day, and it seems to be running circles around my Galaxy S.
My only problem if I'm giving up on this phone, is what to get instead. Maybe the HTC Desire HD, but again it's basically the same as my Nexus One with just a bigger screen.
Guys,
I'm a stability freak, kind of the opposite end of the planet from the CM7 nightly guys I suppose... I love the extra features that are in some ROMs, but Enom's ROM has lots of nice features and is rock solid stable.
But as we all know, he has taken personal leave of Android since December and maybe he'll come back, maybe he won't...
So for you all who want a stable ROM similar to Enom, what are you considering, or what have you already tried? I'm hoping CM7 gets stable and released in the next bit and I'll perhaps move to it, but I really don't want to leave Enom. However I've heard Gingerbread is a bit faster, better storage efficiency, plus fixes, etc..
I'd create a poll, but there's too many ROMs to really put in there I suppose and I'd inevitably leave one or two out, so I won't.
Really never had a problem with CM7. It never reboots and I always get my calls/messages. What do you need more stability from.
You could always try the stock rooted rom plus whatever extras you need.
I am currently using Geo's stock GB ROM. It is running pretty good. DT A2SD seems to screw with the phone volume. (Not sure how or why, but I tested this extensively over the last 2 hours and it definitely does something to it.) Battery life is a little bit lacking. Perhaps a better kernel will help that out. The only thing that is really needed is trackball wake/unlock. I hope someone can fix the code for GB soon. I never really cared for FM radio, so no loss there for me. Aside from the lack of Enom's spare parts, I am happy with it.
lets hope enom comes back to us (greedily ).. i think were all in agreeance when i say he has his priorities straight... all the best to enom..
aside from that, i enjoyed leos roms shortly after froyo was released. i think he was on personal leave as well just recently.. his spare parts reminded me of enoms as far as options. even though he doesnt have the 'hardware skills' necessary, id love to see more from leo..
DT A2SD seems to screw with the phone volume. (Not sure how or why said:
try using the stable release if youre on the beta.
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Very happy with the speed & stability of Geo's GB rom!
CM7 RC1 running VERY well for me. No wonks, great battery.. stable and fast
Yes I am missing enomthers latest touch for the gingerbread ota. But family comes first. Right now I am using dsixda gingerbread rom with root, deodexe, dt's apps2sd, busybox. So far it is running good. Was on geo114m's gingerbread for a little while.
What I miss about enomthers rom is the ability to uninstall programs that you are not going to use. Now I have to semi cook a rom taking out the stuff I don't want. Only thing all of these ota gbs are missing is the trackball wake and alert. Might go back to the latest enomther until that happens.
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After testing different roms, I'm now very happy with SuperAosp rom.
DirkGently1 said:
CM7 RC1 running VERY well for me. No wonks, great battery.. stable and fast
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+1 for me.
coldchillen said:
try using the stable release if youre on the beta.
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Where can I find the latest stable release? In the DT thread, I only see the last beta (4).
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Where can I find the latest stable release? In the DT thread, I only see the last beta (4).
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ftp://dtuser:[email protected]//
direct link:
http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.2-1-signed.zip
I'm coming from Enom's ROM. I took the plunge and installed a couple of nightlies, and then CM7RC1.
I deeply regret it.
Even Dewonkifier didn't help me. Today my mic went silent and I had to reboot to regain it. I can't count the calls I've missed in the last week.
I don't like having to recompile it to build battery percentage.
Gingerbread completely sucks when it comes to launchers (or should I say it the other way around - all the launchers completely suck under Gingerbread). No launcher has been optimized to work with more than 5 screens - and that includes Go-EX / ADW / LP. They suck so badly I can't stand it. Nexus S has it the same way for almost 2 months - and it hasn't been fixed yet. I don't have high hopes of somebody fixing it too soon, until more devices with GB appear.
The only reason I'm keeping CM7 at this point is because I want to correct its RTL language support - it annoys me (specifically when mixing RTL and LTR languages, and more specifically - in punctuation). Plus, I hope to make it distinguish between LTR and RTL strings using a bit better algorithm than the "any RTL symbols in the string? => RTL string" current one. And make it adjustable under CM menus.
This week/weekend I hope to find enough time for it, test it, hopefully submit it (if I get a better solution than the current one), and I'm seriously considering going back to Enom's ROM, at least until one of the launchers gets GB-compatible and CM7 will be merged with GRI40 source and gets rid of the wonks. Never had this SMS bug for a year, don't think it'll bother me in another couple of months. And I don't use Copy-Paste nearly enough to justify GB sweetness. I'll really miss the screen animation...
