Charge off USB possible ?? - Nook Color General

Is there any way to get the NC to charge off the USB port hooked to a PC and not the wall charger ?? Is it possible at all ?

amen to that. Its stoopid that you cant use a microusb for charging. I only have 50 of em. I know the vable is special but they should have made it a different design to not lead us on!

My NC charges just fine with a standard micro USB cable connected to either a wall charger or PC.
It displays "Not charging" but it does in fact charge.... however, it takes a lot longer than with the provided cable and wall-charger.
The socket on the NC has connectors for both standard USB and their proprietary stuff.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is the same saga that iPad users went through. The device requires 2 amps to charge correctly, but a standard usb port only offers 500 milliamps or 1/4 of the required dosage. So while I havent tested it myself, it sounds feasible that the nook is charging, however its nowhere near the required amperage to show the charging icon on the device.

It sure does take a long time on a computer. Over night isn't enough. Even my Ipad charger takes for ever on the NC.

Charges just fine
Mine charges just fine, as long as I use the nook cable that came with it. I plugged it in to the PC this morning and it was only about 70% charged. I don't know how long it took, but when I grabbed it a few moments ago, the n was green and it was fully charged.

Mine charges from ~30% to 100% in about 3 hrs, via USB to a computer. I always make sure I use task killer to kill most processes before charging. It makes a huge difference.

after root I have been able to charge from usb. btw, despite the message below, this reply is sent from my NC via xda app.
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Been charging it from USB since day 1. As luck would have it, I forgot the wall plug at my friend's parents house, some 80 miles away... I was spending thanksgiving there when I got the NC. So yes, charging works from the computer, but as they said, it's slower. Not really a big deal though, I do this crazy thing at night called sleeping, during which I dont have much use for the NC, so it sits next to my bed, charging off of the laptop. And the cool thing is that it'll continue to charge even after my laptop goes into sleep mode.

isolated_epidemic said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is the same saga that iPad users went through. The device requires 2 amps to charge correctly, but a standard usb port only offers 500 milliamps or 1/4 of the required dosage. So while I havent tested it myself, it sounds feasible that the nook is charging, however its nowhere near the required amperage to show the charging icon on the device.
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the NC only has a 1530mah battery, which should not require 2A to charge. my samsung captivate has a 1500mah battery, and charges fine from USB. the NC should be able to charge from USB fine, but it's strange that it only does so very slowly.

I thought the NC had a 4,000mah battery

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I thought the NC had a 4,000mah battery
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i saw a replacement nookcolor battery at best buy that said 1530mah, but on nookdevs it does say 4000mah. weird. nooksdevs is probably right. best buy probably mislabeled that battery i saw.

Ben74 said:
i saw a replacement nookcolor battery at best buy that said 1530mah, but on nookdevs it does say 4000mah. weird. nooksdevs is probably right. best buy probably mislabeled that battery i saw.
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You probably saw a replacement original nook battery. If you saw some of the teardown photos (mine), it's pretty obvious that this battery isn't user-replaceable. Ok, maybe my pictures aren't the best, but take my word for it. That block outlined in black in the fourth photo is the battery and is bigger than your entire captivate

A "Y" shaped USB cable with two male type "A" connectors that is plugged into two USB ports may charge the NC while avoiding the "Not Charging" message. However, since the overcharging / monitoring circuitry is external to the unit it may not be wise. It very well could decrease the lifespan of the battery and without the ability to easily replace it, I wouldn't try it myself.

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[what the?] Charging through usb cable?

