Has anyone else had an occasional scrolling lag in situations? It's happened to be on the Program List where the Program icons don't load immediately. Also, most noticeably in apps such as Beezz the scrolling is laggy... Is it just me, or are others experiencing the same...?
Early bump as I'm trying to decide whether a Hard Reset is in order, maybe I installed something that didn't fare too well. Thanks guys.
80% (if not more) of the 3rd apps are NOT optimized (or rushed diplomatically saying) for Windows Phone 7 OS. HTC Hub for example wasn't as fast as the new update for it.
I can make a slight lag (more of a chopping than lag) ONLY IF I visit WPCentral page which chops on my browser than after 4-5 minutes it disappears. So I am pretty sure it's not optimised well rather than a lag because let's face it , the hardware is there and the OS is damn fast.
Have you also experienced start menu icons taking their sweet times to show up?
I've seen some choppiness on 3rd party apps. Agreed that it is a developer issue as they learn how to make apps for wp7. beezz is better than it was, but for best results, m.twitter.com is your best option.
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Have you also experienced start menu icons taking their sweet times to show up?
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In almost 1 month of use, never I have. To continue my initial post, that is one of the reason why I haven't installed many 3rd apps. Personally I hate having a sleek OS and then enter an app and feel like Android.. In fact besides YouTube and Adobe Reader I have only 4 other apps installed.
Same here. I can repeatedly reproduce the program list icon thing by scrolling to the bottom of the list, then hitting the home key, it'll fly to the top of the list and you'll see "white stars" before it switches to the home screen instead of the icons. Happens in random situations too, this is just a consistent occurrence..
I'd like to point out that as a developer, the choppy scrolling is a platform issue with the way Microsoft have design listbox scrolling - Silverlight defaults to virtualising the list box and recycling the listbox items - and this works fine of the PC where there is enough processing power to recycle and virtualise whilst you scroll. However, with Windows Phone 7's limited processing power, and Microsoft's very unoptimised seeming implementation, listboxes can't virtualise data fast enough. Ergo, voodoo is needed to get it working to scroll smoothly You could turn off virtualisation, but then that greatly increases RAM usage, which in Silverlight is already and lot, and then you get comparatively long load & draw & render times, and blargh. There's no one good way to do it yet for long lists - not until Microsoft go and optimise the Silverlight platform better.
I'm assuming the program list icon thing is to save RAM - you can also get it with the Home screen tiles if you have a lot of tiles on it - and saving RAM is something Windows Phone is going to like to do, seeing as the apps and the Silverlight platform use up so much RAM
i had my hd7 for almost a month now and experienced lag on it. there was also an instance that icons of the apps i installed via market place took a few seconds to load up. theres also this occasional slow response time of the unlock screen. i still have 9gb of space though
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Enjoying Taskiller - works very well.
Most users know their apps run better once unnecessary background apps / services have been killed.
Another set of users continue to complain about specific games or apps being laggy without taking steps to solve the problem.
Case in point is the camera application which needs more memory than most and often gets out of memory exceptions.
What would be great is if Taskiller or one of the other task closing apps could create a configurable desktop shortcut that would kill all unneeded apps, then launch a preconfigured app, e.g. camera app.
Users would need to understand that clicking this button to launch another app will lose state in any running apps, but will most likely mean the game or app they then run will have far better performance and be less laggy.
Any takers?
Though im the tiniest bit of confused...
A) If this app TaskKiller (never used) worked so well, whats the need for another?
B) I am also unsure if its absolutely necessary for the android platform. Maybe older phones or WinMo phones (<6.1) have this problem. But as far as I know, android has a garbage collector in which it treats its processes with priority and after a certain utilization, it ends it (for instance. I am playing gameboid, then just hit the home button. I can go back to gameboid fine. But if I open a large app after 'minimizing' gameboid (like opening the htc music player), gameboid will end and I will have to reload it again. Though if I open msgs while gameboid is minimized, gb stays up.
Its supposed to do that. So this request I am not sure if its really necessary.
Killing background apps when memory requires is the theory behind the OS but doesn't always work in practise.
For example, play any game on Android and you'll see occasional judders in the scrolling, etc. - this is usually because a Facebook or Twitter app on the phone has decided that its a good time to get some new notifications ... but that spoils the game experience.
I hate to mention the fruity phone but this is one of the places where it beats Android hands down and their games are in a different league to ours.
I think a way to clear the phone's background processes before launching a game / resource intensive app would make a big difference.
