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[Q]Extended Battery the size if OEM battery?

Like title says.. I've been trying to find a extended battery which has higher capacity yet the size of the original battery but no luck
Does anyone know if there is one and where to fine one
Thanks
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are you sure that's even possible ? unless the battery was made of some other kind of materials, I have tyrouble seeing how you could store more power in the same battery size.
If you don't want a bigger phone, Your best bet would probably be to buy a second standard battery but it's a hassle to swap the battery when it's empty

If the battery is the same size it could in theory have more juice but it would be negligible. Seriously though, I picked up a charging cradle with battery charging slot and 2 spare batteries for $20. I also have a car charger and 3 chargers in my house. Unless you get a battery that is about double the size, you won't see a big difference and even then many batteries don't live up to their specs. Chargers and spare batteries are cheap. We're not dealing with smartphones of a decade ago where everything was proprietary and would cost at least $30 a pop.
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I remember reading something about this... I think it might have even been on this forum but it was something along the lines of "Don't you think, if it were possible to fit more juice into the same size battery, that samsung wouldn't do that with their OEM batteries?"
Samsung, and I'm sure many other major device manufacturers don't just buy a battery off ebay and throw it in their phones. they spend time and money researching better battery technologies to get the best power/life they can.

It's my second day with an Andida 1850mAh battery, no big changes yet compared to my 8 month old 1500mAh OEM battery, i'll post back after a few complete drain and charge cycles.

Surnom said:
It's my second day with an Andida 1850mAh battery, no big changes yet compared to my 8 month old 1500mAh OEM battery, i'll post back after a few complete drain and charge cycles.
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Be careful buying those batteries. More often than not they just repackage 1500 batteries and Mark up the price :/
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After 3 complete charge cycle its a little bit better than OEM but no big improvement. I'll see in a few more days.

I finally get about 15% better battery life. For the 20$ it cost me, I'm happy.

Surnom said:
I finally get about 15% better battery life. For the 20$ it cost me, I'm happy.
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How long have you had the battery? I'm looking for a new one as well but not if I am going to get scammed. Thanks!

Not Nexus related, but I have a vibrant that I got the Galaxy S 2 Epic 4G Touch battery for recently. Battery life went from about 6 hours to dead (month old 1500 mAh replacement battery bought at a phone hut) to 34 hours to dead (new samsung 1800mAh battery.) Nothing else changed.
My point is this:
1. If the above statements about samsung packing in as much as possible are true, why didn't the vibrant have a 1800mAh battery from the start? (hint, it is always about money.)
2. Take a crap 1500 mAh battery, slap a 1800 mAh sticker on it. People that buy these batteries will see an improvement because most generally they are replacing a worn out battery with a new one. Of course you will see an improvement, your worn out stock battery has only (arbitrary number) 600 mAh worth of usefulness left. The replacement is new and is not worn yet. (All arbitrary numbers follow) So, you will still see an improvement if you take a rated 1500mAh battery, that is labeled 1800mAh, but is in actuality only 1000mAh.
So asking if there is another, bigger, better battery for the Nexus made by Samsung, is a very valid question. So:
mrplowking said:
are you sure that's even possible ? unless the battery was made of some other kind of materials, I have tyrouble seeing how you could store more power in the same battery size.
If you don't want a bigger phone, Your best bet would probably be to buy a second standard battery but it's a hassle to swap the battery when it's empty
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Yes it is possible. Search the Vibrant, and Fascinate/Mezmerize forum for examples.

Its about 6-7 days old, bought it on EBAY from this place:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ladyblue1974/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

t1n0m3n said:
My point is this:
1. If the above statements about samsung packing in as much as possible are true, why didn't the vibrant have a 1800mAh battery from the start?
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Because it is a device from 2 years ago (2010) and the S2 is from q3 2011. Maybe two years allowed them to cram more juice into the battery.
Maybe it wasn't viable then, to stick such a large battery, considering the power consumption of the vibrant compared to the S2. Maybe if they did the price would have gone up.
I highly doubt that Samsung would just stick different stickers on the same capacity batteries. maybe you had a defective or a non-original one. There are people that measure this kind of stuff. How much damage would Samsung's image suffer if someone found out that they sell a 1000 mAh battery with different labels and price tags?

