I know that this may be wishfull thinking but since the stock SMS app has very limited functionality, I am looking for the ideal SMS app that will at least support the following:
1) Ability to view system folders (inbox/sent/drafts/deleted) as well as create your own for archiving messages
2) Save templates (i.e. save x-mas wishes, or birthday wishes) and retrieve easily to reuse without much fuss. It would be also very good if you could backup those so that you can restore when you hard-reset.
3) A very nice feature will be the ability to resolve a phone number within a message to the contacts name. For example, when you receive a notification from your carrier about a missed call, instead of calling that number in order to find out who it is, it would be nic to see the name directly.
4) Also, it would be nice if the sms app would wake up the display and if the led could flash forever until you confirm the notification.
If anyone found something that covers those requirements, I will owe a big "Thanks"
I have tried ChompSMS but it doesn't fulfill my requirements. Here are my findings:
1) Doesn't resolve the number to contact within the message
2) One thing I hate with mosts SMS apps (including stock) is that you see all messages in one list (both incoming and outgoing) so, for some of them I get confused and wonder if I was the one who sent that OK/Yes/No message or if it is one I received.
3) NO DRAFTS unless you pre-enter the number
4) No folders for archiving
5) I don't like the list interface (stock is better)
6) Nice that it has templates and backup/restore feature.
7) display wakes up properly with nice options
Conclusion: I doubt I will find an application that will satisfy me
Woha, maybe youy should lower your requirements a bit, it's a phone not a spaceship.
Give Go SMS a go (no pun intended), it's developed by folks in this forum, and i switched to it from ChompSMS. If that doesn't suit your need none will.
There's also Handscent but it sucks imho. Some people seem to like it anyway (don't think they've tried Chomp or Go though)
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Woha, maybe youy should lower your requirements a bit, it's a phone not a spaceship.
Give Go SMS a go (no pun intended), it's developed by folks in this forum, and i switched to it from ChompSMS. If that doesn't suit your need none will.
There's also Handscent but it sucks imho. Some people seem to like it anyway (don't think they've tried Chomp or Go though)
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Having studied the debates between ChompSMS and Handcent I assume that they are exactly the same but with differences in the UI. Since I don't care too much about the nice looking interface but rather I'm looking for those specific features and bettwe usability, I won't bother testing Handcent.
I've seen some comments about GoSMS but I thought it will also be the same as those 2. I'll give it a try.
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Don't know if anyone else has seen this yet (or cares), but since I love YouMail, I thought I'd post this up.
They have a link in this forum topic to download the .apk file, but since it says it's a closed beta, I'm not sure if you need to have YouMail allow your YouMail account to use the software.
LMK
http://api.youmail.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15
Downloaded. It works pretty well. No option to save MP3 messages to SD. Uses polling, which can be a total pain in the ass, and kinda pointless for a voicemail system.
I actually started writing this app about a month ago, but the project manager(i assume) didn't really understand what I was talking about. I tried explaining to him that polling from the device is kinda a kludgy approach, and they should try and implement a different system. I even went so far as to writing a small server side program that would ping the device when there was new messages.
Here's the weird thing though, I sent him a long email one day asking him a bunch of questions about the hardware and software they're using for this system(so I can better design this software), and he never got back to me. THEN, a few weeks later(a month maybe) calls me asking how things are going.
Mind you, I hadn't signed any agreement with them, no deal was in place, and I do have other responsibilities. After a week or so I just assumed they were going with another developer. I assumed from the beginning that there were multiple people working on multiple apps, and they would just release the best one first. Oh well, that's my run-in with them.
Other than all of the above, the service itself is VERY useful. As far as the app is concerned, I think it's a great first-go, but it needs a little refinement. It's a bit slow, and scheduled server checks just isn't going to cut it. Why manually check my messages when I can have them deliver it in MP3 for to my email directly on my phone?
In anycase, good job whoever wrote the app!
I installed it and it shows my messages however it doesn't play anything. I click open and it just sits there. Im running cm 3.4 with hero 1.2, maybe thats why
How is this compared to PF Voicemail?
Probably not as cool as a dedicated app, but I:
1. Simply turn on email notifications on the youmail website with the option to attach an MP3 of the voicemail and send the emails to my gmail account
2. then I setup a filter in gmail to label all youmail messages with attachments to "YouMail"
3. I put a shortcut on my homescreen by "add shortcut" "Gmail label" "YouMail"
4. for good measure I tell the Android message settings to sync emails in the youmail folder for 4 days worth of voicemail in case I run into a problem with my network connection.
