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att tilt keyboard problem

Hey guys, i have a huge problem with my tilt, it is driving me crazy. My keyboard is acting crazy. When i press some keys it will give me a double key, like if i press i or o it will write io, and i know that they are close together and that mite be the problem but sometime if i press R it writes ri or ro, its really only with these 3 keys. I was wondering if anyone out there had this problem (funny i had this problem with the phone i had this replaced with the p990i) and how to solve it. i really hope its not a hardware problem cuz i bougth the damn phone from someone on ebay, brand new.
please help, i have the htc rom installed, sleuth 1.0. thanks guys, i appreciate it alot

I had the same problem. It is a bad keyboard membrane. You will need to replace the membrane or send it in for repair. I had att replace me.

great. i dont have att so that means that i will have to sent it to htc right?
damn i never get anything good on ebay (and i keep telling myself that it will be the last time i buy something from ebay). I mean the damn phone was new.
So can i contact htc and send it to them and will they replace it for free? cuz sure att isnt since i have no account with them.

r3awak3n said:
great. i dont have att so that means that i will have to sent it to htc right?
damn i never get anything good on ebay (and i keep telling myself that it will be the last time i buy something from ebay). I mean the damn phone was new.
So can i contact htc and send it to them and will they replace it for free? cuz sure att isnt since i have no account with them.
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If you bought it BRAND new, sure!! Forget the bull**** on HTC's website about proof of purchase. The Ebay receipt print off is good enough or your cred card statement for the purchase (erase the rest for anything else!!! ). Just as anywhere else, DON'T take no for an answer.

yeah, im not gonna get no for an answer for sure. i paid good money for this. I think i am gonna get my friend to send it to att so i can get a replacement right away, now i gotta flash it back to att crap rom and hope my friend is up to, i heard htc takes its time to get things done and that would mean no phone for 1 month. damn this sucks, thx for the support guys.

r3awak3n said:
yeah, im not gonna get no for an answer for sure. i paid good money for this. I think i am gonna get my friend to send it to att so i can get a replacement right away, now i gotta flash it back to att crap rom and hope my friend is up to, i heard htc takes its time to get things done and that would mean no phone for 1 month. damn this sucks, thx for the support guys.
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Check this place out first, they deliver anywhere,
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
Found on a 'Bork'?? thread here.

do you by any chance have htc keyboard+keypad installed?
try uninstalling if you have it in there.

seriously? now peoples keyboards are F'ing up? damn.. what is next
I've already gone through so many I've lost count. Frys Electronics is getting tired of me coming into their store every other day with another problem on a new Tilt, lol
First it was the side scroll wheel, it didn't even work
Second was the usb port, it was so tight that when I went to take the usb charger off it, it pulled the usb port out some with it.
Third and most recent was a dead pixel and a slider that closed too far.
Do I just have bad luck? lol

dont have anything installed, just did a hard reset so no progs installed. it looks like its screwed up and how lucky it is exaclty the sam prob as my p990i (which i thought was software problem) but its not.

I killed my HTC TyTN II "Solved"

I killed my Kaiser by flashing a Touch Diamond ROM to it.
Sent it to repair service and they say the Mainboard needs to be replaced,but the price for repair is ultragious .
I realy need the device,it was a big help in my confused life style.
Can anyone tell me how can i fix it myself. Or where i can buy a mainboard. Or where can i send the device to repair for a cheaper service?
Sorry i have started a new thread,but i think this is a serious matter,cause HTC TyTN II is not a toy"I know i done to it the same as to a toy" and its expensive. Please help.
Thanks in advance for all your help guys.
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why would you flash a touch diamond rom when your device is a kaiser?

CraZyLiLbOy said:
why would you flash a touch diamond rom when your device is a kaiser?
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Duhhhhh.....'cause he wanted to kill his device!

sherpa said:
Duhhhhh.....'cause he wanted to kill his device!
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lol....................