I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.

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Maybe it wasn't viable then, to stick such a large battery, considering the power consumption of the vibrant compared to the S2. Maybe if they did the price would have gone up.
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Yes, as you so eloquently rephrased, "it's always about money." I noticed you left that part out of your quote of me.
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I highly doubt that Samsung would just stick different stickers on the same capacity batteries. maybe you had a defective or a non-original one. There are people that measure this kind of stuff. How much damage would Samsung's image suffer if someone found out that they sell a 1000 mAh battery with different labels and price tags?
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"Take a crap 1500 mAh battery" In this case "crap"="non oem"
I figured that would be obvious with my prior "phone hut" comment. I guess not.
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I am a big fan of the OEM batteries. I have not tested a non-oem battery that will perform anywhere close to the stated specifications so far.
If you guys find some good battery reviews, tests, etc. please post up.
Keep in mind that comparing a brand new "Craptastic Brand™" battery to your old worn out OEM battery is kind of pointless for getting a feel of the comparative quality/capacity of a battery.

klorin said:
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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Dude that looks good for $20! Post more details! I might be getting that
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klorin said:
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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is that battery same size like the original battery?
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yes tjackbjorn, same size

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yes tjackbjorn, same size
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okey, does it work properly? Think I maybe buy one, it wasn't too expensive!
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yes, it works properly. I had used my original battery for 12 months when I switched over to this one. The improvement was very noticeable.
I just charged my phone to 99%, I will report back in 24 hours with battery information and battery history since unplugged.

Sounds great!

New, better battery

Hi, Is there any better battery than stock on Ebay?

Yes, I use One from AkkuKing and One form PolarCell and both are better then the stock battery..
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There are 2 kinds of battery replacements, the ones that have the same size as the original one, and the ones that are bigger and come with a replacement back cover for your phone in order to fit in there.
The first kind is usually ineffective. The Mah listed by most of those batteries is greatly exaggerated and poor quality control makes getting one of them a lottery. You might get one that lasts a little longer, but it might start to deteriorate after a month of usage, or it might be worse than the stock battery from the start. The only exception to this rule is the Mugen power 1700 Mah battery, but the cost of that one is almost unreasonable.
On the other hand while the fatter batteries do work, they will transform your phone to an unpocketable miniature whale. You will also be unable to find any cases big enough for the phone.
I am in the same situations as you and i decided to go for the Mugen, it is expensive but it's reliable and performs better than the stock battery.

which mugen?? extended or stock?
and what about anker...are they any good??
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Don't dare to buy from Ebay bro....it's hell they cheat lot...I bought many batteries bit the best result I got from original stock battery from lg service center call them and ask if available and when they can make it available...that's the best piece you'll never regret never ever buy from Ebay

galaxyfitankit said:
Don't dare to buy from Ebay bro....it's hell they cheat lot...I bought many batteries bit the best result I got from original stock battery from lg service center call them and ask if available and when they can make it available...that's the best piece you'll never regret never ever buy from Ebay
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is there a big difference from buying a new battery, i cant remember how long the phone lasted when i just bought it, ya they sell it at the lg service centre

Actually my battery used to suck on standby ...like when I sleep after 7 hours around 35- 50% gone...but with this original it's only like 3 %

galaxyfitankit said:
Actually my battery used to suck on standby ...like when I sleep after 7 hours around 35- 50% gone...but with this original it's only like 3 %
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seems like you had a bad battery....however which all batteries u tried???

rachit_rox said:
which mugen?? extended or stock?
and what about anker...are they any good??
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Anker batteries are supposed to be good quality but i can't find the normal sized model anywhere and even if i did, it has the same MAh as the OEM battery, so i don't see a reason not to get the LG battery instead. The fat 2800 MAh model is good but i don't want to double the size of my phone. For that same reason i am not interested in the Mugen Power 4500 MAh battery, i will go for the 1700 MAh version instead.

