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How to revert to stock kernel

I have a Bell SGS, GT-I9000m. I'm considering installing hardcore kernel only, i.e. no custom ROM. If later I want to revert to the stock kernel, how would I do that?
Thanks for your help.
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I'm not quite sure if it is possible with the stock-kernel but if you can make a full backup (like with CWM) you could restore it later. But why do you want to get back to stock-kernel?
If the backup-possibility does not work you have to find the stock-kernel for downloading and flash it via Odin or you have to flash the whole stock-ROM with Odin.

Thanks for your answer. I can't make a Nandroid backup while I'm on stock (because I can't install CWM recovery because I'm on 3e stock recovery, not 2e)
I'm not sure why I would want to go back to stock... Maybe something goes terribly wrong? I guess I just wanted to know if it was possible.
Last question: when you say I would have to find the stock kernel, is that just Google, or are there sites/repositories out there for this sort of thing?
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I should add, the site/repo question is for kernels and stock ROMs...
Thanks.
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site1ca said:
I'm not sure why I would want to go back to stock... Maybe something goes terribly wrong?
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Well, then just flash the whole stock-ROM and flash it (look at samnfirmware.com for firmwares).
site1ca said:
Last question: when you say I would have to find the stock kernel, is that just Google, or are there sites/repositories out there for this sort of thing?
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Don't know if you'll find it anywhere cause nobody needs it.

Possible scenario
Alright, thanks for your help. I guess the one scenario that is bothering me is as follows:
1) Bell - FINALLY - releases their official Gingerbread update.
2) I've installed Hardcore kernel, which according to - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822756 - "works on all 2.2 and 2.2.1 ROMs".
3) Would I be able to install the Bell Gingerbread update with Hardcore kernel?
This is why I keep asking how I would revert from Hardcore because I obviously don't want to lock myself out of Bell updates forever.

It doesn't matter which kernel you are using when you are flashing with Odin. And Bell releases the updates later than Samsung, so you'd have the advantage of getting updates earlier with a 'free' firmware.

One solution to flash back the stock kernel is to extract the zImage (the kernel) from the stock rom and flash that with Odin or Heimdall.
But as far as I know having a custom kernel would not cause problems with installing a stock upgrade.

Done
I've installed Hardcore's kernel. Everything seems to be working fine, phone started up and picked up service.
I booted into recovery, enabled lagfix, turned on all of the recommended tweaks and then ran the Quadrant Standard. Things seem a bit faster, so I guess it's all good.
Next step, Darky's 10.1.
Thanks for your help, everyone.

One more question:
I did a Nandroid backup of everything (so data, dbdata, cache AND system). The restore option says "Be careful!". What's up with that? I mean, what's the caveat?
Thanks.

I've already made some NANDROID-backups, but never seen 'Be careful!'.
If the backup was succesful I wouldn't care about that.

*sigh*, I hate to keep adding questions on to this thread, but I must.
After installing the hardcore kernel and enabling tweaks and lagfix, I'm running into exactly this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=851970
My phone was extremely hot for a while, then I got a warning indicating that my internal phone storage was running low, etc.
Eventually, I found this file (/data/local/tsprsp) to be the culprit. I deleted it and rebooted and now my phone is fine. However, vibration just doesn't work at all!
Any ideas? Has anyone else run into this problem?

I was told that if you do a 'full' backup, in some cases restoration will fail with some error. But it depends on the version of the ROM you are using.
That is the reason why it is recommended to backup only data and if you want to restore, then first reflash your rom, then restore the data.

Thanks, zsori. That explains the "Be careful!".
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After trying MIUI, a stock ROM will never touch my SGS again.

meresis said:
After trying MIUI, a stock ROM will never touch my SGS again.
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you will have to flash back a stock rom via odin if anything wrong happen during the flashing of custom roms, although chances are low if you follow the instructions carefully.
good luck and have fun flashing custom roms!