After scanning through the nookcolor instrction manual, i noticed that the Nookcolor is NOT supposed to charge through the usb plug if connected to a computer...
My does however and once the nook is fully charged, the "nook light" goes green just as it does when plugged into the wall AND moving files is no longer possible.
This is not really a problem as my nook usually has a permanent 67% battery power, but just out of curiosity...
Has anyone else noticed this?
I did not go to 100% so can not say about the moving files, however, changes with USB...did not see if it did before I rooted...as rooting was the 1st thing I did...
Very nice surprise to see USB changing as the non-replaceable battery (Apple kind-of drag) and ONLY B&N charger had me thinking about returning...Now with only the non-replacing battery the only issue and I have a rooted android tab/e-reader I will kept it.
Also I was one of the lucky 25% discount (paid $184 plus tax) THAT WORKED. When I tried the next day to get a 2nd one the store manager said Corp sent a message the 25% was no longer valid.
Ahhh so it happens to other people too...
Anyway, 184 dollars is dirt cheap! i live in australia so i had to get mine of ebay (bn don't ship down here) so it was $290 + $50 for express shipping from US for a grand total of 340 smackeroos! All i can say is thank god for the current US to Au exchange rates.
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The Nook will charge from ANY source, it just doesn't show a light on the cable unless it's charging from the included charger. My assumption for this is that it doesn't show charging unless the current is HIGH, and the included charger is rated for 1900mAh. 4 times what a normal USB port provides. Even double what a normal phone charger provides.
So it doesn't show it's charging, but in fact it will. I've left mine plugged into my USB here at the computer messing with adb and such on and off, watching logcat etc and it slowly charges.
Yes but mine does have a light on the cable and once the power reaches 100% the ability to move files is lost and thecable light goes green, just like it does when plugged into the wall...
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How long does it take to charge via USB? I feel like when my nook is plugged in with USB that battery life is maintained but a full charge would take a long time. I'm around a computer most of the day so charging via USB is much easier than a wall outlet.
The NC charger provides about 4 times the curent of a standard USB port, so it should take about 4 times as long to charge from USB as compared to the charger.

Charging issue?

