[Q] Gingerbread on Nexus S - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello. So what is the likelihood of the Nexus' Gingerbread working on the Cappy?
Regards

You might have more luck if you posted this in the Nexus S forums. Plus, we'll have to wait till the developers get their hands on it.

Jammn said:
Hello. So what is the likelihood of the Nexus' Gingerbread working on the Cappy?
Regards
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Depends on how different the hardware is between the two phones. Besides the NEC chip and the FFC - they are similiar - but I bet it'd take some tweaking to get it to work right.
And there is no Source code from Sammy yet so we can only speculate.

Jammn said:
Hello. So what is the likelihood of the Nexus' Gingerbread working on the Cappy?
Regards
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I'd say the first phone that gets GB after Nexus S will be Galaxy S. Nexus S IS Galaxy S, pretty much same hardware, so there will be very little tweaking needed driver/hardware-wise to get SGS to run gingerbread.
I wouldn't be surprised if we had a stable GB build before we get Froyo from the god-awful AT&T.

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[Q] Will Froyo releases be leaked ?

Why are samsung leaking these to test, The FroYo FW must be into a good stage of development by now, I am unsure why we are 'beta testing' this and hoping for FroYo to be released working well straight off the bat,
Do you guys think we will get FroYo releases before it is officially released? I mean all these firmwares we are testing will be made into one that gets officially released.
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Of course we will get a leaked release.
dakine said:
Of course we will get a leaked release.
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Is there a better community of beta testers than xda-developers?
I'm very happy with all my Samsung mobiles (...,blade, i780, Omnia2, ...) I hope Samsung STEP IN into this community and help us help them
Samsung: let us test your Beta please (We do it for free!)
dan 6a said:
Why are samsung leaking these to test, The FroYo FW must be into a good stage of development by now, I am unsure why we are 'beta testing' this and hoping for FroYo to be released working well straight off the bat,
Do you guys think we will get FroYo releases before it is officially released? I mean all these firmwares we are testing will be made into one that gets officially released.
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Don't do that. You got the whole place jumping with excitement thinking that FroYo had been leaked. Your a cruel mean person.
Ancient_One said:
Don't do that. You got the whole place jumping with excitement thinking that FroYo had been leaked. Your a cruel mean person.
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Agreed you are mean
I nearly fell from chair.
IF they would release thier Froyo as beta to this forum - they could get beta feedback by reading about bugs posted by us AND does not have to deal with the consequences we know how to reflash - "normal" users dont.
So Win Win for both.
Yeah, you really should have titled the thread as a question. As worded, it makes folks think it's actually happened.
LOL at people's hopes being dashed.
there are already alpha versions out, if you check the Xda blogs
Samsung, your turn.
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FROYO
AllGamer said:
there are already alpha versions out, if you check the Xda blogs
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Already Alpha versions out :|? What!? Where?
Really? No one as excited about thus as I am?
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Really? No one as excited about thus as I am?
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I fired up a google search and i found a lot of hits about a froyo alpha on a galaxy spica. Maybe some things got mixed up.
Yep, can't find anything about Froyo alphas or leaks for the Galaxy S, just for some of the older Galaxy phones.
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
In the time it's taken for the iPhone to go from 3.0 to 4.0, Android has had:
- 1.6 Donut
- 2.0 / 2.1 Eclair
- 2.2 Froyo
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
Luckily the Galaxy S is the flagship of Samsung which they intend to sell 10 million of, so chances are we'll be seeing good support and the stream of beta firmwares shows they're not sitting still.
Froyo has been confirmed for August in Korea, and most likely September in international markets.
We've got to be patient and remember the Nexus One is still the ONLY Android phone that has received an official Froyo update as of yet. Even the Desire, EVO 4G, Droid, Incredible and Droid X are still on the waiting list.
