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Apps2SD noobish help

Sprint HTC Hero (Non-Google Branded)
Fresh Rom 1.0 with De-Fresh and Nexus One Boot screen
Recovery 1.5.2
16GB SD Card
So this is what i know.
1) I already know that Fresh 1.0 has A2SD support built within it.
2) I know to go to Recovery and use the format SD (I used these settings)
Swap:516, Ext3:516, Fat32: Rest ammount
3) Did this once before and it seemed that all my apps were on SD card (when i took it out and reboot, all my apps were gone. When i put it back in then reboot they all back on phone)
What i need to know.
1) How do i choose which apps/games to transfer over to SD card.
2) Where are they on my SD card? (Could not see it when i checked the SD card)
3) When you do this are all of the apps off of the phone memory? or are the apps still able to stay on phone.
What i essentially want to do.
1) i just want to be able to easily use A2SD to backup and easily transfer my apps/games back and fourth if i need to.
Any usable help would be greatly appreciated ^^ thanks.

frostrunner said:
Sprint HTC Hero (Non-Google Branded)
Fresh Rom 1.0 with De-Fresh and Nexus One Boot screen
Recovery 1.5.2
16GB SD Card
So this is what i know.
1) I already know that Fresh 1.0 has A2SD support built within it.
2) I know to go to Recovery and use the format SD (I used these settings)
Swap:516, Ext3:516, Fat32: Rest ammount
3) Did this once before and it seemed that all my apps were on SD card (when i took it out and reboot, all my apps were gone. When i put it back in then reboot they all back on phone)
What i need to know.
1) How do i choose which apps/games to transfer over to SD card.
2) Where are they on my SD card? (Could not see it when i checked the SD card)
3) When you do this are all of the apps off of the phone memory? or are the apps still able to stay on phone.
What i essentially want to do.
1) i just want to be able to easily use A2SD to backup and easily transfer my apps/games back and fourth if i need to.
Any usable help would be greatly appreciated ^^ thanks.
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If someone has better info please correct me if I'm wrong
1. When you install a ROM with apps2sd, as long as you have your SD card formated properly everything except for stock roms are transfered. If they were not, uninstall and install in the market and should go to SD card.
2. On fresh rom I noticed (atleast for me) that the app and app-private folders were in /system/sd/
3. All of your downloaded apps will be on your SD card. Stock apps (sprint apps and what came with the phone etc.) will still be on the phone's memory.
I use ES File Explorer and just copy the app and app-private folders when i want to backup all my downloaded apps. Pretty easy app to use and supports root.

frostrunner said:
1) How do i choose which apps/games to transfer over to SD card.
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You don't. If it's in /data, it gets moved. This means that applications that come with the phone, which are in /system, do not get moved. The symlink solution means that you cannot easily choose applications to leave on the phone.
2) Where are they on my SD card? (Could not see it when i checked the SD card)
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Correct. They are on the EXT partition you created, oddly enough just like the documentation says. You cannot see this partition. If you are so inclined, you can adb into the phone and see it mounted on /system/sd.
3) When you do this are all of the apps off of the phone memory? or are the apps still able to stay on phone.
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Applications shipped with the phone stay on the phone. Data directories created by downloaded applications stay on the phone. You will still see space on the phone being used.
What i essentially want to do.
1) i just want to be able to easily use A2SD to backup and easily transfer my apps/games back and fourth if i need to.
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A2SD has nothing to do with a backup solution and is not necessary for you to back anything up. Pick one of the umpteen backup applications available in the Market and go to town.

Fixing "Unknown reason 18" market error

So I was getting unknown reason 18 error when trying to install certain apps from the market.
I've googled and search the forum. The best answer I could get was to wipe and reinstall the ROM, which I did not want to do.
Then I checked the logs and figured out the problem was that all those apps that would fail were trying to install on SD card by default.
The solution: move all the apps back to phone, put your microSD into a card reader and delete .android_secure folder. That's it!

didn't work for me

Worked
That worked for me. For ever I could not update Sky map. When I could not install Angry Birds I went "searching".
Thank you for the fix.

I don't think it'll work for me either.
None of my apps are on my SD. I know this because I can't even do that. When I try to transfer an app to sd it the progress bar just hangs there (doesn't move it just shows the striped pattern)

It worked!
Hey ho, it worked!! Finally the nagging issue is resolved (for me)

I can't find that folder/file! :S

.android_secure is hidden, you need to enable showing hidden files on your file manager. I use ES File Manager and it has such feature.

...or, you can just make sure your app is installed on the phone, then unmount the SD before updating.
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Holy crap! It worked for me. I didn't have anything installed on the SD card either.

when your market chache is moved to the SD then move it back to the internal memory and clear the market data...

Worked for me... Thanks a lot...

i've had this error for quite some time - i realized i need to move the app back to phone in order to update it and then move it back to SD card.
Will try this method!
Thanks for posting

thank god this!!!!! work i'm was getting piss off at is unknown 18 **** it was hunting me in my dreams THANKYOU

Please, I have the same problem but I haven't space in my phone to return the SD apps. Is there another way to solve this?

