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When will we start getting games that don't SUCK such as envrio bear 2010?

http://www.enviro-bear.com/
godddddd look at that, I WANT that! How much longer are we gonna be stuck with card games, puzzle games, netmite or whatever that publisher is who puts out 80 thousand games a week and none of them work, etc etc
Don't recommend any games currently in the market because they all SUCK besides robo defense, and don't tell me to "just get an iphone" because I'm not buying a POS just to drive a car as a bear
ugh linux, I hate it, someone tell me to code a good game myself and then link me to where I start

steveyos said:
http://www.enviro-bear.com/
godddddd look at that, I WANT that! How much longer are we gonna be stuck with card games, puzzle games, netmite or whatever that publisher is who puts out 80 thousand games a week and none of them work, etc
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Probably for a long long time. Unlike Android, the iPhone OS is a single-device platform. When a game developer can expect its software to run only on a single device, its a lot easier to optimize and tailor the code. As for Android, there are three major shortcomings when it comes to games:
1. Android has a smaller marketshare. Making a high quality game takes a sizeable staff of not just programmers but artists, sound recorders, marketing, etc. Most companies are going to do what's best for their bottom line: invest in the platform that has the highest potential for return and then recycle that codebase onto other platforms where possible.
2. Android apps (for the most part) are interpreted VM apps. Interpreted languages without JIT compilers tend to run a lot slower than a native or a JIT interpreted app. Combine this with the fact that the first crop of Android devices are just inherently slower/lower specced than iPhone hardware.
3. Android is a device-agnostic platform. Meaning it can theoretically go on anything from a toaster to a x86 netbook. Even if a developer only targeted mass market Android phone devices, you're still talking about a very large spread between low end and high end hardware. The kind of games that run well on both low and high end hardware tend to be-- yup, card and puzzle games.
Although since Android is open source, the possibility for it to be customized into a gaming-phone platform could break it out of this mold. Basically, some company could take the core Android OS and then build their own single-device platform on top of that. Anyone who comes from the PalmOS world will know exactly what im saying when I say Tapwave Zodiac.
Anyway, I know you said you didn't want to hear this, and as a staunch Apple-hater it pains me to say it myself, but you should probably just get an iPhone if phone gaming is that important to you.

I'm happy with my SNES, NES and Genesis emulators. Got over 700 games for all of them on my SD Card.
What's an iPhone?

so apps is what you want
actully i dont know if this will make people happy or not but if you google on your desktop andriod games apks. you can down load them for free and use astro to install on phone games like midnight pool bowling asphalt 3 racing gutiar hero etc. i have a couple but thats just a way.... right or wrong...
steveyos said:
http://www.enviro-bear.com/
godddddd look at that, I WANT that! How much longer are we gonna be stuck with card games, puzzle games, netmite or whatever that publisher is who puts out 80 thousand games a week and none of them work, etc etc
Don't recommend any games currently in the market because they all SUCK besides robo defense, and don't tell me to "just get an iphone" because I'm not buying a POS just to drive a car as a bear
ugh linux, I hate it, someone tell me to code a good game myself and then link me to where I start
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actualy there recently has been a lot of really good games coming out. so keep your eyes open they will be here soon enough.....