Blueangel69 said:
I killed my Kaiser by flashing a Touch Diamond ROM to it.
Sent it to repair service and they say the Mainboard needs to be replaced,but the price for repair is ultragious .
I realy need the device,it was a big help in my confused life style.
Can anyone tell me how can i fix it myself. Or where i can buy a mainboard. Or where can i send the device to repair for a cheaper service?
Sorry i have started a new thread,but i think this is a serious matter,cause HTC TyTN II is not a toy"I know i done to it the same as to a toy" and its expensive. Please help.
Thanks in advance for all your help guys.
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Touch diamond isn't all that great. It's lyk a Nokia platform on a PDA, why'd u flash it to a kaiser anyway ?!
About the raw materials, you can easily get the main board (for cheep) through any cellphone spareparts shop online through google . As far as repair is concerned, its as easy as performing a hardware upgrade for your pc; un-plug--> plug. If you're still scared, you can google for a stp by stp instructions.

Blueangel69 said:
I killed my Kaiser by flashing a Touch Diamond ROM to it.
Sent it to repair service and they say the Mainboard needs to be replaced,but the price for repair is ultragious .
I realy need the device,it was a big help in my confused life style.
Can anyone tell me how can i fix it myself. Or where i can buy a mainboard. Or where can i send the device to repair for a cheaper service?
Sorry i have started a new thread,but i think this is a serious matter,cause HTC TyTN II is not a toy"I know i done to it the same as to a toy" and its expensive. Please help.
Thanks in advance for all your help guys.
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your not the only one with a confused life style

Not dead,just sleeping
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As for where to purchase parts, I'd normally tell you to go here: http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~HTC_TyTN_II-972~area~home.htm but they don't have motherboards.
Your best bet might be to buy something from eBay with a cracked screen, because the motherboard, cpu & chipset is usually the most expensive part, and if you fry that it's usually easier to just buy new...
Hope this helps!
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Thankx Alex.
I knew that wise words and advice would come out of the inner you.
I went to Mike Channon Home Page and left a message there,im still waiting for a reply.
I will go get the Device from the repair shop tomorrow. Ididnt accepted the price.
I will try and fix it myself,as i have the hability to fix Electronic things as PCs,Laptops,Mobiles etc,thank GOD.
Im low on economic status,but i will try Ebay my friend.
First Kitchen i used was the one with all your OEM Packages. So i love your work.
Hope you keep up in the good path of life .
For some of the others, should ignore any inconscient reply.
Of course i didn wanted to kill my Device. I just cooked HTC Touch Diamond ROM in a Kaiser Kitchen,added some Apps from the ROM i cooked based on C. Stu ROM to make it more colorfull,more alive to our eyes. But it went wrong,and if Man doesnt commited mistakes,so there wouldnt be positive results. Test we need. Mistakes have to occur in order to get better things.
People in Ethiopia have a more confused life than me. Im not an egocentric person, but cool .
I always learned things the hard way .

While I changed my screen I broke the keyboard connector on the mainboard. The brown plastic closing mechanism broke to parts. Any clue where I could buy a new one and if it is possible to change it (solder?)?

CraZyLiLbOy said:
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he cooked the rom first ... and i'm guessing something didn't go right. OFCOURSE he just didn't straight flash a diamond rom .. he's a cook so i think he knows better than that.

The only thing I can say you:
Great Avatar......

There is always a Solution
raccna said:
While I changed my screen I broke the keyboard connector on the mainboard. The brown plastic closing mechanism broke to parts. Any clue where I could buy a new one and if it is possible to change it (solder?)?
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Im sorry for what append to you device. It doesnt make us feel good.
What did realy append ?
What part do you need ?
I have the solution for that. If you need a new Mainboard i can get it for you.
I dont make crazy prices. Probably a new device for the price of a Mainboard,thats what ive done,but im searching for a Mainboard supplier thought .
If you want to know more PM me.

Hi Thesire
thesire said:
he cooked the rom first ... and i'm guessing something didn't go right. OFCOURSE he just didn't straight flash a diamond rom .. he's a cook so i think he knows better than that.
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Nope,i didnt straight flashed a Diamond Rom.
I knew i had to cook it. But forgot that i had to Port XIP and probably SYS from a Kaiser ROM to the Diamond one, or the reverse.
Im still on the learning process. But as you must know,Time is the Master.
And learning and take actions till they come correct its a bit time consuming. And i dont have much time these days.
I learned the hard way. I believe thats one thing that will never appen again .
Im waiting for my new Kaiser to arrive. Couldnt find a Mainboard supplier yet.
But i can get Kaisers for less then the price they asked me in the repair shop.

