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Is Cyanogenmod the only Froyo option for the CDMA Hero? I'm thinking of upgrading from the Sprint 2.1 firmware. I have several questions:
Really Important:
Can I downgrade to the original Sprint 2.1 firmware without breaking anything? I really don't want an expensive phone-shaped paperweight if anything goes wrong.
Can I keep the HTC sense UI (I only want the main menu dialer anyway)? I saw that thread saying Sense 2.2 is about 85% done.
Somewhat Important:
Can I install the wifi tethering app on 2.2 Cyanogenmod?
Does Sprint notice if you tether and cut you off?
Do I have to root my phone?
Isn't giving root to potentially malicious apps a bad idea?
Is giving root on a per-request basis?
Can I remove the stupid Sprint boot animation?
archer007 said:
Is Cyanogenmod the only Froyo option for the CDMA Hero? I'm thinking of upgrading from the Sprint 2.1 firmware. I have several questions:
Really Important:
Can I downgrade to the original Sprint 2.1 firmware without breaking anything? I really don't want an expensive phone-shaped paperweight if anything goes wrong. I dont understand this question. You are already on stock firmware. Do you mean if you go to CM6 can you go back to the stock firmware of 2.1?
Can I keep the HTC sense UI (I only want the main menu dialer anyway)? I saw that thread saying Sense 2.2 is about 85% done? the Froyo rom yo usaw is the wildfire port and its in major alpha form right now. There is no fully operational Froyo sense rom for the hero yet
Somewhat Important:
Can I install the wifi tethering app on 2.2 Cyanogenmod? YES im using it right now
Does Sprint notice if you tether and cut you off? NO there is no way for them to see yo u have root and are using it
Do I have to root my phone? YES in order to go to CM6 or any custom rom you need to. ALong with wireless teething
Isn't giving root to potentially malicious apps a bad idea? Of course there is always a risk for anything. Thats why you nandroid before installing anything or before making setting changes.
Is giving root on a per-request basis? YES..superuser will pop up asking for request for any app that asks for request..you can allow or deny
Can I remove the stupid Sprint boot animation?YES, Cyanogenmod CM6 removes the sprint boot logo with e android cyanogen mod one.
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If you have any other questions just ask
t12icky0 said:
Really Important:
Can I downgrade to the original Sprint 2.1 firmware without breaking anything? I really don't want an expensive phone-shaped paperweight if anything goes wrong. I dont understand this question. You are already on stock firmware. Do you mean if you go to CM6 can you go back to the stock firmware of 2.1?
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Yes. I want to make sure I can go back to stock firmware if anything breaks.
archer007 said:
Yes. I want to make sure I can go back to stock firmware if anything breaks.
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And you can All you'd have to do is RUU
If all you want from Sense is the dialer, there is always Dialer One on the Market. I have been running more AOSP-based ROMs than I ever really ran Sense, so when I finally got bored with the stock dialer and gave it a shot, I didn't even notice it was supposed to replicate the Sense dialer, ha. It's a hell of a lot more customizable, and I think it's much "cleaner" looking overall (especially if you have it set to hide the green dial button in the contact list, and NOT have the keypad when the dialer is open by default, and taking up at least half the screen).
That Wildfire port is old. This is the current ongoing 2.2 Sense port, if you're into that sort of thing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834840
Okay, that was exactly what I needed to know, thank you. After reviewing the various pages, are these the correct steps to get 2.2 Cyanogenmod up and running?
Root phone
Backup apps/SMS, etc.
Backup using nandroid
Revert to the 2.1 .5 (NOT .6 or .7) firmware
Flash Cyanogenmod
Restore app/SMS backups
Install GApps, Sprint Apps, Sense port (as needed)
hello the only question i have is about the froyo 2.2. i Installed CyanogenMod-6.1.0-RC1 on my hero 200 and its running great only problem i found that i have is i have no flash support on my browser. what should i download to get my browser back in running order as far as going to most of the sites i used to that had a flash media player embeded? I tried adobe flash 10 but, from what i searched it looks like to me anyway that it wont work with this phone and never will? any ideas on what i should do next
mamba316 said:
hello the only question i have is about the froyo 2.2. i Installed CyanogenMod-6.1.0-RC1 on my hero 200 and its running great only problem i found that i have is i have no flash support on my browser. what should i download to get my browser back in running order as far as going to most of the sites i used to that had a flash media player embeded? I tried adobe flash 10 but, from what i searched it looks like to me anyway that it wont work with this phone and never will? any ideas on what i should do next
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Yes, the Hero really can't install full Flash 10.1 because the default specs just won't handle Flash. Supposedly its possible with some overclocking and/or JIT enabled, but even then most ppl say it's not perfect.
We can install a Flash Lite plugin to browsers....try searching for that either on the market or through Google.
mamba316 said:
hello the only question i have is about the froyo 2.2. i Installed CyanogenMod-6.1.0-RC1 on my hero 200 and its running great only problem i found that i have is i have no flash support on my browser. what should i download to get my browser back in running order as far as going to most of the sites i used to that had a flash media player embeded? I tried adobe flash 10 but, from what i searched it looks like to me anyway that it wont work with this phone and never will? any ideas on what i should do next
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chromiumleaf said:
Yes, the Hero really can't install full Flash 10.1 because the default specs just won't handle Flash. Supposedly its possible with some overclocking and/or JIT enabled, but even then most ppl say it's not perfect.
We can install a Flash Lite plugin to browsers....try searching for that either on the market or through Google.
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Yeah, Flash 10.1 is not possible with the hero
archer007 said:
Okay, that was exactly what I needed to know, thank you. After reviewing the various pages, are these the correct steps to get 2.2 Cyanogenmod up and running?
Root phone
Backup apps/SMS, etc.
Backup using nandroid
Revert to the 2.1 .5 (NOT .6 or .7) firmware
Flash Cyanogenmod
Restore app/SMS backups
Install GApps, Sprint Apps, Sense port (as needed)
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Threadjackers.
I still have the same phone, a year later, and I would love an answer... However, I updated to build
Code:
2.31.651.7 CL258838 release-keys
and baseband
Code:
2.42.01.04.27
Can I use the RUU method and root or would I have to completely reset to Sprint's 2.1 and lose everything? Thanks for putting up with my questions.
archer007 said:
Threadjackers.
I still have the same phone, a year later, and I would love an answer... However, I updated to build
Code:
2.31.651.7 CL258838 release-keys
and baseband
Code:
2.42.01.04.27
Can I use the RUU method and root or would I have to completely reset to Sprint's 2.1 and lose everything? Thanks for putting up with my questions.