jashsu said:
Probably for a long long time. Unlike Android, the iPhone OS is a single-device platform. When a game developer can expect its software to run only on a single device, its a lot easier to optimize and tailor the code. As for Android, there are three major shortcomings when it comes to games:
1. Android has a smaller marketshare. Making a high quality game takes a sizeable staff of not just programmers but artists, sound recorders, marketing, etc. Most companies are going to do what's best for their bottom line: invest in the platform that has the highest potential for return and then recycle that codebase onto other platforms where possible.
2. Android apps (for the most part) are interpreted VM apps. Interpreted languages without JIT compilers tend to run a lot slower than a native or a JIT interpreted app. Combine this with the fact that the first crop of Android devices are just inherently slower/lower specced than iPhone hardware.
3. Android is a device-agnostic platform. Meaning it can theoretically go on anything from a toaster to a x86 netbook. Even if a developer only targeted mass market Android phone devices, you're still talking about a very large spread between low end and high end hardware. The kind of games that run well on both low and high end hardware tend to be-- yup, card and puzzle games.
Although since Android is open source, the possibility for it to be customized into a gaming-phone platform could break it out of this mold. Basically, some company could take the core Android OS and then build their own single-device platform on top of that. Anyone who comes from the PalmOS world will know exactly what im saying when I say Tapwave Zodiac.
Anyway, I know you said you didn't want to hear this, and as a staunch Apple-hater it pains me to say it myself, but you should probably just get an iPhone if phone gaming is that important to you.
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1. Yeah, sad but true
2. Yet another "WTF were they thinking?"
Now about it being able to run on low and high spec'd hardware, that sounds a bit liiiiiiikkeeeeeee......... computers. There's low specs, high specs, yet the gaming market for pc is doing fine since for the most part people who want to game buy gaming rigs, I don't see how this can't apply to the mobile world (laptops are pretty mobile that's kinda close). But yeah, google really mashed android up regardless
Gaming's not important enough to me to get an iAnything, I'm also saddened by the lack of <INMYOPINION> other apps, every time I check the market there's 50 new fart apps or HOT LADIEZ bull and you figure people would learn by now not everyone has a low enough IQ to appreciate that crap
I just don't see why we've gotta wait so long, it's not like android is the first phone to do this stuff, and it's not like it's really a new platform, but I guess it is a jumbled mess of an already jumbled mess which really put a dent in my already dented trust sheild for google

rob_h said:
I'm happy with my SNES, NES and Genesis emulators. Got over 700 games for all of them on my SD Card.
What's an iPhone?
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I played those consoles when they came out, I want something new and inventive on my new and inventive piece of plastic
dskyers said:
actully i dont know if this will make people happy or not but if you google on your desktop andriod games apks. you can down load them for free and use astro to install on phone games like midnight pool bowling asphalt 3 racing gutiar hero etc. i have a couple but thats just a way.... right or wrong...
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Pool and bowling are things you do with friends in the real world, racing too though I've been told you're not supposed to but what do cops know, and the day I play guitar hero is the day that doesn't exist
Just saying I'd like something new and inventive, not the same ol' same ol' you can get on old nokias
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actualy there recently has been a lot of really good games coming out. so keep your eyes open they will be here soon enough.....
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If you're saying there's good games already on the market, the our opinions differ
I've got a friend with an iphone who's been coding for like 14 years, and has a six figure income thanks to it. I've almost convinced him to switch to android, since he hates the iphone and apple anyway. If anyone has any good links for android development, post 'em, and then wait because he's currently in the process of moving and I'm currently trying to stop my hands from going numb (oh the joys of growing old, my b-day's july 25th, I'll be 22 this year!) we plan on giving android a go anyway

The new palm OS isn't really better than android is it? I haven't bothered to check out the pré since I can't use mini keyboards designed for babies when companies put those on their phones I tend to automatically assume the rest of the ins and outs of the phone suck too

steveyos said:
The new palm OS isn't really better than android is it? I haven't bothered to check out the pré since I can't use mini keyboards designed for babies when companies put those on their phones I tend to automatically assume the rest of the ins and outs of the phone suck too
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Better is too broad a stroke. It has strengths and weaknesses, just like every smartphone operating system out there. Even winmo has many notable positive aspects (none relating to usability, unfortunately).
You should really give those tic-tac keyboards a try. They might seem like a joke at first but i've seen folks really pound away at them. The key is that they are small enough so you don't have to move your thumbs very far to get to a key, which should mean faster typing. But the key shape and travel has to be well designed so you don't accidentally press two or three keys at once.
Don't count anything out until you've tried it.

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Better is too broad a stroke. It has strengths and weaknesses, just like every smartphone operating system out there. Even winmo has many notable positive aspects (none relating to usability, unfortunately).
You should really give those tic-tac keyboards a try. They might seem like a joke at first but i've seen folks really pound away at them. The key is that they are small enough so you don't have to move your thumbs very far to get to a key, which should mean faster typing. But the key shape and travel has to be well designed so you don't accidentally press two or three keys at once.
Don't count anything out until you've tried it.
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I've had the Q and Q9a both had those midget keyboards and both made my wrists feel like they were getting run over by a monster truck with wheels dipped in sticky acid then ran over glass
Besides I'd rather stick with android because I hate it the least

Just to let you know, enviro-bear was actually a free game for the pc at start.
http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=4964.0

We could use some new games with better graffix now!!

i dont think ne good games with awsome graphics are coming out ne time soon maybe with a new android device just like they did with the iphone 3g to the iphone 3gs