Coming from a previous samsung device (omnia 2) there where some minor annoyances that i hated about the omnia and wonder if its true with the SGS as well since its another samsung device.
1.) Amount of free RAM left for the user/apps? with the omnia 2 which has 256MB of RAM yet usable was only 50MB for the user on stock ROM, which meant you could have maybe 2 apps open at a time.
How much RAM do you guys have on a stock ROM. It very impoarnt i get for stock ROM since most CFW ROMS will have bloatware removed.
2.) volume bumpers, most phones i have owned the volume bumpers act as Next Track and Previous Tack when held down, is this the case with th SGS? it did not work that way on the omnia 2.
3.) Auto closing apps, i hated that so much on the omnia, when ever the RAM got to low it would start randomly closing apps so it dose not display "low memory" message box. I have my music play and open opera and visit a website and bam it closes the music app, or i'm force to restart the phone due to poor memory management by winmo.
4.) Random lockup that either require to turn of and on the phone or yank the battery. Also on the omnia some time it just hangs and not very responsive espically when in a call.
These are just 3 i can think of that really annoyed me, if there is something that annoy's you please share as this will help me to decide if i get the SGS.
which of the 2 vibrants?
i9000m or SGH-T959?
Most of your points are pretty general win mo faults and not samsung.
Ive got the captivate (which is identical to the vibrant) and this is my opinion after 2 days:
* Amount of free Ram hovers anywhere from 90MB - 160MB for me. Ive never had my music player close on me (I think android handles multi tasking differently to Win Mo). I can multi task (think 7 browser tabs, music, facebook updates, gmail sync, news sync, widgets galore, live wallpaper, a few games on freeze) without issue. The only thing Ive noticed is that it does close frozen apps e.g. if it runs low on memory but this happens only to the earliest open app (i.e. if I have opened 15 apps, it will close the very first one which i havent used in awhile).
* Yeah, nah, doesnt skip track like that. Custom headset play pause rewind buttons work though. Get yourself a headset with volume controls but I agree this is only a stopgap measure.
* Power button is always accessible if you have lockups. I have had one lockup due to my metamorph theme not playing nice. Kinda my fauult
* Ive noticed the lag issue that people complain about but to be honest, if youre coming from win mo....its ridiculously over emphasized. Mate, once you use a high end android phone, win mo seems archaic, lethargic and has poor touch implementation. Trust me, I've come from heaps of win mo phones
* GPS? I dont really use it and stick to network location only but hey, Im pretty sure its an issue if you go on roadtrips using google maps.
* The SGS is also quite plasticky and ridiculously light. This can be a plus or minus for you.
* I love having an LED flash which can be used as a torch and I truly miss this
All in all, having used a Nexus one, HTC Hero, Desire, and heaps of win mo phones, I can guarantee youll be pleasantly surprised with android and an SGS phone. Besides, if youre in the USofA , youve got that 30 day return policy anyway. Go into a store and try it all out. Pick whatever suits you
No GPS problems, no lag fix
(accuracy not perfect but close to my real life location and that is good enough for me)
stock JH2
no lag switching between programs, always have GPS CoPilot8 running, Samsung IM, Samsung Social Hub, Fring, 5 account Emails sync, 3 calendar sync, weather sync, 5 contact sync, music player over bluetooth
all running at the same time
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Most of your points are pretty general win mo faults and not samsung.
Ive got the captivate (which is identical to the vibrant) and this is my opinion after 2 days:
* Amount of free Ram hovers anywhere from 90MB - 160MB for me. Ive never had my music player close on me (I think android handles multi tasking differently to Win Mo). I can multi task (think 7 browser tabs, music, facebook updates, gmail sync, news sync, widgets galore, live wallpaper, a few games on freeze) without issue. The only thing Ive noticed is that it does close frozen apps e.g. if it runs low on memory but this happens only to the earliest open app (i.e. if I have opened 15 apps, it will close the very first one which i havent used in awhile).
* Yeah, nah, doesnt skip track like that. Custom headset play pause rewind buttons work though. Get yourself a headset with volume controls but I agree this is only a stopgap measure.
* Power button is always accessible if you have lockups. I have had one lockup due to my metamorph theme not playing nice. Kinda my fauult
* Ive noticed the lag issue that people complain about but to be honest, if youre coming from win mo....its ridiculously over emphasized. Mate, once you use a high end android phone, win mo seems archaic, lethargic and has poor touch implementation. Trust me, I've come from heaps of win mo phones
* GPS? I dont really use it and stick to network location only but hey, Im pretty sure its an issue if you go on roadtrips using google maps.