Here's a weird one.
I plugged my NC in to charge this morning. It was just fine and then all of a sudden, the green light turned off and now the NC is no longer charging even though the battery is only at 59% .
What gives? Anyone else notice this?
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eyecrispy said:
Here's a weird one.
I plugged my NC in to charge this morning. It was just fine and then all of a sudden, the green light turned off and now the NC is no longer charging even though the battery is only at 59% .
What gives? Anyone else notice this?
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Have not experienced anything like that. If I did though, I would reboot and see if that changes anything.
Good luck.
Try a reboot. I have noticed the last couple of days that my NC charges, but the status on the battery is not updated until a reboot. I have not figured out why this is happening yet. . .
I will try. The thing is, when i connect to the laptop via usb, it no longer recognizes my device as a drive. My macbook says it's drawing too much power and disbles the port. I'm wondering if they're related? I guess the NC charger requires more juice .......
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eyecrispy said:
I will try. The thing is, when i connect to the laptop via usb, it no longer recognizes my device as a drive. My macbook says it's drawing too much power and disbles the port. I'm wondering if they're related? I guess the NC charger requires more juice .......
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I have two Win7 laptops and one of them no longer recognizes my NC as a drive either. The other one sees it as the Nook Color and as two drives. It's strange. I have not tried to find out why yet as there are only so many issues I can worry about at one time.
You know. . . I have noticed my problem just in thelast three days, and I have not tried it on a USB port in that time. Let us know if a full restart fixes your problem. It does sound a little different from mine.
I had the same problem till I started doing the following:
Make sure Nook is completely powered off.
Plug in USB cable, Nook boots up on it's on.
Turn off WIFI.
Unplug USB from Nook and then plug USB cable back in.
Now: Nook charges correctly in CHARGE mode:
It seems it takes unplugging 2X to get it into charge mode. You will see the light turn amber on the cable and the status of the Nook will be charging. The battery icon will show as well.
Well, that's annoying. Will i have to do that every time?
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So rebooted the NC last night and plugged it in to charge. The light was orange and device showed it was charging when i went to bed. I just got up and the light is no longer on and battery only charged to 90% overnight. What gives? Is there somthing faulty?
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And i just rebooted again and the NC still not recognizing the charger.
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Yet another update --- I finally got the NC to start charging again. Now the light on the cable turned green and the battery is only at 97%. Isn't it supposed to stay orange until the battery is fully charged?
Never had any problem charging mine at all... I plug it in typically towards the end of the second day, or when it gets much below 40%.. I always (intentionally) charge it using the Nook Charger and Nook Cable, any other combo will only charge it slowly, probably around 10%/hr at most IF the NC is standby/screen off.
As for how far it charges until it says it's done... Some Android phones stop showing "charging" at 90% but continue to slowly charge to 100%, some it's higher... And when it hits full it TURNS OFF THE CHARGER until it drops below the threshold again. This is how charging LiIon is done. I personally haven't paid any attention to how the NC charges, as it "just works" for me.
I'm wondering if it's something wrong either with my cable or my actual NC. Ugh. I don't want to return for another unit.
Bump. Anyone else seeing these charging issues? Should I take this back?
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khaytsus said:
Never had any problem charging mine at all... I plug it in typically towards the end of the second day, or when it gets much below 40%.. I always (intentionally) charge it using the Nook Charger and Nook Cable, any other combo will only charge it slowly, probably around 10%/hr at most IF the NC is standby/screen off.
As for how far it charges until it says it's done... Some Android phones stop showing "charging" at 90% but continue to slowly charge to 100%, some it's higher... And when it hits full it TURNS OFF THE CHARGER until it drops below the threshold again. This is how charging LiIon is done. I personally haven't paid any attention to how the NC charges, as it "just works" for me.
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Not sure how relevant it is, but "slow charging" will not charge device very quickly, buti does supplement battery life quite nicely. since open wifi is my only internet source atm, I use an fm tranmitter with a usb port to listen to pandora in my car without draining battery at all. actually slowly charges if screen is off.
I'm just trying to figure out if there is something wrong with my NC or it's charger.
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Dunno, but I finally broke down and bought a NC yesterday morning.
Had a b!tch of a time inserting the mini-USB cable, which presumably should not be the case. Managed to get it charged. Mine came OOB w/a 98% charge!
Then stupidly I removed the cable, but wanted to sideload a book shortly afterwards via Calibre and again had a b!tch of a time getting the mini-USB cable inserted. (Only mini-USB device that I have, so no other cable to compare with.)
Can't even get it to insert this morning, so I'm giving up for now and back this one goes.
Not real impressed so far with the build quality of a $250 device. Arguably OOB both the Pandigital Novel and Augen Gentouch were better. To make matters worse it doesn't even come close to the gTab's build quality either, which I was expecting it to be closer to.
Funny note in the manual that I noticed while browsing through it(checking to see if they maybe had a sneaky trick/lock to insert/remove mini-USB), and found a line:
"do NOT turn off NC while charging"?!
I usually turn off my devices while charging as they'll charge a bit more quickly, typically...
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I'm just trying to figure out if there is something wrong with my NC or it's charger.
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I would suggest that rather than relying on the battery percentages, start looking at the actual mV readings of the Spare Parts/Battery Information. I say this because I've seen android have fits trying to give accurate battery percentage readings. I'll put mine on the wall charger now and post the max mV level I can reach. Perhaps others can as well?
Ok I just put my NC on charge and the battery was reading 13% and showing a 3601mV reading.
My replacement NC, whose USB/charge cable inserts MUCH more easily that #1's did, came OOB @ 98% too, but #2 took FOREVER to charge to green... touch screen on this one is supersensitive as well... now to check for dead pixels, hot pixels, and chipped screen...
Getting tired of going to B&N, and their CS wasn't exactly wonderful as they were going to try telling me that #1's cable/USB port were fine and dandy until I made him check that the LED wasn't coming on & that the demo unit inserted more readily and further into the socket, just like #2 did which I checked right at the register but didn't linger to check for dead pixels, etc. as I was holding up the checkout line(@ 9a?!).
I went to look at one a few weeks ago too at that same store, and the woman at the Nook kiosk wasn't very interested selling. (She'd rather continue reading her NC than trying to sell one.)
#2 also came upside down in the box, i.e. the tab on the protective plastic to pull out the NC was at the end that doesn't open...
B&N needs some serious QA/CS/sales training... esp. with their crap return policy... well 13d to shake down and see if anything else falls off...