Question From Iphone 4 User

Hello all, Im currently using an Iphone 4, its a great phone, dont get me wrong, but I hate the way apple have such tight control over it. Im looking at buying an HTC HD7, but haven't used the phone yet. Im just really looking advice from anyone who has used at lenght, or has an Iphone 4, and is moving to Windows Phone 7.
Cheers

Having just moved over from an iPhone 4, I'm in a pretty good position to give you some info.
1. Phone itself is great (I found the iPhone4's screen beautiful, but way too small to be practical for my needs)
2. The WP7 interface is MUCH better than the grid on iOS4, especially the LIVE tiles.
3. WP7 is still pretty locked down, but I can see that changing. If you're on a none jailbroken iP4, there's not much difference.
4. App amount seems to be growing by the day, but as this is a fresh OS there's nothing on it yet compared to the IP4. However, the apps that are on WP7 are awesome. The Facebook app is the best Facebook app on any phone I've used.
5. The execution and intergration of facebook, LIVE, Messenger etc is VERY well done on this phone. If you are a social person, you'll love it.
6. There are some limitations, some of which are annoying and will take some adapting.
Overall, I think the OS-side of things is superior to an untouched iP4's iOS4. It does need work, but the foundations are solid. Apps will come (Especially with the Dev budget MS has thrown at the WP7 platform)
As with all early adapters, you'll experience some frustrating times and a lack of features, so it depends what you're after really.

Thanks for the super fast reply. What are the limitations you talk about? I find the Iphone a Cr&p phone, but pretty good for internet surfing, that is what I do mostly, with a little bit of angry birds thrown in for good measure. The only other program use a lot is Nike plus for tracking runs, but I suppose it didnt take long for Android to have something similar, so I imagine Windows phone 7 will have a similar app soon.

JamDonot said:
Thanks for the super fast reply. What are the limitations you talk about? I find the Iphone a Cr&p phone, but pretty good for internet surfing, that is what I do mostly, with a little bit of angry birds thrown in for good measure. The only other program use a lot is Nike plus for tracking runs, but I suppose it didnt take long for Android to have something similar, so I imagine Windows phone 7 will have a similar app soon.
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My surfing experience so far has been good. Again, there's no flash or silverlight yet and a lack of HTML 5. However, Adobe have confirmed Flash is coming for WP7, we just need an official statement from MS now....I'm predicting it will be in the Jan 2011 update along with Copy & paste.
Like I say, the apps are popping up fairly quickly to say the least. If you like the occassional game, the HD7 screen real-estate is a big plus there. The quality of the games on WP7 looks very promising indeed (In my opinion, better than iP4 games, and this is Dev's first releases!)
Rovio will no doubt release Angry birds on the platform as well.
As for the tracker, I haven't seen one in the marketplace as of yet, but that's because I've been messing around too much with the Xbox LIVE games

Microsoft don't seem to be as controlling as Apple and so within a few updates you should be more free than if you were using an iPhone.
The fact that HTC & Samsung are making the phones is always a plus as then you have a choice instead of having to pick from one phone.

Defo think im going to give the HTC HD7 a go. Worst case scenario I buy a Ipod touch to use the stuff I was used to. I always adapt early, just sometimes I get frustrated with slow progress. Hope the microsoft app store doesnt go like the palm pre did thought.

How is the screen in comparison ? I am hoping its better than the Evos. I know it won't be as nice as the Vibrants just dont want the washed look.

risq said:
My surfing experience so far has been good. Again, there's no flash or silverlight yet and a lack of HTML 5. However, Adobe have confirmed Flash is coming for WP7, we just need an official statement from MS now....
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How MS is going to allow flash when they moved away from ActiveX, and I haven't heard they would want to introduce it - it is by far the easiest transport to deliver spyware, malware and viruses to your device.

Assassins Creed Xbox live game on WP7 is AMAZING

Guyz... if you have not tried this game, you should. I highly recommend this. After playing this game on my HD7, it made me realize how amazing this WP7 OS is.
It actually gave me jitters. The Soft D-Pad and action controls that comes up on the screen are so sensitive and intuitive, you would not even feel the lack of hardware controls.
And the Graphics rendering with 3D is just MIND BLOWING.
Folks who do not own a WP7 device don't even have a clue what they are missing.
MS took their OS to the NEXT LEVEL. I'm a very happy camper.

yeah me too.. considering hd7 doesnt have dedicated gpu right? but the game graphics is quite good.

