So this is basically awesome.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859419
This thread seems like it could be helpful http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864174
Can it be ported to our phones?
I think if we could get this working everyone would most likely be grateful.
Let me know what everyone thinks. Im just throwing the idea and hopefully inspiration out there to try and get this working.
i was looking at it a while back, didnt really take a lot of time at it though. ill check into it a bit more, see what i can do
Thanks man its appriciated I see your doing alot for the forum now so im just throwing out a good work.
if this gives us a huge speed increase on the stock htc kernel with its battery life and quick charge time, it'd be tit.
Yea personally my phone lags out more then id like. Usually its when texting which i assume is because i use a 3rd party app and because i usually have a few thousand texts in my inbox but still any kind of boost without sacrificing battery would be AWESOME.
Gahh Its Lee said:
Yea personally my phone lags out more then id like. Usually its when texting which i assume is because i use a 3rd party app and because i usually have a few thousand texts in my inbox but still any kind of boost without sacrificing battery would be AWESOME.
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yea but to be honest, i dont think there is such thing as a completely smooth sense rom. i mean skyraider and frankenrom were close with a good kernel but i think if we got this to work to take a load off the UI/system it would be alot smoother, no little "glitches" or hiccups ya kno
Even if it's not 100% smooth if it helps without the need of overclocking well that's just great
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yea but to be honest, i dont think there is such thing as a completely smooth sense rom. i mean skyraider and frankenrom were close with a good kernel but i think if we got this to work to take a load off the UI/system it would be alot smoother, no little "glitches" or hiccups ya kno
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That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I never get lag, not sure what you are doing to yours but your are definitely doing something wrong. I have had Droid 1 users comment on how smooth the Incredible was compared to the Droid.
I am running stock rom which I deodexed and zipaligned and removed verizon bloat from. I also delete texts before they get 1000+ long. I never understood wht people kept them that long, blackmail later on?
I would love to see this on the Incredible though, I actually came looking to see if anyone was working on this.
if what I'm reading is correct, this might be the best performance tweak that could make roms truly fly.
I certainly would appreciate it tremendously.
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Cyanogen just tweeted they will support no phones with this. Why is that? Is this a bad hack or something?
But the speed increase looks phenomenal! I'd be down for this in ROMs.
Droid Incredible Rooted!
Seems to basically do what voodoo does for galaxy s phones.
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Well it seems like porting it is tricky in the second link I posted it says how the phone doesn't wanna act right after a reboot. Hmm well maybe we will get lucky and get this working on our phones.
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So only r2does is willing to tackle this?
Hmm I really thought people would be more excited.
no sure if im going to have a chance any time soon though, busy with the GRH build, plus i got finals next week.
people may not be interested because it doesnt seem like theres a large following. CM already said that d2ext will recieve NO support from him or his team.
Did the cm team say why they would not support this? Is it too much different work for each device and thus not easy to develop as a common rom?
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Per @cyanogen
Using the data2ext hack on CM ROMs will get you no support from us. You have been warned
Well this is the forbidden hack now
I dont mind waiting but i dont see why people arent excited i mean this would seemingly get rid of the need to overclock and with your phones which have very well known bad battery life that seems amazing to me.
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That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I never get lag, not sure what you are doing to yours but your are definitely doing something wrong. I have had Droid 1 users comment on how smooth the Incredible was compared to the Droid.
I am running stock rom which I deodexed and zipaligned and removed verizon bloat from. I also delete texts before they get 1000+ long. I never understood wht people kept them that long, blackmail later on?
I would love to see this on the Incredible though, I actually came looking to see if anyone was working on this.
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I came from a Droid 1 and yea huge difference but its COMPPETELY smooth... I don't keep a million texts and for the most part it is smooth but you do have to admit you get an occaisional hiccup or the lock screen slider isn't too smooth idk I love it wayyyyyy better than any other phone ui though
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Yeah, just like they probably won't support ROMs that have any sort of other mod of their ROM... and with good reason. You wouldn't support something you made if someone else screwed it up by adding a bunch of modifications or changing system files.
Gingerbread ROMs are going to be worthless until the source drops or a ROM leaks from another phone anyway. Why not work on something worth while in the mean time instead of something that's going to be completely abandoned in a month or so?
He went on to say later that the reason that they would not be supporting it is that #1 it is his belief that it is a benchmark hack, with no other use. #2 If you move the data partition to the SD (or better yet, we have 8gb of internal storage, which is probably faster transfers) when you try to wipe between roms, you leave a bunch of garbage behind and possibly have issues. Then the *****ing starts and everybody thinks it's because of your rom, but really it was just that the whole partition didn't get wiped.