Simple FIX
Just take out the sd card, install whatever is giving you an error, then pop the sd card back in. No fuss no muss!

Nice SIMPLE solution!
Thank you. Didn't involve rooting the phone, installing adb, saying magic mantras etc. etc.

Thanks
Karolis said:
So I was getting unknown reason 18 error when trying to install certain apps from the market.
I've googled and search the forum. The best answer I could get was to wipe and reinstall the ROM, which I did not want to do.
Then I checked the logs and figured out the problem was that all those apps that would fail were trying to install on SD card by default.
The solution: move all the apps back to phone, put your microSD into a card reader and delete .android_secure folder. That's it!
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Exellent amigo, now every think is perfect, now i can install all my apps, thank again.

Karolis said:
So I was getting unknown reason 18 error when trying to install certain apps from the market.
I've googled and search the forum. The best answer I could get was to wipe and reinstall the ROM, which I did not want to do.
Then I checked the logs and figured out the problem was that all those apps that would fail were trying to install on SD card by default.
The solution: move all the apps back to phone, put your microSD into a card reader and delete .android_secure folder. That's it!
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threepwood960 said:
Please, I have the same problem but I haven't space in my phone to return the SD apps. Is there another way to solve this?
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Ok, so I figured out a solution that is hopefully "better" and "quicker" for all. Simply connect your phone to your computer (as USB Mass storage), browse to the folder '.android_secure' (make sure you can view hidden files/folders in windows) and delete the file 'smdl2tmp1.asec' (I just renamed it 'smdl2tmp1.asec.delete' just in case it didn't work).
Problem solved! Everything updates just fine now and I didn't have to move any apps back from the SD card to the phone.

ultratech23 said:
Just take out the sd card, install whatever is giving you an error, then pop the sd card back in. No fuss no muss!
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Yea...just this guys.
zero need to delete, move, etc.

Just unmount the SD, instead of taking it out...
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Expertise please HELP-SOLVED-

GTP1000 Rooted I'm using Install Manager, Android Assistant, Quick application Manager and Root explorer to shift all my application from the phone to the SD card unfortunately I figured out that I have only 200 MB remaining in my phone memory ! Only 4 programs installed on there as per of the previouse listed applications and the remaining on the SD card as it shows I start searching to figure out the problem using root explorer I found the root
Phone Memory/mnt/asec/secure/asec - 990 MB so I tried to move it to the SD card but once moved it will return back again to the same path!! Even if I tried to delete it will remain the same! also I found another root phone/mnt/asec -670 MB which has almost the same applications by all means using root explorer I cut& paste the first root to the SD card and reboot then only the installed programs in phone works and the other application icons disappeared I was shocked cause even trying to backup my mistake was a hectic work, by all means its again as it was and still facing the same problem any help
Solution
After fed up of finding any solution I start clear all the programs data manually at least to preserve some space and while clearing my phone explorer application data I shocked it was loaded with 1.53 GB!!!!! Don’t know where it came from!!! But finally my sole been relieved thanks for all the assistant been given by every one answered my query

Ok a few issues here....
1) You should be asking this in the Q&A forum, not the Dev forum, it has nothing to do with development
2) You don't need four third party apps to move your apps to sdcard. Apps2SD is a function of the android system. You can simply go into Settings->Manage Apps and then go into whatever app you want to move and press the button that says "Move to SD Card"
3) You really shouldn't be rooting around your phone deleting or moving stuff without a thorough understanding of Linux and Android.../mnt/asec/secure/asec is a symlink to .android_secure on your sdcard. Those files were not actually on your internal memory, just links to files on your sdcard.
4) Android will manage your internal memory as necessary...you really don't need to be worried about having only 200mb free. Once you run out it will start installing apps to your sdcard on its own.
At this point I think you're pretty fubar and will have to reinstall the apps then move them to SD if you so choose.

Dear thanks a lot for you respond also thanks to direct me to the proper channel to post my inquiry in, also thanks a lot for the advices and for the explanation but one more concern killing me, why once trying to install new application an red SD card icons appears on the tab upper left corner with memory full window listing that internal device memory is nearly full delete/uninstall some applications or data and try again! Any help

Internal Memory full
You must have a ton of data on your internal SD and that is why the icon appeared. Also, some apps cannot be moved to the external SD. I would go into your applications and see what is vital and what you can delete. Keep the internal SD as light as possible. External SD's can be expanded to 32 gbs (i have one and it works well)..so use that for all your data and for moveable apps. Remember to check which apps you can move and which must stay on the Internal SD.