Am I completely screwed?

So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?

If you got it off ebay, att doesnt want anything to do with it. You can try for HTC support, but i have no idea how HTC is with that kind of stuff.
Do a hard reset, and see if that helps any.

I wonder if it's just a faulty keyboard and it's causing shortcuts to open the notes software.
What other things are happening?
Could be a cable loose inside or the keyboard circuit board could have slipped out of place. This happened on mine.

HTC wont touch an HTC device under warranty without a receipt (from original purchase) Branded devices they wont touch without them coming from the network.
Paid repairs are different, they'll carry out the repairs for you, and invoice you for the repairs. They also charge for a quotation for repairs if you dont get it repaired (£20 in the UK I think, no idea outside of the UK)
If the phone keeps recording notes, it could be something as simple as a button being stuck. my solution with old devices was to mash the buttons as much as possible, and it generally unstuck them.
If your device is 45 days old (to you) then to be fair, its not likely to be an issue that the seller knew about, as its something thats occured since then. Issues can occur at any stage in a devices life, its just unfortunate that yours has chosen now to go wrong.
If you're not looking to pay to get the device fixed, it may be something as simple as opening the case up, and cleaning around the keyboard/extra buttons and re-assembling it, but if you're unsure on how to do this, I'd recommend not trying. When I opened my old 9100 to try and clean it up, something went sproing, and I lost a spring... I could never use the bottom row on the keyboard after that.

I've had good experiences with HTC.
SpugDarktyde said:
HTC wont touch an HTC device under warranty without a receipt (from original purchase) Branded devices they wont touch without them coming from the network.
Paid repairs are different, they'll carry out the repairs for you, and invoice you for the repairs. They also charge for a quotation for repairs if you dont get it repaired (£20 in the UK I think, no idea outside of the UK)
If the phone keeps recording notes, it could be something as simple as a button being stuck. my solution with old devices was to mash the buttons as much as possible, and it generally unstuck them.
If your device is 45 days old (to you) then to be fair, its not likely to be an issue that the seller knew about, as its something thats occured since then. Issues can occur at any stage in a devices life, its just unfortunate that yours has chosen now to go wrong.
If you're not looking to pay to get the device fixed, it may be something as simple as opening the case up, and cleaning around the keyboard/extra buttons and re-assembling it, but if you're unsure on how to do this, I'd recommend not trying. When I opened my old 9100 to try and clean it up, something went sproing, and I lost a spring... I could never use the bottom row on the keyboard after that.
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This isn't my experience.
I've had a couple of dealings with HTC UK and have been very happy:
1) Ebay-sourced Tornado failed screen - I phoned HTC and from the IMEI number they got the manufacturing date, worked out it was under a year old, and fixed it for free
2) ebay-sourced Artemis - I dropped it, bent the casing. I phoned HTC and they fixed it as a paid repair for 65UKP. This included a complete recase. When I noticed some of the buttons were a bit sticky afterwards, they did a second repair replacing the controls for free, despite it almost certainly being a problem caused by my initial dropping.
3) ebay-sourced Qtek 8500. Had a problem with the LCD failing when the clamshell was flexed. Again, phoned HTC UK and replaced under warranty.
They've been prompt, have native helpdesks, cheap and generally couldn't have been more helpful - definitely worth approaching them. This contrasts with, say, Nokia and is a major part of why I like HTC products.
Ric

Richie V6 said:
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
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The first thing u should do is figure out if it is hardware or software related. Just do a hardreset and see if that helps. If not, then its most likely hardware related.