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So I finally am getting a Nexus sometime this week. ^_^ I am so so so so so so so so SO excited. I had a couple question of course I am a BIG XDA head so I read a lot of stuff. But I was wondering from experience..
1: What is the BEST rom out? I am looking for
- Stability
- Good Battery life
- Little to no bugs.
(I imagine Froyo still being buggy and stuff?, idk give me more info on this I would like a FROYO rom.)
2: I bought the handset from a someone online, so do you think I can still get warranty if I call google?
3: What do you guys like best about the Nexus? I had a G1, MT3G, and now soon a Nexus One. :] I am so excited to hear what you guys think about it, and I am hoping the battery is better then the G1/MT3G? Of course I know with multitasking/ and rooting the kernal drains battery and such but whats your experience?
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G1-evolve said:
So I finally am getting a Nexus sometime this week. ^_^ I am so so so so so so so so SO excited. I had a couple question of course I am a BIG XDA head so I read a lot of stuff. But I was wondering from experience..
1: What is the BEST rom out? I am looking for
- Stability
- Good Battery life
- Little to no bugs.
(I imagine Froyo still being buggy and stuff?, idk give me more info on this I would like a FROYO rom.)
2: I bought the handset from a someone online, so do you think I can still get warranty if I call google?
3: What do you guys like best about the Nexus? I had a G1, MT3G, and now soon a Nexus One. :] I am so excited to hear what you guys think about it, and I am hoping the battery is better then the G1/MT3G? Of course I know with multitasking/ and rooting the kernal drains battery and such but whats your experience?
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1. most roms are already stable. just search or while youre reading around look at sigs to see what people have flashed.
2. the warantee is connected with the original buyer and when you call they ask for the google checkout account that bought it. But Ive read a few people getting lucky and got replacements.
3. SPEED. insane speed compared to other phones/OSes. With root you can do anything you want and apple isnt around to lock down porn apps and flash. IMO battery life is mostly to do with usage. some people claim insane battery life and call themselves heavy users but I surely dont get close to what they get :\ but it will definitely last you through a day once you stop playing with it too much.
Nice, anyone else with inputs on there experience? I think I will go with the latest Cyanogen ROM.
Welcome to XDA and the android family, however if you replace the ROM, it will void any warranty you might have.
well once you do have root you can test all 3 roms in about an hour. all you need to do is run nandroid and have titantium/mybackup pro. it will move your apps and keep their data. you might not get all the system data moved because the roms are a little different but switching roms doesnt take too much effort
i would try the desire rom for lolz, cm to see the hype, and maybe another like enom to see what others are doing.
Im not new to XDA or android I know hot to root and all that just to clear up.. lol. I hate SENSE so that is out of the way, I know what Cyanogen can do.. I just wish benbuchacher could have a N1 so he can make his kernal.. Er... I just will have CM though.
Do you think we will last long enough to taste icecream + sense on this phone .
<_< how bout we work on getting a fully working ICS rom before we think about ways of slowing it down and making it look bad
but in all honesty, I dont really think we'll see sense on it. :/ still would be cool tho I'm not a fan of it
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u made me hungry, now im going to starve -_-
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u made me hungry, now im going to starve -_-
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Lmao.
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Oh my God!!! I was going to say some really f'ed ups stuff (not in a rude or bad way) but I had an appifiny. If ICS is slimmed down just right then throw Sense 3.5 or as its known Sense Zero which is a newer lighter version of HTC sense made for the HTC Explorer which has almost the same specs as the Hero the i cant see why we cant have ICS with HTC Sense.
But yes lets get a good functional ICS first, then we deal with the rest.
Anything is possible. . .
Want a true answer to this? No you won't see it. Sorry. ICS is a completely different monster and is also a big build in itself. Throw Sense on top on that..... Sense lite or not, and it's still too big for our phone. IF I see any way for it to be done I will do my best and try but highly unlikely. CM's even starting to drop development for us older phones.
Yeah I tried and went down in complete flames. The zips for ics sense are way over 100mb. I'm sure it could be done, but would require more work than it would probably be worth. We've got plenty to work with now anyways
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It's why DX had to be 2.3.7 also. It's like Sense in some ways and I would have loved to use ICS as the base for it but can't. It could be possible one day. But personally I wouldn't count on it. Google made ICS a game changer. Meaning it changed a lot of how they did things in Froyo and Gingerbread. We're even lucky to have it booting on this old thing. Some phone forums don't even have what we do thanks to Jaybob the mean lean debugging machine. He's still working hard at it. I'm not much help for him though as it's beyond me at the moment so he's been a one-man band at this.
