For me it is 16.4 feet (5 meters). No matter what rom i try, it has never gone lower than that. Has anyone got a more accurate reading before? mine jumps between 16.4ft and 32.8, and sometimes 49.2 ft.
I am currently on Bell's newest jl2, and last night was hovering at 9/10 locks to 11/11 locks with 16.4 ft accuracy and sometimes 32.8 ft. Is it even possible to get better than 16.4 ft?
I heard somewhere that the U.S. Government does not want people to have GPS that is any more accurate than what you have (Security reasons). If this is true or not I do not know.
Ian
Mine also shows 5 meter as best 'accuracy'. Mind you it is not the accuracy, but it is better to interpret it as a 'probable error'. Thus your position may very well be outside the 'accuracy circle' - and it is a guess, which may not be comparable to other phones.
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Mine also shows 5 meter as best 'accuracy'. Mind you it is not the accuracy, but it is better to interpret it as a 'probable error'. Thus your position may very well be outside the 'accuracy circle' - and it is a guess, which may not be comparable to other phones.
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You can get a 5m accuracy and still be 500m off if you happen to have a Galaxy S.
It has to be something to do with the firmware. Why are all of the readings perfectly divisible by 16.4 feet? I only see this with the Galaxy S phones too. As far as the guess about government restricting accuracy, my friend's htc incredible bounces between 3 and 6 feet, and this lucky SOB gets down to 1 foot towards the end of the video!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5scZhN8i0I&feature=player_embedded
Yes, I can't get any better than 5meter as well.
Now, when I use my handheld mapping Garmin GPSMAP 60CSx GPS, as long as I have a clear view of the sky it'll be accurate to 3 meters, sometimes up to 2 meter accuracy.
Well, I would bet some $ that the HTC is "faking" the accuracy (happy meter). The GPS on any phone has a very hard time getting a reading with an accuracy better than 5 meters independent of the GPS hardware. The accuracy is a statistical figure which will give you the probability (95%) of you being with in the that distance from your true location (so 1 in 20 readings could be 100 miles away in a one foot accuracy even if it is not likely).
The hardware, even if the phone could get a perfect reception and calculation, is not the main problem, for a one or even 10 footer. The problem in these scenarios is the space weather, accuracy of satellites etc. Ordinary earthly weather do not affect the GPS so much as some seems to believe. Anyway, 1 feet is hard to get even with a professional DGPS (differential GPS) and impossible with a GPS in a phone.
I get 5m and sometimes without any reason it jumps to 10m.
Every other smartphone(cheap or not) i used gets accuracy under 3m and most of the time 1m !! I am wondering , what the hell did samsung with the gps chip... I didn't believe that the gps was that bad until i saw other phones...
The main problem with being capped at 5 meters is that in residential areas where streets may be tighter any GPS app will bounce you around like crazy. Basically Google Maps uses the accuracy of 5 meters which is a radius meaning the circle in which Google Maps will think you're in could really be 10 meters wide. Since 10 meters can be on multiple streets at once in Google Maps, it will start bouncing you around.... And heaven help you if you have an accuracy higher than 10 meters, you might as well guess where you are.
Whether other GPS phones are "faking" their accuracy or not (and I don't think they really are), Samsung has CLEARLY developed their GPS firmware to only be accurate in intervals of 5 meters which makes NO sense at all because a phone can easily get more accurate than 5 meters of accuracy seeing as I've never had this problem of bouncing around navigation maps on much MUCH crappier phones than the Galaxy S...
Google accuracy + GPS and you will understand why you do not get under 5 meters. It is near impossible to get lower readings. The phones that get 1 feet are miracles. A dedicated GPS with good antenna sometimes get 3 meters.
Look at this page in german http://www.kowoma.de/gps/gpsmonitor/gpsmonitor.php. Translate it to english and you will be enlighten. He uses a dedicated Garmin antenna on the roof to mesure the error. With 95% he get around 4 meters 2010, with 50% he get 2 meters. You have to scroll to the bottom to get the figures from the archive.
