[Q] Nandroid vs CWR backup - Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Which is better? I've used both haven't really noticed a difference (restoring the backup) both seem to do the job. I've been using RA and nandroid but had to switch to cwr to install aosp 0.1.2 gb rom cuz RA wouldn't do it so can someone explain the difference?
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What version of RA you using?

oohaylima said:
What version of RA you using?
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I'm using 1.5.2 but I've talked to others in the forum that couldn't get gb to work with 1.7
Sent from my Hero running aosp 0.1.2 GB take that Sprint!

Bump still need an answer if someone can please explain this to me
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btaylor545 said:
Bump still need an answer if someone can please explain this to me
Sent from my Hero running aosp 0.1.2 GB take that Sprint!
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well I use 1.7 but I have to go thru alot of steps to get aosp's GB to run.
Flash CM6 let it boot wipe dalvik-cache,wipe cache
Flash AOSP GB let it boot
Flash Gapps
Then it runs pretty good but still don't like some othe bugs IMHO

FdxRider said:
well I use 1.7 but I have to go thru alot of steps to get aosp's GB to run.
Flash CM6 let it boot wipe dalvik-cache,wipe cache
Flash AOSP GB let it boot
Flash Gapps
Then it runs pretty good but still don't like some othe bugs IMHO
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Heh tried that with 1.5.2 didn't work sent me into boot loops or would install gb but not gapps clockwork mod worked easily. Just flashed aosp 2.2 then full wipe then flashed 0.1.2 the gapps no need to flash then restart then flash gapps. Im just wondering if theirs a difference between amon ra's nandroid backup and cwr backup if so which is the better of the 2.
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Y not just flash Darch's 1.7 and see if it will work for you from your post it seems like you've just read about others experience without giving it a go for yourself..... every phone is different no two are the same and no to users are the same hence forth every ones experience will differ IMO I think you should just try it and see!!!! There's always nanddroid good luck
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To answer your question...
Both do the same thing. They make an exact copy of your system, data, and boot partitions and if you choose the ext partition on the sdcard.
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unCoRrUpTeD said:
To answer your question...
Both do the same thing. They make an exact copy of your system, data, and boot partitions and if you choose the ext partition on the sdcard.
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So both perform the same core function, it's just the GUI and added tasks that are different. Correct?

unCoRrUpTeD said:
To answer your question...
Both do the same thing. They make an exact copy of your system, data, and boot partitions and if you choose the ext partition on the sdcard.
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Cool thanks for the info I thought they both did the same core functions and since its as I thought ill keep using the cwr it does seem to have the better GUI. Plus it seems a tad faster at backing up/ restoring at least I think so.
Thanks for answering my question unCoRrUpTeD
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Cyanogen to Hero

