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[Q] How to tell when you need a new battery?

I'm posting this question because I'm sort of confused, I've had my hero since July and since then have ran every rom to date. Now I'm running AospMod 9.9.2 and have never witnessed such horrible battery life. I know it has nothing to do with this rom because I used to get f*cking awesome battery life almost 2 days without charging. Now I'm lucky if I get 6 hours moderate use... Charged to 93 this morning, still on charger rebooted to install keyboard, loaded back up dropped to 73...
I've done all sorts of calibration nothing works, Can I please get some insight on my problem before I buy a new battery? Thanks in advance!
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It might be the ROM. Did you change back to a different one to see how it worked? If it went for almost 2 days a few days prior then drops to a 6 hour usage I highly doubt it's the battery itself. When my G1 battery went it started to lose time very fast at the end but it did it gradually over months before I had to get a new one.

Texas Spectre said:
It might be the ROM. Did you change back to a different one to see how it worked? If it went for almost 2 days a few days prior then drops to a 6 hour usage I highly doubt it's the battery itself. When my G1 battery went it started to lose time very fast at the end but it did it gradually over months before I had to get a new one.
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Well when I had my best battery life it was with AospMod 9.6 - 9.7.
I might go back to an older version and see..
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The reason I ask about a new battery is, when my phone just sits on the homescreen with only google sync on gmail, beautiful widgets 3 hour for weather check, and some icons the battery ia draining 1% every like 5 mins without me doing anything...
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try Collins or Deca's battery tweak in the dev section

Meh already running collins battery tweak..

igtheactt1 said:
Meh already running collins battery tweak..
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try switching interactive with um whatever the other common setting is

igtheactt1 said:
I'm posting this question because I'm sort of confused, I've had my hero since July and since then have ran every rom to date. Now I'm running AospMod 9.9.2 and have never witnessed such horrible battery life. I know it has nothing to do with this rom because I used to get f*cking awesome battery life almost 2 days without charging. Now I'm lucky if I get 6 hours moderate use... Charged to 93 this morning, still on charger rebooted to install keyboard, loaded back up dropped to 73...
I've done all sorts of calibration nothing works, Can I please get some insight on my problem before I buy a new battery? Thanks in advance!
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If You Open Your Dialer, & Press *#*#4636#*#* It'll Take You To A Menu Where You Can Check The Battery & A Bunch Of Other Hidden Settings, But Not Sure If It Works With All Dealers? I Know It Works With Sense!
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You might have a zombie process or an app with a mem leak something is really eating that battery. Some apps/Widgets are poorly written and can cause battery issues. Typical life of a battery should be about 2 years(if that) before it starts to not hold a charge anymore though. There's a way to check which zombie process or mem leak could be killing your battery it would easily tell you. I wish I could give you the link but I'm on my phone. Flipz tells you how to do this on his site.
UPDATE: I found the link dude.
http://geekfor.me/news/why-is-my-android-phone-running-so-slow/
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State of CM9 alphas

For CM7 we had a thread with all the known major issues (and solutions) for the most recent roms.
CM7 now is almost perfect and pretty complete. CM9 is still in alpha though and (obviously) seems to have a lot of issues.
Can someone who flashes nightlies / kangs please give a short overview what doesn't work or what does cause problems? Also stability and power issues would be interesting.
Of course there are still problems with video hardware acceleration but what about other areas which are GPU relevant like browser, games or any app that isn't just a list really? What about the sound drivers, do they work in general? does listening to music while using other apps work that also output sound (for example music + navigation or podcast + navigation)?
I think this would be very helpful to a lot of people (me included of course )

Why didnt i think of that?
Silly me that reads this tiny thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347118