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You can root with .7. I used Regaw's last time I did after an ruu to .7 build. There are great Gingerbread roms now. Aosp flavored like Jaybob's Rom which has the newest .35 kernel baked in; cm7 has begun using that kernel in their builds as well ( although it might not be the newest yet). You can download titanium backup to back up apps and data (sms too). Just follow the directions in the op of whatever Rom you are looking to install.
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It worked! That was nice and painless, just don't have your Hero plugged into a USB hub with a dodgy cord like I did. I'm going to go and disable OTA updates as described in the old tutorial. Should I install Cyanogenmod or aosp? It looks like some of the Hero wiki links are pretty dated now, and the only aosp 2.3 link is to a 2.3 aosp labeled unstable and the thread mentioning that the dev quit working on it. I'd love a recommendation on how to get a stable 2.3 install running, I mostly want Exchange sync and tethering.
Id reccomend jaybob rom or kush I'd say jaybob since he still does update from time to time both r still awesome
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Hi I have just bought Motorola Milestone which seems like Vodafone unlocked version. I am new at Android will ask few general questions.
1. How to identify if the phone is rooted or not?
2. Can I flash my phone (Build SHOLS_U2_02.36.0) to Android 2.2 I am currently running 2.1 Update1
3. What should I do before flashing rom?
4. What are Must-Have software applications to "play" (Flash, Overclock, Reconfigure) with on the phone
THANKs
Hi and enjoy your new Milestone..!
1) Check if you have an app "Superuser" installed, with a pirate's icon. If yes, you are Rooted. Or install an app that needs Root and see if it works well.
2) There's no official FroYo ROM yet, we are waiting for it any day now. But you can flash other FroYo ROMs from Milestone Android Development Forum.
3) You should Read carefully..
4) OpenRecovery, RSD Lite, Motorola USB Drivers
Enjoy modding..!
jafargio said:
Hi I have just bought Motorola Milestone which seems like Vodafone unlocked version. I am new at Android will ask few general questions.
3. What should I do before flashing rom?
4. What are Must-Have software applications to "play" (Flash, Overclock, Reconfigure) with on the phone
THANKs
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3. Read up in the forums for the details. In general, you need to
A. Flash vulnerable recovery using RSD (requires MOT usb drivers)
B. Install a new recovery (androidiani is most likely best one for milestone)
C. Install the custom ROM of your choice (most newer roms are froyo based, give you root and already overclocked. My fav is CM6.
4.
In to what I listed above, a few must have (or at least nice to have) apps:
A. Setcpu (overclocking gui and profiles)
B. rootexplorer (file manager with options for root users)
C. Google apps (aka GAPPS). Many roms do need come with the google experience stuff like market and gmail). You need to downlaod seperately.
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Don't want to open another thread, but someone might be able to help me.
Yesterday i got my phone back from repairs (headphone socket) and decided to try the new Sense Rom. Liked it, but performance wasn't to my tastes. i installed the backup from my normal 2.2 ROM.
My question is, for example if i install the iceandfire rom (which i see is being updated all the time), will i have to do a complete reinstall of the ROM every time?
peter9991 said:
Don't want to open another thread, but someone might be able to help me.
Yesterday i got my phone back from repairs (headphone socket) and decided to try the new Sense Rom. Liked it, but performance wasn't to my tastes. i installed the backup from my normal 2.2 ROM.
My question is, for example if i install the iceandfire rom (which i see is being updated all the time), will i have to do a complete reinstall of the ROM every time?
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I am a bit confused...dod you have a milestone. If so, did you mean your 'normal' 2.1 ROM?
The MS does not have 2.2 yet...
In any case, you usually do not need to do a full wipe for incremental versions. I have never tried iceandfire, but CM6 and others work like this. Only major revisions require wipes. Clearing the dalvik cache and cache partition (easy to do from openrecovery) is usually all that is required. This does not impact any of your data...
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sorry, i meant the GOT version.
It seems to be the most vanillaish version out at the moment.
peter9991 said:
sorry, i meant the GOT version.
It seems to be the most vanillaish version out at the moment.
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Ah...well if by vanillaish, you mean stock...there are currently at least 2 leaked versions more recent than GOT. GOT is actually rather old and buggy.
But your point is taken, it is a Motorolaish release. I prefer AOSP (android open source project) based ROMs. Motorola proprietary files are still used (drivers and kernel), but the rest is all open source/ customized.
IMHO, this provides features and stuff people actually want.
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Hi again. I was reading some other posts but I am still confused.
I have no understanding why all these stuff is used for updating ROM on the device.
What is Open Recovery? why is it used and what does Root-ing do?
I also noticed several times in posts saying Nandroid, Downgrading Recovery Partition, sbf recovery....
Can anyone describe what exactly all these things mean and why are they used for?
Thanks.
jafargio said:
Hi again. I was reading some other posts but I am still confused.
I have no understanding why all these stuff is used for updating ROM on the device.
What is Open Recovery? why is it used and what does Root-ing do?
I also noticed several times in posts saying Nandroid, Downgrading Recovery Partition, sbf recovery....
Can anyone describe what exactly all these things mean and why are they used for?
Thanks.
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you should start from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932196
I don't have an folder named nandroid in open recovery.please help.thanks in advance
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vishal18793 said:
I don't have an folder named nandroid in open recovery.please help.thanks in advance
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you have to create it manually...
Please could you give me a detailed explanation. Should I go in quick office, create a new folder, name it nandroid and that's all? Now when I go in recovery menu there if I chose create backup and will it get saved in the folder I've created?
Please help I'm new to rooting and flashing.
Thanks for the reply.
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Hey Guys I put together a Q&A thread for this rom to prevent tons of new threads about rom Spicific questions from new users.. Please feel free to post any questions here.
As Aslways there is no Flaming, name calling or the such.
No question is too noobish, But please look for your answer first.
Now for the info needed to help. In your post make sure to included the version of the rom you are using, modem, kernel, ext...
Also please give it some time for your question to be answered.
Pheonix FAQ
Hi. I'm currently on Phoenix 4.5. If i would like to flash to Phoenix 5.2 or Supernova 2.3, would I need to odin it first or can I just flash it over my current ROM?
Also will I need to clear cache, factory reset, etc before flashing?
Thank you.
oblivianz said:
Hi. I'm currently on Phoenix 4.5. If i would like to flash to Phoenix 5.2 or Supernova 2.3, would I need to odin it first or can I just flash it over my current ROM?
Also will I need to clear cache, factory reset, etc before flashing?
Thank you.
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Really, it's up to you. Some people like to go back to stock. Some don't. I NEVER odin back unless I want to get rid of voodoo quickly. Here is my procedure; boot into CWM recovery, factory reset, clear dalvik cache, install rom. I have never had any problems with this method.
yay! a dedicated Q&A!
maybe here ill get a better answer regarding this:
thanks for answering, although it may be true, i have a feeling that it isnt exactly correct for some of the questions i asked. can any one else comment/confirm?