Which Gingerbread?
So I'm continuing my quest to learn more about all of this custom ROM flashing stuff. And I wanted to get gingerbread on my phone... So I figured I'd just get an image from samfirmware.com and flash it. But then, I went here (because I was also interested in Darky's 10.1 so I was reading their guide): http://www.darkyrom.com/community/i...-darkyrom-gingerbread-jvh-noob-friendly.3080/
It says that flashing "Ficeto_JVH_I9000_Odin" will get me a stock Gingerbread. My question: what's the difference between flashing an image from samfirmware.com or flashing "Ficeto_JVH_I9000_Odin"? How do I know which to pick?
In all my browsing/reading, I realize that there are 3 "separate" parts: kernel, modem and then the "ROM". Ideally, I want to keep my modem as is... What does that correspond to in Odin? I've tried to find what "PIT", "PDA", "PHONE" and "CSC" represent in Odin, but I'm not sure I got it right. PIT = Kernel? PHONE = modem?
And finally, how do I know if a particular kernel is compatible with a particular ROM?
Sorry, I know there are lots of questions there. But please help clearing up a n00b's confusion. Thanks.

site1ca said:
So I'm continuing my quest to learn more about all of this custom ROM flashing stuff. And I wanted to get gingerbread on my phone... So I figured I'd just get an image from samfirmware.com and flash it. But then, I went here (because I was also interested in Darky's 10.1 so I was reading their guide): http://www.darkyrom.com/community/i...-darkyrom-gingerbread-jvh-noob-friendly.3080/
It says that flashing "Ficeto_JVH_I9000_Odin" will get me a stock Gingerbread. My question: what's the difference between flashing an image from samfirmware.com or flashing "Ficeto_JVH_I9000_Odin"? How do I know which to pick?
In all my browsing/reading, I realize that there are 3 "separate" parts: kernel, modem and then the "ROM". Ideally, I want to keep my modem as is... What does that correspond to in Odin? I've tried to find what "PIT", "PDA", "PHONE" and "CSC" represent in Odin, but I'm not sure I got it right. PIT = Kernel? PHONE = modem?
And finally, how do I know if a particular kernel is compatible with a particular ROM?
Sorry, I know there are lots of questions there. But please help clearing up a n00b's confusion. Thanks.
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you got it wrong.
PIT is for mapping the partitioning of the phone. In most cases you should only use 512 pit file. and only use it when you want to wipe the phone.
the three parts is "pda" (which is the rom), "phone" (which is the modem), and "csc" (which is the carrier customization and apns)
the kernel is in the part of pda (the rom)
check the thread in xda of the kernel to see if its a gingerbread kernel or froyo kernel.
hope this clear things up

Yes, that helps. That's really good to know. So now, in Darky's guide to flashing Flash Ficeto_JVH_Odin, I see that only PIT and PDA are specified. This is reassuring, knowing that the modem and carrier stuff isn't touched.
Many thanks.

There are firmwares with three parts (Phone, PDA, CSC, including bootloader) and with only one part (PDA, no bootloader(?)). The one-part-FW is just an 'update', the one with three parts an 'upgrade'.

[Q] After flashing back stock ROM, the phone keeps blinking on the boot screen (HELP)

I am in desperate need of help you guys! I screwed up so hard that I don't even know where to begin...
THE SITUATION:
-Right now when I go to turn on my phone, it will only stay on the current SAMSUNG GALAXY S I9000 screen (the very first screen when booting your phone) and it keeps flashing in and out.
Before trying to use Odin to put back the original Kernal on my phone, it was just stuck as the SAMSUNG GALAXY S I9000 screen, still wouldn't start. <I followed this website step by step>
http://www.samsunggalaxysforum.com/...-to-a-stock-rom-after-installing-darky's-rom/
BEFORE ALL OF THIS EVER HAPPENED:
I finally rooted my phone and manage to download Clockworkmod recovery on my phone and then used it to flash Darky's 10.2 custom ROM. Everything turned out great except at the beginning of the boot, the screen turned all rainbow coloured, completely distorted, and it continued to do that. I then tried to go back to Recovery mode to do the Voodoo lagfix but I couldn't even get into the recovery mode anymore, it either wouldn't let me, or it did but the screen didn't go to it properly (more likely the first one). I read somewhere that if you reflash your phone again, it should make all the tweeks go away. So I tried that from the Darky's tools menu and ever since then, I've been stuck with the Boot Screen this whole time...
I already bricked my phone once, and that was before the Flashing Boot Screen.
I really need help you guys, I would at least like to have my phone back to the original basis, at least! Your help would be greatly appreciated!
THANK YOU
P.S. (i'm not that great at all this phone tweeking, but I've succeeded in doing it up until yesterday)