How do I switch to cyanogen rom to a hero rom properly?
Which hero rom do I choose? "Best rom"
If I do nandroid backup will my apps from my ext3 be restored?
Don't want to get rid of my apps
I've tried two different roms drizzy hero & JacxHero but on drizzy I get stuck on some htc smart mobilty screen and on Jacs I get stuck on boot loops please help just want to go back to hero for a little while
if you go from a AOSP rom to a hero rom you have to wipe your ext3 and phone. a nandroid will not restore your ext3 bc it only backs up your phone. there is a thread in the dev forum called want to run hero, read this first. i suggest searching for it and reading it.
Hmmm......How bout if I switch sd cards. As in having 1 card for the hero and then when I go back to an AOSP ROM use the card that has the partitions in em with apps
david1171 said:
if you go from a AOSP rom to a hero rom you have to wipe your ext3 and phone. a nandroid will not restore your ext3 bc it only backs up your phone. there is a thread in the dev forum called want to run hero, read this first. i suggest searching for it and reading it.
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Bah! I've switched from Cyan to Jac several times in a day without wiping my ext
Btw, Scooty Puff junior ftw =P
Anyway, my advise is go for this ROM, and go for version 1.51, not 1.54, it's much faster. I didn't have to wipe my ext3 when using that ROM. The fact that Drizzy's builds required a clean ext is the reason I've never flashed any of his builds (amongst other thing, but lets not start a flame war)...
AdrianK said:
Bah! I've switched from Cyan to Jac several times in a day without wiping my ext
Btw, Scooty Puff junior ftw =P
Anyway, my advise is go for this ROM, and go for version 1.51, not 1.54, it's much faster. I didn't have to wipe my ext3 when using that ROM. The fact that Drizzy's builds required a clean ext is the reason I've never flashed any of his builds (amongst other thing, but lets not start a flame war)...
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Thankx ! just the type of a reply I was looking for. Gonna install the ROM you reffered me to but I want a jac build and stay in boot loop. Should I just install 1.5.1 then wipe and install jacs?
AndroidFiend said:
Thankx ! just the type of a reply I was looking for. Gonna install the ROM you reffered me to but I want a jac build and stay in boot loop. Should I just install 1.5.1 then wipe and install jacs?
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Honestly I would just stick with 1.5.1. Ive used JACs latest hero build and many of the HERO2 builds and 1.5.1 was by far the best.
just2good4u3434 said:
Honestly I would just stick with 1.5.1. Ive used JACs latest hero build and many of the HERO2 builds and 1.5.1 was by far the best.
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Flashing now stayed on Black screen for 10+ minutes...rebooted and still stuck on black screen
AdrianK said:
Bah! I've switched from Cyan to Jac several times in a day without wiping my ext
Btw, Scooty Puff junior ftw =P
Anyway, my advise is go for this ROM, and go for version 1.51, not 1.54, it's much faster. I didn't have to wipe my ext3 when using that ROM. The fact that Drizzy's builds required a clean ext is the reason I've never flashed any of his builds (amongst other thing, but lets not start a flame war)...
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would you suggest just staying on 1.5.1 and not updating even to .2 or .3 (i know you said dont get 1.5.4)
Its impossible for me to install hero I've tried 3 and tried doing the 1.5.1 rom but I get stuck on the black screen. Please help me on how to install this perfectly from a cyanogen 4.1.11.1 rom
AndroidFiend said:
Its impossible for me to install hero I've tried 3 and tried doing the 1.5.1 rom but I get stuck on the black screen. Please help me on how to install this perfectly from a cyanogen 4.1.11.1 rom
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Believe me, this ROM is blazingly fast compared to 2.1jacheroskiv. 1.5.1 will stay on the black screen for a long time, but not 10 mintes, just wipe your ext
go to the recovery console:
mount -o rw /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /system/sd
rm -r /system/sd/*
wipe, reflash, reboot...
AndroidFiend said:
Its impossible for me to install hero I've tried 3 and tried doing the 1.5.1 rom but I get stuck on the black screen. Please help me on how to install this perfectly from a cyanogen 4.1.11.1 rom
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i use backup for root users backing up apps. It works for me. APPS ONLY though idk bout anything else. try that
omg no one mentions the switchrom.sh script?!?!
you all fail at Q&A
switchrom will backup your apps and dalvik cache and do a nandroid backup. search for it in the dev forum.
I flashed hero and it got onto screen perfectly but stays on htc logo
What's happening?
When I wiped ext3 it said resource or file something is busy....what does that mean?
Doesnt hero require 3 partitions... i mean, you have that done right?
Nahh I only have 2 but you don't really need swap....but I am going to repartition my card with linux swap later on this week but still I am stuck on htc screen after it boots up I can only acess lockscreen
AndroidFiend said:
When I wiped ext3 it said resource or file something is busy....what does that mean?
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You wiped from the recovery console, not the terminal right?
AdrianK said:
You wiped from the recovery console, not the terminal right?
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I did this exactly
Clear dalvik cach
Clear ext3
Go back wipe
Fixed filesystem
Hero didn't work
Then I. Just cleared ext3
Wipe
Fixed filesystem
Hero booted up but stays on htc screen
And still said the resource thing is busy when I tried to clear ext3
AndroidFiend said:
Nahh I only have 2 but you don't really need swap....but I am going to repartition my card with linux swap later on this week but still I am stuck on htc screen after it boots up I can only acess lockscreen
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It seems that with hero you are required to have all three partitions, whether you use them all or not... but I would recommend a 64mb partition and set linux-swap with 60 swappiness and it should be good...
EDIT: if you want your g1 to work until you repartition your SD, just stick with cyanogen...
prince.siraj said:
It seems that with hero you are required to have all three partitions, whether you use them all or not... but I would recommend a 64mb partition and set linux-swap with 60 swappiness and it should be good...
EDIT: if you want your g1 to work until you repartition your SD, just stick with cyanogen...
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if I partition my sd card with 64 mb swap would that do anything to cyanogen rom besides making it faster?
AndroidFiend said:
if I partition my sd card with 64 mb swap would that do anything to cyanogen rom besides making it faster?
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i have noticed no ill effects of it.