Thank you very much kind sir.
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ftp://dtuser:[email protected]//
direct link:
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This may actually be my first post here on XDA after countless hours of reading, installing, testing, tweaking and starting all over with my N1.
Your post title says it all. When Enomther called it quits, I figured my N1 had reached it's zenith and would live out it's days rocking The Official 2.14.4. This ROM does it all: Fast, many kernels available to play with, feature-rich, STABLE, did I mention fast?
Out of curiosity regarding the sheer number of threads, I just had to try an MIUI ROM. Tried the stock set-up from miui-dev.com. While I thought the graphics and integrated feature set was great, it was very buggy. Lots of little things just did not work as they should have.
I was not interested in CM7 as bloat seems to have sapped away speed over the last several months.
However, I have run the Gingerbread custom set-up put together by Geo411m and it rocks! Very stable so far, good battery life with the stock kernel, everything works like it should and the performance is excellent. Menus are snappy, web pages scroll smoothly...there are very few issues and I am thrilled that the N1s have a new lease on life.
Only two gripes about Gingerbread so far:
1) No Trackball unlock
2) No power widget integrated into the pull down - I LOVED this feature for toggling system states.
Other than those minor issues that I am sure will be addressed in future ROMs, I am thrilled with GB. Now if only Enomther would weave his magic once again...
Thanks to the great community that makes these phones so fun and powerful!
axial_pro
I'm with the TS when he says that he needs stability. CM7 up until RC1 was just not cutting it, too many wonks and quarks. I put CM7 RC1 on my N1 and it works, but I ended up back on Kang - o - rama's version of cm6.1. Now that I've seen Kangorama release a version with CM7, I may give that a shot.
One of my biggest concerns is memory. If I don't need the stock launcher or ADW, then I don't want to waste the memory there. Kang o rama really works that out with its advanced installer.
For now though, I'm more than happy with Kang o rama. My N1, my gf's N1, and my roommates N1 all are running it and are VERY pleased.
So not surprisingly overwhelming CM7 responses.. So maybe I'll try that as well, but I'm still going to wait until CM7 is released and the "wonky" stuff is fixed.
It's funny how some of us are having polar opposite experiences with CM7 RC1. Really good for some and totally lousy for others
I guess it depends on the usage, and on the level of stability required from the ROM...
I think if I was used to rebooting my phone once in a couple of days - I wouldn't notice some of the problems. If I wasn't used to having 7 screens filled with widgets and icons - I wouldn't complain about the launchers and GB. If I had a lot of calls - possibly I wouldn't have the phone idle for enough time to wonk out. Some uses make the problems more visible.
ayvecs said:
Yes I am missing enomthers latest touch for the gingerbread ota. But family comes first. Right now I am using dsixda gingerbread rom with root, deodexe, dt's apps2sd, busybox. So far it is running good. Was on geo114m's gingerbread for a little while.
What I miss about enomthers rom is the ability to uninstall programs that you are not going to use. Now I have to semi cook a rom taking out the stuff I don't want. Only thing all of these ota gbs are missing is the trackball wake and alert. Might go back to the latest enomther until that happens.
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I'm running this one as well.
I've found it to be extremely stable and even better battery life than Enom's. I've also seen an improvement in bluetooth connectivity.
I miss most the status bar power control widget, better trackball notification and the flexibility of his spareparts mod.
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Only two gripes about Gingerbread so far:
1) No Trackball unlock
2) No power widget integrated into the pull down - I LOVED this feature for toggling system states.
axial_pro
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these are the exact two features I'm missing from the GB roms out there. I tried Geos GB rom and after a few hours I couldn't deal without having these features.
Hi
I've been doing some reading on this forum since I got my phone back from the "repairsman" due to malfunctioning speaker
So, now I've falshed the latest Modaco release, but however, the phone really get's laggy when you fill it up with apps. I get around 30mb of free RAM when everything is installed and set up.
I also experienced great improvement of my old Desire HD when I flashed to CM7 (gingerbread ROM).
So, now my question is, even though Paul did all his fantastic work on optimizing the stock ROM, are we going to experience the same "laggyness" in the future?
You might call me a bit of an app freak, but I never had these problem with my former HTC, and You would think the O2X should do at least as well.
Im aware that the O2X has lesser RAM, but shouldn't it be enough?
Could it be solved with the 2.3 release, or perhaps a CM7 custom ROM in the future?
I would really like to use all my apps and widgets as on my DHD.
What's your oppinion?