All captivates are not created equally. Meaning you could have two side by side and flash both with the same rom and have one perform better with it than the other. So its all about finding what works best for you
Originally Posted by Trusselo
damn it i just flashed the darkfire blue theme last night!
redo....
i feel dumb asking but ive been wondering for a while, and havent found a clear answer,
can someone explain what the advantage of having a jpy and a js5 version is?
whats the difference? different base rom ya, but whats different? and why do some people prefer one over the other even when they are torn appart and customized anyway? is it a regional thing?
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new phoenix 5.2
2 questions:
1. What's the difference between the regular download and js5 base?
2. How is the overall speed and stability?
Thanks!
oblivianz said:
Hi. I'm currently on Phoenix 4.5. If i would like to flash to Phoenix 5.2 or Supernova 2.3, would I need to odin it first or can I just flash it over my current ROM?
Also will I need to clear cache, factory reset, etc before flashing?
Thank you.
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majinzen said:
Really, it's up to you. Some people like to go back to stock. Some don't. I NEVER odin back unless I want to get rid of voodoo quickly. Here is my procedure; boot into CWM recovery, factory reset, clear dalvik cache, install rom. I have never had any problems with this method.
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As for me, I disable lag-fix, always Odin back to JF6, Master Clear, then install my new ROM. In the end it's up to you. I've rarely had any issues while doing my flashes this way. majinzen may rarely have any issues doing it his way.
I can only tell you what works for me.
FC from Test-to-speech settings
I'm getting an FC when clicking "Text-to-speech settings" in the "Voice input and output" settings. Anyone else confirm this?
I'm using 5.2 JS5. I did flash to stock and MC before installing (twice).
EDIT: 5.2 JPY does not have this problem.
drothenberger said:
I'm getting an FC when clicking "Text-to-speech settings" in the "Voice input and output" settings. Anyone else confirm this?
I'm using 5.2 JS5. I did flash to stock and MC before installing (twice).
EDIT: 5.2 JPY does not have this problem.
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if you want that feature you will need to grab the tts.apk from another ROM and put it in system/app.
h0ckey10 said:
2 questions:
1. What's the difference between the regular download and js5 base?
2. How is the overall speed and stability?
Thanks!
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Regular link is JPY and JS5 link is well, JS5.
Speed on regular is awesome and speed on JS5 is even better. Battery is not an issue on either for me and many others. Keep in mind your results may vary depending on use, modem and kernel should you choose to change it.
adamholden85 said:
drothenberger said:
I'm getting an FC when clicking "Text-to-speech settings" in the "Voice input and output" settings. Anyone else confirm this?
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if you want that feature you will need to grab the tts.apk from another ROM and put it in system/app.
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Thanks, Adam! I grabbed PicoTts.apk from Darky's v9.3B1 and that solved my problem.
no Bootani anymore
ok so im a bit of a novice flash whore but ive not seen this , i downloaded Pr 5.2JS5, then upgraded the new "c' kernal, all doing well except i cant get the tts.apk to install (stole it from FF 2.2), (ohwell) but i changed my bootani to the new "ashes" via renaming and putting in system/media (overwrite).. now i have nothing....its pauses with a black screen for the alotted time as is there would be one, then it loads the home screen. i tried to revert to the original one by downloading it from -hq , but same result ... did i screw up?
EDIT: This Q&A is a nice touch , i read the hell outa the dev forums, but still have some basic questions now and again .. Thanks!!
Edit: so i pulled the original Bootani from the system/media from a copy on my pc and reapplied it and it works , there may be an issue with the compatability of the "add ons" boot animations at phoenix-hq and the current version "5.2' at the moment , so i guess patience is in order....still having force closes after applying the ttsservice.apk to the rom from other roms..... force closes.
edit: so i hope this helps someone else cause its makin me look like an idiot....the file need for the "Voice input/output" in the settings to stop FC's is "PicoTts.apk", i stole it from the "PR 5.2 JSY" and placed it in the "PR 5.2 JS4"...works fine now! .. but i hear that "adam" isnt going to be supporting the JS4 build any longer....sheesh. lol
I love 4.5 but I have one problem, bluetooth does not want to pair with my Ford sync system, any suggestions or changes I can make? I have tried every thing I can think of but it will not find my phone.
[Q] Phone Call Recorder
I am getting ready to flash Phoenix 5.2. Really like Adam's Roms. however I keep seeing more roms with the call recording in the phone dialer. Does anyone know of a way to transport that feature into Phoenix?
Is it just a matter of grabbing the phone.apk?
Is it even worth it?
Any input is appreciated on the matter. I want to try it but not enough to pull me away from Phoenix, Firefly, or Supernova.
A real noob
I am new to the droid phone, and i have flashed my phone to froyo 2.2. I really like to go to the phoenix rom but have a few questions.
1. I am a very visual person and was wondering if there are any videos on how to install phoenix to captivate phone.
2. I looked at the options for phoenix and still did not see if phoenix supports playing call through car speakers, which is why i'm changing roms in the first place.
3 Which phoenix version would be best suitable for a noob.
Hey,I'm using Phoenix since 2.5 now i'm on 5.2 and it's the best rom I've flashed.The problem is I'm backup everything using Titanium Backup since 3.5 (all apps+system data).Before crossing from 4.5 to 5.2 I've backup everything and then restore all of them.Will this mess up my rom ? I didn't found any problems yet.
Sorry for my bad English
ck9035 said:
Hey,I'm using Phoenix since 2.5 now i'm on 5.2 and it's the best rom I've flashed.The problem is I'm backup everything using Titanium Backup since 3.5 (all apps+system data).Before crossing from 4.5 to 5.2 I've backup everything and then restore all of them.Will this mess up my rom ? I didn't found any problems yet.
Sorry for my bad English
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General rule of thumb is to back up your user apps and data, but do NOT restore your system settings(data).
Wraith04 said:
I love 4.5 but I have one problem, bluetooth does not want to pair with my Ford sync system, any suggestions or changes I can make? I have tried every thing I can think of but it will not find my phone.
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Are you able to pair the phone with other bluetooth devices? I'm not familiar with Ford sync or the process for pairing with one... could you describe briefly the normal steps you take to pair to it?
dstewart4520 said:
I am new to the droid phone, and i have flashed my phone to froyo 2.2. I really like to go to the phoenix rom but have a few questions.
1. I am a very visual person and was wondering if there are any videos on how to install phoenix to captivate phone.
2. I looked at the options for phoenix and still did not see if phoenix supports playing call through car speakers, which is why i'm changing roms in the first place.
3 Which phoenix version would be best suitable for a noob.
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Just to be clear... you've already flashed your Captivate to a 2.2 ROM? If so, which one are you on currently?