1000% agree with you on this one this game is simply WOW .

only issue, it bloody takes ages downloading this game, with many others...

rafter_01 said:
only issue, it bloody takes ages downloading this game, with many others...
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Cut'em some skack. You are actually downloading an Xbox game on your phone. Its not like an App or something.
Try with the WiFi or from PC.

How bout a video?

^ Exactly. Big AC fan over here but as I remember the game was also released in 2008 on iPhone and it wasn't that mindblowing. Maybe this is a completely new version

yly3 said:
^ Exactly. Big AC fan over here but as I remember the game was also released in 2008 on iPhone and it wasn't that mindblowing. Maybe this is a completely new version
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No, you are right, this is the rather old AC game from long ago, just for Windows Phone is all. Nothing very impressive here. Its just nice to have it on a different platform.

You mean they didn't build Kinect into this thing?? Maybe that's coming in the refresh !

prjkthack said:
No, you are right, this is the rather old AC game from long ago, just for Windows Phone is all. Nothing very impressive here. Its just nice to have it on a different platform.
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I'm sure the 'liking' part is subjective. Though I cannot comment on the game on the iPhone, since I never had the device, I was very impressed with the game on my HD7. I did play the game on Xbox and it had all the aspects of the game on the console.

Sorry for the language but at least we've got the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMZ44xE66yc

Hmm it does seem it would be much more enjoyable on the HD7's rather large screen.

Its kind a port over from the iphone... i had it on my ipod touch so its kinda similliar..
but still a good game although I thought the apple one was slightly better than this one.
But then kudos for MS they are getting there atlast

Wow. What an experience. I just DL Assasins Creed, and I was blown away. This is not your normal smartphone, this device hands down is next generation. Be patient people- you are holding a Gem.

clarkdevlin said:
yeah me too.. considering hd7 doesnt have dedicated gpu right? but the game graphics is quite good.
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Well it has the Adreno 200 GPU, since that is a part of the snapdragon QSD8250

chaoscentral said:
Well it has the Adreno 200 GPU, since that is a part of the snapdragon QSD8250
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oh didn't know that. thanks for the info mate. so about this snapdragon chip, is this different from the one they used on HD2?

No. It's not different from the chip that is used in HD2

I love how you guys are flipping out over a game from 2008 with Nintendo DS graphics. Shows how out of touch some of you are with how mobile gaming has evolved over the last few years.
You guys should check out Rage HD on the iPhone or Epic Citadel. Prepare to be amazed.

I hope you're not implying that games of that quality won't come to WP7 soon. That's pretty idiotic, given how developers already do love XNA and Microsoft's development environment in general. It's been two weeks since the US launch. Give it some time. 3000~ apps in the Marketplace, obviously some crap (Just like in EVERY other marketplace) but browse around and there are some true gems. Trust this, mad games are coming.

kennyken747 said:
I hope you're not implying that games of that quality won't come to WP7 soon. That's pretty idiotic, given how developers already do love XNA and Microsoft's development environment in general. It's been two weeks since the US launch. Give it some time. 3000~ apps in the Marketplace, obviously some crap (Just like in EVERY other marketplace) but browse around and there are some true gems. Trust this, mad games are coming.
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Not at all. I'm sure there's awesome games coming to WP7, especially once we get past the first stage hardware and we get better GPUs on our phones.
I was just saying there are already mobile games that are light years ahead of Assassin's Creed.

Share Your Apps here

I am not sure if there is an existing thread similar to this. If there is, please feel free to remove this one.
I thought it would be nice for members to share the Apps that they are using and review them. I would start off with the ones I'm sporting in my device.
My Apps:
Amazon.com (It is what it says)
Associated Press (AP nice start, needs a lot improvement)
Bank of America (Must have if you bank with them)
Cocktail Flow (I can make any cocktail, thanks for this app)
eBay
ESPN Score Center (A must have if you follow any sports)
Flixster (I LOVE this app, prefer this over IMDB)
Google Serach (Not a big fan. Bing is just fine)
Grupon
History Here (Very useful if you want to know what is around)
Home Depot (Just for the heck of it)
Huffington Post (Needs a LOT of work)
KBB.com (Well, does what it is suppose to)
My Stocks (The BEST stocks app ever)
Prime TV (Good to keep track of your shows)
Realtor.com (Perfect if you want to check out the real estate prices)
Shazam (A must have)
Tag Reader (Never used it)
The Daily Show (I'm a fan of this show, not everyone might like it)
USA Today (First News app that took advantage of the Metro UI)
XDA-Developers (Needs a lot of performance tweaks)
My Games:
Assassin's Creed
Fruit Ninja
Full House Poker
Need For Speed: Undercover
Pocket God (I did not like this game very kiddish)
Raise Of Glory
UNO
I would Love to have a good Weather App. I currently use the HTC one, but I'm not really that happy with it. Any recommendations...