Can you get into download mode (vol down+home+power while putting the battery in)?
If you can, just reflash a stock or custom rom in odin (like a darky odin rom) as guided by whatever rom you choose.
If you cannot get into download mode then we should know that too.
Edit: oh it looks like you could (and hopefully still can). Try a different rom or reflash. Sometime things do go wrong but as long as you can get to the download screen you should be fine in the end.
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gfacer said:
Can you get into download mode (vol down+home+power while putting the battery in)?
If you can, just reflash a stock or custom rom in odin (like a darky odin rom) as guided by whatever rom you choose.
If you cannot get into download mode then we should know that too.
Edit: oh it looks like you could (and hopefully still can). Try a different rom or reflash. Sometime things do go wrong but as long as you can get to the download screen you should be fine in the end.
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Yes, I can get into download mode! (thank you for reading my post).
If it's not too much to ask, could you maybe find the ROM that would be good for me to flash, considering my situation?
I want to be sure that it's what the top tech guys would recommend
A link would be appreciated
thank you again!

I'd start with a Darky rom - lots of users - active forum and odin editions for your situation. I have to go but you'll find the link on the first page of the development section.
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gfacer said:
I'd start with a Darky rom - lots of users - active forum and odin editions for your situation. I have to go but you'll find the link on the first page of the development section.
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So in essence all I have to do is flash the Darky ROM V10.2 with Odin using the Download mode on my phone and it should be okay?

Wait one caveat. Was it a gingerbread rom or froyo? Use a Darky rom of the same type...
Then yes it should be ok if you follow their guide. Cross fingers.
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gfacer said:
Wait one caveat. Was it a gingerbread rom or froyo? Use a Darky rom of the same type...
Then yes it should be ok if you follow their guide. Cross fingers.
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well...I did everything you said. The ROM is on there alright, it flashed and everything (And I know this because now when the boot screen STILL FLASHES, the darkcore & darky's rom logo are on it too).
THIS TIME AROUND:
The stock recovery seems to work...
any ideas??

Well we are sort of in long shot territory now... OK first try using a different odin version or ez odin and reflash.
If still not working??
Might be warranty time then but others are welcome to chime in.
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gfacer said:
Well we are sort of in long shot territory now... OK first try using a different odin version or ez odin and reflash.
If still not working??
Might be warranty time then but others are welcome to chime in.
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Alright I'll try and reflash the same one using a different version of odin the. I'll let you know what happened

gfacer said:
Well we are sort of in long shot territory now... OK first try using a different odin version or ez odin and reflash.
If still not working??
Might be warranty time then but others are welcome to chime in.
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tried ezodin, flashed it, and i still get the exact same thing I've exhausted every single possibility there is!!!
I really need help on this, my warranty is not gonna do anything because i have the phone rooted..

If you flash a stock rom with pit the root is gone. It won't boot but they can't prove it was you either and I don't think it was you.
But see my other post on your other thread for one last thought.
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If you flash a stock rom with pit the root is gone. It won't boot but they can't prove it was you either and I don't think it was you.
But see my other post on your other thread for one last thought.
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okay that could be useful data potentially (let's hope it won't have to be).
If you didn't see my reply from the other thread, here it is:
Once I rooted my phone, I automatically went from Stock Froyo to Darky's 10.2 extreme edition. It worked and everything except for that color disfiguration and the clockworkmod recovery not working.
It's weird because after I flashed my first darky's rom, i checked the phone and it said that the firmware version was 2.3.X (I believe X may have been 4). So from what you're saying, I don't exactly think it has anything to do with the fact that I went straight from froyo stock to GB darky ROM.
So are you saying that I should flash darky's 9.3 for Froyo and THEN flash the latest version?