From the sounds of it August-October will be the time the various handset manufacturers will be rolling out their Froyo updates.
AXIS of Reality said:
Yep, can't find anything about Froyo alphas or leaks for the Galaxy S, just for some of the older Galaxy phones.
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
In the time it's taken for the iPhone to go from 3.0 to 4.0, Android has had:
- 1.6 Donut
- 2.0 / 2.1 Eclair
- 2.2 Froyo
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
Luckily the Galaxy S is the flagship of Samsung which they intend to sell 10 million of, so chances are we'll be seeing good support and the stream of beta firmwares shows they're not sitting still.
Froyo has been confirmed for August in Korea, and most likely September in international markets.
We've got to be patient and remember the Nexus One is still the ONLY Android phone that has received an official Froyo update as of yet. Even the Desire, EVO 4G, Droid, Incredible and Droid X are still on the waiting list.
From the sounds of it August-October will be the time the various handset manufacturers will be rolling out their Froyo updates.
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You're absolutely right. However i have a HTC Magic (very old android phone) and i'm running Froyo and it rocks =) hehehe, i know, i know, it's not official
Let's just hope Cyanogen gets one of these Galaxy S and starts porting CMmod to Galaxy S =)
I'm selling my HTC Magic right now to help buying this phone
Cheers,
Phk
AXIS of Reality said:
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
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Yep we sure are
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
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Well they don't do themselves any favours by launching a new phone every couple of weeks and insisting on putting their own UI on top of Android.
Looking further afield: anyone think that Samsung will put Gingerbread on this baby?
flamingpitofhell said:
Yep we sure are
Well they don't do themselves any favours by launching a new phone every couple of weeks and insisting on putting their own UI on top of Android.
Looking further afield: anyone think that Samsung will put Gingerbread on this baby?
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Possibly but I think I have to go with the sceptic masses here that say samsung support isn't good in longterm and so I guess they won't do that. Unless ofc gingerbread is going to bring the massive UI update that vanilla android so desperately needs for usablity and samsung decides that touchwiy isnt necessary anymore.
Phk said:
Let's just hope Cyanogen gets one of these Galaxy S and starts porting CMmod to Galaxy S =)
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There are developers assigned to port CyanogenMod to the Vibrant (T-Mobile US version):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729364
Unfortunately, looking at Wes Garner's Twitter, he seems rather more keen on the Slide than the Vibrant:
I like the slide better
@wesgarner so does that mean your gonna keep developing for the slide?
@XJRodzx probably more for it than the vibrant
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So don't know how that's necessarily going to work out. The intention is there, though, anyway - hope it's still in progress!
I have doubts with Gingerbread...from what we know so far, it's supposed to have a (MUCH NEEDED!) UI overhaul based around the Gallery's sexy look.
If a phone is launched with a certain interface, chances are the manufacturer probably wouldn't be keen on releasing an update that changes everything because of the issue with it being different to what the buyer paid for. Basically, it changes the product, and the picture on the box is no longer what you've bought. It's all well and good with something like Eclair to Froyo since it's largely just performance improvements and some new features rather than an overhaul.
If anything, I think Samsung would be more likely to release a new version of the Galaxy S at Gingerbread's launch. Much like it's doubtful the HTC Desire / Evo 4G / Incredible will get Gingerbread updates. Instead, HTC will probably have new devices ready for the new interface.
The Nexus One is the only current device I believe has a chance of Gingerbread, mainly because it's the 'official' Google phone and has been promoted and sold as a developer phone.They'll be wanting some nice apps ready for Gingerbread when it launches which will obviously need to be in development before Gingerbread-equipped phones launch.

[Q] Nexus One or Bell Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant? I have both, need to sell one.