Where is that ANGRY BIRD app on wp7? people said its there but i search and nothing there.
How about SOUNDHOUND where you can detect what that song is and tells your the name of the song if you dont no the name of the song your listerning to on tv or radio ?
MARKETPLACE WP7 is lack.....

sandrax2020 said:
Where is that ANGRY BIRD app on wp7? people said its there but i search and nothing there.
How about SOUNDHOUND where you can detect what that song is and tells your the name of the song if you dont no the name of the song your listerning to on tv or radio ?
MARKETPLACE WP7 is lack.....
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Angry Birds is coming out on the 29th June. I don't know about SoundHound. Shazam is very popular and I use that.

well i basically use the same apps. Those are the popular ones.
i also play harbor master(2.99$ i think?)/ilomilo(kind of challenging, not free)/shuriken ninja(free)
how are you liking fruit ninja? i hate it on my HD7. it's just not as smooth as on my ipod touch/iphones!!

When i click HTC HUB there is 3 apps below it under the big clock.
2 of the apps there are not funtionble anymore.. and when i click it it directly goes to the markerplace for that app. I allready downloaded it ages ago..
its been 1 week since these 2 apps doesnt work or doesnt funtion anymore. Any ideas?
they are: COMPASS app
HIDDEN WI-FI app
these 2 apps just shows a wave logo in blue... doesnt work. i click it just goes to the marketplace but i allready downloaded it and it work before tho.
Unless WP7 have deleted these apps or are not funtionable ? because they still there in the marketplace

Please answer each of these and let me knoe wither these are available and in details please for wp7 MARKETPLACE.
Grindr ? for social gentlmen and women chatroom one-one prvt chat style. For same or different sexuality agenders either your gay/lesbian/str8/or more.
5-0 radio pro ? (this one is on the itunes its everything u can listern to world wide radio stations also lets you listern to police and fireguards around the world and also lets you listern to flight tracking audio around the world.)
XE Currency ? to let me know what is $1.00AUD in Euro or US$
TOWER? a game to built blocks to create a tall building.
STICKAM ? a interactive site where you can do live stream cam and watch others from stickam website.
SLEEP TALK ? an app where it records any incomming noice such as snoring or such when sleeping.
RunKeeper ? it tracks you where your runing with GPS tracking and shows a color line where street/rd u been with Kilometter symbols how long u been runing and how far you been runing, to keep track of the exercies routine.
QANTAS app ? to let me check flights and check my boarding pass on my phone.
Live Poker ? An app game to play live with others around the world playing poker cards.
Mental illness ? a interesting medical app to tell you from A to Z on all names referering to mental.. for example: anxiety or aspergers syndrome or autism and such and u click any name of these and gives u information.
ESPN freezeframe? an app game where you have to match the 2 same similar photos side by side and match what the left picture is missing. Both pictures side by side are the same.. but something is missing then the other.
Convert Units ? a great app to convert what is 5.8 in cmtall and or kg.. american uses different ways while australia uses kilos(kg) and centermetters tall (cmtall hights)
Discount elite ? a great app where you can see what is 5% off the mark price or 20 or so % discount. for example 100.00 book has 10% discounted. what will the price be to calculate that? well with the app will tell u.
Agingbooth ? a fun app where you turn your photo face into a older looking person with wringles around the face.
SoundHound? a good app where it will detect for you what that song is call. for example im listerning to a song i like. But i dont no the name of it. the app will listern to it live on the speaker and detect the name of that song.
IM+ ? an app where it contains yahoomessenger, MSN messenger so that i can log into one of them and stay intouch with my fellow friends.
Google Earth? Obviously we all know what this one is. So wp7 has it?
Hairstyles ? A Great app to style your hair either your male and female.. with hundreds of hairstyles to see how you would look like in real life with long and short and style hairstyles. Remember no cartoonist look hairstyles.
So does WP7 offer all of these apps too? or could it be under a similar name perhaps ? help me find out and let us know exactly the name so i can type it in the app store. All of these apps are what i enjoy in the apple store apps.
I would be so disapointed if wp7 doesnt even offer any of that. I wonder why.
By the way as i add more and more apps on my phone just where all the apps are.... it builds up alot and i have to scroll all the way down and down to find the app i want to use.... i wish this phone HTC HD7 would have them sorted in small icons just like iphone so i dont have to scroll one line all the way down to find it.
thanks love
best regards