Instant Visual Voicemail with push.
wagz said:
Probably not as cool as a dedicated app, but I:
1. Simply turn on email notifications on the youmail website with the option to attach an MP3 of the voicemail and send the emails to my gmail account
2. then I setup a filter in gmail to label all youmail messages with attachments to "YouMail"
3. I put a shortcut on my homescreen by "add shortcut" "Gmail label" "YouMail"
4. for good measure I tell the Android message settings to sync emails in the youmail folder for 4 days worth of voicemail in case I run into a problem with my network connection.
Instant Visual Voicemail with push.
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Yea, that's pretty much what I do too...I wish you could set it up to automatically download attachments though, especially since the beta app kinda sucks right now.
The app is in Open Beta now - feel free to download and try it out.
The only thing we (I) ask is that if you find any problems, or have any suggestions - either send us an email ([email protected]) or join in the discussion on the forums.
And yes, currently you need a free YouMail account in order to use the app. At some point you'll be able to sign up as part of the installation process, but that's in a later version.
YouMail for G1
Hi,
Could I please ask that you send *me* a private email with details about who at YouMail you were talking to? I'm the one responsible for the Android app and this is the first I have heard of someone contacting us regarding this app.
Regarding your comments about polling. We would absolutely ***love*** to push your voicemail to the phone similar to the way our Blackberry cousins get their email. Problem here is that in order to do that YouMail would need an interconnect agreement with T-Mobile (and other carriers) letting us use their push technology (yes, the G1 software does support push). The chances of T-Mobile (and other carriers) allowing that to happen are pretty much nil. (We all know that competition is bad... don't we?)
So, out of the box, what the Android app does is:
* Poll every hour to catch up on changes you may have made via the dial-in interface, or the web site (you can adjust it to be as often as every 15 mins, or as infrequent as 'never')
* Poll a couple of minutes after you miss a call - to see if the caller left you a message
* Poll when one of YouMail's special TXT messages arrives (the kind that start with "New VM:....")
* Manually initiated
That's the best approximation to push that we've been able to come up with considering the limitations. The drain on battery is actually remarkably low.
Of course, if you choose to receive your voicemails via email go for it!
I'll put a post up on the YouMail forums explaining battery usage.
Thanks
Doug
InGeNeTiCs said:
Downloaded. It works pretty well. No option to save MP3 messages to SD. Uses polling, which can be a total pain in the ass, and kinda pointless for a voicemail system.
I actually started writing this app about a month ago, but the project manager(i assume) didn't really understand what I was talking about. I tried explaining to him that polling from the device is kinda a kludgy approach, and they should try and implement a different system. I even went so far as to writing a small server side program that would ping the device when there was new messages.
Here's the weird thing though, I sent him a long email one day asking him a bunch of questions about the hardware and software they're using for this system(so I can better design this software), and he never got back to me. THEN, a few weeks later(a month maybe) calls me asking how things are going.
Mind you, I hadn't signed any agreement with them, no deal was in place, and I do have other responsibilities. After a week or so I just assumed they were going with another developer. I assumed from the beginning that there were multiple people working on multiple apps, and they would just release the best one first. Oh well, that's my run-in with them.
Other than all of the above, the service itself is VERY useful. As far as the app is concerned, I think it's a great first-go, but it needs a little refinement. It's a bit slow, and scheduled server checks just isn't going to cut it. Why manually check my messages when I can have them deliver it in MP3 for to my email directly on my phone?
In anycase, good job whoever wrote the app!
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I installed it and it shows my messages however it doesn't play anything. I click open and it just sits there. Im running cm 3.4 with hero 1.2, maybe thats why
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If you could send me some details I might be able to help.
The app downloads all message data via http.
Sistum Id said:
How is this compared to PF Voicemail?
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This is what I'm waiting to hear about before taking the plunge...
Left myself a message and I got the alert. I ran the app and then it says I have a message. I click on the number that was the caller and well nothing seems to happen. I see what appears to be a download button and across a phone/speaker.
Nothing seems to make any noise.
Also this app was in my recently ran apps tray so does this app start on phone turn on or do you have to manually start for the alerts. Also the polling is that to check for messages or to pull down the audio?
The reason I ask this stuff is there really isn't any discriptions of what does what and most apps appear to be straight forward.
Looks like I just got a text now saying I have a message. Thats what brings me to the polling. Does it poll every hour on top of the text message?
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Also the polling is that to check for messages or to pull down the audio?
The reason I ask this stuff is there really isn't any discriptions of what does what and most apps appear to be straight forward.
Looks like I just got a text now saying I have a message. Thats what brings me to the polling. Does it poll every hour on top of the text message?