I didn't find anything useful via search which I didn't know from blogs / g+; as I didn't want to read up on as of now 1256 posts in that thread I had hoped someone could take 1 minute of his time and give a quick run-down.
I was hoping for a serious answer or a sarcastic one which took at least as long to write but would be really douchy. You just linked the thread so I'm not sure what to think lol

i use cm9 daily and i have not seen much problems. its smoother than any other rom i used, the battery holds much longer. whe listening to live streams it would not last longer than 6.5hours, yet on cm9 it holds for 9.5, i also dont need to charge every night or have the battery drained in the morning which was the worst thing and happend for me on all the other roms.
what does not work... let me see, the latest version of opera doesnt work. sometimes it takes a long time to get a data connection, but i think that is because my wifi switches on and off a lot. other than that i dont have any problem and i definitely wont go back to any gb rom.
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i havs battery extra, but ill wait for a cm9 stable
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grognaz said:
i use cm9 daily and i have not seen much problems. its smoother than any other rom i used, the battery holds much longer. whe listening to live streams it would not last longer than 6.5hours, yet on cm9 it holds for 9.5, i also dont need to charge every night or have the battery drained in the morning which was the worst thing and happend for me on all the other roms.
what does not work... let me see, the latest version of opera doesnt work. sometimes it takes a long time to get a data connection, but i think that is because my wifi switches on and off a lot. other than that i dont have any problem and i definitely wont go back to any gb rom.
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Thanks a bunch dude! The improvement on the battery from stock to cm7 was awesome already, getting even more out of it would be great. I assume you are listening via 3g right? getting more than 6 hours is quite an achievement there.
I switch a lot back and forth between wlan / 3g though so I guess I have to wait a bit for that to be sorted out.

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Thanks a bunch dude! The improvement on the battery from stock to cm7 was awesome already, getting even more out of it would be great. I assume you are listening via 3g right? getting more than 6 hours is quite an achievement there.
I switch a lot back and forth between wlan / 3g though so I guess I have to wait a bit for that to be sorted out.
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no im listening over wifi, but the battery usage reflects all over for me, usually i had to worry about my battery even on 2g, now i dont have any worrys, even on 3g it lasts longer than on 2g before.i guess its because it basicly uses 0 battery while not using it while on other roms it constantly drained as if i was using the device.
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I've been using Nova HD for a week now and even though I was sceptical at the beginning, I'm really happy with it. It's fast, no random reboots yet, no force closes. The battery is not super, but is is ok: I think I can use it for a day with normal use. I'm not going back to CM7

Battery problem

Hi Folks, I hve had my note for 1 year now and haven't had any battery problems until 2 days ago when I flashed a jb rom. All was fine for about 10 hours when I started to recharge the battery again that went fine, charged to 100% and unplugged, the phone said it was at 100%. After another few hours the phone cut out, no warning just cut out. I could get the phone back on but only when plugged into the charger. So, heres my problem, phone says battery is fully charged but when I unplug the charger it cuts out now. if I boot in to recovery with out the charger it stays on for hours. if I try to start the phone up normally with out charger it doesn't work. I have tried another battery again it started fine for almost a day then the same problems again. I have tried several kernels and roms in case it was one of those that was causing the problem but its the same every time. Im not a newb when it comes to flashing roms some im 100% sure its all ok in that department. any help would be appreciated.
thanks
Graham

My note is also about 10 months old. I want to know if my battery stats. I feel like my phone is giving me short time.
My question is do i need a replacement with these stats????
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qazibasit said:
My note is also about 10 months old. I want to know if my battery stats. I feel like my phone is giving me short time.
My question is do i need a replacement with these stats????
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What really matters here is your screen on time (I can get around 4h30 with heavy use). I also see you have a few notifications so there might be some draining apps running in the background (like that *** Facebook app which is constantly running in the background even with notifications off). In any case BBS should help you identify the "rogue" app (if any). Also I don't use Google Now as it's kind of a battery killer.

this problem is same with me...after 1 year use gnote
and this is battery problem..i dont know whats is causing it...
i try to enter recovery mode and ..battery is good..almost 4 hours screen on recovery mode
but if I try to start the phone up normally phone is reboot after 1minute in homescreen android
trying with different rom jb ..same problem ..
after replace my battery ..problem is gone..