Well you may argue that it is an old GPS but the technology has not been going towards more precision but to smaller and less battery draining components so the accuracy will be roughly the same. It is way better that you try to enlighten yourself about the GPS then nag on SGS so we can skip the rather uneducated guesses. I am not saying tha SGS is a good GPS but you seems to expect some magic that do not exist on any phone.
I regularly get 5m which is approx 15ft.
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I regularly get 5m which is approx 15ft.
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Thanks for the info Nirvana. If I had that accuracy constantly I'm sure I'd get more accurate navigation. How does your phone handle Google Maps Navigation? Does your location jump around or does it uneccessarily reroute?
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Google accuracy + GPS and you will understand why you do not get under 5 meters. It is near impossible to get lower readings. The phones that get 1 feet are miracles. A dedicated GPS with good antenna sometimes get 3 meters.
Look at this page in german http://www.kowoma.de/gps/gpsmonitor/gpsmonitor.php. Translate it to english and you will be enlighten. He uses a dedicated Garmin antenna on the roof to mesure the error. With 95% he get around 4 meters 2010, with 50% he get 2 meters. You have to scroll to the bottom to get the figures from the archive.
Well you may argue that it is an old GPS but the technology has not been going towards more precision but to smaller and less battery draining components so the accuracy will be roughly the same. It is way better that you try to enlighten yourself about the GPS then nag on SGS so we can skip the rather uneducated guesses. I am not saying tha SGS is a good GPS but you seems to expect some magic that do not exist on any phone.
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Well my point about the firmware only incrementing by 5 meters at a time still is valid. No other phone does that. It screws up Google Maps if you're not within 32.8 feet (10 meters). Believe GPS Test or don't if you want, but head to head navigation tests will prove the Galaxy S falls short of most mobile phones with GPS in speed and accuracy. I've never read as many complaints about GPS on any other line of phones than the Galaxy S line.
And as far as me believing in "magical phones" capable of pinpoint GPS accuracy, well then I suppose all of the HTC Android devices must have been made by freakin' Dumbledore himself because I've never once seen them bounce around a city so drastically while using Google Maps for navigation like the Galaxy S bounces around... My sister's G1 is better than my Galaxy S for crying out loud... But what do I know, I don't even speak German lol...
Sheesh..... Tough crowd.....
Read the last line "I am not saying tha SGS is a good GPS but you seems to expect some magic that do not exist on any phone.".
However there are some issues with the GPS but I think they are within the tolerance at least for me. HTC may make better GPS phones but all I am trying to say is that there are so many misconceptions floating around the forum that and I just want to keep the discussion on a certain level.
My GPS for one thing do give bigger "false true location" for the first minutes than what is shown as an error. I tolerate that because I know that it takes time to adjust to true location. I think HTC is better in that sense. However my SGS has an extremely good sensitivity. I can get an lock in the basement with concrete walls on every sida (just a a hole for staircase on one side). To my knowledge no HTC unit has accomplish that. On the other hand there seems to be some trouble with Maps and MyTracks (especially) which seems to be way to slow in updating speed. If you use the built in test program for GPS and use http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html to manually set position you get much better readings. This pointing in the direction that there is some software problems. An educated guess is that the GPS has to low priority (read Hardcore thread) or the file system is to slow. We will see what happens with Gingerbread. I suppose it is going to have a faster file system and some prioritizing tweaks.
You make some valid points.... I still won't buy another sgs device but that's my choice. As far as gingerbread is concerned we're getting ahead of ourselves haha..... we don't have to go there though. At least not in this thread.
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It has to be something to do with the firmware. Why are all of the readings perfectly divisible by 16.4 feet? I only see this with the Galaxy S phones too. As far as the guess about government restricting accuracy, my friend's htc incredible bounces between 3 and 6 feet, and this lucky SOB gets down to 1 foot towards the end of the video!!!