micro usb cable

I am using the Nook color wall charger, but left my cable at work. my nook was dead, i plugged in using a standard micro usb and the wall charger, it says wait 15 minutes, which makes me believe it is charging it. Let me go check...still says that. Do you think it will charge? I was able to transfer files with the micro usb cable to my SD card on the nook, but it wont charge it?
It may trickle charge on a non-OEM Nook Color cable (a standard micro-USB), so it would probably require charging overnight at the very least to get a near full charge once again, and certainly longer than 15 mins to get it back to usable from a low charge state.
Depends on the output of the charger, but youd likely be looking at anywhere from 4 to 8 gours for a full charge...
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i think i can confirm standard micro usb does not charge this thing, even with the nook wall charger. I had it plugged in from being dead for about an hour and it never came on. Thankfully i found the real charger and am back in business.
It will trickle charge for me with the nook cable hooked up to my computer, but I thought this issue was already covered and others said it would charge with a regular usb cable (again on the computer not via the adapter). Is this not the case? I hate to think I'm reliant on the nook's usb cable and can't charge at a friends.
I have charged my NC with the cable from a cell phone. It takes a LOT longer and in fact, doesn't seem to keep up with even moderate use: wifi and web browsing and battery will slowly continue to go down. Just not AS slowly as being unplugged.
But it does charge.
Hopefully someone will find a way to make the damn thing charge without verifying that it's using a Nook cable.
jve34 said:
i think i can confirm standard micro usb does not charge this thing, even with the nook wall charger. I had it plugged in from being dead for about an hour and it never came on. Thankfully i found the real charger and am back in business.
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False, it does charge. I assume at .5A, but it's possible it's lower. Haven't looked.
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Hopefully someone will find a way to make the damn thing charge without verifying that it's using a Nook cable.
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Plug it into any USB source using any cable providing 500mA, it will charge. It won't SHOW it is charging, as it doesn't appear to show charging unless it's on the fast 1.9Ah speed the Nook charger + special Nook cable provides. However, if it's idle enough the thing does charge.
Sitting on my desk playing with adb one day plugged into my workstation it charged 20% in a little over 2 hours. Of course that's pretty slow, but consider this is a 4.0Ah battery, you cannot compare to your phone charge times unless you multiply by 2.5 to 3!
So 20% over 2 hours would be 50-60% over 2 hours on a typical Android phone battery.
you say it charges, but leaving it plugged in from being dead to the Nook wall charger but to a standard USB did not charge it at all. No power
I have no doubt that the nook cable, plugged into a PC will charge it. It is the cable that is different.
Here are the ways that I have verified that my Nook Color wil charge:
NC wall charger/NC usb cable- best and fastest
NC wall charger/Droid usb cable (standard) - charges slowly
other USB wall charger/either usb cable- charges slowly
computer USB/NC usb cable- charges slowly
computer USB/other usb cable- charges slowly
What I have NOT done is completely drain the battery and test.
My guess is this: it charges slowly without a high rating charger and the special NC cable and when it is dead it takes a LONG time to get enough juice to boot.
Another possibility is that device variance has kicked in and while most people seem to get at least a trickle charge out of any cable/charge source we have, other units simply will not.
that is kind of what i was thinking, the fact that it was dead was not enough to even charge it properly where as if it had kind of been charged then maybe it would be more noticable that it was charging.
jve34 said:
you say it charges, but leaving it plugged in from being dead to the Nook wall charger but to a standard USB did not charge it at all. No power
I have no doubt that the nook cable, plugged into a PC will charge it. It is the cable that is different.
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It charges no matter what cable or charger as long as it's providing reasonable current. Most USB ports and non-fast chargers provide 500mAh.
If it's dead I don't know, I don't do that to LiIon batteries.