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I don't know if this is or isn't the info you're looking for, but this info was in the original post for somebody who seems to be working on the app...
ymDoug said:
So, out of the box, what the Android app does is:
* Poll every hour to catch up on changes you may have made via the dial-in interface, or the web site (you can adjust it to be as often as every 15 mins, or as infrequent as 'never')
* Poll a couple of minutes after you miss a call - to see if the caller left you a message
* Poll when one of YouMail's special TXT messages arrives (the kind that start with "New VM:....")
* Manually initiated
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Heh...finally an app is developing for YM I had posted here and even emailed a couple of devs and got nowhere. Even emailed YouMail and got the standard "not at this moment, there are no plans on supporting Android".
omario117 said:
I don't know if this is or isn't the info you're looking for, but this info was in the original post for somebody who seems to be working on the app...
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So I"m blind and dumb. Thanks
Now if it only pulled down the audio it would be awesome. I guess thats why things are work in progress.
kizer said:
So I"m blind and dumb. Thanks
Now if it only pulled down the audio it would be awesome. I guess thats why things are work in progress.
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Only if you're calling yourself that, I'm not calling you anything
If you did think I was, I apologize, I was simply trying to make the posting of my info seem credible, as opposed to "here's information but I'm not going to mention where I got it" or "look at the first post by such and such"...
I'd like to thank mustang_52 for getting back to me and helping figure out what was wrong. I believe the app is working correct for him now.
Just in case anyone is interested, there was a problem on one of the back-end servers where it wasn't creating the MP3 file that the app needs, so you were seeing "downloading" forever... we fixed it around noon today and everything seems to be AOK now.
There is a forum set up on the YouMail site that explains how the app checks for messages and the trade-offs we had to make since 'push' technology is effectively unavailable to us at present. (Unless of course we have some senior management from T-Mobile watching, and they want to contact me about making it available.........)
The forum is at: http://forums.youmail.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=8
Doug
Everything is working great since you fixed it. Thanks for such a great app.
Love this YouMail app... THANKS!!!
Good evening gentlemen,
Thanks for taking a look at my problem.
Basically I need something like DeskSMS for Android but for my windows phone (Nokia Lumia 820). The reason is the mother of my son (ex) is being a pain in the ass and "doesn't have an email" but I need to be able to record and send communications and be able to save them. Also thumbing my phone for hours trying to type out an email (via SMS texts) is a huge pain in the ass.
The solution would be a nice little app like DeskSMS or whatever else... instead of fighting her I could just type things out fast with that and after a few texts I'm sure she'd come around to my way of thinking without having to debate it (i.e. texts are not for formal conversations).
So... now I've let you into my strange little world perhaps you could help me? How to send texts from a browser (through my Windows phone)... any suggestions? I'm open to solutions!
Many mobile operators used to (and possibly still do) allow you to send email to an address that's something like <phonenumber>@<carriername>.com or similar. Not elegant, and I'm not sure how well it handles larger messages, but it used to work.
Otherwise, you may be in a bit of difficulty... I believe third-party WP8 apps are not permitted to send SMS directly (because of the risk of malware texting premium services, one of several popular tactics for Android malware). It's quaint and antiquated, but does she have fax? Otherwise, there's always the option of recorded telephone calls, though those can be a pain to transcribe.
TYVM
GoodDayToDie said:
Many mobile operators used to (and possibly still do) allow you to send email to an address that's something like <phonenumber>@<carriername>.com or similar. Not elegant, and I'm not sure how well it handles larger messages, but it used to work.
Otherwise, you may be in a bit of difficulty... I believe third-party WP8 apps are not permitted to send SMS directly (because of the risk of malware texting premium services, one of several popular tactics for Android malware). It's quaint and antiquated, but does she have fax? Otherwise, there's always the option of recorded telephone calls, though those can be a pain to transcribe.
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Some good thinking here especially about emailing her to her phone using <phonenumber>@<carriername>.com which I'll have a look into. I think she uses an iPhone too so seems ludicrous that she doesn't use her email (I don't know but guess you probably have to have one to have an apple account).
As you have guessed though I was hoping for something slick and polished and didn't realise third-party WP8 apps aren't permitted to send SMS directly. Thank you for helping me.
Frustrating really because I don't feel it's reasonable to demand she use a form of communication if she doesn't want to (this is hypothetical I think she must use email! maybe she really doesn't... she never was very tech... who doesn't use email?). I guess I'll have to think about writing an old fashioned letter maybe... god? has it come to this!
EDIT - just noticed I could email a conversation from whatsapp so maybe that's the answer.
Well, we all have obviously been using 4.4 Kit Kat for a while now. I love it personally! But there's always room for bigger and better things and more importantly, improvement.