When I got this phone I told myself I wasn't going to be a flashaholic. I'm no newcomer to root or custom rims but the vivid isn't that bad. Almost doesn't need to be cleaned up and OC'd. But the little things are getting to me.
1. Choppy scrolling
2. Choppy Rosie
3. Small lag with daily use
I don't want to sacrafice the good battery life i have been having.
What are your opinions and what Rom should I flash for stability and smooth scrolling.
If the majority doesn't seem to think it's worth it I'll stay stock. Thanks for all of your opinions
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I'd say it's worth it. My battery still has a good 20-30% battery by the end of the day.
I can't say much about which ROM to get, considering I've only been able to get the VjRaider to work, which I love by the way.
Those choppy things were bugging me as well, VjRaider fixed 'em up. Along with some pretty cool features.
I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config
In a word, Yes
My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.
If battery life is a cocern for you, rooting lets you get rid of the juice hogging bloatware. Wild Childs Illuminati series are great roms. He has Sense 3.0 and 3.5 versions, stock kernels, oc kernels and voltage controllers. I you like the stock look, thats the way to go. Better than stock battery life and moar speedz.
oooh, I forgot also, this was WELL worth it for me, because I can't stand the stupid battery meter that sense has, I like having the percentage there, and after I rooted I could edit that then
davidcampbell said:
I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config
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Check out the app MyBackup by Rerware. I would post a link for you, but I don't have enough posts yet.
You can backup your system configurations, all the apps you have, what all your pages look like on your home screen, pictures, almost everything. And the best part about it is that you can do it online, or onto your SD card. Makes everything so much easier .
Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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That's what I am afraid of.
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That's what I am afraid of.
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Don't be afraid to get your hand dirty. Most of the custom ROMs available now are already in its 4th or 5th edition, at this point they are all pretty much very very stable. Think of it this way, whatever it is you like about your phone's current form, custom ROM does EVERYTHING better. It is smoother, faster, more stable (I used to get random reboots 3 times a week on stock ROM, not to mention the stupid carrier bloatwares and CIQ) and the ability to control the power usage through cpu control.
Trust me. It's not even close....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431053
im very happy with that one very fluid after draining the battery than fully charging im getting 20 hours of real used (over 300 texts an hour of calling, internet browsing reading Engadget app, about 30 emails, and 10 pictures)
i do get random reboots about once every two days or so tho
so if you want something more stock tho
i hear this one is good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454521
here is what I did to satisfy my lust for now, keeping in mind that I get no random reboots and I don't seem to have any issues with my phone at all.
I figured there would be some level of erasing my data so I wanted to get rooting out of the way when I first got the phone, within about 20 minutes of ownership I had unlocked the bootloader (which cleared personal data), installed CWM and taken a backup of my stock rom, I then applied the root update through cwm to get root, I am still running the stock rom and I can squeeze 24 hours out of my phone which is pretty impressive vs my htc hd2, I'm in a 3G area so I havent really used my 4G radio yet.
Then I went about installing an update to get my percentage on the battery instead of the stupid battery icon with no percentage, and replaced the home screen with ADW.Launcher and the lockscreen with WidgetLocker, and I'm pretty happy with the speed and capabilities of the phone now, I'm content to wait until ICS I think as I have not really had any stability issues with this setup, everything just works, one annoyance is there is a little lag on scrolling things, something I see is mentioned as fixed in the ROMS... so far its not a big deal for me, I think maybe if ICS cm9 isn't out by march then I will look at flashing a custom rom at that point "
I do really miss the polish of the MIUI rom I had on my HD2, MIUI did some amazing ui stuff and everything was where it needed to be... even simple things like a TOGGLE FOR WIFI in the notification bar... it seems extremely weird for that to not be there lol.
You watch, someone will reply now and say that a particular rom has that feature and I'll be like Fuuuuuuu and flashing a new ROM before tomorow... I can feel the urge to flash rising hahaha
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My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.