Well future isnt the future if you knew it. But my guess is that the potential of this device is by far not reached and will be greatly improved with the next update.
Since this device is so easy to root i would also say that the dev community will support it for quite a while.
Looking forward very optimistic. But as this tegra device is the first of its kind on the market we might have to live with the fact that upcoming devices use their potential better.
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I guess the problem with the MoDaCo ROM is that's at the end of the day, it's still built on LG's effort.
I suspect CM will be a whole different kettle of fish.
Download MinFree Manager from Market and set different values. I set "Aggresive" settings. It changes value when apps are killed from RAM.
Hey guys . Hi.
I'm thinking of buying this device. It got amazing specs on paper but need to know its performance practically.
Here are some of my questions!
1. How's the sound quality of this phone?
2. Tell me your reviews and experience on this device.
3. Tell the bugs you find .too.
Shriharsh said:
Hey guys . Hi.
I'm thinking of buying this device. It got amazing specs on paper but need to know its performance practically.
Here are some of my questions!
1. How's the sound quality of this phone?
2. Tell me your reviews and experience on this device.
3. Tell the bugs you find .too.
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The phone straight of the box is not all that 'flash'...in order to reach it's full potential you will need to flash newer firmware and/or customs roms...for increased sound quality you will need Voodoo Sound, and I would recommend PowerAmp also. Once all that is complete you'll have one hell of a phone (seriously)
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Some questions on rom manager
After i install rom manager and put custom clockwork mod recovery ,would i still need pc to flash roms with odin or i can do it without pc?
Also it would be nice if someone tell the procedure on how to install roms using rom manager?
Shriharsh said:
Hey guys . Hi.
I'm thinking of buying this device. It got amazing specs on paper but need to know its performance practically.
Here are some of my questions!
1. How's the sound quality of this phone?
2. Tell me your reviews and experience on this device.
3. Tell the bugs you find .too.
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1. There is a fair bit of support for sound quality on this device. I am no audiophile, but I think its pretty good. There is a Voodoo Control app that lets you get a little more in depth with all of this, a quick search for it might help you figure out if its what you're looking for.
2. I love my SGS. Tons of fun ROM's available, ported apps, despite what some say I experience great battery life, with the upgrade to 2.3.3 I have great GPS. The screen is extraordinary, and it has one of the best community followings on XDA
3. There are some bugs with the GPS system. Some people experience poor satellite locks. There are a few different things that can cause it, most with viable workarounds or fixes. Other than that....the only bugs I've found have been software, and usually fixed by Dev's.
beaver2233 said:
The phone straight of the box is not all that 'flash'...in order to reach it's full potential you will need to flash newer firmware and/or customs roms...for increased sound quality you will need Voodoo Sound, and I would recommend PowerAmp also. Once all that is complete you'll have one hell of a phone (seriously)
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and what about bugs?
Shriharsh said:
and what about bugs?
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Varies depending on what rom/firmware you choose as stated above about GPS, however I don't use it so doesn't worry me...
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out of the box my phone had 2.2 froyo which has been ok for me. The best thing about the phone and android platform is how much you can change.
The thing that made me choose this over HTC is the screen is it's a more manageable size and the screen is covered in gorilla glass - MUCH harder to crack/break. So many of my friends have cracked iphones and HTC's.
Flashing to late gingerbread/good custom rom's makes the phone incredibly quick compared to stock and much more fluid and usable.
No regrets on this phone, except that the SII is out soon ;D
beaver2233 said:
Varies depending on what rom/firmware you choose as stated above about GPS, however I don't use it so doesn't worry me...
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tell me more about rom manager and how it works?
gorilla Glass?
i dont think galaxy S comes with gorilla glass !!!
johnmerlyn said:
i dont think galaxy S comes with gorilla glass !!!
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gsmarena has mentioned that it is powered by gorilla glass. Have a look here http://xrl.us/bhk6hi
Powered by gorilla glass?
It has gorilla glass but gets absolutely no power from it....
Lol anyways!
quit asking questions and just buy the farking thing!
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Shriharsh said:
tell me more about rom manager and how it works?
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Rom manager ? There's no real need for that in my opinion, to start off you just use Odin (on your PC, very simple) to flash an updated stock firmware, 2.3.3 probably best. Once that's done you download any rom you want from the Galaxy S Android Development Thread. However to do all this, including using Odin, you (the phone) MUST have both download mode (with phone off, hold home button + volume down + power) and recovery mode (same but volume up instead of down). Pretty sure 95% of them do have these modes.
I would definitely recommend buying an i9000 right now.