Help: Problem Flashing Any 2.1 ROM's

I cant flash any 2.1 Roms. I could only nandroid restore my backed up 1.5 stock rom. I can't restore my 2.1 Sushi Rom. Whats the problem? I went from Fresh Toast to try and flash a 2.1 rom. and partitioned my SD card in between to a FAT32.
sandboxlove said:
nandroid corrupted? when you say you cant flash, do you mean after a clean wipe and flash, or you cant restore...?
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It does restore and flash but doesnt boot. any 2.1 rom even if its a backed up but it does restore my backed up 1.5 rom (Stock). i tried everything. i just flashed the RA again. 1.6.2 and its booting. I fixed it sorry
sandboxlove said:
im glad you got it working
fyi, you should post questions like this in the general section
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No one is at the questions section or wants to go over there to answer noobs questions.
So yup thats why i posted it here.

flashing new rom to cdma hero I NEED HELP

im using the cdma hero with fresh 2.4 rom on it i wanted to move to the new cm6.0.
and i assume the nightly rom on the cm site is for my phone...right? buttttt
i deleted the files for what i believe is my nandroid back up and apparently never put them on my computer....is there a way to get around this? or am i screwed?? do i have to unroot? then root, flash?
is there a 1 click root?
AND idk how to get out of root..so a link to a guide or maybe a quick way to do it would be nice...thank you for all the help. if you need more info in order to assist ill be glad to tell you.
I'm confused. Did you already flash CM6 or do you want to? If you haven't why don't you just do another nandroid backup. If you already flashed CM 6 and are trying to get back to Fresh, then you are SOL.
Yes, there is a 1-click root, but I forgot where I saw it at.
Thread moved in Hero CDMA Q&A.
Well I'm on fresh right now. I want to move to cm 6. Do I always have to do a nandroid restore when flashing a new Rom? I assumed you did.
But I cannot do a nandroid restore bc it tell me "cannot open directory no files found"
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crazyninjah1992 said:
Well I'm on fresh right now. I want to move to cm 6. Do I always have to do a nandroid restore when flashing a new Rom? I assumed you did.
But I cannot do a nandroid restore bc it tell me "cannot open directory no files found"
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No these are the steps to move to cm6
1. Nandroid backup (when people say nandroid first they mean a backup).
1.5 update your prl, radio, profile if they are out of date (optional)
2. wipe dalvik and factory wipe phone.
3. flash new rom.
4. enjoy.
Here are the CM6 nightlies for the CDMA Hero. If you perform a nandroid backup you are copying your system in the exact state that it is so that if something happens you can revert back to it. When you perform a nandroid restore you are reverting back to the state at which you ran the nandroid backup. Most people recommend doing a nandroid backup before flashing a new rom. You do not do a nandroid restore when flashing a new rom. Just make sure you do a full wipe and wipe dalvik before flashing a new rom.
Ooh okay wow that's gonna help! can i update the prl and all that by just going system updates? and updating there?
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thank you!
am i better off downloading the cm 6 rc1 froyo build? thats more stable then the nightlies? ccan i use rom manager to update the nightly?
crazyninjah1992 said:
Ooh okay wow that's gonna help! can i update the prl and all that by just going system updates? and updating there?
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Yes but only in Sense Roms CM6 and AOSP roms dont have this functionality (keep your last fresh nandroid for this purpose). Before you move to CM6 update all of that and then flash CM6. Then anytime you need to update any of that stuff in the future (prl, pri, profile) you can do a nadroid and then go back to your Fresh backup and restore then update it and then restore back to cm6.
okay! thank you very much!
and the nightlies? i dont mind using experimental roms as long as i can use like rom manager to just update it i dont wanna flash a new rom every day..