1. I don't know of any videos specific to flashing phoenix, however there are videos available on the forums that demonstrate the flashing process (which you've apparently already done once). The process is fairly straight forward even when just following written instructions.
2. Are you talking about playing your call via a built in phone system (such as the previously mentioned sync?)
3. All the Phoenix ROMs have been solid, so I would always recommend going with the latest.
circuitjerker said:
ok so im a bit of a novice flash whore but ive not seen this , i downloaded Pr 5.2JS5, then upgraded the new "c' kernal, all doing well except i cant get the tts.apk to install (stole it from FF 2.2), (ohwell) but i changed my bootani to the new "ashes" via renaming and putting in system/media (overwrite).. now i have nothing....its pauses with a black screen for the alotted time as is there would be one, then it loads the home screen. i tried to revert to the original one by downloading it from -hq , but same result ... did i screw up?
EDIT: This Q&A is a nice touch , i read the hell outa the dev forums, but still have some basic questions now and again .. Thanks!!
Edit: so i pulled the original Bootani from the system/media from a copy on my pc and reapplied it and it works , there may be an issue with the compatability of the "add ons" boot animations at phoenix-hq and the current version "5.2' at the moment , so i guess patience is in order....still having force closes after applying the ttsservice.apk to the rom from other roms..... force closes.
edit: so i hope this helps someone else cause its makin me look like an idiot....the file need for the "Voice input/output" in the settings to stop FC's is "PicoTts.apk", i stole it from the "PR 5.2 JSY" and placed it in the "PR 5.2 JS4"...works fine now! .. but i hear that "adam" isnt going to be supporting the JS4 build any longer....sheesh. lol
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I haven't totally ruled it out as there are small differences. Who knows, I am working on my new ROM Orange Chicken, ATM.
JoeDV said:
Just to be clear... you've already flashed your Captivate to a 2.2 ROM? If so, which one are you on currently?
1. I don't know of any videos specific to flashing phoenix, however there are videos available on the forums that demonstrate the flashing process (which you've apparently already done once). The process is fairly straight forward even when just following written instructions.
2. Are you talking about playing your call via a built in phone system (such as the previously mentioned sync?)
3. All the Phoenix ROMs have been solid, so I would always recommend going with the latest.
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I'm on Froyo.ucji6 currently.
I'm also having trouble with my droid explorer. Do i really need that to flash or can i use something different. And just to let you know i really do appreciate you taking the time to help a noob out, really. I have researched this but everytime i have tried it, it does not work. I think i have messed up my vcard cause i'm getting an error when trying to import contacts to my phone so i'm just trying to find the easiest way to do this. So thanks now, thanks later for your help.
Hey Guys I put together a Q&A thread for this rom to prevent tons of new threads about rom Spicific questions from new users.. Please feel free to post any questions here.
As Aslways there is no Flaming, name calling or the such.
No question is too noobish, But please look for your answer first.
Now for the info needed to help. In your post make sure to included the version of the rom you are using, modem, kernel, ext...
Also please give it some time for your question to be answered.
Great idea Zel, I am here to help.
I will try to answer the questions the best I can and then have a list of FAQ in this post so people can easily access them.
FAQ
How to flash FireFly? (Method one)
BACK UP!!!
Flash to stock (FTS)
Wait for your phone to reboot and then re-enable debugging
Hook phone back up to pc and Master Clear (MC) using Odin
Load Clockwork update.zip (DOWNLOAD)
Load FireFly_X-X.zip to phone memory
Remove sim and external SD, and unplug USB
Boot into recovery and reinstall packages (You may have to reinstall packages twice to get to Clockwork recovery)
Once in Clockwork recovery (Green Text), select install zip from SDcard
Next select choose zip from sdcard
Scroll down to FireFly_X-X.zip and select the file
This will run the script and install the ROM to your phone
After this is done, select go back and then select reboot phone
This may take a while, so leave your phone and go grab a snack!
How to flash FireFly? (Method two) - the one I usually do
Load ROM file onto phone
Boot into recovery
Select ROM and flash it
Reboot, wait and enjoy
Wash, rinse, repeat!
xtremekilla09 said:
Great idea Zel, I am here to help.
I will try to answer the questions the best I can and then have a list of FAQ in this post so people can easily access them.
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I was thinking the same thing for the FAQ.
ok..lemme do the honors....quick ques...am flashing firefly 2.2(downloading it now)....i flashed back to stock JF6...do i need to flash to some base ROM for firefly 2.2 to work??
I'm asking cause i was on darky8.1, then flashed directly to 9.3b1 which resulted in incorrect orientation(i9000), then i read the instructions which expected me to flash to base(resurrection), then flash a captivate fix and then flash to 9.3b1...!!!!
You should be able to flash directly as long as you flash FF 2.2 full not the update package.
neo_31591 said:
ok..lemme do the honors....quick ques...am flashing firefly 2.2(downloading it now)....i flashed back to stock JF6...do i need to flash to some base ROM for firefly 2.2 to work??
I'm asking cause i was on darky8.1, then flashed directly to 9.3b1 which resulted in incorrect orientation(i9000), then i read the instructions which expected me to flash to base(resurrection), then flash a captivate fix and then flash to 9.3b1...!!!!
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neo_31591 said:
ok..lemme do the honors....quick ques...am flashing firefly 2.2(downloading it now)....i flashed back to stock JF6...do i need to flash to some base ROM for firefly 2.2 to work??
I'm asking cause i was on darky8.1, then flashed directly to 9.3b1 which resulted in incorrect orientation(i9000), then i read the instructions which expected me to flash to base(resurrection), then flash a captivate fix and then flash to 9.3b1...!!!!
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Nope, you can download the FF 2.2 from the site. LINK
Pick any one of the mirrors. This will get you FF2.2 with the clock in the status bar.
If you want to remove the clock, you can flash the no clock package.
EDIT: Spaz beat me to it. Thx Spaz.
ok cool..thanks!! lookin forward to enjoy this ROM
..its really irritatin to have to flash to base ROM's and then flash to the updated ROM's....
@xtremekilla09
thanks!! downloading NOW!
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Hey Guys I put together a Q&A thread for this rom to prevent tons of new threads about rom Spicific questions from new users.. Please feel free to post any questions here.
As Aslways there is no Flaming, name calling or the such.
No question is too noobish, But please look for your answer first.
Now for the info needed to help. In your post make sure to included the version of the rom you are using, modem, kernel, ext...
Also please give it some time for your question to be answered.