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is there something to turn the hd2 into a real cycling computer ?
and i mean accurate like with a sensor on your tires wich registrate wheel rotations etc .
or is it possible for an hd2 to recieve ant+ signals from for example polar sensors ??
maybe something like pedalbrain for the iphone.
http://en.pedalbrain.com/how
even better, look on open market and you will find a cycle computer app which uses GPS. you won't get any cadence calc's with it though
yeh i know that program .
there are some programs for it .
i mostly use sportypal .
but cycling computer on gps isnt that accurate as when the info comes from the ant+ device on the wheel of the bike ..
and in forests the gps isnt always even good sometimes .
also when you standing stil for a minute the gps software keeps counting wich makes your results even less accurate.
and since its possible for the iphone , there must be a way for a hd2 to have something i guess..
jeez, the bikers tend to fall. the mobiles tend to break ;(
on the road bikers dont fall to often.
maybe in the woods .
but even then you have solid cases to put on your bike wich can protect the phone verry good,.
even if you dont wanna risk your expensive hd2 or something , then buy a used htc diamond for little money.
its stil more expensive then buyying an expensive polar bike computer
anyway if people wanna risk their phone or not i still wanna know if there is an option to make it
cyclocomp
Afraid I dont know of anything like that.
Like was said before, pay the money and buy a cheap cyclocomputer with spoke pickup.
I also mostly use SportyPal and while its not real accurate, it is more than sufficient for my needs.
It's not like I am an olympian in training or anything.
If I stop to chat or whatever, I think something like, "I must have spent like, 3 mins there talking to my mate at the lights, given that my ride maybe took me like 1 hour and I spent 3 mins stationary, then I may guestimate, or even better, get a calculator out and subtract 3 mins from your time and divide your distance as quoted on SportyPal by that time", type thing.
Just my halfpenny worth.
Oh dear, I feel I have been somewhat facetious, but then I do apologise wholeheartedly, as I have had a particularly sad day.
Regards.
Hei sportypal is quite good, and I hope it will be better in v. 2.
At the moment I prefer "Run GPS" its quite accurate and has for me det very important possibility to use extern heartrate monitor and candenz (Bluetooth).
Its not free:-( and I hope they will make better graphics.
GPS Cycle Computer v3.10 looks promising, but not accurate and could use heartrate belt. Unsure of the future dev on this?
I've never been one to buy into the cancer causing aspect of mobile phones, but after recently seeing the City of San Francisco pass a law requiring cell phones show there radiation output it got me thinking .
How much radiation does the N1 put out? How is that in comparison to other phones? Do smart phones put out higher amounts of radiation?
My biggest concern, and what got me thinking was the fact that until 6 mos. or so ago, I only had the phone near my head on the occasional phone call (duh).
But now I have a Nexus dock that I use as my alarm/bedside clock. This thing sits near my head 7-8 hrs every single night running bluetooth, etc.
Is there legitimate reason for concern?
I realize this should prolly go in the overall General thread, but I'm never up there and I'm mostly curious about the N1's radiation while using the desktop dock.
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I've never been one to buy into the cancer causing aspect of mobile phones, but after recently seeing the City of San Francisco pass a law requiring cell phones show there radiation output it got me thinking .
How much radiation does the N1 put out? How is that in comparison to other phones? Do smart phones put out higher amounts of radiation?
My biggest concern, and what got me thinking was the fact that until 6 mos. or so ago, I only had the phone near my head on the occasional phone call (duh).
But now I have a Nexus dock that I use as my alarm/bedside clock. This thing sits near my head 7-8 hrs every single night running bluetooth, etc.
Is there legitimate reason for concern?
I realize this should prolly go in the overall General thread, but I'm never up there and I'm mostly curious about the N1's radiation while using the desktop dock.
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If you're so worried. Move to a cave dude. Do you know how many "wireless" signals and radio transmissions there are in a city?
23548723958723985729837652983572 to be precise.
Why don't you get a Geiger Counter if you're that paranoid?
wait, every phone goes thru FCC testing and given a SAR's rating, and this info is available for every phone on the market. the nexus was rather low at around 0.7 if i remember. what is this radiation thing that san francisco is asking for? i thought it would be the same thing.
for more info on radiation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health
list of highest radiation phones:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6602_7-5020357-1.html
FCC says SAR is 0.37 head / 0.74 Body W/Kg for 1gram on GSM.
international standards use 2grams which would make it max at 1.39. The US max is 1.6
geiger meter isnt going to help -_-
what is this radiation thing that san francisco is asking for?
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/16/us/16cell.html
It's just simply a law that will require all retailers to display the amount of radiation each phone emits.