[Q] Charging the Nook

Okay, so here is the story, I am without the OEM Nook charger (cable) and it seems that no other charger will charge it, I splurged on the Nook in the first place therefore not having the funds to buy another cable. So what I am asking, is, does anyone else know anyway to charge it?
I got a generic retractable microUSB cable. Charges fine from a computer (albeit more slowly than with the Nook charger). Interestingly, it charges super-fast when plugged into a powered USB hub.
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I got a generic retractable microUSB cable. Charges fine from a computer (albeit more slowly than with the Nook charger). Interestingly, it charges super-fast when plugged into a powered USB hub.
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You can charge from a computer? How? I have battery stats pulled up and I watch it as I plug it in, It mounts, but no charging
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You can charge from a computer? How? I have battery stats pulled up and I watch it as I plug it in, It mounts, but no charging
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It is indeed charging when you have it connected to the computer although the amperage isn't great enough to trigger the Nook into a charging state. Keep it there for an hour or so and you'll notice a difference in the battery level.
I would turn off the auto mount of storage when charging from a computer. I charge my nook using USB every day at the office.
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I got a generic retractable microUSB cable. Charges fine from a computer (albeit more slowly than with the Nook charger). Interestingly, it charges super-fast when plugged into a powered USB hub.
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No it doesn't, that's a bug. At least if it's what I've seen.... My NC will sometimes to from say 70% to 100% nearly instantly when plugged into the computer. But it doesn't happen every time.. I haven't tried to figure out what makes it happen, but could be related to repeated plugs of the NC to the computer or something, as I was farking around with disabling/enablng automount when I last noticed it happen.
Later it'll start dropping like crazy and recover the "incorrect" charge status back to normal, like 5% drop in seconds several times in an hour is what I have seen it do in the past.
Okay, so if I leave it plugged into the computer, with auto mounting off, it will charge?
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Okay, so if I leave it plugged into the computer, with auto mounting off, it will charge?
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Mine does, I started the day @ 75% a few hours later it was fully charged.
I had same problem, bought nc used and got wrong cable
Used nook wall chager with wrong cable and got " not charging" but i left it overnight, next day it still showed same amount of battery it had night before so i thought it didny charge.
Went to buy nc charher $25!!! Ouch. Plugged it in and battery percentage went from 10% to 99% in 1 second
My theory is that a regular usb does charge it but the nook wont recognize it, but the battery is charged
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sp1kez said:
I had same problem, bought nc used and got wrong cable
Used nook wall chager with wrong cable and got " not charging" but i left it overnight, next day it still showed same amount of battery it had night before so i thought it didny charge.
Went to buy nc charher $25!!! Ouch. Plugged it in and battery percentage went from 10% to 99% in 1 second
My theory is that a regular usb does charge it but the nook wont recognize it, but the battery is charged
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Well, what you describe is not what I've seen.. What I have seen is that it will charge from ANY source, although it does NOT show it on the status bar or in the Settings, but if you watch the charge percentage (I use Battery Snap) you'll see it charging, assuming there isn't much of a load on the NC. As far as I know, it charges at 500mAh unless it has the NC Cable + Charger plugged in.
What I've also seen is that sometimes the charge jumps to 100% for seemingly no reason when plugged into my PC. Doesn't happen all of the time, but it's not charging fast, and it's not a "recognition" thing, it's completely false. If it jumps from 70% to 100%, it's still only 70% charged. It'll "discharge" really fast later, presumably as the system does whatever it does to determine battery charge (battery voltage etc).

[Q] Recharge via Computer USB Port?