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I flash to FireFly 2.2 and its looks awesome + I've been looking for a ROM that had the fix for when I connect the AUX cable to the car radio I can talk to anyone on the phone and hear them on the car speakers... This ROM has that fix finally, I love it... no more Blutooth head sets. But I have a big issue and is that when I make my 3rd or 4th reboot my phone freeze on the "F" boot logo. It does that vibrating action once and then twice like when there's an error. I have flashed my phone before so many times and had no issues and I have been using all FireFly ROM's ever since It came to life. This 2.2 ROM I have flashed like 4 times and I keep having the same problem and I don't want to flash any other ROM only but this one. What can be the reason for this problem? Please Help!
neo_31591 said:
ok..lemme do the honors....quick ques...am flashing firefly 2.2(downloading it now)....i flashed back to stock JF6...do i need to flash to some base ROM for firefly 2.2 to work??
I'm asking cause i was on darky8.1, then flashed directly to 9.3b1 which resulted in incorrect orientation(i9000), then i read the instructions which expected me to flash to base(resurrection), then flash a captivate fix and then flash to 9.3b1...!!!!
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I you are on stock already just flash FF and you will be good to go!
[email protected] said:
I flash to FireFly 2.2 and its looks awesome + I've been looking for a ROM that had the fix for when I connect the AUX cable to the car radio I can talk to anyone on the phone and hear them on the car speakers... This ROM has that fix finally, I love it... no more Blutooth head sets. But I have a big issue and is that when I make my 3rd or 4th reboot my phone freeze on the "F" boot logo. It does that vibrating action once and then twice like when there's an error. I have flashed my phone before so many times and had no issues and I have been using all FireFly ROM's ever since It came to life. This 2.2 ROM I have flashed like 4 times and I keep having the same problem and I don't want to flash any other ROM only but this one. What can be the reason for this problem? Please Help!
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That is quite a strange problem.
Lets try to troubleshoot it.
Did you install any third party app that needs to load at startup?
Did apply any themes?
Glad to have this open since i cant post on the original thread yet
Sent from my Captivate running FIREFLY 2.2
Q: is hsupa enabled on this rom? also i'm in australia using 850/2100 wcdma could there be any issues with this modem?
thanks, i'm super excited about ff..... it will be my first flash.
haven't even recieved my phone yet but i'm already obsessed!
A: ok, JK4 hsupa positive. oops forgot about the modem thread. still any word on 2100 would help.
thanks
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Did you install any third party app that needs to load at startup?
Did apply any themes?
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Not sure! but the only one I can think of would be "Launcher Pro", but I have always used it, and this problem has never happened. When you install it, you need to reboot again in order for Launcher to take effect. I do need to point out that before this flash I when to stock with Odin. I never have the need to do this cause I use too flash directly from "Rom Manager" but lately I was noticing that when I flash using ROM Manager It wasn't taking me to the green menu, it was taking me to what I think it was the stock menu with blue, yellow and a red letters where red was an error message,so that's why I decided to go to stock and then I did all the steps needed in order to flash a New ROM using the thread from the development section then I flash FF 2.2 and ever since when I boot like for the third or fourth time it freezes. I hope for a solution... I'm only digging FireFly right now cause lets face it...
Thanks a lot for your attention...
Several Questions
I've been using Firefly since it came out and upgraded to 2.2 last week. I do have a couple questions after having used 2.2 for awhile.
1. Why were the dark apps removed (gmail & market)? It seems like Firefly has a darker theme and using the modified apps as default makes sense. Maybe a CWM zip containing all the dark apps would be an option or links to the forum pages? I was able to find dark versions of Gmail, Voice, Gtalk, and the Market by searching, but I think it would make more sense from a theming sense for these to be included by default.
2. What's the best way to remove the Samsung Apps? I flashed the zip and messed around with it a bit, but realized I don't need it. You can't uninstall it like normal apps so I was thinking about removing it with TiBu, but I don't want to mess something up. Suggestions?
3. I searched around the forums, but I haven't been able to find a simple answer to this: does this rom support call recording? Is this a kernel issue or simply a rom feature that Firefly hasn't implemented? If this is something simple to do without losing theming, I have no problem with that, if not consider this a feature request.
4. Not sure if this is a Firefly issue or an ESPN issue, but since flashing 2.2 my ScoreCenter app keeps reverting to the user Tron98001. I don't know who this is or how it got on my phone, but it keeps changing all my settings. Everytime I delete the app and wipe the data, it defaults to that same user when I install it again. If I change the user and settings, within about a day it reverts back. Again, I'm thinking this is an ESPN issue, but I was just wondering if anybody was having the same issue since I didn't have a problem until upgrading to 2.2.
You can always try different modems, to see which one works best for you.
fractaline said:
Q: is hsupa enabled on this rom? also i'm in australia using 850/2100 wcdma could there be any issues with this modem?
thanks, i'm super excited about ff..... it will be my first flash.
haven't even recieved my phone yet but i'm already obsessed!
A: ok, JK4 hsupa positive. oops forgot about the modem thread. still any word on 2100 would help.
thanks
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Hmmm, lets see if other members can shed some light on this as well.
[email protected] said:
Not sure! but the only one I can think of would be "Launcher Pro", but I have always used it, and this problem has never happened. When you install it, you need to reboot again in order for Launcher to take effect. I do need to point out that before this flash I when to stock with Odin. I never have the need to do this cause I use too flash directly from "Rom Manager" but lately I was noticing that when I flash using ROM Manager It wasn't taking me to the green menu, it was taking me to what I think it was the stock menu with blue, yellow and a red letters where red was an error message,so that's why I decided to go to stock and then I did all the steps needed in order to flash a New ROM using the thread from the development section then I flash FF 2.2 and ever since when I boot like for the third or fourth time it freezes. I hope for a solution... I'm only digging FireFly right now cause lets face it...
Thanks a lot for your attention...
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Devo7v said:
I've been using Firefly since it came out and upgraded to 2.2 last week. I do have a couple questions after having used 2.2 for awhile.
1. Why were the dark apps removed (gmail & market)? It seems like Firefly has a darker theme and using the modified apps as default makes sense. Maybe a CWM zip containing all the dark apps would be an option or links to the forum pages? I was able to find dark versions of Gmail, Voice, Gtalk, and the Market by searching, but I think it would make more sense from a theming sense for these to be included by default.
2. What's the best way to remove the Samsung Apps? I flashed the zip and messed around with it a bit, but realized I don't need it. You can't uninstall it like normal apps so I was thinking about removing it with TiBu, but I don't want to mess something up. Suggestions?
3. I searched around the forums, but I haven't been able to find a simple answer to this: does this rom support call recording? Is this a kernel issue or simply a rom feature that Firefly hasn't implemented? If this is something simple to do without losing theming, I have no problem with that, if not consider this a feature request.