If you're so worried. Move to a cave dude. Do you know how many "wireless" signals and radio transmissions there are in a city?
23548723958723985729837652983572 to be precise.
Why don't you get a Geiger Counter if you're that paranoid?
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Easy Tiger, I'm not paranoid, just asking a question that I'm sure others have more knowledge about than I do.
And thanks to flybyme's helpful cnet link I found this piece of information:
If you're concerned about limiting your SAR exposure, you can take a few easy steps beyond purchasing a handset with a low SAR. You can text instead placing a voice call, use a speakerphone whenever possible, and carry your phone at least one inch from your body. Some researchers also caution against using your phone in areas with poor coverage since phones emit more radiation when searching for a signal. Children, which have smaller and thinner skulls, should limit cell phone use, and all users, children and adults, should not sleep with an active phone next to their bedside or under their pillow.
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plus, dont mobile phones emit the msot radiation when you're in a call?otherwise, when its standby all its doing is jus in the bath of EM waves that we all are in...
Did you not read the study that stated phone radiation actuality reduces the chances of developing Alzheimer's?
http://arstechnica.com/science/news...tion-may-show-reduced-alzheimers-symptoms.ars
Look there's even a picture of the N1 there. Look on PubMed or something for a definitive study.
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Did you not read the study that stated phone radiation actuality reduces the chances of developing Alzheimer's?
http://arstechnica.com/science/news...tion-may-show-reduced-alzheimers-symptoms.ars
Look there's even a picture of the N1 there. Look on PubMed or something for a definitive study.
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Yeah, and the fact that using a handphone also makes you smarter compared to those who don't use one.
http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/...why-consumer-reports-cant-recommend-iphone-4/
I hate to defend the iphone but....
Most phones have similiar issues. Even on the nexus we all love. I lose 3G/cell signal all the time when I cover the lower half of my phone. This is something common on all nexus unless you have 100% awesome signal.
I think this is why this has not been discussed on this part of the forum
1) This is supposed to be about the Nexus One, not the iphone
2) All of us N1 owners know the N1 also has radio problems.
That being said, I'll still say the nexus is the overall best phone there is.
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I hate to defend the iphone but....
Most phones have similiar issues. Even on the nexus we all love. I lose 3G/cell signal all the time when I cover the lower half of my phone. This is something common on all nexus unless you have 100% awesome signal.
I think this is why this has not been discussed on this part of the forum
1) This is supposed to be about the Nexus One, not the iphone
2) All of us N1 owners know the N1 also has radio problems.
That being said, I'll still say the nexus is the overall best phone there is.
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I agree with everything you said, including the last part about the overall superiority of the N1.
table: -75dBm
hand in front of me: -85dBm
next to my ear: -79dBm
That's my N1
But the news is for iPhone not for Nexus so not relevant dor this part of the forum (or any else i guess)
I dont know why people keep saying "this is common among all phones"
No its NOT.
1. You are never in direct contact with the actual antenna on other phones.
2. It usually takes a full grip to replicate this on other phones. Even then loss is not as significant as you are still merely muffling a signal not physically shorting the antenna process.
The iphone merely needs the gap bridged for it to dramatically lose signal to the point of dropping calls almost instantaneously.
The issues the N1 had were getting and maintaining a fix on 3G signals. A far cry from dropping endless calls because you were holding it wrong.
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The issues the N1 had were getting and maintaining a fix on 3G signals. A far cry from dropping endless calls because you were holding it wrong.
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No, there are plenty of reports of a dramatic drop in signal strength when you cover the back of the N1 with your hand. Not exactly the same thing as iPhone 4, but still a signal issue caused by antenna placement, so definitely in the same ballpark.
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No, there are plenty of reports of a dramatic drop in signal strength when you cover the back of the N1 with your hand. Not exactly the same thing as iPhone 4, but still a signal issue caused by antenna placement, so definitely in the same ballpark.
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Again, it's not even close to the same issue. On the N1, you can muffle the antenna a bit; on the iphone 4, you can actually electrically short it out.
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Again, it's not even close to the same issue. On the N1, you can muffle the antenna a bit; on the iphone 4, you can actually electrically short it out.