* The SGS is also quite plasticky and ridiculously light. This can be a plus or minus for you.
* I love having an LED flash which can be used as a torch and I truly miss this
All in all, having used a Nexus one, HTC Hero, Desire, and heaps of win mo phones, I can guarantee youll be pleasantly surprised with android and an SGS phone. Besides, if youre in the USofA , youve got that 30 day return policy anyway. Go into a store and try it all out. Pick whatever suits you
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90-160MB depending on how many apps you have open? how much usable RAM do you guys get after a full restart?
The volume bumpers is a drag, i know i can get a headset that would do it just wish it had that feature. I will miss the LED flash as well one of the biggest flaws in the vibrant.
Hey Guys,
Android multitasks like a boss, unlike iOS it doesn't pause it's apps on pressing the home key, while completely letting it stop running code, but i'm still missing something in android:
For example, when i'm at home and i connect my phone to my speakers in the living room, i sometimes use youtube to play tracks that i don't have on my storage. This works fine but when the track is nearly finished and i switch tabs in the dolphin browser to open another song before the track is over, the playback immediately stops because i changed tabs.
Or when i'm listening to a song on youtube through and i want to go back to the homescreen to open another app, the playback also stops.
I know it drains the battery like crazy if the browser would continue, but i wonder if there isn't an app or something that would let android run a couple of non-system apps at a time once in a while.
I hope you guys know something
Thanks
I have the same issue, and I use the YouTube App. I think it's because Google assume's you're watching the video, not just listening to it.
Radio/Music Apps don't have this limitation. Try any these three FREE Internet Radio stations and you'll be hooked: Pandora Internet Radio, TuneIn Radio, iHeartRadio and Sky.FM Internet Radio.
You can't be serious, Android doesn't have "real multitasking". Not even ICS.
You can separate "Multitasking" into 6 categories.
1) True Multitasking - you can see AND interact with two (or more) RUNNING applications.
2) True Multitasking - you can see two (or more) RUNNING applications, only interact with them one at a time.
3) Multitasking - you can only see and interact with one application but all other applications RUN in the background.
4) Pseudo-Multitasking - you can see and interact with one application but only RUN several applications in the background.
5) Pseudo-Multitasking - you can see and interact with one application and can SAVE STATE (to ram) other applications.
6) No Multitasking - you can see and interact with one application and can see a list of other applications which can be called upon.
The only mobiles that can multitask (that I know of) is the N900/N9/N950, the Blackberry Playbook, Palm Touchpad/Pre/Pixi/etc.
Android can technically do True Multitasking (or even True Multitasking2) but it needs to be hacked and made to do so in a very different way, as Inoxos shows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E1ckOoeRJg&feature=player_embedded
Right now, the best you can get is ICS Pseudo-Multitasking were the core services RUN in the background, you can run a few (6 iirc) applications in the background, and have unlimited* applications SAVE STATE.... and put them into a *Multitasking List* The reason for this move by Google is simple: Battery life. However, for smart users aka power users this is quite intrusive and we rather have True Multitasking because we know what we are doing.
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However, for smart users aka power users this is quite intrusive and we rather have True Multitasking because we know what we are doing.
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I understand your point, but isn't this why Android is open source?
When you buy a device, you are getting a "consumer level" OS, which isn't really configured for power user - this is why the manufacturers go to such lengths to lock down the device.
What I would like to see in Android is the ability to designate a process/application as unkillable by Android task management, so that I can ensure that when I switch task, that process isn't killed. I could achieve this via a custom AOSP build, but I don't want it enough to actually bother doing it myself!
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Dave
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Real multitasking is possible but it must be enabled in the app. I use Igo navigation which can be forced to run in the background, and just today i had navigation running and giving verbal instructions whilst listening to a podcast all while browsing the web. If thats not multitasking i dont know what is.
Saying android cant do real multitasking is rubbish im sorry but thats the nicest way i could have put it. Go back to your iphone lol or learn how to use android properly before making such comments.
Using your definitions there If i can run navigation in the background while using the headset to control the music app and at the same time use the browser normaly what type of multitasking is that? All 3 apps are running simultaniously and I can control 2 apps at once. Whilst this is happening I can be downloading something from the market and answer a phone call.
Nice long post full of crap info you have there.