@strachg If the phone used to work well before you flashed JB I'd recommend going back to ICS to see if the problem persists. If it disappears the reason is JB which would not supprise me since all JB roms for the Note are not really bug free. If the phone continues to behave like you described and changing the battery does not help either I'd say it's a hardware failure.
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altae said:
@strachg If the phone used to work well before you flashed JB I'd recommend going back to ICS to see if the problem persists. If it disappears the reason is JB which would not supprise me since all JB roms for the Note are not really bug free. If the phone continues to behave like you described and changing the battery does not help either I'd say it's a hardware failure.
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Hi, Yeah I already tried going back to ics and it was just the same, it just seems like a bit of coincidence and really annoying lol. The only thing I can think off that is causing it is as you say that its a hardware fault and it must be overcharging the battery and breaking it. If it was JB that was causing it im sure I wouldn't have been the only one by now.
thanks
Graham

how did you install jb? Was it clean on safe kernel? You havent eliminated the possibility of software issues.
Qazibazit, it looks ok.
Guideline 3,5-4,5 hours on screen time is normal (if you play games can be less, thus is from full to 1%). Total standby time, usually more then 24 hours is normal.
If you have a lot less, go read ahalfords sticky on wakelocks. All you need to know to optimize battery.
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Hi baz 77 yeah using safe kernel, tried a few actually. And using utackas. Version of paranoid android now again tried a few Roms. Everything was wiped and redone the process about 20 times. I looked through all the roms. And kernel threads and no one has had this problem. New battery coming so will see how it goes now.
Cheers
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Hi baz 77 yeah using safe kernel, tried a few actually. And using utackas. Version of paranoid android now again tried a few Roms. Everything was wiped and redone the process about 20 times. I looked through all the roms. And kernel threads and no one has had this problem. New battery coming so will see how it goes now.
Cheers
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yep thats pretty definitive, at least if all those roms are not having same base and thus posibly same issues.
Your new battery will improve your experience quite a bit if its a good one!
Have fun with it and let us know if it worked for you

Possible AOIP battery life issue???

OK, I know the battery life issue for 4.2 ROMs has been beat to death, but I've got something weird happening with AOIP on my phone that doesn't happen with other ROMs.
Basically, when I'm at work, the battery graph (from Battery Monitor Widget Pro) looks like in the AOIPbattery image attached below.
As you can see, it ate all but 3% of the battery in about 11 hours. At times Battery Monitor Widget Pro indicated it was using the battery at 11%/hr or more! This is while I'm at work, and the phone is not doing anything, just sitting on the desk with the screen off, connected to a wifi network but not doing anything with that either.
After a few days of that, I decided I needed to try something else. Originally was going to go back to my "old reliable" backup of 4.1 Rootbox, then thought instead that I'd try the last build of 4.2 Slimbean I still had as a backup. Restored that and got all my current data for the apps reloaded, seemed to be working fine (though still had the stuttering and dumping of apps issues, which was why I wuit using it). Thing is, it's using battery not much faster than the Rootbox one did. See the SlimbeanBattery image to see how it did at work. Same scenario (sitting on the desk, connected to wifi, screen off almost all day). The little bit of high usage was while I was at lunch, reading some web pages and rss feeds, so the screen was on for about a half hour.
So, I'm wondering what the heck is making it use batter so fast on AOIP? I tried several things before switching to Slimbean. Airplane mode made no difference. Used Wakelock Detector to see what was using it up, and it was some part of Android OS making AlarmManager go nuts with wakelocks.
I even backed everything up, factory wiped it a couple times, then loaded the base AOIP 6/3 ROM and loaded GAPPS to see if it still did it.
Nothing seemed to make any difference.
In one sense, I'm hoping the new build that keeps getting hinted at might correct some of this, but I kinda doubt it considering how everyone who brings up battery issues usually gets treated.

That's normal for 4.2 Roms
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I see your point, why does one 4.2 room use that much more battery life then the other, it makes no sense to me. Maybe camcory can shed some light in this issue
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That's how my battery life has been on all 4.2 Roms. If aoip is worse for you then most obviously you need to switch Roms.
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I really was hoping that you would see that there might be something wrong with AOIP and take a look at it at least, and not throw out the same tired response. While I do appreciate the work put into AOIP, forum thanks have not happened due to the refusal to notice the glaring issue that everyone else does.
I would really like to know if you even read my post, Smartguy? Seems not or you would have noticed that AOIP in that scenario eats battery three times faster than another 4.2 ROM. Why?
I'm not trying to upset anyone, just trying to hopefully get this resolved in an amicable manner.