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This smacks of rationalization to me. People report dropped calls as a result of how they hold the phone. Whether it's because the antenna is "muffled" on the N1 or "shorts" on the iPhone, the result is the same from the user's perspective. In fact, the iPhone issue is arguably less of a problem because you can solve it with a case. I love my Nexus One, but I don't think we do ourselves any favors as consumers by rationalizing the phone's shortcomings.
Ummm...how is this related to Nexus One general?
jz9833 said:
I hate to defend the iphone but....
Most phones have similiar issues. Even on the nexus we all love. I lose 3G/cell signal all the time when I cover the lower half of my phone. This is something common on all nexus unless you have 100% awesome signal.
I think this is why this has not been discussed on this part of the forum
1) This is supposed to be about the Nexus One, not the iphone
2) All of us N1 owners know the N1 also has radio problems.
That being said, I'll still say the nexus is the overall best phone there is.
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The issue with the iPhone isn't that it has signal attenuation when held normally. All phones do indeed have that problem. The issue is the amount of attenuation. The iPhone 4 loses about 20 decibels of signal when held normally, the N1 loses 5-10 decibels, which doesn't mean that the iPhone loses 4 times as much signal. Decibels are an exponential metric, 10db loss is a tenfold increase/decrease, 20db is a hundredfold increase/decrease. If you use the "death grip" on the iPhone, you might see a 30db loss, yeah that's 1000x. That's why a lot of people didn't even realize that phones did this until now, the iPhone is particularly bad at this phenomenon.
There's a workaround to avoid losing signal when talking, and it's applicable with ALL phone with antenna at the bottom:
Just hold the phone top part when talking and keep hand off the bottom, but it's not possible when doing internet or messaging, or email.
When holding the phone for messaging, try to spread out fingers.
Sounds like Apple is trying to start a new FAD LoL...hope it doesn't catch on!
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There's a workaround to avoid losing signal when talking, and it's applicable with ALL phone with antenna at the bottom:
Just hold the phone top part when talking and keep hand off the bottom, but it's not possible when doing internet or messaging, or email.
When holding the phone for messaging, try to spread out fingers.
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which is ridiculous and something a consumer shouldnt have to do. Its very annoying to not be able to hold my phone how it naturally feels to while watching/listening to anything streaming.
its really not that hard to fix this, just make a vertical antenna that way you address the heath hazard of an antenna next to your ear, and still not sacrifice much signal.
Wow, another feature that Apple will try to pass off as being first. HTC was the first to have dropped signal, dammit!!
(Tongue in cheek, guys. I realize the seriousness of the iP4's reception woes is much worse than the N1's.)
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The issue with the iPhone isn't that it has signal attenuation when held normally. All phones do indeed have that problem. The issue is the amount of attenuation. The iPhone 4 loses about 20 decibels of signal when held normally, the N1 loses 5-10 decibels, which doesn't mean that the iPhone loses 4 times as much signal. Decibels are an exponential metric, 10db loss is a tenfold increase/decrease, 20db is a hundredfold increase/decrease. If you use the "death grip" on the iPhone, you might see a 30db loss, yeah that's 1000x. That's why a lot of people didn't even realize that phones did this until now, the iPhone is particularly bad at this phenomenon.
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There are reports of a 20dBm loss in signal strength from the way you hold the Nexus One:
If you go to Settings -> About Phone -> Status you will see a display for "Signal strength". When my phone is sitting on the desk, the signal stays consistent. However, the second I touch my phone, the signal drops up to as much as -20 dBm. I am able to replicate this test every single time, whether the signal is incredibly strong or weak.
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Google's "solution" was basically the same as Apple's -- i.e., hold the phone differently.
Weird, my Nexus One is just fine...........................
WRONG FORUM. Who cares.