Check in Settings - Buttons what button is assigned to the recorder (usually the one on the left side), remove that assignment.
The button must be stuck or the sensor below it faulty, so it senses that button always pressed.
Richie V6 said:
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
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landwomble said:
This isn't my experience.
I've had a couple of dealings with HTC UK and have been very happy:
1) Ebay-sourced Tornado failed screen - I phoned HTC and from the IMEI number they got the manufacturing date, worked out it was under a year old, and fixed it for free
2) ebay-sourced Artemis - I dropped it, bent the casing. I phoned HTC and they fixed it as a paid repair for 65UKP. This included a complete recase. When I noticed some of the buttons were a bit sticky afterwards, they did a second repair replacing the controls for free, despite it almost certainly being a problem caused by my initial dropping.
3) ebay-sourced Qtek 8500. Had a problem with the LCD failing when the clamshell was flexed. Again, phoned HTC UK and replaced under warranty.
They've been prompt, have native helpdesks, cheap and generally couldn't have been more helpful - definitely worth approaching them. This contrasts with, say, Nokia and is a major part of why I like HTC products.
Ric
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Dont get me wrong, I wasnt slating HTC for their support, I'm with you on that one. I've just seen jobs that have been bounced back from them (rightfully so) and was just giving the worst case scenario, that being that HTC dont actually have to fix it.

the agent or att will not help you, you got it from eBay and even if they help it will be for extra $$ so you may well just override that idea
first thing we must be sure if its hardware failure or software failure
if its software then you need to read lots but eventually you will have to get a new ROM and start from scratch eliminate all 3rd party ( so i advice using stocked ROM)
look at this it might help http://rapidshare.com/files/103168855/HTC_Kaiser_Service_Manual_jas_pik.pdf
this is the repair manual for kaiser

Square Trade
After this happened to me the first time I got some bunk electronics from ebay, I started using squaretrade.com. They will give you a warranty at about 50% of the cost of a Manufacturer/Dealer warranty and have a five day fix/replacement guarantee.

I would like to thank everyone for their reply I can see this is a dedicated community.
Starscreamer said:
I wonder if it's just a faulty keyboard and it's causing shortcuts to open the notes software.
What other things are happening?
Could be a cable loose inside or the keyboard circuit board could have slipped out of place. This happened on mine.
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Last night I reverted back to my factory rom but this did not fix the problem. Some odd things that I noticed that has me completely baffled is that only the directional keys (up, down, right, left) work on the keyboard but nothing else works. I tried doing a hard reset but that didn't wont since the 2 soft keys are not responding.
jahrami said:
the agent or att will not help you, you got it from eBay and even if they help it will be for extra $$ so you may well just override that idea
first thing we must be sure if its hardware failure or software failure
if its software then you need to read lots but eventually you will have to get a new ROM and start from scratch eliminate all 3rd party ( so i advice using stocked ROM)
look at this it might help http://rapidshare.com/files/103168855/HTC_Kaiser_Service_Manual_jas_pik.pdf
this is the repair manual for kaiser
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That manual seems very complete if I can't get HTC to fix it I will attempt to fix it myself. Does anyone know if I can purchase replacement part?

There's some hope for you. I bought my Tilt off of Ebay. AT&T warranted it from the day that it hit their network with my SIM card. So although it was originally purchased from AT&T (by the ebayer seller) on Oct 17th 2007, my warranty started December 6th 2007. No receipt required. They swapped it no problem. The TILT has a 365 day warranty via AT&T.
Just make sure you deal with a service center and not the individual stores. Go to attwireless.com and search for "TILT Warranty" .. look for the service center information.
Mine was swapped with no hassle in about 5minutes (I had a rom issue). One note if you go this route, check the replacement! My replacement has key-sticking issues (the right key on the keyboard gets stuck down, etc). The speaker (for phonecalls, not external) also is a little more muted than my old one (I sometimes have trouble hearing people). I may rewarranty it.
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Here: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB64687
The service centers are contractors (I could tell by their shirts, saying "Company Name: Authorized AT&T Tech"), so I really don't think they care, as long as they can warranty it they will because it is more money for them. Just my thought.

As the above poster said, AT&T WILL do warranty exchanges on tilts bought through ebay or otherwise. I bought one off of craigslist and had it exchanged when a key on the keyboard stopped working. No problem. It is warrantied for 1 year after it is first used on their system.
The people stating otherwise are flat out wrong.

Thanks for the advice guys I was able to take the phone to a AT&T service center and swap the phone for a new one.

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Thanks for the advice guys I was able to take the phone to a AT&T service center and swap the phone for a new one.
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No problem. Glad to hear.
It was a nice surprise for me last week, as I thought I was out $400 for a new one or stuck to using a temporary phone until the Touch Pro came.