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Real multitasking is possible but it must be enabled in the app. I use Igo navigation which can be forced to run in the background, and just today i had navigation running and giving verbal instructions whilst listening to a podcast all while browsing the web. If thats not multitasking i dont know what is.
Saying android cant do real multitasking is rubbish im sorry but thats the nicest way i could have put it. Go back to your iphone lol or learn how to use android properly before making such comments.
Using your definitions there If i can run navigation in the background while using the headset to control the music app and at the same time use the browser normaly what type of multitasking is that? All 3 apps are running simultaniously and I can control 2 apps at once. Whilst this is happening I can be downloading something from the market and answer a phone call.
Nice long post full of crap info you have there.
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@martcerv i know android can multitask like that, on an iphone you can let the music play in the background too.. but igo navigation and music are ment to work in the background.. i was wondering if there's a way you can choose yourself what apps you want to run in the background. Because you can't let the browser run in the background
@ekin, will ICS let me to select the browser to be one of the 6 apps that run in the background?
I think its down to each app, by default most aren't enabled to run in the background but the os is capable of it. Even igo will only work in background if you change the advanced settings to work that way.
As mobiles are limited in ram and battery, most app developers trend to disable this feature otherwise lots of people would complain that there system its lagging and battery life is being killed by the app. I'd like to see an option in most aps so people that want it can use it but they will be aware of the possible performance and battery issues.
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I think its down to each app, by default most aren't enabled to run in the background but the os is capable of it. Even igo will only work in background if you change the advanced settings to work that way.
As mobiles are limited in ram and battery, most app developers trend to disable this feature otherwise lots of people would complain that there system its lagging and battery life is being killed by the app. I'd like to see an option in most aps so people that want it can use it but they will be aware of the possible performance and battery issues.
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The solution for that is for android's multitasking capabilities to advance further to the decree of Maemo/WebOS/etc and a smart ux overhaul that makes such process easy.
For instance, look at Win7's Superbar. Many years were spent getting it to its current state, and it handles this problem in a cinch!
@martcev
What you described is Pseudo-Multitasking as I have defined. As stated by another, even iOS does this (but less advanced). If you use a device from a different (multitasking) mobileOS you might actually grasp my comment.
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The solution for that is for android's multitasking capabilities to advance further to the decree of Maemo/WebOS/etc and a smart ux overhaul that makes such process easy.
For instance, look at Win7's Superbar. Many years were spent getting it to its current state, and it handles this problem in a cinch!
@martcev
What you described is Pseudo-Multitasking as I have defined. As stated by another, even iOS does this (but less advanced). If you use a device from a different (multitasking) mobileOS you might actually grasp my comment.
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Kangal, I get you totally.
I recently dropped my N900 on the floor and finally killed it. I chose to get a SGS3 as a replacement because I already got my wife a N9 a while ago so I don't see the point of getting another one. Anyway, I've been trying to find a way to true multitask on my SGS3 like Maemo does but it seems that it's not possible (maybe at least not on stock). I like the SGS3 for its screen and the fact that it can handle videos in pretty much any resolution but I can't help to think that I actually own a "dumbphone" for the fact that it can't true multitask.
I mean, if it can't multitask properly, what's the point of having 4 cores?
there used to be an opensource Window switcher on windows mobile, same maker as wififofum that rocked. its funny it dissapeared and never was implemented for android. That rocked
It indeed is strange that android doesnt have it natively, there are paid solutions on the market thought
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Hey Guys,
Android multitasks like a boss, unlike iOS it doesn't pause it's apps on pressing the home key, while completely letting it stop running code, but i'm still missing something in android:
For example, when i'm at home and i connect my phone to my speakers in the living room, i sometimes use youtube to play tracks that i don't have on my storage. This works fine but when the track is nearly finished and i switch tabs in the dolphin browser to open another song before the track is over, the playback immediately stops because i changed tabs.
Or when i'm listening to a song on youtube through and i want to go back to the homescreen to open another app, the playback also stops.
I know it drains the battery like crazy if the browser would continue, but i wonder if there isn't an app or something that would let android run a couple of non-system apps at a time once in a while.
I hope you guys know something
Thanks
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the only problem with Android's multitasking is that it drains battery. there's so much applications running in background, and i have to manually kill them. to minimize my manually killing these applications, i have to check their settings and for those applications that have sync, i have to increase the sync timing for example from every 5 mins to 24 hours. its a nightmare to go through all my applications (i figured it out late), and it gives me headache when some applications there's no such option!
i know for some applications it is useful for example if u want to download something in a different application while doing something else with another application. but i dont download much(well... its a phone, not a computer). so because of that, i really hate Android's multitask approach. i hope at some point, there's an option where Android can switch multitask configuration, where i would love to use iOS's solution, where they pauses background apps... it would certainly solve S2's battery problem.