The hardware is solid and reasonably future-proof, including some features that newer phones lack such as the AMOLED screen and Gorilla Glass. The 1Ghz processor may not be dual core as some of the newer phones will be sporting, but in real day to day usage the performance difference between dual core and single core CPUs is not really noticable, assuming you aren't doing heavy gaming on your phone.
The i9000 modding community is very strong so even once Samsung stops providing software updates to the phone, you will still be able to get the latest and greatest thanks to XDA devs. Often the ROMs you can get here will be superior to the stock ROMs for such phones as the Galaxy S II (and probably even III). You can also opt to install Cm7 on the i9000 now to ensure your phone will be getting regular updates for at least a few years to come.
Lastly, now that the Galaxy S II and other next gen phones are being released, you should be able to get a great deal on an i9000.
There are two major bugs for the international SGS line.
The first one, lag, can be fixed pretty easily, if you don't mind rooting your phone and generally doing things that void your warranty. The main problem is to do with the file system used on the phone. It may seem fine at first but it bogs down after a while and a week or two later can be pretty unusuable. Although this varies from person to person, and a lot of the newer firmwares are a lot better than the old ones. Still this is pretty easy to fix permanently if you have a problem, just flash a kernal supporting voodoo lagfix or universal lagfix and then convert the filesystem.
The second major problem is the GPS. User experience varies very greatly for this, some report their gps working perfectly all the time whist others claim it to be literally useless. The problem seems to be a combination of hardware and software and there are a lot of fixes which have widely varrying success rates and may work perfectly for one person but be useless for another. In my experience the gps is probably not reliable enough for navigation but will do alright. Sometimes it locks to an accuracy of 5m - other times 5km. If you consider GPS an important function, then I would probably have to recommend you look elsewhere.
Gingerbread, the latest version of android is available for our phones, but it has a few bugs in it. So some people prefer running the later version of froyo which are very reliable and there is lots of support and extras for. However as gingerbread is more commonly adopted it is starting to take over and get many of the extra features that are available for froyo.
Alternatively, the phone now has official cyanogenmod support after a long time of it being unofficial and too hard to make work as an official version. This will enable you to run the latest and greatest android versions for some time to come but at the moment it drains battery much faster than samsung based roms.
As for gorilla glass, it's certainly a great thing to have, and much better than normal glass, but by no means does it make your phone invincible to scratches and cracks. Some people may still prefer to use a screen protector, some people do not, it's really up to you to decide that. However I've seen far too many expect gorilla glass to mean invincible and they get a big scratch on their 3rd day or something and then complain too much. Having tried it with and without a screen cover, the plain glass does feel a little bit nicer, but if you get a good quality cover it's almost unnoticeable. Just take care of your phone either way.
Now as for sound, out of the box it is pretty average. However it has a high quality audio chip and its average sound output is due to rushed sound drivers. Supercurio has essentially reworked the sound drivers and has made a huge difference to the sound making it very high quality. There is a free version and a paid version. The Free version gets pretty much all the same stuff but you have to use a custom kernal with voodoo sound built into it. The paid version only requires your phone to be rooted and it can inject the voodoo sound drivers into any kernel. The best bit about this is you always get the latest version of voodoo sound without having to flash anything new. Even if the kernel you use has an old version of voodoo sound, using the paid up you will always get the newest. The paid version also gets the latest new features before they are brought to the free one.
EDIT: One last thing, try and have a look at the display model. The Galaxy S uses a pentile matrix sub-pixel layout which some people find looks funny and they cannot stand it. If the screen looks fine to you then don't worry about it. It looks fine to me.
I was rushing anxiously to buy the sgs 2 but fortunately I stopped to check out s1 and gave myself a chance to try it, after using that amazing phone, no need for the dual processor of the s2 with the present apps on the market now, maybe later on.
What I love in this phone:
1. Amazing screen
2. Compact size
3. Sound quality (boosted by voodo)
4. Fair processor speed.
I switched from htc hd2
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Shriharsh said:
Hey guys . Hi.
I'm thinking of buying this device. It got amazing specs on paper but need to know its performance practically.
Here are some of my questions!
1. How's the sound quality of this phone?
2. Tell me your reviews and experience on this device.
3. Tell the bugs you find .too.
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Since I bought this phone 8 months ago and still using it I reccomend you to buy.
Here are my asnwers to your questions. Please note that these are depending on my experience and opinions. It is impossible for me to be very objective.
1. Sound quality is perfect. I was using Iphone 3g before. Compared to iphone it is perfect. But it may such compared to some other devices that I did not used or have knowledge about it.