KyleK29 said:
No problem. Glad to hear.
It was a nice surprise for me last week, as I thought I was out $400 for a new one or stuck to using a temporary phone until the Touch Pro came.
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The touch pro is very sexy

congratulations
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The touch pro is very sexy
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So someone probably has a free Diamond now!

Ok, so i managed to loose my phone over the weekend at V in Staffordshire. So there are 2 outcomes to this.
1) The phone got killed as it fell out of my pocket, and then probably got stamped on a few times by people not knowing its there.
2) Someone has found it but not turned it over to lost property. They arent gonna be able to do much with it as it has a flat battery and has now been IMEI blacklisted and the SIM locked.
Thank god for insurance that what I say! However, I wish i had configured RTConfig properly and then I would have atleast got some info from the device if anyone swaps out the sim.
What tends to happen to these phones even though they are IMEI blocked?

Some police forces will recover your phone when the IMEI is blacklisted by triangulating the position.
I have heard about this in the UK on some show and here in romania i know they recover stolen phones because one of my friends got his N95 back.

So how i dont think the police are going to raid a house just to get the phone back.
When you unlock these things so that you can put custom roms on them, does this sim unlock the phone?
I know there are methods available now to sim unlock, but i wasnt sure if the hardspl thing did it as well?
Some little blighter has got all my contacts and calender events, along with some cracking photos of V! That is if the phone wasnt destroyed in the mosh pit.

password on
hope you had that switched on
mine come on at 5 mins

Nope, i dont tend to have the password on otherwise i cant invoke a call from my bluetooth headset, unless that has changed.

or they might find a way to change the imei.

Well if they manage to do that, then kudos to the criminal activity. That or it gets flogged to some terrorist.

buciuman said:
Some police forces will recover your phone when the IMEI is blacklisted by triangulating the position.
I have heard about this in the UK on some show and here in romania i know they recover stolen phones because one of my friends got his N95 back.
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Get real my friend .... no police force will recover the phone...by triangulation.
Yes , triangulation can be done, but for sure no police man will ever hunt down the user of the stolen phone.
By now the pohne has alredy been sold to un unsuspecting user...

did you also wear your best clothes to V as well

phone insurrance? how is that ? i mean, do they give you another phone or the ammount of money youn spent on the phone ?
have to look around too for something like this cause a phone this expensive is not worth loosing over an accident like yours

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did you also wear your best clothes to V as well
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Haha, nope, luckily! Got right muddy though! I wouldnt be suprised if the phone got killed by all the mud that would have been stamped into it! lol
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phone insurrance? how is that ? i mean, do they give you another phone or the ammount of money youn spent on the phone ?
have to look around too for something like this cause a phone this expensive is not worth loosing over an accident like yours
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Yep, I get phone insurance with my bank account. I have to pay £30 excess though when I make a sucessful claim. The new Sim from T-Mob cost me £10 however that can be claimed back as well. They then send you the same phone back (probably a refurb) or a same spec/better phone if they can't get like for like. That one should be interesting as I will be sure to print the specs of for the Diamond and make sure its either the same or better.

iliescu902 said:
phone insurrance? how is that ? i mean, do they give you another phone or the ammount of money youn spent on the phone ?
have to look around too for something like this cause a phone this expensive is not worth loosing over an accident like yours
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Mine is covered by Orange Care anywhere in the world for £5 per month for loss, damage etc, I think now they charge an admin fee .
As for IMEI ~ these can be changed but is against the law, if not changed then the phone is only IMEI blocked in this country (AFAIK) unless agreements have been arranged with other conutries by now?
Shame about your loss of phone though

I know your pain, mine was stolen a few weeks ago. Bought a new one, but I didn't have insurance. I've bought Sprite Terminator now, gave my girlfriend the phone and told her to go shopping or something.
She was surprised when she found me waiting for her .
Great tracking software .

What the! Ok, the insurance company told me they cant get hold of a compact iv so they have offered me the unbranded version. I want the original one as tmob has nice rounded corners!
Gash!