@ SandraX2020
Looks like you already own a HD7 from two posts above. So why don't you check yourself if the listed Apps are available in the Market place.
I did not hear/see most of the apps you listed. But I'm sure MS will catch up soon enough. iPhone and Apple and the developers had 4 years to have the number of apps they have now in the market place.
Where as in less than 7 months, WP7 has over 17,000 apps. I'm sure in no time we would have all of them if not more. So, tight until then.

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[*]Amazon.com (It is what it says)
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I hope you don't mind me asking VizagDude but are you based in the states? If not how did you install the Amazon app, did you side load it? I had it on my HD2 running WP7 (side loaded the app) but since moving to an actual HD7 I haven't been able to find it (I'm based in the UK)? Cheers for any help!

Good morning all!!
First time poster, long time lurker.
I have a few apps that I love, some I like, and some that are just soso.
But here's my list anyways.
Amazon Kindle Not sure why I have this, I never use it
Army Creeds
Compass Decent, user once or twice.
Connection Setup Decent, user once or twice.
Facebook
Flashlight
Flixster
Games
HTC YouTube Not really sure the difference in this and the other YouTube
iheartradio Decent used once maybe twice
Imazing
iMDb
Mobiletag
NetFlix Love this!!!
Office
Photo Enhancer This could be so much better
Prime TV NEVER, deleting as soon as I am done with this post
Radio Hub
Rhapsody
Shazam
ShopSavvy
Sound Enhancer This also could be so much better
Stopwatch 4.4
TeleNav GPS Nav Subscription ran out
T-Mobile TV Subscription ran out
Yahoo! Mail
YouTube
But the real ? for me is, does anyone have a good way to use music files are ring tones?
Thanks for the help

The mp3 ringtones feature is coming in Mango.
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jojosplace said:
I hope you don't mind me asking VizagDude but are you based in the states? If not how did you install the Amazon app, did you side load it? I had it on my HD2 running WP7 (side loaded the app) but since moving to an actual HD7 I haven't been able to find it (I'm based in the UK)? Cheers for any help!
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Yes, I'm from United States.
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I can not simply believe enough how all of the apps names ive meantion obove this in this colon list and yet you say there is 15,000 apps on the qp7 and non of the apps ive meantion are not available or doesnt exsist on wp7 between the 15,000 apps thats available there.
These apps are on itunes and on android. I can not imagine more how wp7 doesnt have these apps at all. Sounds like wp7 15,000 apps are more useless apps and basic apps and nothing more then lots of apps design for other countrys. Most of the apps you find will be useless to use it in other countries....
I give you an example. you find lots of apps in relation to the the train metros... your not seriously going to download on of these if your living in a country nwith no train stations around your state. Then again all the 15,000 apps may as well be just useless apps. 80% from all i can see.
I just cant believe all the name apps ive meantion are not available. Considering there is 15,000 apps.
Then whats all this 15,000 apps? doesnt look like there is really 15,000 apps.
When i click SOCIAL i keep on scrolling it down and down and down i go.... and the further you go down and down as you scroll the page there is just 80% useless apps and not very interesting or no one using it to beging with.
But if you keep scrolling and look at all the scroll you did on the SOCIAL apps areas it sure doesnt look there isnt enough.. looks like there was only just 200 apps in there.. Yet interesting 15,000 apps on wp7 all of its content ? interesting.
Anyways WP7 marketplace should wake up and do something decent. It is lacking. I heard friends where i do go to california that wp7 is slowly dyeing from all they are concern about. And wont be popular until 3 years time.