Some people don't have battery drain issues that bad with AOIP. You should keep in mind that this phone was never intended to run anything above gingerbread. Every one of these phones handles issues differently, which is unfortunate, but if a Dev doesn't have the same issue it is hard to address. Its just how it is.
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Yes I read your post I wouldn't respond if I didn't. I have ran all the 4.2 Roms and with all of them I might get 10-11 hours of life. So no I don't see a problem with the ROM and if you do use another one.
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smartguy044 said:
Yes I read your post I wouldn't respond if I didn't. I have ran all the 4.2 Roms and with all of them I might get 10-11 hours of life. So no I don't see a problem with the ROM and if you do use another one.
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Wow hard to believe (well not really) this horse has been beat to death more times than a cat has lives! I'm pretty happy with battery life for the performance and OS I'm getting with AOIP. No hiccups and I have access to all the latest android features. The phone has a small battery anyway so if you want better battery life, time for a new phone or switch to a Gingerbread OS. I charge the phone once a day typically so that's hardly an inconvenience.

Thing is there is something major different in AOIP, as I can typically get just over 24 hours out of this battery in anything other than AOIP, including while I'm at work where the battery usage is a little higher than at home in every ROM I've tried (4.1 and 4.2 based included).
AOIP for some reason eats battery at more than 10% per hour only when I'm at work (less than 3% per hour at home) even when I haven't loaded any apps.
Every time I look at what is using it, it is either "cell standby" or "android os" that is using the most with the other of those two second and the screen usage following in a distant third.
I've tried to figure out what specific item in those two are the source, but it always comes back to some generic service or component in the os that is used by almost everything.
Really any advice to try and improve this, other than "use another ROM", would be appreciated.

Try putting your phone in airplane mode while at work and turn on WiFi. That might help with eating the battery. Especially if where you work had a poor cell reception
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get a new battery. i dont know what else to tell you. if you are getting 24 hours out of every other 4.2 rom youll be the only one. as i stated i get 10-11 tops on ANY 4.2 rom. so you have 2 choices new battery or different rom

Best thing to to is kill background data turn off Bluetooth WiFi sync and locations when not using your phone for a couple of hours. But your best bet would spring for an 2900mh battery.

tazmaniondvl said:
Try putting your phone in airplane mode while at work and turn on WiFi. That might help with eating the battery. Especially if where you work had a poor cell reception
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That was the first thing I thought, but it acts the same.
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im going to vote you get a new battery if its that big a deal....:good:

go back to gingerbread OS. we gave you suggestions already. 1) new battery. 2) gingerbread OS. simple as that

I just don't understand this. Why is it that everyone refuses to see that there might be something wrong with AOIP compared to other _4.2_ ROMs?
I wasn't complaining about battery life on 4.2 ROMs, just noting that ONLY AOIP has this issue that I saw.
All other 4.2 ROMs used less than half the percent per hour as AOIP.
Telling me to just buy a larger battery when I don't have the money for it is not an acceptable answer. Neither is telling me to go back to the crapload called "gingerbread", whose only advantage is battery life, at the drawback of making everything else run like crap.
Guess I shouldn't have bothered, since it seems the developers may be able to code, but sure could learn a thing or two about listening to others with valid issues they should be addressing in their code.
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dwolfman said:
I just don't understand this. Why is it that everyone refuses to see that there might be something wrong with AOIP compared to other _4.2_ ROMs?
I wasn't complaining about battery life on 4.2 ROMs, just noting that ONLY AOIP has this issue that I saw.
All other 4.2 ROMs used less than half the percent per hour as AOIP.
Telling me to just buy a larger battery when I don't have the money for it is not an acceptable answer. Neither is telling me to go back to the crapload called "gingerbread", whose only advantage is battery life, at the drawback of making everything else run like crap.
Guess I shouldn't have bothered, since it seems the developers may be able to code, but sure could learn a thing or two about listening to others with valid issues they should be addressing in their code.
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sorry dude, i think your the one refusing to see. you seem to understand your way around, you sure your not doing something goofy on the install ?

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since it seems the developers may be able to code, but sure could learn a thing or two about listening to others with valid issues they should be addressing in their code.
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maybe you can code in a "battery fix" and share it with all of us.

Just use a different ROM. Jesus Christ!