I got the 16GB Touchpad few days ago and since i got the one with an american charger i cant charge it yet (till i get the traveler kit).
My actual problem is that it doesn't charge through the USB port too. I left it for like 24-30 hours charging through the USB port (with the cable that came with the touchpad) and when i try to turn it on, it shows me an icon of an empty battery.
Is my usb cable problematic or it just that the touchpad cant charge through the usb port from a PC?
ps: every time i plug the usb it get a message telling "to reliably charge please use the charger and cable that came with this device"
I have the same issue with a 32 GB one. I received it brand new, factory sealed today and it is going back to HP. I called HP, the cable is fine, works with my HTC phone, it's the USB port on the Touchpad, it's loose and losses connection. HP is sending a box with prepaid shipping label and doing a warranty repair.
I really love the Touchpad and I am a bit disappointed with receiving a new device with a loose USB port. HP has great support and I can't wait until I get it back.
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Unfortunately thats not an option for me (returning it to touchpad), since i bought it from Ebay (thats the only way possible for me to buy a touchpad from my country).
You had the same issue with the charger plugged in the usb cable as well?
What sort of power source do you use, if not the charger.
I've tried to use a computer, but it does not look like it's charging, but data transfer work.
I tried with an iphone charger, that sort of work. It complains about not getting enough power (iphone charger is 5,0V while the hp charger is 5,2V)
Bottom line. Use the original charger, just buy an us adapter. It works great.
There is another thread here sonewere discussing chargers for non US owners.
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Jon (aka nle) said:
What sort of power source do you use, if not the charger.
I've tried to use a computer, but it does not look like it's charging, but data transfer work.
I tried with an iphone charger, that sort of work. It complains about not getting enough power (iphone charger is 5,0V while the hp charger is 5,2V)
Bottom line. Use the original charger, just buy an us adapter. It works great.
There is another thread here sonewere discussing chargers for non US owners.
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Im trying to charge it through my PC using the original cable that was in the box (tried it in a USB 2.0 port) and im getting the 'try a reliable recharging source like the USB cable and the charger that came with your touchpad'.
I also tried charging it with a 5.0V 200mA phone charger but it didnt work either.
Shouldnt it charge even a bit with the cable? im trying to charge it for 2 days now
Varemenos said:
Unfortunately thats not an option for me (returning it to touchpad), since i bought it from Ebay (thats the only way possible for me to buy a touchpad from my country).
You had the same issue with the charger plugged in the usb cable as well?
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Yes, tried the wall charger, then pc, a different usb cable, all had the same result. When I plugged in I could feel the USB port loose in the Touchpad itself, it had a bit of play and if I played gently on it, it would begin to charge or connect to the pc. When i let go, it disconnected from my pc and then gave me the charging error message. I purchased mine from an e bay store and it has a warranty for 1 year.
I would be happy to help you with yours, if you want to ship it to the US, it has a warranty from the factory. Pm me if you'd like help. I am certain that shipping to and.from US could be costly but I am willing to help.
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Mine will only will charge from official HP chargers. This is much like my old iPhone 3g before all the generic manufacturers caught up. I suspect that the voltage and amp requirements are tighter than the USB specification, so it will be a crap shoot if you use non HP chargers.
With that said, HP has 30% off all touchpad accessories right now. Combine it with the cupon SAVE15HP
-W
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wpp105 said:
With that said, HP has 30% off all touchpad accessories right now. Combine it with the cupon SAVE15HP
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Ya unfortunatelly i could order anything since i dont live in the US/UK regions
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Ya unfortunatelly i could order anything since i dont live in the US/UK regions
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Don't worry over that, I can get what you need and ship it to you.
Also, in speaking to HP, any USB charger in the US works, they're considered universal.
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you cant charge the touchpad using a computers usb ports. it doesnt draw enough power. the voltage of the charger doesnt really matter, it needs at least 2 amps or it wont charge the touchpad. cell phone chargers usually only draw 1 amp or less and usb ports only .5 amps.
cachookaman said:
you cant charge the touchpad using a computers usb ports. it doesnt draw enough power. the voltage of the charger doesnt really matter, it needs at least 2 amps or it wont charge the touchpad. cell phone chargers usually only draw 1 amp or less and usb ports only .5 amps.
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That is absolutely not the case.
I have only charged mine once with the AC-USB thing and I have been using it since I got it the first day of the sale. I use mine all day long and only charge it occasionally via USB to PC connection. I use the original cable from HP and another one from my Samsung Mythic (work and home).
The message that you get when you plug it in is misleading but normal on a stock TP. However there is a patch in PreWare that changes it to just default to charge and not bug you. Anyone who intends to use this thing at all with WebOS needs to get PreWare installed. In fact, some time spent at precentral.net would benefit any new owners. You will learn A LOT more about these little jewels. I spent a few hours reading stickies and interesting threads and learned a great deal.