No I think that you need froyo re edition then stock gb with bootloader (as the instructions say I thought) then a custom gb like 10.2.
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gfacer said:
No I think that you need froyo re edition then stock gb with bootloader (as the instructions say I thought) then a custom gb like 10.2.
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Ok, so just to be 100% on this
-I should flash Darky's 9.2 froyo onto my phone,
-then I should flash regular GB onto my phone (Not sure about the bootloader part though, if you could clarify that)(Also where would I get JUST a stock GB ROM?)
-then I can flash a custom GB ROM?

gfacer said:
No I think that you need froyo re edition then stock gb with bootloader (as the instructions say I thought) then a custom gb like 10.2.
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well i can safely say that flashing the 9.2 froyo rom was a fail. It's still doing the same old routine.
I just know that this problem can be fixed somehow without sending it in to bell or samsung or something.

roma17 said:
well i can safely say that flashing the 9.2 froyo rom was a fail. It's still doing the same old routine.
I just know that this problem can be fixed somehow without sending it in to bell or samsung or something.
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I think you are right but other than trying again and again, which I've done before -though now I know why I had too - I am out of suggestions. Good Luck and if I have a brainwave I'll let you know.
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OK a few last brainwaves:
1) Try a fully complete stock rom with cache.rfs, dbdata.rfs, factoryfs.rfs, modem.bin, param.lfs, zImage, and sbl.bin (this was from JL2 rom for Bell - not sure if they all have the sbl.bin) and pit.
The key is to make sure it is complete. Try downloading the same rom from 2 different sources just to be sure its not a corrupt download (going overboard I know).
2) Can you get into recovery? Try to format partitions (not system) under advanced features (I think - I only have 3e right now as I am trying to diagnose other issues).
3) If you have a froyo rom on at one point, try to put a steam recovery kernel on. Its not really being developed anymore but I think that if you put a CWM packaged rom on to the external SD you could flash from there or at least move it to the internal and then flash it. Worth a shot. Or you might be able to transfer one in regular CWM recovery - can't recall as I have not had to try for about 8 months.
4) If you really want to try something completely different, and I am not sure I've got the balls if it was me but if you can get a file to flash from CWM or steam that you can get on from the external SD, you might try CM7. It uses a completely different file system so you'd have to go back to froyo via odin only (as a samsung based rom will not play well when flashed on top of the cm7 file system).
And calling it a day at this one...

gfacer said:
OK a few last brainwaves:
1) Try a fully complete stock rom with cache.rfs, dbdata.rfs, factoryfs.rfs, modem.bin, param.lfs, zImage, and sbl.bin (this was from JL2 rom for Bell - not sure if they all have the sbl.bin) and pit.
The key is to make sure it is complete. Try downloading the same rom from 2 different sources just to be sure its not a corrupt download (going overboard I know).
2) Can you get into recovery? Try to format partitions (not system) under advanced features (I think - I only have 3e right now as I am trying to diagnose other issues).
3) If you have a froyo rom on at one point, try to put a steam recovery kernel on. Its not really being developed anymore but I think that if you put a CWM packaged rom on to the external SD you could flash from there or at least move it to the internal and then flash it. Worth a shot. Or you might be able to transfer one in regular CWM recovery - can't recall as I have not had to try for about 8 months.
4) If you really want to try something completely different, and I am not sure I've got the balls if it was me but if you can get a file to flash from CWM or steam that you can get on from the external SD, you might try CM7. It uses a completely different file system so you'd have to go back to froyo via odin only (as a samsung based rom will not play well when flashed on top of the cm7 file system).
And calling it a day at this one...
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Okay, basically at this point, I just want my phone to work I've tried what you said. I remember that before rooting my phone initially I was running Froyo 2.2.1. So I found the ROM for that ( http://www.samfirmware.com/WEBPROTECT-i9000.htm ) Just like you said. I downloaded from the *Provider Samsung Galaxy S i9000 heading and picked the I9000BOJS5 ## from February 2011 because I think somewhere around there I updated my phone to Froyo. Flashed it, did everything, still no luck.
I've had a recent hunch though. When the bootscreen boots up, it keeps saying i9000 only, when before it used to say i9000M at least for a little bit (yes my phone is i9000m). Is there a stock froyo rom that's specifically designed to go with the i9000m model? Or are they just all the same?
Never give up
-Thank you so much