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sorry dude, i think your the one refusing to see. you seem to understand your way around, you sure your not doing something goofy on the install ?
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It didn't matter what I installed or didn't install. Once I got the phone at work with AOIP on it, it ate the battery three times faster than any other 4.2 ROM. One time, to rule out anything I was setting or loading, I loaded AOIP, gapps, then put in my account info and disabled auto updates with nothing else changed. It still did it.
As QA software tester, I know how to identify software issues and bugs. The only explanation for what I have happening is there is something going on with AOIP itself to cause this. Like I've already demonstrated other 4.2 ROMs only use the battery a little faster than RootBox 4.1 (RB about 0.6%/hr vs slimbean 4.2 using 1.1 to 1.5 %/hr) with that screenshot in my OP. AOIP uses about 2.5 %/hr at home but over 10%/hr at work.
In any case, it's quite apparent now that this little group of ostriches with their heads still stuck in the sand isn't interested in hearing the truth, so consider this a closed thread.
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[Q] Ridiculous Battery Drain

Dear People of XDA,
I have this issue since a few days and I don't know how to solve it. My battery drains out after 10 min while using wifi and the phone will shut down of course. Leaving it for about an hours time, some power will be regained and I can continue using my device. It all started when I reverted back to stock ICS from cm 10.1. I thought flashing Carburano's ROM might help but apparently not, same problem. I know batterys don't always go nuts but when they do, it's progressive. Any one know what might be wrong?
Regards....

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Dear People of XDA,
I have this issue since a few days and I don't know how to solve it. My battery drains out after 10 min while using wifi and the phone will shut down of course. Leaving it for about an hours time, some power will be regained and I can continue using my device. It all started when I reverted back to stock ICS from cm 10.1. I thought flashing Carburano's ROM might help but apparently not, same problem. I know batterys don't always go nuts but when they do, it's progressive. Any one know what might be wrong?
Regards....
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Use the better battery stats app and check which app running in the background is draining your battery without allowing the device going into sleep....
but if the drain is like what you have described....then it is time to move on to another battery....
just a word.....Kernel is something (other things being Baseband) which takes care of the battery performance....so maybe you can try changing this and check which one suits you well.
CHECK IN THE FORUM TO FIND INFO ABOUT APPS LIKE GREENIFY...
Hope this helps you

TheNesski said:
Dear People of XDA,
I have this issue since a few days and I don't know how to solve it. My battery drains out after 10 min while using wifi and the phone will shut down of course. Leaving it for about an hours time, some power will be regained and I can continue using my device. It all started when I reverted back to stock ICS from cm 10.1. I thought flashing Carburano's ROM might help but apparently not, same problem. I know batterys don't always go nuts but when they do, it's progressive. Any one know what might be wrong?
Regards....
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Thinking it like this: the phone probably can drain a fully charged battery in 10 minutes if you turn on every major component, like vibration, flash, display to 100%, gps, wifi, 3G and what else... But having just wifi on and getting a phone shutdown in 10 min seems excessive. This would suggest your battery is not charging properly. This can result from end-of-lifetime battery only charging to some 10-25% of original capacity, broken charger, battery self-discharge and probably some other reasons I could not think of right now.
The best solution, most likely, is to replace your battery (like SREEPRAJAY above already suggested), but if you like to troubleshoot you could try to charge your phone via USB to reduce the charging current (Li-ion batteries show a lower voltage during charging with lower charge current until 100% is reached). This way you may be able to charge to higher capacity. Also, it may hint that some kernel might work better for you, but I'm not sure about this, since I don't remember what part of Android (SW, charger HW or what) handles the charging logic, i.e. what triggers the charging actually to stop.

Thanks...I'll try the suggestions
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Thanks...I'll try the suggestions
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well maybe your battery isn't so good anymore or you must try also other roms like jelly cream and those kind of roms and if you wanna know the rom slimbean and cm10.2 from tonyp are also pretty smooth and battery saving but cm10.2 is sadly not working camera still but further it's damm good

Hi I have experienced some issues with battery draining, when I check battery stats it says that most of the battery is drained from Android . media. Service... I have no idea how to work out or disable whatsoever is using those services.. Btw I'm on cm10.1 latest nightly
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