If it is really plugged in (and you will know because your PC will tell you) and you get no charge, you have a problem. It should charge on or off while plugged in - mine does.
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That is absolutely not the case.
I have only charged mine once with the AC-USB thing and I have been using it since I got it the first day of the sale. I use mine all day long and only charge it occasionally via USB to PC connection. I use the original cable from HP and another one from my Samsung Mythic (work and home).
The message that you get when you plug it in is misleading but normal on a stock TP. However there is a patch in PreWare that changes it to just default to charge and not bug you. Anyone who intends to use this thing at all with WebOS needs to get PreWare installed. In fact, some time spent at precentral.net would benefit any new owners. You will learn A LOT more about these little jewels. I spent a few hours reading stickies and interesting threads and learned a great deal.
If it is really plugged in (and you will know because your PC will tell you) and you get no charge, you have a problem. It should charge on or off while plugged in - mine does.
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The problem is, its plugged, i get the warning but its not charging at all (while the touchpad is turned out cause its out of battery the past 2 days).
Varemenos said:
The problem is, its plugged, i get the warning but its not charging at all (while the touchpad is turned out cause its out of battery the past 2 days).
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Now to be completely honest - the first charge I made out of the box was with the AC adapter and I left it in overnight like I had been told.
But since then I have never used the AC plug and I have let it get down to about 20% or so but no lower.
It very well may be that from a DEAD state, it requires the extra amps to jump start it, but as long as you have that initial charge it is covered by the lower amperage of the direct USB-to-PC connection. I'm guessing it came with a fair charge and you burned through it without ever plugging it in to the USB.
Bear in mind that not ALL USB ports on a PC are powered the same either. Older USB 1.0 and 1.1 are crap for power. Front or top-mount ones also may not have as much juice as the ones in the back directly off the motherboard. Look at portable hard drives, some come with a double-header cable to use two low-powered ports. I know my top-mount ones will not power my 1TB 2.5-inch drive, but the ones in the back do.
However, I am really surprised you can't pick up a standard plug in USB adapter for your country for a few dollars (equivalent) for wall. Jeez they sell them at the dollar stores here now. I don't know if a car adapter would output enough to do it but that is another idea. If you can get one, you should be able to bring it back easily enough. The 2 amp adapter does charge a lot faster.
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LOL, I am really in a rare mood as this question has bugged me a little. So I decided to find some straight poop. Here is the best description I have seen anywhere.
http://www.maxim-ic.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/3241
If you don't want to read it, the gist (as I understand it) is:
At 5V, the USB ports in a PC have to be able to source (provide) at least 500 mA (.5 AMP). However, depending on how your motherboard is provisioned (MOSFETs and diodes) that is limited/controlled.
The spec though, does allow as much as 5A to be provided. In fact, 2A is not uncommon if the other ports are not loaded.
So you could try unplugging all your other USB stuff or try another computer's USB ports.
Varemenos said:
Im trying to charge it through my PC using the original cable that was in the box (tried it in a USB 2.0 port) and im getting the 'try a reliable recharging source like the USB cable and the charger that came with your touchpad'.
I also tried charging it with a 5.0V 200mA phone charger but it didnt work either.
Shouldnt it charge even a bit with the cable? im trying to charge it for 2 days now
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Given that the HP charger has a 2A output, odds are that anything much below around 500mA isn't going to charge the device, or at least not at a rate that'll offset the drain while it's running.
The USB ports on laptops often won't supply enough current, particularly if there's other devices on the same bus. If you plug it into a powered USB hub then you should be in business as they should supply more like around 1A generally.
My Touchpad charges from my laptop USB port, however it is slow. I am getting about 8 - 10% charge per hour. The screen needs to be off though, otherwise there is no noticable charging happening.
Mine is not charging with USB laptop at all. Need to use wall charger
I have XRON VB2.8 on my two touchpads and both show battery charging symbol when they are connected to computer via USB and yes the they charge very slow.
FYI, can't remember if WebOS / Govnah tells you what the current amps being used is, but if you are on Android tools like Elixir 2 tell you how many amps you are either discharging (-) or charging (+). So depending on what you are using (wifi, bluetooth, # of widgets, running applications, screen brightness, overclocking, underclocking, etc.) YMMV on whether or not you can charge via usb connected to your computer.
So if you are discharging at a rate of -750 mA connecting to a usb port on your computer will still have you discharging at a rate of -250:
Code:
[COLOR="Red"]-750 mA[/COLOR] + 500 mA = [COLOR="Red"]-250 mA[/COLOR]
mine charges in the usb port, but only if I turn off the screen or turn off the touchpad completely. my ports only provide 500mA, and with the screen off, the touchpad draws about 50mA, so it can charge at about 450mA. With the screen on, it draws about 760mA, so even when it's plugged in the USB, it is discharging at a rate of about (760-500=260mA).

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