Need help with installing a custom rom.

Please help!!! I have searched and searched and searched the forums and have come across so many threads on how to add a custom rom to your Captivate.
To start, what I have been trying to do is add a custom rom after upgrading my phone from ver 2.2 to 2.3.3 GB. Some posts say you can just upgrade with the 2.3 on the phone, other posts say you need to take the phone back to the stock 2.1 rom. Then you find posts that say, make sure you have the stock bootloaders and kernals when you downgrade to the stock 2.1.
You can easily see how even a somewhat above novice can get confussed. To take my phone back to 2.1 I have followed posts that say use Odin 1.3. I have used odin before so no big deal. However in this case again you are getting different opionions and versions on this. Some have just the odin .exe and others have the .exe and the MD5 and .ini it the package. I am assuming that the one with just the .exe has everything built in as the size is quite big.
I have tried both ways and after I "Flash" it will not finish with the normal recovery mode and see the linux script. It will go to the ATT window and just keep rebooting over and over. I then will use my JIG and get back in download mode in order to reflash back to 2.3.3 just to get the phone to work again.
Can someone please give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong or direct me to the proper files and maybe some better step by step instructions.
Thanks in advance for the help.

What Rom is currently on you phone? Which Bootloaders do you have installed?
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Rhiannon224 said:
What Rom is currently on you phone? Which Bootloaders do you have installed?
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Here is the info:
Firmware: 2.3.3
Baseband: I897UCKF1
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-I897UCKF1-CL273832
Build: GIGERBREAD.UCKF1

^ From the looks of what u posted, it looks like u have the leaked i897uckf1 currently on ur phone. If that is the case, then u could Odin the Cognition Beta 2 Kernel and then flash the latest Cog Rom (having already copied it to ur internal sd).
Just flash the kernel through Odin then use button combo (volume +/- and power...release after u see the at&t screen) to get into CWM 4.0.0.5 and flash Cog 5 v 1.00 from there.
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Are you plugging into a usb port in the back of your pc? Also, there are several methods for flashing back to stock now, once you upgrade to GB bootloaders you don’t ever want to use the Odin with the button fix because it will only flash the secondary bootloader and the primary bootloader will remain GB and the result will be a hardbrick. Also, some of the newer builds came with Froyo installed and using the older 1 click Odin by DesignGears will put those devices in a bootloop. So it really is dependent on your device and your needs. I now use the method outlined in the Continuum 6.1 thread which will not touch the bootloaders and brings you safely back to 2.1 stock. I always clear user data and cache in recovery, flash back to stock using Cezar's method (not a 1 click) prior to flashing a new Rom. Most devs recommend flashing to stock first because there is less chance of corruption.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOyx5JQ_8_I
MobileTechVideos video is how i flashed my first gingerbread ROM. Its easy, straight forward and he has all the links you will need under the video.
piece-a-cake