4. Not sure if this is a Firefly issue or an ESPN issue, but since flashing 2.2 my ScoreCenter app keeps reverting to the user Tron98001. I don't know who this is or how it got on my phone, but it keeps changing all my settings. Everytime I delete the app and wipe the data, it defaults to that same user when I install it again. If I change the user and settings, within about a day it reverts back. Again, I'm thinking this is an ESPN issue, but I was just wondering if anybody was having the same issue since I didn't have a problem until upgrading to 2.2.
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1. There were too many bugs involved with the dark apps. I decided that it is best to include stock and let users decide based on their preference.
2. I will have to create a CWM zip that takes care of this. It is not as simple as uninstalling.
3. This ROM does not have call recording. It is considered illegal in many states, to record calls without consent of the other part. I just want to stay away from the mess. Users can install that option on their own.
4. That definitely looks like an app issue.
I believe my ROM is more toward the neutral side and I dont wont to force themed apps (that are buggy) or features that can get them in trouble.
I am just being honest.
Let me know if there are more questions.
As FF is rogers based, can it support usb audio out through the car dock? I downloaded the rogers car dock app and no joy. Changed the kernel to FB2, which should have the fix, and still no joy.
Thanks for the amazing rom though!
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App
[email protected] said:
Not sure! but the only one I can think of would be "Launcher Pro", but I have always used it, and this problem has never happened. When you install it, you need to reboot again in order for Launcher to take effect. I do need to point out that before this flash I when to stock with Odin. I never have the need to do this cause I use too flash directly from "Rom Manager" but lately I was noticing that when I flash using ROM Manager It wasn't taking me to the green menu, it was taking me to what I think it was the stock menu with blue, yellow and a red letters where red was an error message,so that's why I decided to go to stock and then I did all the steps needed in order to flash a New ROM using the thread from the development section then I flash FF 2.2 and ever since when I boot like for the third or fourth time it freezes. I hope for a solution... I'm only digging FireFly right now cause lets face it...
Thanks a lot for your attention...
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I did run into this problem when I flashed Fire Fly 2.2. The only way around it was to uninstall Launcher Pro and then install it again. I am not sure what caused the problem but this did solve it for me. The one downside of this is that all the screen setups that I had got removed. But that is minor to me since I move things around all the time any way.
wpp105 said:
As FF is rogers based, can it support usb audio out through the car dock? I downloaded the rogers car dock app and no joy. Changed the kernel to FB2, which should have the fix, and still no joy.
Thanks for the amazing rom though!
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App
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That fix is still in the works in Xcal's kernel. We will have to wait till it is implemented all around.
Thanks for your quick response. I'll wait for the CWM zip to remove the Samsung Apps. I understand the legallity of call recording and it is something I just wanted to try out, anyways I have a follow up question then: if I apply the phone.apk and libs I found (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=938860) would I lose the theming of the dialer that comes with Firefly by default? Do you know of any reason why this wouldn't work?
xtremekilla09 said:
1. There were too many bugs involved with the dark apps. I decided that it is best to include stock and let users decide based on their preference.
2. I will have to create a CWM zip that takes care of this. It is not as simple as uninstalling.
3. This ROM does not have call recording. It is considered illegal in many states, to record calls without consent of the other part. I just want to stay away from the mess. Users can install that option on their own.
4. That definitely looks like an app issue.
I believe my ROM is more toward the neutral side and I dont wont to force themed apps (that are buggy) or features that can get them in trouble.
I am just being honest.
Let me know if there are more questions.
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Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
chaoscreater said:
Hi all, in a couple of days time I will be receiving my first ever Android device, the Motorola Milestone. I've already done some research on the phone as well as on Android itself, and understood most of the necessary basics. However, there are still many things I don't understand quite yet, and would like some help with clarifying them.
My first question is regarding the custom roms. I myself have been a long time user of Windows Mobile so I know most of the stuff that is relevant to Android as well. From what I know, the bootloader on the Milestone is still locked, but people have found ways to load custom roms on it. Can someone link me to the guide on how to do this? Now before someone tell me to search on the forum or on Google (which I already have), I just want to point out that the ones I found seemed to be outdated, and that they're for older Android versions??
My 2nd question is, do custom roms like IceandFire or Froyomod come with their own custom kernels? Because I want to be able to overclock my phone, and if it comes installed with its own kernel then I don't want to risk bricking it by flashing another kernel on top of it......I hope that makes sense??
3rd question is, which rom is the best for speed and battery? I'm guessing it's IceandFire and it builds upon the latest CM7?
And lastly, are there any crucial apps that you guys recommend I should install, or any tweaks etc I should use?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983516
This is still the best way to get a custom ROM loaded up onto your phone. What you want to start with is flashing the vulnerable recovery from http://android.doshaska.net/rootable by using RSD Lite. To do so, you need to put the phone into Bootloader mode (power+Dpad-up) You can google RSD Lite, make sure you use the latest version along with the latest USB Driver version from Motorola.
RSD Lite is a very finicky program, if you have any errors flashing, your best bet would be to try this post: http://androidforums.com/droid-all-...hing-process-0x7100-rsd-lite.html#post1274587
Once you flash the VR (vulnerable recovery), you will want to put OpenRecovery on your SD Card. I recommend using OR 1.46 and placing FuFu's minimod on the SD Card as well. It will overwrite existing files in OR (look for it in Milestone Development). From here you can root the phone in OR (by using power+x, then camera+volume up) and reboot, backup all data you want saved, before flashing a ROM.
Once that is done, get the custom ROM that you want (I find speed + battery can be Cronos, CM7 or FroyoMOD for a Froyo ROM) and place it in OpenRecovery/updates. You will also want the most up-to-date version of Google Apps for Cronos or any Gingerbread ROM (except MIUI).
Gapps: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110613-signed.zip
Now, turn the phone off, and put it into recovery mode (power+x, then camera+volume up), select apply update.zip and you are now into OpenRecovery.
Here is where you will flash your custom ROM and Gapps. Wipe both cache partition and dalvik cache, then wipe all data. Select Apply Update under Miscellaneous Menu and select the ROM you want. Once it is done, wipe both caches (not data) and flash Gapps. Wipe caches again. Finally, change the baseband to your country and reboot.
The first reboot will take a while, as the ROM is configuring itself for first time use.
That is how to flash a custom ROM and get started.
2- Custom kernels are not available for Milestone, as our bootloader is locked. Overclocking the phone is done through the 10overclock file in system/etc/init.d . All ROMs that I know of are overclock, most to 1GHz (from 550MHz). You will not be able to flash any kernels, and DO NOT try ROM Manager, it will temporarily brick your phone.
Crucial apps, I would say are Root Explorer, TitaniumBackup. Those are the two that are very useful for root users, if you flash multiple ROMs or need to access system files.
Hope this helped.
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
chaoscreater said:
awesome, thanks for the reply mate!