Actually android can does allow true multitasking just like on your desktop. It not android that has the limitation, its some of the apps. My wife's SGS2 on gingerbread 2.3.6 can run Aircalc, floating browser & overskreen all on the screen at the exact same time running simultaneously & I can still cycle through my homescreen without minizing anything. This is straight stock right out of the box. Android has had the capability for years, there just hasn't been many apps that take advantage of it. Android is the most powerful, versatile OS out there because the possibilities are endless
lol, just cause an app has a workaround doesnt mean that the OS shouldnt have it natively... thats the issue, it should be natively supported, not random by some genious developers...
If that were true than you can program any app on any os and call the os genious... because a programmer invents something... I remember people building awesome stuff in dos, that didnt make dos awesome lol.
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I made multitasking alot better - even on sense 4.0 and 4.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
Testers welcome.
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I made multitasking alot better - even on sense 4.0 and 4.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
Testers welcome.
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zeppelinrox you rock with yer scripts, automagically lmao
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Popup play its multitasking
I can write here.. Whatsapp, mail while watching videos.. Also power amp running music and do the same.. That's multitasking... Would be cool to let YouTube play the video in the background.. Or save the state of a website when you stop using the browser..
Other than that I don't see any other use
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You're confusing multitasking with a band-aid fix that's good for only one single purpose.
Call it what ever you want.. Multi-tasking(wiki) : "In computing, multitasking is a method where multiple tasks, also known as processes, are performed during the same period of time. The tasks share common processing resources, such as a CPU and main memory"
When ever I can accomplish this no matter what.. This can be called multitasking....
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Back in DOS days you could only run 1 task at a time.. Play a game? Sure but you could not do anything else...
Develop software in gwbasic? Sure but again you can not do anything else.. Copy some files from a diskette to another? Sure but once again you can not do anything else.. Mean no multitasking allowed
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lol some dudes created a shell, in which a windowed environment allowed multitasking
anyways strictly speaking your correct. But then my requirements of multitasking is a bit higher
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multitasking app?
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I made multitasking alot better - even on sense 4.0 and 4.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
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Sounds quite promising. Is it possible to make an app that you can adjust the number of simultaneous tasks allowed. Simiar to, say setting, maximum cpu using gui? I'm sure many people that are not familar with all the inner workings of android would appreciate having this capability.
Thanks for your efforts!
I had Android for a while, and I remember there was an App that broke down Battery/Cpu usage. It would even keep track of how long the screen was on, what was being used most that could potentially be using the battery more.
Ive yet to see an App like this for WP7, let alone 8. Is it even possible? Or is it just yet another thing impossible due to MS lock down on some aspects of the phone OS?
I really do like this OS, but it seems more and more, MS's lock down really hurts development, preventing Devs from really bringing out the most of the OS and prevents functions and abilities youd normally think would exist.
I can understand the want for an app like this (I had it on android myself), but since switching over to WP8 I don't see the need.
All the apps on here run very well and nothing is going crazy like it does with android. Locking down the OS is a good thing sometimes, devs have a much harder tune creating system level apps that run way out of control or have memory leaks that cause battery to run dry in an hour. The only thing I have done is gone to the background apps in settings and stopped what I didn't want running in there.
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I can understand the want for an app like this (I had it on android myself), but since switching over to WP8 I don't see the need.
All the apps on here run very well and nothing is going crazy like it does with android. Locking down the OS is a good thing sometimes, devs have a much harder tune creating system level apps that run way out of control or have memory leaks that cause battery to run dry in an hour. The only thing I have done is gone to the background apps in settings and stopped what I didn't want running in there.
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I initially thought this when I had WP7 and a Trophy. Now that I have the 920, I would love to have this. Partially just to prove out that using my phone (screen on) and games and other things just eats up the battery like crazy. Others over at WPCentral have also posted issues with the battery. Many people have in fact. It would be very useful to some of us who are experiencing issues.
I know some claim to get over a day or more use out of their 920. I, among many others, could only dream of such a thing, or perhaps achieve it if we just didnt do much with our phones.