Gupone said:
Please help!!! I have searched and searched and searched the forums and have come across so many threads on how to add a custom rom to your Captivate.
To start, what I have been trying to do is add a custom rom after upgrading my phone from ver 2.2 to 2.3.3 GB. Some posts say you can just upgrade with the 2.3 on the phone, other posts say you need to take the phone back to the stock 2.1 rom. Then you find posts that say, make sure you have the stock bootloaders and kernals when you downgrade to the stock 2.1.
You can easily see how even a somewhat above novice can get confussed. To take my phone back to 2.1 I have followed posts that say use Odin 1.3. I have used odin before so no big deal. However in this case again you are getting different opionions and versions on this. Some have just the odin .exe and others have the .exe and the MD5 and .ini it the package. I am assuming that the one with just the .exe has everything built in as the size is quite big.
I have tried both ways and after I "Flash" it will not finish with the normal recovery mode and see the linux script. It will go to the ATT window and just keep rebooting over and over. I then will use my JIG and get back in download mode in order to reflash back to 2.3.3 just to get the phone to work again.
Can someone please give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong or direct me to the proper files and maybe some better step by step instructions.
Thanks in advance for the help.
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Listen, I'm new at this and learned watchin mobiletech videos from youtube. At first I found it hard but now is pretty easy (in my opinion). The first thin I do is back up apps with titanium and paste to my laptop (for me is faster to install them back), go back to stock 2.2, master reset using dialer (no odin), root, reboot, install rom on sd card, using odin i install bootloaders (I9000), flash talon kernel (odin), flash rom (CWM) and reboot. That's how I do it. Now, I could b wrong but doing it that way, in that pattern works for me. Like I said, I'm new at this but trust me....I've done it several times and it works for me. Keep reading and then decide how you want to do it. Good luck..."HONESTLY"!!!

It all depends on where you are now and where you want to go.
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I'm new to all of this and have done a good amount of research but seems like the information never ends and there are a few ways to load a custom rom.
Method one
BACK UP!!!
Flash to stock (FTS)
Wait for your phone to reboot and then re-enable debugging
Hook phone back up to pc and Master Clear (MC) using Odin
Load Clockwork update.zip (DOWNLOAD)
Load FireFly_X-X.zip to phone memory
Remove sim and external SD, and unplug USB
Boot into recovery and reinstall packages (You may have to reinstall packages twice to get to Clockwork recovery)
Once in Clockwork recovery (Green Text), select install zip from SDcard
Next select choose zip from sdcard
Scroll down to FireFly_X-X.zip and select the file
This will run the script and install the ROM to your phone
After this is done, select go back and then select reboot phone
This may take a while, so leave your phone and go grab a snack!
Method 2
Load ROM file onto phone
Boot into recovery
Select ROM and flash it
Reboot, wait and enjoy
Wash, rinse, repeat!
What are the differences? Which one is better?
Seems like the first video is very simple and straight forward?
Am I missing something here? I'm already rooted and used titanium backup.
I'm on 2.2 Froyo and wanting to flash to Firefly 3.0
Thanks!

[Q] Using UOT zip files in stock recovery.

Hello All,
This is my first post! But I have been visitor of this forum for some time now. Its been a great learning experience! OK ...let me come straight to the point..
Important Phone Specs:
-Samsung Captivate with stock ATT froyo (UCKB1)
-rooted, installed one-click lag fix (other minor things, like removed all bloatware, overclocked etc.)
I am planning on changing the icons in the notification bar (for example battery icon mod) using UOT (ultimate online theme kitchen) and I have the UOT zip file ready.
Q1. It is not clear if this zip file can be flashed from the stock recovery mode.
Per my understanding, these are unsigned files and hence might not work with stock recovery mode. Can some one please confirm?
Q2. If stock recovery mode does not work, then I plan to install clockwork mod recovery from the ROM Manager apk available on the market.
a) Since I will be using a custom recovery image, I assume I will no longer be able to use KIES to perform any stock updates if and when they become available. Is that correct?
b) How easy is it to revert back to stock recovery? Can you please let me know the procedure (or) point me to a link with this information?
The reason I ask is because I would like to stay stock as much as I can for the moment.
Thanks all for your help.
Regards.