Kaiser can't find sim card

Hello guys, I've got quite weird problem. Today morning, I tried to run android on my Tilt, but when I've done flashing, my phone couldn't find sim card (which was in it). I thought it was maybe ROM problem, so I've changed it to another and it was the same. Phone couldn't find sim card which was in it. Okey, I tried to change sim to one from another operator and was still the same... At last, I reflashed my kaiser to Win Mobile 6.5 (shifu 4.3 ROM, best for me) and it's all the same! It didn't crash or something like it, so I think it must be software problem.
What do you think guys, why it can't find sim?
Actually, I've got shifu 4.3 ROM, Radio 1.70.19.09 and HardSPL 3.29.
What shall I do to get it back to work?
Waiting for your advice.
//Edit: found a solution to this, searching the forum. I´ll try it and then say if it works.

ive got the same issue, let me now what u did to fix if u get it working

I tried to put a tape on my sim card to get it better connecting to the port, but it isn't still working... I read all topics about not working sim, but I haven't found real working answer. Can someone say what exactly should I do to make it working (without getting it to service)?

why without getting it to service?
some things are just hardware failures and no software can fix them. i have personally had this problem. read the FIRST page of the kaiser general forum and you will see at least 2-3 such threads. this is a common issue because of the moving parts in the kaiser. if the do-it-yourself tricks aren't working, then it is very very likely a fault in the main flex cable as detailed in the threads i am mentioning.

Yeah, I've seen that and it's really getting me down...
Why not? Just because I had a issue with not contacting usb port, I got my kaiser to service (not original, just something like "buy-sell phones service) and it costed me about 120zł (it's 30 euro, on that current). It wasn't done good. If I had a required stuff to solder it, I'd done that by myself. Next, my kaiser falled off my knee, when I was playing my guitar and writing an sms (I mean, I had guitar on my chest and I was writing sms in the same time) and slider works only in one place (not two - right and left, just only right). I tried to repair it, but it's just torned plastic and I can't do anything with it.
Now, sim card reader has f*cked up... I don't 've got enought money to pay for all things to do with my Tilt, so I think I'd lie down in my drawer...
Goodbye kaiser, hlip... ;(
Maybe, later, I'd buy G1 .

sorry to hear about the entire story. i used my tytn2 for a full 2 years. i had the main flex cable repaired last month and my repair guy also did a poor job. he put in a tilt's main flex cable, so my sim started working again. BUT! he didn't notice that the tilt does not have a front cam. so now my tytn2's front cam does not work.
i used the repaired tytn2 just fine for the past month. i just got an hd2 yesterday because i couldn't resist!
but it was worth having my kaiser repaired because now i can sell it. if i did not have it repaired, no one would want to buy a phone whose sim card doesn't work!

Yeah, I used my for about 1,5 year, but it's second hand phone - it was used by my friend for about year. How much did you pay for that repair? Just wanna know what prices are for that .
HD2... Man, you've got world's controlling center in your hands!
Congratulations .
I'm thinking of selling my kaiser like "sim not working, just for parts or to repair!", but I'll wait for the price in service.

i'm in a country where i can't use ebay/paypal, otherwise i would have ordered a brand new part for the kaiser. these parts are available as "do-it-yourself" kits for about $35.
where i am, i had to have it replaced by a local service shop. these shops rarely have replacement parts for "exotic" phones like the kaiser. so i had to settle for a cannibalized part from a used tilt for about $45 i still think it was worth it because without repairing it, i could probably sell it for about $50. after repairing it, i can probably sell it for about $150+ in the market here. so i will still make a profit of 150-45=$100+ compared to a profit of $50 without having it repaired.

ASCIIker said:
i'm in a country where i can't use ebay/paypal, otherwise i would have ordered a brand new part for the kaiser. these parts are available as "do-it-yourself" kits for about $35.
where i am, i had to have it replaced by a local service shop. these shops rarely have replacement parts for "exotic" phones like the kaiser. so i had to settle for a cannibalized part from a used tilt for about $45 i still think it was worth it because without repairing it, i could probably sell it for about $50. after repairing it, i can probably sell it for about $150+ in the market here. so i will still make a profit of 150-45=$100+ compared to a profit of $50 without having it repaired.
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Definitely you have a good deal with your kaiser....