Some things I want in stock Android:
-complete removal of all holo blue and more UI uniformity
-lock screen notifications
-customizable quick settings
-more speed and battery adjustments
-redesigned camera UI (FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE)
-battery percent indicator built in
-snazzier UI animations
That's it for now, I think. My list will probably grow as will yours.
What about all of you?
-Anthony
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I have a lot more requests for the tablet UI. I love Kit Kat for the Nexus 5. It felt like Kit Kat was a step backwards for the Nexus 10. They actually removed tablet UI features and put in phone UI in places.
I do agree with a continuation of removing the blue, and making it all a little sleaker.
I'd just like to see more attention given to the camera and battery
I would like to see the original features be addressed. The fact that Google Hangouts on the Nexus 5 acts strangely still concerns me. When sending out a group message, converts the message to MMS ( as it should ) however, once you hit send, it goes out to all people as individual SMS messages, which, when you get a reply, as opposed to being a group MMS conversation, is an individual SMS conversation. It's the little things like that which make it difficult...
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I have a lot more requests for the tablet UI. I love Kit Kat for the Nexus 5. It felt like Kit Kat was a step backwards for the Nexus 10. They actually removed tablet UI features and put in phone UI in places.
I do agree with a continuation of removing the blue, and making it all a little sleaker.
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I see mixed responses with the tablet UI all the time. I, for one, like the UI now compared to the old way.
As far as future additions to Android, I cant think of many. KitKat is beautiful in my opinion. The camera could use a little work though. I'm always looking forward to seeing what Google does though.
Separate the damn ringtone volume from the notification volume! I have volume butler, and it does what I want, but if I use my volume rocker while in a call, watching a video, listening to a song, etc, I have to go back in and adjust my volumes in there again. Pain in the rear.
Lossless PNG camera saving direct from raw data.
Quick setting customization
Art by default
Google music cache auto shrink if system needs space on data partition
Perhaps by flagging certain data as cache despite being on data partition and not cache partition.
The main thing missing from Android to make it user accessible is complete phone backup. I can't believe they still haven't introduced it.
I've been using Android phones since the G1, but one thing I prefer in iPhone is the fact that it used to automatically sync with iCloud everyday and backup. That way, if I lose my phone tomorrow, I can get a new one and restore an exact copy to it.
Using Google Drive, it should be the simplest thing to backup apps and data and settings.
I know Google has built in backup which backs up some data, but its not the same till all developers code for it. And yes, I have been using Titanium backup and also using the built in Google Drive option, and its still not the same.
Honestly, I'm happy with KitKat. I can't think of any other features that I need, but of course, any will be welcome.
My biggest wish? Get rid of the Holo blue in the in-call dialer. Why they didn't just make that look like the new dialer is beyond me, but it looks horribly out of place.
They definitely need to get rid of that awful black and greyish blue gradient background and replace it with a white or gray. It's very strange that the phone UI is very dark yet all of the Google Apps are incredibly bright, it just doesn't look right.
Actually I'm pretty happy. The only things I would love is a battery percentage next to the battery icon, but because its stock, this feature won't come.
Maybe.. Lower battery darin?
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Just give me a flashlight tile in quick settings and I'm set.
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MisterRich said:
I would like to see the original features be addressed. The fact that Google Hangouts on the Nexus 5 acts strangely still concerns me. When sending out a group message, converts the message to MMS ( as it should ) however, once you hit send, it goes out to all people as individual SMS messages, which, when you get a reply, as opposed to being a group MMS conversation, is an individual SMS conversation. It's the little things like that which make it difficult...
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Group MMS works fine for me on Hangouts. It sends it as a single MMS with multiple recipients attached. Do you have the Group Messaging option enabled in settings? I think that setting is setup to only work with specific carriers however so perhaps your carrier isn't supported.
Better Backup Features, WiFi Sync, Lockscreen Notifications.
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Group MMS works fine for me on Hangouts. It sends it as a single MMS with multiple recipients attached. Do you have the Group Messaging option enabled in settings? I think that setting is setup to only work with specific carriers however so perhaps your carrier isn't supported.
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See, there lies my problem, and, maybe it really is me at this point. My Nexus 5 is on hangouts 2.0.217 ( latest ) and under SMS settings, the first option under "Advanced" is "Delete old messages" ( just like in 2.0.1 ) When 2.0.2 was released, there's supposed to be "Group Messaging" which, doesn't exist. Unfortunately I don't know anyone else personally who owns a Nexus 5, so I can't compare, however, when I check a Galaxy S4, and some other phones on my same carrier, the option is there, and they're also on 2.0.217. Makes no sense. I know my carrier doesn't restrict it, and the firmware on these phones are not modified...