I have used the UOT kitchen zips on stock KB1 but not with the stock recovery. I think you have to use CWM recovery. There's really no reason to go back to stock recovery. If you ever want to use Kies in the future to get updates (assuming ATT ever releases GB through Kies), you would have to flash back to stock anyway for Kies to recognize the phone.

Jackman,
Thanks for the response. I agree with you. I am not hopeful that ATT would release GB any time soon for captivate...so yeah I makes sense to go ahead with the CWM recovery.
I just wanted to know the pros and cons before I get started with the process.

read the how to flash custom roms link in my sig. new user guide too, find the part about stickies.
#1 correct.
#2 rom manager is only good for froyo roms on captivate... there are froyo kernels with CWM built in and tweaked that run fine on stock roms, but you must Odin flash the kernel.... which leads to...
#3 keis is garbage we use odin, the official samsung flasher utility. and we flash the same .tar files keis uses.
#4 easy to get back to stock. odin-one-click stock flashes are ONE CLICK. Sticky in Captivate Dev section. (use new user guide to find.)

Kies is trash. Even if you go back o stock, you probably need to modify code to make sure your phone's ID is still the correct one. It really isn't worth it considering Kies is just ODIN with a different UI and a craptistic amount of "checks" wich makes it fail 90% of the time.

I hardly ever have problems with odin. odin 1.3 sucked 1.5and newer work great. the homemade one clicks can be buggy. md5 check wont let you edit file names of tars. other than that i DONT have problems. its all i use. dont like heimdall and having to change my drivers for it.

[Q] new note user....a little help...

To anyone that can point me in the right direction....
Just got my note this morning - itching to get it rooted...ive had a fair few phones in the past (just coming from a sensation) which i rooted and reflashed nearly every week. used to have a galaxy tab which i also rooted etc etc so im ok with odin, adb etc etc.....the only problem i have is where to start - theres a million roms to choose from and im not sure where to go
my kernel is 2.6.35.7-N7000XXLA6-CL907341
baseband is N7000XXLA4
Can anyone point me in the right direction for the tools that i need access to...
thanks to anyone that can help
Comfy

I can see that mine isnt directly rootable and know that ive got to go to an older rom but which one??

You can have any older ROM, listed here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
select any from directly rootable ROM, I am suggesting this one
N7000XXKL3 ------ 2.3.6 2011 December-------- N7000ODDKL1 --------------------India
as this is non wipe N rootable, you won't lose data.
Alternately, select from 4th line of my signature, which is modified pre rooted ROM

Well, first and foremost thanks for replying so fast! it'd be nice to get this flashed as soon as possible -ive got no data to keep as its new to me so ive got yours downloading now (take about another hour from what i can see) - so, once ive got your rom is it just a case of using oding to upload it (its a while since ive had a tab) so im a bit rusty.....+ i take it the next step is CWM?? is that right??

sorry - all the questions - obviously im downloading your interim rom to get it rooted - whats the best ics rom at the moment....?

ComfySofa said:
sorry - all the questions - obviously im downloading your interim rom to get it rooted - whats the best ics rom at the moment....?
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There is no best rom as they all differ. I'd suggest Imilka's AOSP rom ( if you like AOSP that is ). It's fast, clean and stable.

ComfySofa said:
- so, once ive got your rom is it just a case of using oding to upload it (its a while since ive had a tab) so im a bit rusty.....+ i take it the next step is CWM?? is that right??
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yes, just use PC odin to flash ROM, if you have any query, refer to post #2 of thread, i have mention in previous msg.
yeah, next is to get CWM
And, finally you can update to latest ROM by using CWM to keep root intact.
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sorry - all the questions - obviously im downloading your interim rom to get it rooted - whats the best ics rom at the moment....?
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Sorry, I can't help in this matter much, as I have never used any custom ROM.

??????????