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Completely agree, I couldn't go back to stock, the speed is far superior, I've tried a couple of Roms, I've just flashed vjraider, great Rom! And I foresee an even better future! Thanks devs,
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Personally, I find rooting to be worth it. First and foremost, it is the most in depth procedure of customization you can do to your phone to make it "yours". The speed and battery increases are pretty well worth it as well. I am currently running HoliRaider 1.5a with no problems whatsoever. Speed is amazing and I haven't had any stability issues. Considering HTC has allowed for the bootloader to be unlocked, most of the difficulty that comes with rooting has been taken out. Take a chance! Just follow instructions and read them twice before doing anything major, you'll be alright.
Root is a must for me... All the bloatware they put on my phone i had to get off xD my OCD kicks in and i need a way to delete EVERYTHING i can and still make the phone functional haha
I use WCX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454521 3.5 and with his newest build I have been getting no reboots at 1.5ghz and its running like a charm
Battery life is a lot better now thank goodness! and I forgot to quote whoever said this but I too cant wait for something like CM7 or CM9 (not miui I hate it) Sense itself is too much for me though its beautiful its not needed I'd rather have INCREDIBLE speed than looks So im sticking with WCX untill CM9 becomes doable or they quickly get CM7 ready to go
I haven't seen much on roms lately. All the one's out here aren't stable either. We only have a couple fully working roms and none of them are being update. If I get a new phone any suggestions on what it should be to take advantage of the most fully functional roms?
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I found Liberty ROM to be quite stable, and while I don't want to jinx it, I've been running Maverick 4.0 for a day or so and it seems great!
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked, it will open up more kernel dev options (for the genius' out there!) which could open up more/better ROM possibilities for us (fingers crossed).
I don't think I'll be upgrading to another phone until a new physical keyboard model comes out. And hopefully it's quad-core with at least a gig of RAM. (512mb on my XT860 has been killing me) ;D
Unfortunately I dont think the kernel will ever be unlocked on our phones... that's Motorola for you.
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But now it's Google...we may get lucky
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Ever since they switched to the nightlies and stopped posting new beta's on here It slowed down, IMO.
I'm happy with Mavrom 4.0 I guess, but would've loved to see hashcode etc. focussing on getting video on ICS, rather than adding features etc. Other ROM makers could've tried that. Who cares about advanced settings when you can't even record a video?
Google is going to probably sell Motorola hardware section to Huawei and keep the core just as legal requirements. Also, they said they are not going to interfere with Motorola decisions on their products. Google only bought Motorola for their parents, nothing more, nothing less.
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Exactly ... but I don't want this to be a Motorola bash... even tho its easy to do... lol... so for now I would like to see a list of roms that are fully functional. I'm on liberty and I keep going back to that just because everything works... what other roms are in this category. And I agree that a extra features aren't important till a fully or close to fully completely working roms is in place. What's the point of all the bells and whistles if you can't even use the basic functions of a phone.. don't get me wrong now. I love trying new roms but it becomes a downer when you get one that has cool extras but you end up going back to a working rom for taking video or watching Netflix .... even if your on safestrap to go back to that functional rom. And the other question is if I change phones what would be a good phone to go to just for rom purposes ...
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The problem iswith the hardware codes and drivers. Every phone probably has this problem with ics. They add more features cause this is almost impossible. The attic has a really good developer support. I would definitely go back yo it if I could but I had nothing but problems with mine. Anyone know how to make a rom? I wanna get into it.
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The attic has a really good developer support.
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I assume you mean Atrix instead of attic?
The real issue to all of the problems is the bootloader. When you can customize the kernel to fit your rom you pretty much take care of any problems. Not to say there aren't roms with custom kernels that don't have issues .... there are but thats due to other things. Programming or incompatibly issues. All of our roms are franken roms held together by bungee cords and duct tape. The devs do a great job with what they have at hand so when time comes for them to build a rom on a phone with a unlocked bootloader, I don't blame them.. much more freedom and the ability to create awesome roms the way they want. All the stable roms we have are just built around the original with some cleaning up and a splash of color... I wonder what it feels like to know when you pick a rom no matter what it is and you know its going to work and the only reason you don't stick with it is because you don't like the way it looks or it doesn't have a extra you want... how sweet.
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Yeah... it was good when i had my Desire Z. All kinds of roms for that thing!
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I've been flashing roms for almost 4 years now on almost a dozen phones. My go-to rom has always been CM, and for a while I was flashing all the nightlies for this phone and setting everything up from scratch every few days.
But a few weeks ago, something dawned on me: after untold hundreds of rom flashes, I think I'm actually tired of doing this. With all the unresolved data issues on AOSP roms and various other minor problems, I suddenly couldn't bring myself to modify my phone in a way that would actually remove functionality. I've now been on stock rooted MF9 for going on a month, and other than the inevitable 4.3 update, I don't think I'll be flashing any more roms on this or any other phone.