I just won a free Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant with Bell Mobility, but which one should I keep? I love my Nexus One, and it seems that there is a lot more development for the N1 right now. I am a rom flashing junkie, love to tinker with my phone, and make update.zip files for fun...
That being said, clearly the N1 is better.. but only for right now. Does anyone have any insight on when the Galaxy will get as much attention? It is on 5-6 networks already after all..
Thanks!
Either way, lets get a rom dump and see what we can play with
fiftyclick said:
I just won a free Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant with Bell Mobility, but which one should I keep? I love my Nexus One, and it seems that there is a lot more development for the N1 right now. I am a rom flashing junkie, love to tinker with my phone, and make update.zip files for fun...
That being said, clearly the N1 is better.. but only for right now. Does anyone have any insight on when the Galaxy will get as much attention? It is on 5-6 networks already after all..
Thanks!
Either way, lets get a rom dump and see what we can play with
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Galaxy S probably has the better hardware.
N1 will continue to get android releases from google first ... once the Galaxy S is out on all networks and widely sold, I would expect custom rom development to explode for it (and be the same if not better than for the n1)
=> I would keep the galaxy (based on better hardware alone)
i would keep both. you have the best of both world. N1 which is will have the most updated android and SGS which has best hardware at this moment. but with some issues on software. but that will be all figured out. play with both and then make your decision.
BTW, hating on you so much. lucky SOB.
Whatever you do, don't get rid of the N1. Either keep both and hope the Galaxy issues get resolved (GPS AND Compass) or sell the Galaxy. The Galaxy has much faster graphics performance and built in HDMI out via USB but, unfortunately, the GPS and Compass issue make it a no go for a day to day user. The thing about the Nexus is that it will continue to get updates first and,likely, there will be much more development on it. Likely, this will result in much better tuned software and possibly even open up even more functionality. With the core hardware issues of the Samsung, you are at the mercy of Samsung and their track record is not so good. I actually bought a Vibrant (Galaxy S) and returned it.
Hey! I'm a new Nexus One user. I've been using the Galaxy S for a long time and in the end chose the N1 over it. Yes, the hardware on the GS is better than the N1, but really, for me it all came down to keeping the phone that made me feel heavenly -- the N1!
You will be better off in the long run with the Nexus One...
I sold my n1 for the sgs and I'm not looking back.. true Multitouch, memory ,gpu and super amoled was enough for me. N1 was great, but the sgs is better IMO... development is starting pretty well. Especially soon....

Android 2.3 port from Nexus S to Galaxy S?

Hey guys,
what do you think, is it possible to port the Android 2.3 Gingerbread from Nexus S to our Samsung Galaxy S. Because it has a similar hardware!
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You're fast , just wanted to ask this. Hope some legend dude will do this.
Theoretically it should be very simple to port the software. The only difference I can see from a hardware perspective is the NFC chip which simply needs to be disabled in software, and the missing search button which will need to be mapped to a menu long-press.
I did some work on the NITDroid project back when I had an N900, and neither of these is particularly difficult to do.
For nexus S info:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html
http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
http://www.google.com/phone/compare/?phone=nexus-s&phone=samsung-galaxy-s
will the iNAND be a problem?
Supercurio says the devices use different types of memory.
Might be a bit of a problem
i can't see any reason we will have issues bringing it to the galaxy s line, especially if its the same SoC... and hardware, gps might be different, but thats a huge bonus anyways
Arkanius said:
Supercurio says the devices use different types of memory.
Might be a bit of a problem
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yea the Nexus use the 16gb iNAND...
Since Samsung closely helped Google at making the hardware, hopefully we might have a quick 2.3 Samsung version for our devices
Which will then be easier to bring down to stock with the Cyanogen team progress
It must be far easier than a sense port or even cyanogen port.
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One thing that also caught my eye was, that the video recording isn't HD... probably to not throw away boatloads of RAM for the camera...
Arkanius said:
Since Samsung closely helped Google at making the hardware, hopefully we might have a quick 2.3 Samsung version for our devices
Which will then be easier to bring down to stock with the Cyanogen team progress
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I wouldn't bet on that. If Sammy released 2.3 in short order for the SGS it would cannibalize Nexus S sales. The aftermarket community is still the best bet.
binary110 said:
i can't see any reason we will have issues bringing it to the galaxy s line, especially if its the same SoC... and hardware, gps might be different, but thats a huge bonus anyways
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GPS is the same! Both using A-GPS Chips. The NFC Software must be Disabled, Bluethooth Updated to 3.0, Nexus S has only 2.1 and Video Recording Updated to 1280x720, Nexus S had 720x480
Arkanius said:
Supercurio says the devices use different types of memory.
Might be a bit of a problem
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Thats the biggest problem, I think. SuperCurios Tweet to iNand Tweet
Leandros
This a premature thread. Once a dump or aosp is released only then can we begin to do something about it. Till then this is a discussion thread and not related to development. IMHO
What about rfs? Im sure google is not using it. We will have to work that out as well.
2.3 SDK is out so I see no problem in getting gingerbread.
Whether as a port from the NS or a homebrew I don't really care.
All I want is the integrated SIP client. Been missing this since switching from my Nokia e90 Communicator to Android 1 year ago.
I am interested how the nexus S fares against a hacked Galaxy S, don't think it will be any faster!
Mycorrhiza said:
2.3 SDK is out so I see no problem in getting gingerbread.
Whether as a port from the NS or a homebrew I don't really care.
All I want is the integrated SIP client. Been missing this since switching from my Nokia e90 Communicator to Android 1 year ago.
I am interested how the nexus S fares against a hacked Galaxy S, don't think it will be any faster!
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Everything is virtually the same.
I call up one the powers of the all powerful XDA to port the N:S for all the SGS's that are out there, so we can forget about samsung roms and use a normal google one
The Nexus S doesn't seem to support an external sd card. Likely another problem?
bigriot said:
The Nexus S doesn't seem to support an external sd card. Likely another problem?
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Maybe... but I can live without an external SDCARD for now...