2. The screen is awesome. Color, sensitivity are perfect. Little bit less resolution than I phone but the look is better than iphone (iphone 4 of course). The battery life is about same compared with these kind of devices. Speed is reasonable. The thing that I do not like is the back button can be touched accidentaly easily resulting exiting programs. Not a big deal.
3. Bugs are dependable. If you flash a lot of roms like me, or install applications out from the market it is possible to have some bugs.
I wish someone would be able to port this onto our devices. Can anyone shed a light regarding this topic please?
Please put all your suggestions and questions here.
The more demand it is, the better. Maybe a developer might get the device and start porting well known roms with native jelly bean? 4.2?
=D I don't want to come across as a leecher, I am just interested in getting to grips with rom'ing and the android way. I don't want to regret getting this device. =)
That is just it, once the dev gets the device then things get ported.
However, I will say that with the latest releases from Samsung (4.1.2 on the 9300, will be with us sooner or later) with the latest additions including Multi Window I am going to stick with the TW framework as I feel these innovations outweigh having a cleaner Android rom. Having had mine for well over a month now and using a Launcher ontop of TW I can honestly say I have not experienced any lag anywhere which is the only reason I would go for a non TW build in the first place.
Just my view, am sure others will feel differently!
chippyuk said:
That is just it, once the dev gets the device then things get ported.
However, I will say that with the latest releases from Samsung (4.1.2 on the 9300, will be with us sooner or later) with the latest additions including Multi Window I am going to stick with the TW framework as I feel these innovations outweigh having a cleaner Android rom. Having had mine for well over a month now and using a Launcher ontop of TW I can honestly say I have not experienced any lag anywhere which is the only reason I would go for a non TW build in the first place.
Just my view, am sure others will feel differently!
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That's a good point actually. But I want to be able to try different roms so i can form some sort of opinion. maybe dual boot a stock android based rom like paranoid android, cyanogenmod and a touchwiz based rom to try the note 2 multi window features.
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Dual boot! Well that is a completely different ball game!
It would be really a shame if our device wouldn' get any attention. LTE technologie and 2 gigs of ram should be worth developing. I just asked teamhacksung at irc chat if there would be any developing, but the answer was no.
I really hope someone comes up with new ideas and methods (as I am a total noob at this stuff and would sadly never be able to do all the programming).
With all the customisation, kernel and stuff my old sgs1 is almost as fast, if not faster than my sgs3 LTE (apart of booting of course).
Let's get some loving for our black smartphones =]
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Its all timing realy, if they had released the 9305 at the same time as the 9300 then most would have opted for the 9305 but they did not and most cannot afford another handset etc... leavign our community pretty small. However the 9305 is now becoming more widely avaialble with sim free retailers starting to stock them soon so things may pick up, you never know!
We may loose out a little here but I guess all we can look farward to is that the next flagship will have the 2gb and probably LTE from the offest.
I have happily been running a ligher rom with a launcher and custom notifications etc... am happy with that, for now anyway!
hoeni said:
It would be really a shame if our device wouldn' get any attention. LTE technologie and 2 gigs of ram should be worth developing. I just asked teamhacksung at irc chat if there would be any developing, but the answer was no.
I really hope someone comes up with new ideas and methods (as I am a total noob at this stuff and would sadly never be able to do all the programming).
With all the customisation, kernel and stuff my old sgs1 is almost as fast, if not faster than my sgs3 LTE (apart of booting of course).
Let's get some loving for our black smartphones =]
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Yes dont worry about teamhacksung they are in tantrum mode with samsung havent you heard? LOOL Because samsung have not released the sources as of yet. So just hope we have other devs that step on the plate if you want CM10 Which i dont like that much. Or hope samsung releases the codes,
People like cm10 cause its faster UI but have you tried the 4.2 launcher on our phone? i think it Is exactly the same speed UI as CM10 only with less options. So It doesnt take much to get the same smoothness its just that touchwiz has more animations and is much busier then Pure JB... So patience is the key now and we have to wait and see which dev decides to start working
Yeah, my I9305 lay about 2 Days, because my I9000 with the great CM-based Mackay Rom and the fantastic Semaphore Kernel are awesome in speed, look and Features. But S3 with stock not.. But after some reading, I decided to Pandoriam Rom for my S3 and it's great until now. But i miss the simple Grey cm10 Theme, a solid Kernel to set govenours/deep idle and the whole Stuff, the only 3g Option, that gorgeous lockscreen and most Voodoo sound. I hope that will come with time everything.
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ROM: | Pandoriam 1.7 |
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