I disagree on the lock down. While I get your point, having used Android also, I enjoyed many great apps that just wont ever be possible on WP's. No other email clients, no true 3rd party browser not built on IE, no new keyboards to name a few. Some of these apps I had used on Android really were superior to what Ive seen MS do with WP. Which is why I think sometimes 3rd party Devs or home Devs sometimes can just do things better as well as think outside the box and give us real options. You dont get real options for many thing on WP. Everyone is stuck with the same keyboard, browser, mail, messaging client, etc.
True...but remember, there was a time when nothing like that was available for Android either.
Devs have made things more than possible - granted an open system helps - but don't discount what may become available in the future.
Yes there are battery monitor apps for Windows Phone 8. Battery Level for Windows Phone 8 seems to be the most popular. The nice part is that it will autoupdate the live tile with the battery level and you can add it to the lockscreen to show it there as well. It's not quite as in depth as Android with regards to telling you what is pulling the most power but as others have mentioned on WP8 it's a slightly different mechanic than Android as the background processes are a lot more regulated with regards to how they can do that (as are the developers when making their apps). It would be kind of interesting to see something like Android's built-in battery stats but I honestly haven't really haven't had any problems (not that I was really having problems on Android either).
Battery Measure is similar, and has a free version with ads - live tile, graph over time. etc.
and can you tell us where we can get the battery monitor for th WP 8? I want one...
Battery App
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Yes there are battery monitor apps for Windows Phone 8. Battery Level for Windows Phone 8 seems to be the most popular. The nice part is that it will autoupdate the live tile with the battery level and you can add it to the lockscreen to show it there as well. It's not quite as in depth as Android with regards to telling you what is pulling the most power but as others have mentioned on WP8 it's a slightly different mechanic than Android as the background processes are a lot more regulated with regards to how they can do that (as are the developers when making their apps). It would be kind of interesting to see something like Android's built-in battery stats but I honestly haven't really haven't had any problems (not that I was really having problems on Android either).
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That sound very good but where can I get the apps Battery Level?
I get the point that splash screen look good instead of boring black screen ( if app takes time to load). But I am right now an Android user and thinking of switching to Windows Phone 8. On Windows Phone OS, it looks like most app have a splash screen. On Android, there is no splash screen in most apps, they open instantly. But on WP, why don't apps open instantly especially 3rd party apps.
Sometimes I'm in a hurry I just want to use app instantly, so splash screen may be frustrating, don't you feel. On Android and iOS, apps (3rd party also, apps open instantly, hen why not WP8???)
And I've seen videos where they tap on Display + Screen settings and it says "loading..." to load the brightness option. Even in System settings...?? Why??? Lumia 920 has 1.5 GHz processor.
On Windows 8, even the built in Mail app has splash screen which sometimes stays for 3 seconds (sometimes only, mostly it opens in 1 or less seconds)
NOTE: Some may say that I being an Android user just wants to talk bad about WP. But that's NOT true. I love WP, I am just asking this because I want to buy WP8.
I'll Keep my comment on Win 8 short: if an App is closed it takes time to load and Displays a splashscreen. If you Keep it open you can return to it instantly. It's pretty much the same on Android: if an App is closed it takes time to load (at least on my SGS2 it does) if I tap on the Icon again it Returns to the App instantly.
With WP7 the handling of tiles is differently. If you start it from the Live Tile it always creates a new instance of the App. JIT compilation takes place (which takes time) and until that is done the Splashscreen is displayed.
With WP8 the compilation to native is done in the Cloud which makes for a lot faster Startup times. Also developers can now decide to Support the fast resume behavior if launced from the tile (Facebook e.g. supports it and you return instantly - unless you closed the up instead of simply navigating away). By Default WP8 App's Project templates don't even include a Splash Screen anymore (several Apps that have been upgraded from WP/ still retain it though). My two Apps basically Launch instantly even when they are not already in Memory so this no longer is a Problem caused by the System.
As for System Settings. The actual settings of WP8 don't exhibit any problematic Launch behavior. Some OEM Apps are integrating themselves in the Settings menu though and for whatever the reason they sometimes take a Little time to load. I still prefer it if the System tells me that it is loading something instead of the Screen simply blanking. Blanking sometimes though can feel faster.
WP8 apps are still ok. The loading is not that long. But W8 apps take seriously long, especially the store. I think it should be more like the WP8 store app. It lets you open instantly and update the content on the fly. That way it feels more responsive.
Windows 8 apps load so painfully slow because apparently microsoft gave up to something they've been preaching to WP developers for several years: They perform an awful lot of things at application start up. This slows down start up considerably, but also makes the app snappier afterwards.