[Q] Need help with disk space

I absolutely love my N1 and wouldn't change it for anything else; if only I hadn't this disk space problem.
I have a N1, 2.3.6 GRK39F, rooted but with the original ROM. I have ROM Manager installed but I have not flashed any custom recovery yet. I used root right to uninstall few programs, for TB etc.
I have the APP2SD app from market which I used to move apps to SD card, but I still get the low space error and I can't move anything to SD anymore. This is really annoying me.
Can anybody tell me step by step, what I can do to resolve? Please take into consideration that I already moved my apps to SD using the APP2SD application.
Thanks a lot.

Please insert "A2SD" into search box, and go over the results.
Also, please read Nexus One FAQ, question 9. And while you're at it, use the link - it'll eventually bring you to the thread to read.

[Q] The mysterious case of the disappearing icon

Dear All
Can anyone suggest why an icon would keep getting deleted from the Galaxy Note Home screen after every reboot?
I have GPS Speedometer from Linxmap installed. It works fine but whenever I copy the shortcut icon to my Home screen, it gets deleted after every re-boot. No other app behaves this way. I have asked the dev but have yet to hear from them.
Could this be a bug in the custom ROM I'm using? Hard to believe as only the one app is affected but you never know.
Galaxy Note GT-N7000 + Ultimate N7000 XXLS7 JellyBean 4.1.2v4
Thanks in advance
Trevor

Is the app moved to the sd by any chance ? Find it under settings, manage applications.
Whenever I move apps to sd I lost the icon too
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yes it has has to the icons moved to sd. The bug in the latest release of ics I guess has carried to jb now. Hopefully it will not be there in official release.
move to app to internal storage.

I can see the app info but not sure what info I should be looking for.
Total 6.39MB
Application 1.11MB
USB Storage app 5.12MB
Data 164KB
SD cad 0.00B
I have not attempted to change the default installation. I tried searching for the apk file but can't find where that is stored.
azzledazzle said:
Is the app moved to the sd by any chance ? Find it under settings, manage applications.
Whenever I move apps to sd I lost the icon too
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sacentre said:
I can see the app info but not sure what info I should be looking for.
Total 6.39MB
Application 1.11MB
USB Storage app 5.12MB
Data 164KB
SD cad 0.00B
I have not attempted to change the default installation. I tried searching for the apk file but can't find where that is stored.
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just below where it shows SD card , there is a Button.. it should say "Move to Device Storage".. does it ?.. if yes then press it,.and try the shortcut again.. else report back.

I've done that and it appears to work. The icon is still there after a re-boot. Many thanks indeed.
I've never messed with those settings as I haven't yet learned exactly what they are for.
If it's not too much to ask to ask, could you give a brief explanation of these two settings and when/why I would use them?
Ok, I can see that in the case of this one app, it was stored on the sdcard (which I thought meant the internal sd card of the phone) and for some reason this caused it to get deleted from Home screen on re-boot.
Having clicked on Move to Device Storage, I see that the app file has turned up in data/app and no longer gets deleted from Home screen on re-boot.
Sorry for asking dumb questions but many thanks for fixing my problem.
Trevor
nokiamodeln91 said:
just below where it shows SD card , there is a Button.. it should say "Move to Device Storage".. does it ?.. if yes then press it,.and try the shortcut again.. else report back.
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Some apps get directly installed to ext SD card. This causes the app to relocate itself after a reboot. Not only the homescreen shortcut but if the app is placed in a folder in the app drawer screen, it will come out and replace itself somewhere else. this has been found as a bug in the latest release of ICS 4.0.4 and seems its still there in the leaked JB version.
If used "Move to SD card" : all will store the data on external SD card. it wont be visible via the phone exolorer until you remove the sd and connect to a PC. You can use it for saving space on internal storage but the app icon will keep relocating itself.

That helps a lot. Thank you for your patience.
Trevor
nokiamodeln91 said:
Some apps get directly installed to ext SD card. This causes the app to relocate itself after a reboot. Not only the homescreen shortcut but if the app is placed in a folder in the app drawer screen, it will come out and replace itself somewhere else. this has been found as a bug in the latest release of ICS 4.0.4 and seems its still there in the leaked JB version.
If used "Move to SD card" : all will store the data on external SD card. it wont be visible via the phone exolorer until you remove the sd and connect to a PC. You can use it for saving space on internal storage but the app icon will keep relocating itself.
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nokiamodeln91 said:
Some apps get directly installed to ext SD card. This causes the app to relocate itself after a reboot. Not only the homescreen shortcut but if the app is placed in a folder in the app drawer screen, it will come out and replace itself somewhere else. this has been found as a bug in the latest release of ICS 4.0.4 and seems its still there in the leaked JB version.
If used "Move to SD card" : all will store the data on external SD card. it wont be visible via the phone exolorer until you remove the sd and connect to a PC. You can use it for saving space on internal storage but the app icon will keep relocating itself.
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Just to clarify: The app itself is not being "relocated" on a reboot, the app stays where it was installed (SD Card), and you can still launch it by finding the icon in the app drawer.
The problem is that the icon shortcut vanishes from the TW launcher.
I have a work-around using Tasker, but I sure wish Samsung would fix this.

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