I've been a die-hard rom flasher for almost as long as I've been using Android devices and I certainly didn't see this coming. Has anyone else experienced this?
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Yeah ive been wondering if the data (signal) issues will ever be resolved.
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Yep same here ive flashed thousands of times. About a year ago on my s2 I had aosp . Well we got lost the kids were screaming gps didnt work and data speeds were awful. I flashed back to stock or stock based and everything was great. At that point I realized stick with stock. I will say that the touch wiz based roms here are wonderful. I feel you on fatigue. I've been on sacs rom for a long time and don't plan on changing it.
I'm with you. I got sick o of flashing roms all the time too. Been running stock for a about a month now.
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I feel the same only have flashed a couple Roms and am also just sick of always setting up new Roms. Just find one and stick with it I am on sacs. Was on Slim Bean but sacs is amazing and its TW based so don't have to worry about all the bugs that Aosp brings. But I gotta say Slim Bean was solid. Stable build 1 everything was working data ,GPS ,mms I had no problems. I remember just flashing every single ROM that was available back in my OG Evovdays.
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LoL. Feel almost the same here....
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Well I've been on stock Deodexed for getting close to a month, before that I flashed all the roms, my wife said I had a problem lol, but for the time being I'm quite happy with my phone being fully functional and having 4g every where I go. I'm still always looking at xda for the next big thing, but as of now I'm staying slightly modded with the convenience of a working PHONE :beer:
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Well I've been on stock Deodexed for getting close to a month, before that I flashed all the roms, my wife said I had a problem lol, but for the time being I'm quite happy with my phone being fully functional and having 4g every where I go. I'm still always looking at xda for the next big thing, but as of now I'm staying slightly modded with the convenience of a working PHONE :beer:
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That's kind of how I am. I still compulsively check XDA every day even though I never flash anything anymore. It's just really nice to have a phone where everything works. MMS is a good example of something that I don't necessarily use all the time but it's nice for it to be functional when I need it. I suppose I'll probably give KitKat a spin when the roms start rolling out though
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Same here, I know there are some awesome developers. But I really need stability. I look for the slimest close to stock ROM I can find.
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This is so funny. I must have tried 50 ROMs on my various phones in the past few years. So many have claimed “visious battery ilfe! Screaming speeds!!!! This will make you cry with tears of joy!”
And then they run about as fast as stock, often with worse battery life, and with broken functionality.
There were some exceptions, like MeanBean on the Evo LTE, and a few others which ran pretty much flawlessly, but switching back to stock always makes me think, “wow, this is not any worse than that custom ROM I just had – a little uglier, but stock runs better…”
(Of course I always appreciate the hard work, and it is fun experimenting.)
Stock runs great on the gs4. Over the last 4 days I've averaged 15.5 hours on time with 3.5 hours screen time. About 70% on WiFi and 30% 3G
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This is so funny. I must have tried 50 ROMs on my various phones in the past few years. So many have claimed “visious battery ilfe! Screaming speeds!!!! This will make you cry with tears of joy!”
And then they run about as fast as stock, often with worse battery life, and with broken functionality.
There were some exceptions, like MeanBean on the Evo LTE, and a few others which ran pretty much flawlessly, but switching back to stock always makes me think, “wow, this is not any worse than that custom ROM I just had – a little uglier, but stock runs better…”
(Of course I always appreciate the hard work, and it is fun experimenting.)
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I've also never experienced the outlandish speed and battery claims of so many of these roms, including Mean Bean which I never found to work as flawlessly as advertised. Honestly, I think a lot of it is just placebo effect.
I mean no disrespect to the hard-working devs, of course - I guess my personal preferences are just changing. I'm not interested in spending tons of time messing with voltages and clock speeds and themes and kernels and APNs, etc. anymore.
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Well a mean if you look at it from a different perspective "back in the day" yeah, what these devs claimed to be true, greater battery life, faster speeds, etc you did get and there was real improvement. Still we gotta understand back then stock android and phone makers weren't up to par and the phones weren't as powerful. Android was lacking in a lot of stuff and that's were modding grew.
But I don't need to give a history lesson, anyone who's been here for a while know why and how this all came about.
My point is though that android has caught up to the need for modding. Generally speaking (barring a persons provider) you get everything and in some cases more than you need without the need to mod.