Most of all of the above but I want transparent systemui in every app.
MisterRich said:
I would like to see the original features be addressed. The fact that Google Hangouts on the Nexus 5 acts strangely still concerns me. When sending out a group message, converts the message to MMS ( as it should ) however, once you hit send, it goes out to all people as individual SMS messages, which, when you get a reply, as opposed to being a group MMS conversation, is an individual SMS conversation. It's the little things like that which make it difficult...
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One thing I found out is that it works with people who have iPhones. I don't know anybody who uses Hangouts so I can't speak on that and I know if the people you're texting have a Galaxy or any other kind of phone, the replies go into individual threads, but if the people you're texting have iPhones, group messaging should work. It's worked for me.
1) Camera-Fix that dam low brightness in the video recoding, the static noise, new and a better ui for camera.
Raw image would be a welcome change.
2)UI-In terms of ui decrease the google search ram usage around 130mb due to the fact that it has been added to the homescreen and ability to create folders in the app drawer, battery %
3) battery life improvement a must and decrease in the thermal throttling with performance improvement.
And last but not the least active listening like the moto X( I knw they won't bring it but still)
-raw images
-faster shutter and focus
-new camera ui
Maybe some other small changes like battery percentage by default etc.
I'm writing this story in behalf of one friend and asking how to get out of the phone about 100 SMS messages to be printed for the police in case of stalking. I don't find any solution my self. Is there any program to get out SMS messages or is there any possibilities to hack the phone or Back Up copy on outlook account.
Thanks in advance
I'd like to know this as well,it's the main stumbling block stopping me switching to Windows phone. On android it is so simple, I do mine weekly for a access court case against my ex. It should be a priority in this day and age.
potsykate said:
I'd like to know this as well,it's the main stumbling block stopping me switching to Windows phone. On android it is so simple, I do mine weekly for a access court case against my ex. It should be a priority in this day and age.
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on wp 8.1 you can enable them to be backuped
or when it are only 100 then you could copie them and past the text in an email ( I know that sucks but there isn't any better)
Thanks for that, when you back them up exactly where do they go and what can you do with the back up?
I don't mind the copy and paste aspects of it, it's a bind but I can do that.
Seems like there needs to be an app out there in this day and age to make this a simple task.
SMS backup is actually possible even just on 8.0, but it goes into an invisible SkyDrive (excuse me, OneDrive) folder. People were able to find the data before, but I don't remember how.
You could try intercepting the network traffic from the backup operation and see if that tells you where it's going?
That's a bit technical for the average person to be honest. Why can't they have something like 'sms backup and restore' like they do in android to make things simple for the average person?
I know where the backup is but I think the only one who can open it and extract SMS out is NSA - and of cource MS
Care to share the location? It may be possible to get it by requesting the files directly from OneDrive (or wherever) rather than navigating to them using the UI.
With that said, it might be worth contacting MS about it. I mean, if it's for the police, that's a pretty good reason to make that stuff accessible.
You probably only get it in plain text.
You need the coversationlist and the Sms textfield.
There are two way's of getting it.
Screendumps and / or.....the old fashion camera.
The option of making your messages visible in outlook doesnt work anymore.
More info
http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-8/225574-wow-look-view-text-message-backup-outlook.html
I'm looking to remove the SMS limit. I'm currently on 6.0 (pure nexus rom), but I would also like to know how to do it on 5.1.1. Manually is preferred so I know exactly what is being changed on my device.
Why? Because it's my phone and I should be able to remove this ridiculous limit if I want to, and...
I wrote a python script that sends out multiple SMS to a large group of my friends. I keep getting that annoying pop up that the app is sending large amounts of text messages, and having to hit the allow button multiple times. This wouldn't be an issue if hitting the allow button actually sent all of the text, but it doesn't. Quite frustrating.
I've read a few thread on XDA about the issue, but can't seem to remove the limit. I tried following a guide in one of the s3 categories to no avail.
I am looking for this too!
After hours of searching today - it appears that the setting has been moved into the framework?
com.android.internal.telephony
https://android.googlesource.com/pl...droid/internal/telephony/SmsUsageMonitor.java
I hope I'm wrong as I'm no Android dev.... But, if I'm correct the only way I know of to "fix" it is to make the change in a custom Android build/ROM.
This SUCKS as I use mass texting for business purposes (communicating with many individuals who sign up for contract work). I really like Android N (along with AndroidPay) - but, looks like I'll be going back to M (on a custom ROM)...
If anyone locates/determines a way to alter that file using RootExplorer/Sqlite or some other way - please let me know.