[Q] Android 2.3

Hi,
Anybody knows when Android 2.3 will be available for Samsung Galaxy?
Thanks.
I've only heard of one date and that was late feb, so its going to be more like May
Will there be a sucessor to the galaxy s? im in a dilema whether to buy the device :/
olyloh6696 said:
Will there be a sucessor to the galaxy s? im in a dilema whether to buy the device :/
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Yes Samsung are going to release a successor due to how well it did.
They would be silly to leave it.
probs nothing till late Q2 I can image though
Mark Feb 14th in your diary to find out what.
Cheers for reply guys
Would you recommend still getting the device? I have been Googling the galaxy s 2 . it seeems that the specs will be much better (dual-core!!) So i probably won't be able to afford it. So would you still recommend herring the galaxy s? will it still have a good support (+1 year)
Or do you think i should just stick with my TG01 + SGT?
Is there a way to install Android 2.3 manually onto the Galaxy S without losing the functionlities? After some google'ing I found some info, but some functionalities are missing, like Wifi, GPS etc.
olyloh6696 said:
I have been Googling the galaxy s 2 . it seeems that the specs will be much better (dual-core!!)
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Hm, I'm less than convinced that the leaked Galaxy S 2 specs are real.
Get the nexus s unless you want better bluetooth and camera. Also gingerbread from source looks to be done in a month at least.
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I just moved from my G1 to a galaxy s last month. Due to getting a 16gb one for £100.
With lagfix and over clocking it is the fastest phone I've used. ( I repair phones so have used a lot)
If you can get one at the right price its worth it. But if you want to wait for the next OS you will wait forever. Google seem to put updates out every other month. So there is always but this phone has version what ever.
If you like the hardware go for it. If you want Google updates get a nexus.
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Back to the original question
Is there a good way to install Android to 2.3 to the current galaxy phones?
no, there is not.
I read that samsung announced a galaxy s successor recently.
I think they said they were to unveil it in WMC
Goto Developer section and install Darkys, its the biz... Android Version to 2.3.1
Bill_McN said:
Goto Developer section and install Darkys, its the biz... Android Version to 2.3.1
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Its a 2.2.1 version based on JPY firmware.NOT a 2.3.
Why does it say 2.3.1 then?
Forget 2.3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrAjgYDx7yU&feature=player_embedded

Captivate phasing out?