Thread moved to OT.
what i specifically want to know is WHY is the nexus' antenna so sensitive compared to other phones. all my nokia phones would lose signal too when covering the antenna, but it seems like nokia and other phones use a moving average to calculate signal strength, over a period of the last 10 secconds or so. so that when the signal is blocked, it takes a few seconds to even start to drop. but the nexus almost seems to give dBm in real time, with no moving average at all. cause the dBm can drop intantly when blocking the antenna.
this is why i try to say that HTC just uses different bars, but the signal reception is no worse than other phones. it just shows in real time.
anyway i was at ATT store yesterday, and all 4 iphone 4's drop from 5 bars to 1 bar just by touching the lower left side. not even squeezing, just lightly pressing it. all 4 units. so what are these new phones doing with antenna that causes them to be so sensitive?
also, about the nexus, we have to think that because the nexus is only 9mm thick, the internal antenna is only seperated from our hand by barely 1 mm or so. so we too are detuning the antenna. its not a short like iphone, but close to it.
Consumer Reports confirms iPhone 4 antenna problems
By Nilay Patel posted Jul 12th 2010 1:30PM
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Enough about the iPhone in the Nexus forum. Please!
Honestly speaking, Samsung's gps has always been very iffy for me. I have never had much luck, even on the galaxy s, the nexus s and even the galaxy sii
So out of curiosity I bought this the other day from amazon.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/BlueNEXT-Bl...LZYE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322111372&sr=8-1
It is a Blue Next Bluetooth key chain gps receiver BN-902MM. The second I switched on, it was able to hook up to quite a few satellites and gave me quite an accurate location. It still had a little trouble with the turns but over all very impressed with this. Another benefit aside from the more accurate location, seems to be better battery compared to using the internal gps. Although this is more just an observation and not so much with actual testing.
This thread is not so much as a review or anything, more as this is sweet and thought I share with you guys.
If you have any specific tests that you like me to run using this, just ask
Just a quick introduction why I am writing this.
I've got technical background with a zillion years of experience in the electronics world ... and yes I'm a bit of a tech nerd. I will not go through the list of phones I owned but the last year it were a couple of Huawei's, Samsung S6, S7 etc etc... So I've never had a real 'China' phone and never had one with a MTK chipset and since I got a really nice deal on this one I bought the 6GB/64GB version for a steal.
I will not go through the unboxing since that is the ultimate crap youtube for me. Open the box, take the phone, cable and charger out and throw the box in the cabinet.
I've read people complain about wifi, camera etc and so I wanted to test this on a bit more than what you see is what you get level.
Wifi : absolutely no issue at all. Works perfectly on my Asus and Linksys 2.4GHz and 5GHz routers. To test this I installed wifi analyser and speed test from the play store. Range, I can see my neighbors wifi as good on the Alpha as on the S7 that is right next to it. Maybe slightly less on the Maze but just a bit.
Throughput. Well not as good as the S7 BUT more than good enough and explainable. The Maze is a single channel and it's max locking speed on 5GHz N is 135Mbps here which results in about 60Mbps download which is the max since it is half duplex. More than good enough for surfing, youtube and whatever.
10 meters further on and behind 1 thick wall I still have about the same speed which is excellent to me.
GPS : Since everyone was complaining about GPS with these MTK chipsets and since I am very much into GPS this was something I was looking out for to test. Test program used : Androits GPS and Google Maps. Cloudy and in the middle of my garden. Wow, didn't take long, probably 5 to 10 seconds and got a lock on 20 out of 20 visible sats. Ladies and gentlemen, there is more to it than a lock and the amount of sats. A couple of the sats over 40 dB snr and a lot of other in the 30 dB snr which is really good. But then the typical MTK which I saw in other reviews... accuracy 1m ... right. Open Google Maps and I am standing in my neighbors garden, mmm 1m accuracy my ... . After a while it slowly crawled into the correct spot and followed me around when I moved around. So, still a bit of a different behavior than the regular Qualcomm. Also now that I am typing this I didn't see any Beidou sats but I consider the amount of locked more than enough.
camera : As many have said not really top and especially comparing this to my S7 .. I will not do this. But good enough for posting on social media and a de-noise program on the pc also helped.
fingerprint : read some comments as 'the screen doesn't come on quickly, there is some delay' djeez, get a life guys. Comparing this to the S6 I had 10 months ago this one works extremely well and very fast.