VizagDude said:
Yes, I'm from United States.
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You say there is 15,000 apps on wp7 ? And yet all of the 8 or 10 apps ive meantions are not available on wp7 ? well that is odd because you would think 15,000 apps would be value apps to beging with. And after all of the 10 apps ive meantion obove are available on itunes and android.
Then again im starting to notice and realise all of the most 15,000 apps available on wp7 marketplace is useless. Well not useless but what i meant was that most of them are not really design to help you with things because most of these apps are like for other countries or local other countries needs.. like for example india radio... or canadian radio or stuff for thier locals.
Surely in my state we dont really listern to indian channels or canadian channels or thier local tram timetable apps... well wp7 is like that really.
It is a shame because 15,000 and counting is just crab apps most of it.
I also notice as i browse quite alot.. that there isn';t much ratings on apps and most ratings are on the top list apps... but if you keep on browing down and down the apps page... no one really have rated anything on all apps. only just the most important stuff that are more value that is rated.
Again there is 1.6 million users around the world who just brought an HTC HD7 cellphone. And yet you would have thought 1.6 million users would half of them all would of rate lots of apps to beging with ?
Then i did some analys and notice that 80% of all these people in the 1.6 million users who now own a htc hd7 was that everyone was mainly downloading the GAME store and that everyone was more focus on the GAME section game then anything other then just games on the Xbox game area.
I am not a game person but i used to when i was in my 20s. Know days what i like it good intertainment and intersting apps.
Believe it or not i downloaded 3 apps and in just 3 days later ive deleted it because one of them was a social chat and no one is in it... the second app was find me on wp7 around the globe and notice in my state no one is using this app... So it is a pain killer till its dorm.
So WP7 been out aproximate 7 or so months now. And allready owns 15,000 apps and continuing.
Yet like i said in my experience of using the marketplace is that 80% of it all is crab apps because most of the apps are only more related to a specified country like singapore tram app... or the local tv guide in china.. But these things are useless in other countries. And most apps are like that.
I also notice 60% of the most apps ive encounterd and looked t are quite boring and theres nothing interesting or nice with its graphics... because most of it is just basic writen words and nothing. Its like reading a book with nothing to make it stand out.
So why is wp7 marketplace so bad ? I spoken to my old fellow friends in New orleans and they told me you shoudn't have gone with wp7 because wp7 is dying down.
Mainly wp7 phones are mainly design if you only care about just games
And that its not like what you think as in android or itunes
So to finish it up i say wp7 is crab and bad and nothing excitement out of it.
Know i am thinking of soon to buy a tablet 10.1 screen with built in android. However installing android on the htc hd7 will be not so good if you ever try to uninstall something importnantly.
Itys interesting how itunes and android has all the apps im more interesting. Yet wp7 there is upsolutely no apps that i like which seems strange. Only the app i own is the world radio live. But the rest is again useless. So why with 15,000 and counting apps on wp7 marketplace doesnt have the apps ive named as meantion obove ? which is odd.
I bet all the apps in there wp7 is crab. or at least 80% of it is useless and again apps cost alot on there too
What it is more interesting is the games that wp7 offers... just the games... nothing els.
Not everyone is into games. Think about it.