So I heard rumors that Samsung is not continuing production of the Captivate and will be phasing it out. Is it true??????? This would mean no Gingerbread for us. Anyone have any more info on this?
We most likely will not get Gingerbread anyway. Samsung only committed to one major release (that being froyo). There are leaks of it available on the i9000 but I would be very surprised if those ever shake down the tree to the Captivate. Especially with the Galaxy S 2 coming out in the coming weeks.
I'm a bit more optimistic about it. Perhaps we won't get an official 2.3 for the Captivate (from what I remember, Samsung doesn't build a firmware for a carrier branded device until the carrier asks for it, so you would have ATT to blame for that one), but I'm confident that the i9000 will get an official "Gingerbread". If they release an official 2.3 or 2.4 for the i9000, the source will follow soon after, and we can build a Captivate version from that.
if a cell phone is in your hand, it has been phased out already, in some regard.
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I'm a bit more optimistic about it. Perhaps we won't get an official 2.3 for the Captivate (from what I remember, Samsung doesn't build a firmware for a carrier branded device until the carrier asks for it, so you would have ATT to blame for that one), but I'm confident that the i9000 will get an official "Gingerbread". If they release an official 2.3 or 2.4 for the i9000, the source will follow soon after, and we can build a Captivate version from that.
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Exactly. We will certainly get Gingerbread eventually, because the i9000 will get it. And what the i9000 gets, we get.
Also, while not entirely stable, CM7 is working on the Captivate, and that's gingerbread.
i doubt it going to be phased out that quick. Keep note, the phone is still less than a year old and a powerhouse in terms of performance.
Tegra 2 GPU performance is still just about on par with the GPU in the Galaxy S phones. Only thing is that it has dual-core for faster regular computing.
There are already leaked builds of the Galaxy S gingerbread.
And yes, CM7 has a fairly stable build of gingerbread AOSP for the Captivate. Im running it currently and its pretty darn good. Keep in mind its AOSP and built from the group up pretty much by the ppl over at Cyanogen and doesn't have a single trace of Touchwiz which is awesome.
Trusselo said:
if a cell phone is in your hand, it has been phased out already, in some regard.
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Nice. Rig.
Well it makes sense... Why would they keep making new Captivates/Vibrants/Fascinates/Epic 4Gs/Nexus S' when they're just about to release their Galaxy S 2 phones which are MUCH better? They have tons of stock already out there, so I bet they've already stopped production on these phones awhile ago.
Also, they mentioned about a week ago or so that all Galaxy S phones will be getting Gingerbread... The update problem wasn't because of Samsung, it was the carriers holding them back, everyone else in the world got their Froyo update months ago, the US was the last to get it.
About the upcoming galaxy s 2, is it going to be available for at&t or are we on att gonna get stuck with the infuse which only has a single core processor.
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About the upcoming galaxy s 2, is it going to be available for at&t or are we on att gonna get stuck with the infuse which only has a single core processor.
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I recall reading somewhere that Samsung is planning on doing the same with the Galaxy S 2 as they did with the current Galaxy S phones, have them on all carriers with slight hardware differences and different names. So if that's the case, you'll have a version of the Galaxy S 2 available on AT&T... Trying to dig up the article where I read that, will update this post when I do.
That's makes sense that they'll do that. But on samsungs website it shows that the infuse is coming to att which I believe only has a single core processor the hummingbird. So that will be a little bit of a bummer.
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Also, they mentioned about a week ago or so that all Galaxy S phones will be getting Gingerbread... The update problem wasn't because of Samsung, it was the carriers holding them back, everyone else in the world got their Froyo update months ago, the US was the last to get it.
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Do you have a link to this? It would be an interesting read...
Tmo stopped selling the Vibrant as soon as the 4g came out, so I bet the cappy will be done for when the infuse is out.
Since it took almost 9 mos to get the Froyo update - I would suspect we will never see a Gingerbread update for our phones.
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Do you have a link to this? It would be an interesting read...
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Yep! The official Gingerbread rom has already been leaked... But, how long until we finally get the update is unknown.
Galaxy S Gingerbread official update!
Gingerbread rom leaked!
d3v14n7 said:
Yep! The official Gingerbread rom has already been leaked... But, how long until we finally get the update is unknown.
Galaxy S Gingerbread official update!
Gingerbread rom leaked!
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December 10, 2010?
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December 10, 2010?
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The leaked rom was on March 3rd, so I assume they're fairly close to release on the i9000, other phones will follow shortly after, hopefully...
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The leaked rom was on March 3rd, so I assume they're fairly close to release on the i9000, other phones will follow shortly after, hopefully...
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You mean like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978150
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You mean like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978150
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Yep, I meant the official final Gingerbread rom for the i9000 will be released shortly, not the leaked version like CM7 uses.
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Yep, I meant the official final Gingerbread rom for the i9000 will be released shortly, not the leaked version like CM7 uses.
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CM7 doesn't use the leaked i9000 version.. It's built from the official Nexus S sources, with tons of hand-crafting to get it to work properly on the Galaxy S line.

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