What is "not directly rootable"? You can flash CF/Speedmod/Franco/Abyss kernel over any stock rom to get root. You are anyways asking to downgrade ROM using PC ODIN which is going to increase the counter. Why not flash only one of these kernels using PC ODIN?
From the Moderator,
Please clarify your statement. It is not entirely accurate. The Phone needs to be unlocked 1st before any rooting can occur. Secondly, Not All kernels will provide rooting, UNLESS they are written and configured to do so.
People's knowledge level in XDA are from total noob to expert, so it is highly advisable to provide more succinct complete postings e.g. do A then B then etc. That way, people do not misunderstand your posting.
~~ oka1

watsa said:
What is "not directly rootable"? You can flash CF/Speedmod/Franco/Abyss kernel over any stock rom to get root. You are anyways asking to downgrade ROM using PC ODIN which is going to increase the counter. Why not flash only one of these kernels using PC ODIN?
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Since how long you are on N7000 forum? looking you are since long on XDA (just seen U R developer)
May i have not uttered more thn three four words, if it was stated by newbie.
When you are 'recognized developer' it puts lot weight on every word you spoke. Hope you can consider to review again your advise.
Can you confirm once again to your statement?
Flash stock ROM using PC odin raise counter?
Flashing CF/Franco/Abyss with PC odin, won't raise counter?
I do believe, your statement is completely wrong. PC odin never raise counter, if you flash STOCK ROM. But any custom Kernel you have described, if flashed with PC Odin will certainly raise counter. Though you are recognized developer, but seems you are new to N7000 develpment.

I havent gone anywhere - still havent got your rooted file - im about 70% of the way there - this has got to be the slowest download ever!!

At last - ive got your rooted file - just extracted it and theres just one file in there - i thought with odin you had individual files....how do i load this one on....

watsa said:
What is "not directly rootable"? You can flash CF/Speedmod/Franco/Abyss kernel over any stock rom to get root. You are anyways asking to downgrade ROM using PC ODIN which is going to increase the counter. Why not flash only one of these kernels using PC ODIN?
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You're 100% wrong. PC Odin won't raise the binary counter as long as it's a stock ROM. The OP needs to flash an older stock ROM so he can root and then do whatever he wants to do. The binary counter will get raised if he flashes a custom ROM with PC Odin.
PC Odin: Stock ROM's
Mobile Odin and CWM: Stock and custom ROM's

ok - i got there in the end - Firstly i like to thank Dr.Ketan for pointing me in the right direction.....i have a few post-type questions.....
i flashed the rom you suggested (the one that was already rooted) - while it went on ok - while it was in that state i lost the ability to use the keyboard - when i type anything in the key would flash up but the it came up with "null" everytime i hit a key...not too much of a problem as it was only a temporary rom.
Also when i flashed the ics rom you suggested - imilka - it flashed.....then at the boot screen it kept freezing (at the boot animation) - i popped the battery a few times and then it eventually started.....and its been fine since....anyone else ever had that/is that the norm...?
Finally - obviously ive removed the stock rom and im now on ics....is there a way i can download all of the stylus apps and put them back in (one of the reasons i bought a note was to use the stylus - bit gimmicky but it would be nice to mess around with it)
Also - i had to install clockwork mod from the market (i have a paid app version of it) - to actually get into clockwork mod....how to i get to cwm from a cold boot - i read that you had to hold down the vol up and down and hit the power - mine just boots - unless im doing something wrong but, when its fully booted i can go to cwm and restart from there and i can go in.....
Sorry about all the questions but, its a great phone, just want to start messing around with it...new toy!
Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.
Comfy

Keyboard null issue is common, that usually manage by flashing other rom or with flashing csc, but you have manage it so nothing to discuss.
booting error is routinely termed as bootloop, also common,particularly switching between gb n ics rom. Usually it solved with wipe cache n wipe data.
Sorry abt stylus appl, i have no expirence of ics, as i never installed any custom rom.(n it was not me suggested ics b'coz m noob for custom rom)
Market version of cwm is totally different n won't work on note.
there is custom kernel for note, which having same functiin like cwm.
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