Hmm 2 things i'm confused with. Isn't there an app called "Milestone Overclock" that lets u overclock without installing custom kernels?
Also, from what I know you need to have the bootloader unlocked in order to install custom roms. I already know that Motorola is still keeping the bootloader locked and that as of now, there isn't a way to unlock it. Then how come we can install custom roms?
Also, since you mentioned ROM Manager, I did a quick search and it seems to be able to manage multiple custom rom installs that you have. But then you said don't try it or it will brick the phone, so I don't understand whether I can install it or not?? Personally, I love testing out different roms as well as new builds. It would be nice to dual boot or choose between different roms to use. But i'm not sure whether I want to go forward with this since your comment implies to me that I shouldn't install Rom Manager?
Lastly, this is the part I found most confusing with Android (or with Windows Mobile as well). I found some guides that tells you to install Clockwork Recovery Mod or something like that. Some of them even mentioned using Nandroid or something. There seems to be different methods & tools/softwares for different devices (or even the same device) and it can be confusing to keep up with them. My question is, are there major differences between them? Which one is better and should I keep them up to date?
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I have tried Milestone Overclock, but I never really used it to overclock the phone. I prefer changing the voltages and speeds with the 10overclock file. If you read the description of Milestone overclock, it "tricks" the kernel into thinking it's supposed to run at a certain speed.
ROM Manager and Clockwork Recovery Mod do not work on Milestone. The only recovery that works with the Milestone is OpenRecovery or Androidiani OpenRecovery. Unfortunately, the only way to flash the ROMs is through OR or AOR, so you will have to repeat the processes every single time. I have gotten used to where all of the options are for FuFu's Minimod, so I am able to do it quite efficiently
The best way to backup a ROM, system data and the such is by Nandroid backup. That is the only sort of backup that you can do. It is recommended to do one every time you flash a custom ROM, but I only did it after I rooted and before I flashed my first custom ROM. You can do it through OR. That is the only way that will work. CWM and ROM Manager will just temp brick the phone and you will have to reflash a stock SBF all over again.
i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
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i see.....in that case there's no way to install 2 different roms to allow dual booting then? What about the app "Boot Manager", will that work? I found it on this site here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ted-user-should-know-about-part-4-apps-26-33/
One last question, I came across this popular app that is recommended by many Android users, called Apps2SD. My understanding to this is that by default, any apps/games that you install on your device will install to the internal memory, and that this Apps2SD app basically lets you install to your memory card? So my question is, does this lag the phone somehow? I like to have many apps and especially games installed on my phone, would doing this affect the performance or something? I know this is the case for Windows Mobile, but not sure about Android.....
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I follow AndroidPolice as well. I don't know about Boot Manager, I heard about it, but I haven't heard any reviews of it yet.
Two things when it comes to phone storage and apps on the Milestone: Old hardware makes for a lot of games to not work at all, and low phone storage space.
Almost every ROM comes with apps2ext support, which is a more advanced version of Apps2SD. You can follow this tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10994672&postcount=226
Apps2ext will trick your phone into thinking space on the SD Card (the ext partition) is actually part of the phone's internal memory. You will be able to get a lot more apps on the phone this way.
Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
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Ahh cool, that saves me the trouble of me having to install an extra tweak.
Hmm I know Milestone is old, but not that old is it?? I don't know of any games now days that require heavy hardware specs or anything......i'm just hoping that emulators will work fine on it. I mean, my iPod Touch 3rd Gen only has about 120MB of free RAM, and the CPU is crap as hell and yet I could run GBA games like Pokemon or Golden Sun fine no problem (with sound of course). I'm hoping it'll at least work smoothly on the Milestone since I'll be attempting to overclock it to 1Ghz, which should run it significantly faster in theory.
BTW I found this great tweak for the CM7, here's the link:
http://chromloop.com/2011/07/how-to-make-cyanogenmod-7-for-milestone-a853-lighter-and-faster/
are there any ones similar to this? I'm a tweak junkie addict, I like to make my device run as smooth and as fast as possible. When I still had my HTC Touch Pro and Xperia X1, and even Nokia N900 (which uses Maemo 5), I tweaked the crap out of them and got more juice and power and made its performance so much better. I'm hoping I can at least do the same for the Milestone, except I couldn't seem to find many tweaks...
Oh lastly, I know one of the big problems with Android is fragmentation. There're already some apps out there in the Android market that are exclusive to certain Android versions. The same app has a version for Froyo (v2.2) and Gingerbread (v2.3). This is true for some of the mods or tweaks on XDA. So my question is, are custom roms like CM7 using Gingerbread? I'm guessing yes since it says 2.3.5? In that case, would I be able to simply install the latest mod/tweak or apps/games from XDA or the Android market? Or must I find the versions that is identical to mine?
E.g. if I install CM7, can I still install a mod that is for Froyo?
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Of course you still can. The best tweak for Milestone is under Android Hacking, it's zeppelinrox's supercharger script, which you run through Script Manager. That's the best you can get.
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I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
chaoscreater said:
I thought custom roms like CM7 or IceandFire come with the supercharger script included?
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Some do, such as HO!NO!, but not all of them do.
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Ok so I finally got my Milestone today!
I'm about to start rooting it and install CM7 on it. But before I do that, I have one important question. I know for Windows Mobile, almost all of the device requires you to do a hard reset after flashing a custom rom. I was wondering if the same needs to be applied to Android custom roms? Because it doesn't seem like it, I did a quick Google search and found this:
http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-...4-do-not-factory-reset-your-rooted-phone.html
So ya I'm not sure....
UPDATE:
Ok so I got my Milestone rooted, and installed CM7 on it. I came across a weird problem while doing it though. First of all, I'm using a 8GB Kingston microSD class 2, and it's brand new and hasn't been used before, so it obviously has nothing stored on it as it's empty to begin with. Ok, so as I followed the instructions, the first step is obviously rooting the Milestone, so I simply copied OpenRecovery to the memory card while my Milestone was connected to my PC. The weird thing is, when I opened "My Computer", I didn't see my memory card. Instead, I see "Milestone", so I opened it and then I see my memory card "Removeable Storage". I opened it again and here's the actual weird part, there're 2 files stored in it, called:
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At first, I didn't think it was a problem because I thought they were just some dummy file or something. Also, the memory card is empty other than those 2 files. So after copying OpenRecovery to it and rooting it successfully, I then proceed to copy the CM7 custom rom file to the memory card. But this time, I still see the same thing. I don't see my OpenRecovery folder on it at all, there're no other files other than those 2 files on it. I tried Unmount and Mount in the SD Card settings, also unplugging my USB cable and re-plugging back in but it's the same. In fact, after 'Unmounting' the memory card, I couldn't even access it on "My Computer", as nothing shows up after I open "Milestone". Only 'Mounting' works, but again I only see those 2 files and nothing else.