There are some other things I am noticing and that I am currently checking. The charger that is supplied is a fast charge type, meaning in this case one that has 5V, 9V and 12V output. Well I haven't really drained it down completely yet but I checked the voltage and current. The voltage on my meter showed 5.35 V (which is actually a bit over the 5V default spec) and like 1.9 Amp current. So according to me at this moment the phone doesn't have any real fast charge (yet to test when fully empty, it was at 73%) but the redmi note 4 from my wife also doesn't have this and with a 4000mAh batt it means that it should become full in about 2 h to 2h30 since it should slow down charging above 80 or 90%. I find that more than fast enough since the old Huawei P8 that I tested only charged at 1 Amp max.
Now as some as you said the USB-C connector .... yes, seems a bit strange and 2 of my cables do not really fit well. They charge but the slightest movement and it is a no go, seems the connector is too deep into the device. Now I have a bunch of regular micro usb to c convertors and they are working perfectly. 4 for 1 euro or dollar and that issue is fixed for me.
The FM radio, well reception is not top notch and the stereo, or the lack of it is weird. Standing in the garden I had 1 station that I could hear stereo separation while I know the other ones are also very strong in signal strength and the stereo decoding did not happen. RDS works fine so it must be a threshold setting in the software why stereo did not work as it should. Also you can record FM which is really nice.
As far as the earpiece as I heard people complain about it. Installed my sim and dialed my voicemail. Yes, it should be a bit louder. It is a bit strange because the speaker is at the edge of the device but it sounded 'full' and nice. Maybe if we can root it we can alter the xml with the sound settings and bump it up a little.
4G seemed to work perfectly.
So far my second day of playing around a bit but I actually like it. Now need to get me a Xiaomi silicon case because this thing will eventually get to test Newtons law.
I have to agree with everything you have said, except for where you went indepth on sats as I haven't done that. I am loving this phone and currently there is only one other phone I would consider to replace it with, the elephone s8 in hopes the camera would be much much better.
When driving, google maps did disconnect on the odd occasion which I dont know is acceptable or not but as far as I can tell, it works better than my previous MTK phones which has been most of them.
I've just installed the Jan2018 update (4GB) but I missed the update reasons.
I've had my phone since mid October. :good: on the whole I am impressed. Average use is two days between charge.
codQuore said:
I have to agree with everything you have said, except for where you went indepth on sats as I haven't done that. I am loving this phone and currently there is only one other phone I would consider to replace it with, the elephone s8 in hopes the camera would be much much better.
When driving, google maps did disconnect on the odd occasion which I dont know is acceptable or not but as far as I can tell, it works better than my previous MTK phones which has been most of them.
I've just installed the Jan2018 update (4GB) but I missed the update reasons.
I've had my phone since mid October. :good: on the whole I am impressed. Average use is two days between charge.
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Well due to the festive days haven't really had time to play but tested some stuff again. Went outside with my S7 and the Alpha and checked on Google Maps. S7 said 3 meter accuracy and the Alpha 1 meter on Androits gps. When checking on the S7 I was spot on maps where I was standing, maybe 1 meter away but with the Alpha I was like 5 meters off.
I haven't had time to use it in the car. Since my new car has Android Auto I have not had a phone holder in it. (keeps my eyes on the road)
Maybe give 'GPS test' from Chartcross limited a try. Just go outside and start it up. Check the values above the bars. I consider above 35 (which should be dB snr, signal to noise ratio) to be good. That it lost lock might be another reason, does that happen on a regular basis or was that a 1 off?
lukesan said:
Well due to the festive days haven't really had time to play but tested some stuff again. Went outside with my S7 and the Alpha and checked on Google Maps. S7 said 3 meter accuracy and the Alpha 1 meter on Androits gps. When checking on the S7 I was spot on maps where I was standing, maybe 1 meter away but with the Alpha I was like 5 meters off.
I haven't had time to use it in the car. Since my new car has Android Auto I have not had a phone holder in it. (keeps my eyes on the road)
Maybe give 'GPS test' from Chartcross limited a try. Just go outside and start it up. Check the values above the bars. I consider above 35 (which should be dB snr, signal to noise ratio) to be good. That it lost lock might be another reason, does that happen on a regular basis or was that a 1 off?
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I'll give that app a test when I next go out, want to try it in the car and if/when I lose lock. It happened a few times in over 1,000 miles of driving but was quick to reconnect therefor emuch better than previous MTK phones.