Sandrax, are you able to stay on topic in one thread without that someone report me? Eh?
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You say there is 15,000 apps on wp7 ? And yet all of the 8 or 10 apps ive meantions are not available on wp7 ? well that is odd because you would think 15,000 apps would be value apps to beging with. And after all of the 10 apps ive meantion obove are available on itunes and android.
Then again im starting to notice and realise all of the most 15,000 apps available on wp7 marketplace is useless. Well not useless but what i meant was that most of them are not really design to help you with things because most of these apps are like for other countries or local other countries needs.. like for example india radio... or canadian radio or stuff for thier locals.
Surely in my state we dont really listern to indian channels or canadian channels or thier local tram timetable apps... well wp7 is like that really.
It is a shame because 15,000 and counting is just crab apps most of it.
I also notice as i browse quite alot.. that there isn';t much ratings on apps and most ratings are on the top list apps... but if you keep on browing down and down the apps page... no one really have rated anything on all apps. only just the most important stuff that are more value that is rated.
Again there is 1.6 million users around the world who just brought an HTC HD7 cellphone. And yet you would have thought 1.6 million users would half of them all would of rate lots of apps to beging with ?
Then i did some analys and notice that 80% of all these people in the 1.6 million users who now own a htc hd7 was that everyone was mainly downloading the GAME store and that everyone was more focus on the GAME section game then anything other then just games on the Xbox game area.
I am not a game person but i used to when i was in my 20s. Know days what i like it good intertainment and intersting apps.
Believe it or not i downloaded 3 apps and in just 3 days later ive deleted it because one of them was a social chat and no one is in it... the second app was find me on wp7 around the globe and notice in my state no one is using this app... So it is a pain killer till its dorm.
So WP7 been out aproximate 7 or so months now. And allready owns 15,000 apps and continuing.
Yet like i said in my experience of using the marketplace is that 80% of it all is crab apps because most of the apps are only more related to a specified country like singapore tram app... or the local tv guide in china.. But these things are useless in other countries. And most apps are like that.
I also notice 60% of the most apps ive encounterd and looked t are quite boring and theres nothing interesting or nice with its graphics... because most of it is just basic writen words and nothing. Its like reading a book with nothing to make it stand out.
So why is wp7 marketplace so bad ? I spoken to my old fellow friends in New orleans and they told me you shoudn't have gone with wp7 because wp7 is dying down.
Mainly wp7 phones are mainly design if you only care about just games
And that its not like what you think as in android or itunes
So to finish it up i say wp7 is crab and bad and nothing excitement out of it.
Know i am thinking of soon to buy a tablet 10.1 screen with built in android. However installing android on the htc hd7 will be not so good if you ever try to uninstall something importnantly.
Itys interesting how itunes and android has all the apps im more interesting. Yet wp7 there is upsolutely no apps that i like which seems strange. Only the app i own is the world radio live. But the rest is again useless. So why with 15,000 and counting apps on wp7 marketplace doesnt have the apps ive named as meantion obove ? which is odd.
I bet all the apps in there wp7 is crab. or at least 80% of it is useless and again apps cost alot on there too
What it is more interesting is the games that wp7 offers... just the games... nothing els.
Not everyone is into games. Think about it.
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Sounds like a flaming fanboy to me... If you dont like WP7 the DONT BUY WP7... It is as simple as that...

Well, I have to agree... At the moment WP7 is simply not the best choice unless you are a gamer. Games are awesome under WP7 thanks to XBOX Live. With android you have a bunch of free useful apps as well as great paid apps and is a growing platform with a huge future in the smartphone & tablet market with Android 3. Now with iOS, you have a bunch of slave apps hanging around iTunes and a phone with no battery to swap and no SD slot. Just telling the truth, don't get me wrong. I have a Jailbroken iPhone 3GS, an HTC HD7 chevron unlocked and a rooted HTC Inspire 4G with mike's 1986 Revolution ROM. So I have all 3 OS and in my opinion, Android is by far the best, Apple in 2nd place, and in a distant, very distant 3rd place is WP7. And again I have not one but 2 HD2 (both with custom roms) and was the owner of the HTC Tilt 1 & 2. So I am also a huge fan of windows mobile 6.x. etc... but reality is reality. And WP7 is at this precise moment still in pampers. Hope the mango update really delivers not some but many new features like multitasking as well as many others. (Hotspot, usb tethering) Flash should be priority one too, so at least they have something that iOS still don't have. Anyway, isn't this a post about new homebrew apps for WP7? LOL... take care everyone!
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Multiplayer apps that work with IOS

I'm looking for apps/games that can be played cross platform with an IOS device. Since a friend as an iPhone I was wondering if there are any apps that could do this?

Words With Friends- off the top of my head. Of course the Android version is the red-headed step child of the favored (by Zanga) almighty iDevice version. They don't even offer a paid version for Android version so we get bloated up with ads.
I'll be following this thread too as I would like to see/learn about more cross platform MP games.

I think one or more of the MMO's available is multiplatform. But who wants to play one of those?

Correction on Words With Friends- they do now offer an ad-free version but you have to buy "Zynga points" or some silliness with your credit card, in-app- meaning, you cannot download a paid ad-free app from any app market- unlike the iVersion.

HomerunBattle 3D is one that works for sure (online matchups) as for multiplayer lan games I'd think all the gameloft games that have mp (asphalt,uno,...) should work just fine.

The muffin Knight. Never tried cross platform but it claims to work. Not the best game ever but might be fun for you.
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Hanging With Friends...another zynga game like WordsW/Friends....

Minecraft works also when connected on the same Wifi.