HOWEVER, I then tried to take out the memory card and use my own microSD card reader, and bam I can see all the files on it, such as OpenRecovery and even the nanDroid backup that I made while following the instructions on that guide. So this is weird, why can't I access or see the contents on my memory card while the phone is connected to the PC??
I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
chaoscreater said:
I don't wanna create another topic for this since it's unnecessary, so here's my final question. In case something goes wrong in the future, what's the best way for me to revert back to stock?
I know I can use nandroid for this, but here's what i'm confused about. Nandroid makes a backup of the complete system, including the settings and apps installed correct? But what if you flash a custom rom, and then use a nandroid backup of the stock rom, will that still work? Or would you have to install the stock rom first for you to be able to use the nandroid backup?
Lastly, if the nandroid backup works regardless of whether you're using a different rom than the rom that the nandroid backup was made, then which option is better:
use nandroid to revert to stock, or using this guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11902513&postcount=7
Now I understand that for Milestone, custom roms are not actually flashed since the bootloader is locked. So would using nandroid be good enough?
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The best way to revert to stock will be to flash an sbf for your region that will wipe everything. They have those sbf's on and-developers.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA Premium App
Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
chaoscreater said:
Ahh I see, so in what situations will we be using nandroid to restore from the backup?
Also, the SBF file i'm using is from the guide that you linked me in your 2nd post. I'm using the EUROPE one because apparently it covers most of the countries around Europe, which includes New Zealand (where I live). I've had no problems with it, but just then I checked out the AND-Developers site like you suggested, and found this here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone221
It doesn't seem to have New Zealand but it does have Australia, which is like a neighbour to us. Will it be better if I flash the SBF to that instead?
Also, will flashing a SBF change the radio? Or does only changing the baseband change the radio? Because i'm getting weak signals from 2G/3G sometimes, and my Wifi has problems sometimes not being able to connect properly. Either that, or it shows that i'm connected but i'm not getting any data, apparently a lot of people have problems like this after I did some searching around.
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1. when you're phone will not start anymore, it's good to have one before every new flash cause you never now what's gonna happen.
2. funny thing is i know where New Zealand is (not near Europe) . about the baseband ... yes every sbf has the region specific baseband 's (you cant flash a radio only change baseband 's).
baseband can be found on dexter's (http://dext3r.komodin.org/) page but they are already included in OR (not sure about fufu's). i can't be very precise because i don't remember.
custom rom's don't think they change baseband 's, (the .zip ones)
Ya ur right, NZ is not anywhere near Europe lol
but I did do some research on which SBF I needed before I flashed it, and I found out that the Europe SBF works for NZ as well, it was mentioned somewhere I can't remember.
About the baseband, I'm still a little bit confused. First off, I already know that you can change the baseband under OpenRecovery. The thing is, there are no options to change the baseband to New Zealand, so which one should I pick? Also, here's the part I'm confused about. You said that the baseband are region specific, and yet we can choose the baseband we want in OpenRecovery.
So since I flashed the SBF for Europe, what will happen if I then change the baseband to say Argentina (one of the options under OpenRecovery)? Will it crash or something?? I don't even know what baseband i'm using right now, I haven't changed anything, I only flashed the SBF for Europe and that's it. I can still go online using 2G/3G and txt no problem, but I'm just not sure if the baseband i'm using is suppose to be correct for New Zealand or not...
BTW just another side question (sorry I'm really new to the Android scene!):
I've found a few custom roms that doesn't use the current kernel we have for Milestone. As far as I know, the bootloader for Milestone is locked, therefore we can't properly flash a custom rom onto it, as well as replacing the kernel as well. So what I'm confused with is, if some of these custom roms don't use the current kernel on the system, then how does it work? Does it use its own kernel, and if so then shouldn't that replace the system's own kernel before it can be used??
Here's one of the custom rom topic where I read from, in case ur wondering:
This is the Froyo FRG22 image for our Milestone. but as this is not using the kernel, there are some limit to functions based on kernel requirement. But its close, and works great and is alot faster.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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About the baseband
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changing baseband's that are not supported by your network op will lead to no signal whatsoever.. i don't remember if there is a problem with only data. try other baseband, in theory it will not crash anything, so do a nandroid backup before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734802
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that is an old post from "25th July 2010, 05:52 AM" moto started to leak kernel from January 2011 give or take a month, so back then froyo was used with the eclair kernel. kernel from milestone was never changed to other than moto signed, only modules loaded at an early stage, thanks to kabaldan/nadlabak and other if exists
custom roms =
moto kernel
kernel modules (this helps on overclock , app2ext ... others)
mods to system files, apps
hope you understand cause i don't know if i make it clear at the end of the post
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The same goes for the custom roms. I don't understand how they can run on Milestone even though it's not properly flashed. Like some others have mentioned, the so-called "custom roms" that we have now are just a layer of image or skin on top of the stock rom. The weird thing is, it runs faster and most of the pre-installed stock apps that came with the stock rom are removed, thus giving us more space for internal storage. But how does this work if the custom roms haven't actually flashed onto our phone? Or did it overwrite/modify the files on the stock rom? If so, then isn't that just flashing onto the phone then?
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i doesn't make any sense, you will end up with no memory , only kernel remains, other things gets rewritten.
Code:
http://www.vodafone.co.nz/roaming/welcome-to-nz.jsp
this get out of what i know. with the frequencies,
basebands/frequency i have 900/1800
for data check if there is a problem with your apn settings
I see, thanks for your thorough explanation
Ya I know that changing my baseband will probably give me better signals, but I'm asking which one is best for Vodafone NZ because there isn't a baseband for New Zealand.
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings? Don't worry that's been solved already. I flashed to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF and now it's working very stable. But like I said, after flashing to that I now have problems with connecting to my operator whenever I switch to 2G. However, 3G works fine so there's no problem with that.
BTW, I have another problem. After flashing to the New Zealand v2.1 SBF, I couldn't access my OpenRecovery anymore. I didn't delete or change any files on my memory card, so if I could access OpenRecovery and root my device as well as flash a custom rom when I was still on Froyo, then why can't I do it again when I flash to Eclair?
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmation so I know that it is indeed the case.
I *think* I know the reason, is it because it patched the vulnerable recovery or something? I think this is what I need to do to fix this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
I haven't done it yet coz i'm busy these days, but i just need a confirmatio
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true story . it should say something about eocd marker and fail.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698059
For the data part, were you talking about my wifi problem, and suggesting I check the APN settings?
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sorry... i don't know, last night i thought i read something else, about working 3g and 2g not ..must be the skittles... to much rainbow
i suggest finding out what country baseband are similar to New Zealand and flash/apply that one )