New recovery 3.0.0.5

Can this new recovery be used to flash CyanogenMod 6.1.1??? I just got the new recovery update on rom manager and was going to flash cyanogenmod 6.1.1 and just checking. I thought the new recovery was for flashing Gingerbread roms?? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Vinny
I don't see why not. You can try and if it don't work you can flash an older version in ROM Manager
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Can this new recovery be used to flash CyanogenMod 6.1.1??? I just got the new recovery update on rom manager and was going to flash cyanogenmod 6.1.1 and just checking. I thought the new recovery was for flashing Gingerbread roms?? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Vinny
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I am not sure about that. But one thing for sure is it is not good for MM's CM7. I have loop-reboot problem with this. I cannot even restore to any custom roms except my froyo stock. :-( Now, I have to downgrade to 2.5.x.x to see if my custom roms work again.
See development section.
EDIT: I successfully restore other custom roms using lower version of Clockworkmod. But the loop-reboot problem of MM's CM7 remains the same.
I guess I won't find out until I try. Newly rooted and going to give CyanogenMod a try. Know I am going to be happy as hell with it.
Thanks
The new recovery should be fine with flashing any roms. As for any standing problems with it, im am uncertain. You may want to wait 2 weeks or so to see if their are any problems from people using it. Personally I like Amon ra so i cant say.
ricky9237 said:
I am not sure about that. But one thing for sure is it is not good for MM's CM7. I have loop-reboot problem with this. I cannot even restore to any custom roms except my froyo stock. :-( Now, I have to downgrade to 2.5.x.x to see if my custom roms work again.
See development section.
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A full wipe is necessary to upgrade to gingerbread roms from any lower android versions. Did u full wipe? + Dalvik cache wipe?
mikeacela said:
A full wipe is necessary to upgrade to gingerbread roms from any lower android versions. Did u full wipe? + Dalvik cache wipe?
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Yes. I did full wipe on everything. I even fix permission. No luck at all.
ricky9237 said:
I am not sure about that. But one thing for sure is it is not good for MM's CM7. I have loop-reboot problem with this. I cannot even restore to any custom roms except my froyo stock. :-( Now, I have to downgrade to 2.5.x.x to see if my custom roms work again.
See development section.
EDIT: I successfully restore other custom roms using lower version of Clockworkmod. But the loop-reboot problem of MM's CM7 remains the same.
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I used it to flash and install tonight's build successfully...
I have a "side question".
To flash any GingerBread flavor, do we need 3.x.x.x ou 2.5.x.x is working?
I haven't give CM7 a try yet, but I'm not sure if I need/want to upgrade to 3.x.x.x, 2.5.1.4 work well for me.
DumbUglyDragon said:
I used it to flash and install tonight's build successfully...
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I got it too. No more crazy rebooting. I solve it by reformatting my SD card and recreating ext3. I guess 3.0.0.5 recovery messed up my ext3 partition. Now, MM CM14 is working pretty well. FYI, I am using 2.5.1.4 recovery.
Yeah it was working good till I try to do a restore, lets just say I;m up all night trying to restore my phone. I think my EXT partition messed up too as DTa2sd is giving me all kinda of headache.
doesn't work with MIUI for me!
don't understand that, but luckily its not a big deal flashing older versions!
baseballfanz said:
Yeah it was working good till I try to do a restore, lets just say I;m up all night trying to restore my phone. I think my EXT partition messed up too as DTa2sd is giving me all kinda of headache.
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I hear you there! That was me last night! DON'T USE 3.0.0.5! The only fix I found to actually work was to completely format my SD card and then re-partition it, then use RA and a fresh install. What a pain in the arse!
Same thing here. Switched to 3.0.0.5, and the next thing, my ext was fried and I had to reformat the entire card. Could be coincidence, but...
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Nandroid work for cm7?

I want to try some kernels for cm 7.1 to see if ocing could help speed up some games. If I don't like them I would like to get stock kernel back and I know I can't use sgs kernel flasher to back up current kernel because cm7 is different. I think I read that you could do a Nandroid and this would back up the current complete setup. Is this true? (sorry can't seem to search efficiently on this Tapatalk and don't have access to a computer). If so does it also backup apps, data and all? Is it done on the backup rom from rom manager or recovery? Thank you for your help.
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nandroid backs up everything just as it is. definitely use cwm not rom manager.
you could also just put d/l the stable kernel as a cwm flashable zip.
2 cents
fractaline said:
nandroid backs up everything just as it is. definitely use cwm not rom manager.
you could also just put d/l the stable kernel as a cwm flashable zip.
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Thank you for your help. Where can I find the kernel?
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Don't know for sure (I don't run cm7), but I would check the op of the cm7 thread.
fractaline said:
nandroid backs up everything just as it is. definitely use cwm not rom manager.
you could also just put d/l the stable kernel as a cwm flashable zip.
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nandroids do not backup kernel or modem.
have you ever made a backup of one set up and tried to restore onto a completly different rom? well if you have then you know there is a high chance that it will bootloop because of a now incompatible kernel. the procedure for a proper nandroid restore is to flash the rom it was backed up on (thus flashing the kernel that is compatible with it) and THEN restoring the nandroid. then it will be like you never flashed away from that rom at all. (this is speaking of tw roms as i have never run an aosp so i could be mistaken about it not backing up kernel on cm7)
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nandroids do not backup kernel or modem.
have you ever made a backup of one set up and tried to restore onto a completly different rom? well if you have then you know there is a high chance that it will bootloop because of a now incompatible kernel. the procedure for a proper nandroid restore is to flash the rom it was backed up on (thus flashing the kernel that is compatible with it) and THEN restoring the nandroid. then it will be like you never flashed away from that rom at all. (this is speaking of tw roms as i have never run an aosp so i could be mistaken about it not backing up kernel on cm7)
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Yea, I kinda thought that, but thought it worked for cm7.
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