Also some of the mods are also now available without being rooted, although not at a fast pace, but still on the rise.
I personally wouldn't coin it exactly as being "tied of flashing" but more so as some of you have mentioned the need is no longer there.
You can debloat your phone without root (I forgot the app/method), you get great battery life worth stock and of you even want to go further you have apps like greenify and my personal fav juice defender that can be used without root and so many other things.
There's other factors too that does make a difference like update cycle and harder issues and more phones etc that also leads people to the point of just sticking to stock but there are the petiole here that just like to tinker no matter what skill level you're at.
One last thing I would put out there is that us who are users of these mods wouldn't it be different if you were the ones creating them?
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Same here, im running stock odexed rooted.. Just deleted sone bloatware I never use. Used foldermount to save some space so I can install big games I like..Ive been happy stock odexed. I FIND NOVA LAUNCHER THE BEST.. SO SMOOTH AND U CAN ADJUST THE ANIMATION SPEED AND TRANSITION...
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Well a mean if you look at it from a different perspective "back in the day" yeah, what these devs claimed to be true, greater battery life, faster speeds, etc you did get and there was real improvement. Still we gotta understand back then stock android and phone makers weren't up to par and the phones weren't as powerful. Android was lacking in a lot of stuff and that's were modding grew.
But I don't need to give a history lesson, anyone who's been here for a while know why and how this all came about.
My point is though that android has caught up to the need for modding. Generally speaking (barring a persons provider) you get everything and in some cases more than you need without the need to mod.
Also some of the mods are also now available without being rooted, although not at a fast pace, but still on the rise.
I personally wouldn't coin it exactly as being "tied of flashing" but more so as some of you have mentioned the need is no longer there.
You can debloat your phone without root (I forgot the app/method), you get great battery life worth stock and of you even want to go further you have apps like greenify and my personal fav juice defender that can be used without root and so many other things.
There's other factors too that does make a difference like update cycle and harder issues and more phones etc that also leads people to the point of just sticking to stock but there are the petiole here that just like to tinker no matter what skill level you're at.
One last thing I would put out there is that us who are users of these mods wouldn't it be different if you were the ones creating them?
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And you can theme the icons...
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Stock rooted and slighty OCed is my way....i juat got this phone about a week ago. Im coming from the s3...but anyways, i was scrolling looking qt alk the roms, is there one thats pure stock but rooted and 100% debloated??? I used to use a root uninstaller, but none seem to work on this device?? Im kinda late to the s4 so im sure its been discussed and fixed.. but anyways.. also looks like stock kernal is the smoothest and fastest too.... and with my s3 that wasent the case... but anyways...is there a nice stock debloated FLAWLESS rom u guys recomend? At the moment im using this INTRISIC rom....pretty good...about as close as im going to get to stock debloated..
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First and foremost the phone should perform basic phone functions flawlessly without significant lag such as making a phone call, sending text messages and web surfing. Could add GPS mapping to that list as it seems germane and pervasive.
Part of ROM fatigue is just the lack of this or perhaps the eternal search for it. Perhaps kit kat changes this.
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First and foremost the phone should perform basic phone functions flawlessly without significant lag such as making a phone call, sending text messages and web surfing. Could add GPS mapping to that list as it seems germane and pervasive.
Part of ROM fatigue is just the lack of this or perhaps the eternal search for it. Perhaps kit kat changes this.
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My personal opinion is that any notion of "lag" in Android ceased to be a relevant discussion at least a year ago. Yes, you might still get the odd animation stutter here and there, but it's nothing that affects the actual usability of the phone.
As far as overclocking goes, 4 CPU cores at 1.9GHz seems pretty sufficient to me, but I understand that there will always be those who like to push their phones. I just feel like the difference is only noticeable in benchmark scores.
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testinguser said:
First and foremost the phone should perform basic phone functions flawlessly without significant lag such as making a phone call, sending text messages and web surfing. Could add GPS mapping to that list as it seems germane and pervasive.
Part of ROM fatigue is just the lack of this or perhaps the eternal search for it. Perhaps kit kat changes this.
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I sort this as well as my previous view. The current versions of android has caught up to everything modding was mainly used for. There isn't lag anymore, you get great battery, you also have a couple theme customization as well too. The point is there's a slow in the upward trend to mod.
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At the risk of annoying much of the community, CM= overrated. Had every galaxy s series phone and have yet to see it fully functional. They start working on the next version before the previous one is done and honestly, I'll have a new phone before it's finished every time.
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Soooo true
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