Actually I got the battery from grey market here in Bangalore India it looks exactly same as original exactly same means from exactly you just can't differentiate ...but after a month it became futile hold same charge if you use our not will discharge in 4 hours

Jeez, huge difference between 1700 and 4500.. Almost 3x lol

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Jeez, huge difference between 1700 and 4500.. Almost 3x lol
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Yes, the same multiplier is applied to the size of the phone

Such a waste of space the whole backlid should be a battery not only the dimention behind oryginal battery place...
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How long your battery drains in standby, like when you sleep on night if it's 100% after 7 hours how much you get when you get up?

galaxyfitankit said:
How long your battery drains in standby, like when you sleep on night if it's 100% after 7 hours how much you get when you get up?
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After I sleep I get like 95-97%.

1800 mAh Battery for i9070

While usinge my Galaxy S i9000 for two years now i noticed sometimes the battery lasts (ordinary daily usage presumed) only arround 12 hours, so i tried to find a battery with a higher capacity.
The battery shipped by Samsung only had 1500mAh and after a while you could buy 1800mAh batteries with the same dimensions (i got some from Polarcell made in Germany)
1800mAh means you got a 20% higher capacity IMHO this means 20% longer time to use until charging
relating to the presumed 12hours of lifetime this means 2.4hours this is ok if you charge the phone over night and sleep 8 hours
Coming to the 9070 now!!!
i tried to find some bigger batteries for the advanced. i found some 1650mAh batteries, but i first tried to push my old battery in my new phone .
As you can see on the attached file 1 its only 1mm difference between the two batteries and so the battery didnt fit into the phone. But ive got more than just 1 battery.
So i removed the piece of plastic at the bottom of the battery and the foil around it and voila:
With a little pressure i pushed the battery into the phone
this is just a tip for anyone who needs 20% more capacity and doesnt find such a big battery

Thats dangerous mate..

LOL, I tried it with my i9003 battery and had the same problem like you, I tried to force it but I think it may damage the plastic

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Thats dangerous mate..
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no isnt ... below the plastic part is a complete, i think its aluminium body that contains the battery ... the first openig without knowing about what its contains was dangerous...
but pushing the battery into the phone isnt
edit: I have to say below my plastic hull is a full aluminum body ... if you have more than one battery you can try it ... i think every battery uses this ... mom i try an original samsumg
edit2: yeah both batteries contain a smaller aluminium battery i removed the body of my original i9000 and i9070 batteries ...

Polarcell has a 1700mAh battery for i9070 (i use it for a week now)
and Mugen Power has a 1800 mAh battery (but it almost costs 3x the polarcell). And even a 3600mAh with new battery door.
So no need for experiments.
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sbtm1337 said:
Polarcell has a 1700mAh battery for i9070 (i use it for a week now)
and Mugen Power has a 1800 mAh battery (but it almost costs 3x the polarcell). And even a 3600mAh with new battery door.
So no need for experiments.
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its not a experiment i think every battery is surrounded with such an metalic body ... this is only a typ for guys like me own a sgs i9000 with a bigger battery and gonna switch to the advanced

m4kl4 said:
i tried to find some bigger batteries for the advanced. i found some 1650mAh batteries, but i first tried to push my old battery in my new phone .
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Just to be clear, do you mean the battery from the S2? Because that one has 1650mAh and I can buy it original in my country (Argentina), do you run your SGSA without problems?

gonxsster said:
Just to be clear, do you mean the battery from the S2? Because that one has 1650mAh and I can buy it original in my country (Argentina), do you run your SGSA without problems?
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i dont mean a battery from the s2 i used one from the s1 which had 1650 ... yeah without any problem

Its a chaines fake products

Has anyone tried these higher capacity batteries for i9070? I have seen some 2450mAh for 5e, with good buyer's feedback, and i'm seriously thinking to buy one..

Closed Force said:
Has anyone tried these higher capacity batteries for i9070? I have seen some 2450mAh for 5e, with good buyer's feedback, and i'm seriously thinking to buy one..
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Hello mate. I use Mugen Power 3500mAh battery for my I9070. I am very satisfied with it. I mostly use my phone for web browsing , ROM installing and occasional gaming. With the sammy's battery(1500mAh) it barely lasts 18 hours on heavy use.
But with this new battery it lasts well over a day(atleast 30-32 hours) on heavy use. I use cocore kernel and set the charging voltage to 600mA, default. Anything above this will overheat your phone. Also I lowered the usb charging to 400mA.
Overall I am satisfied with this battery.

Thank you for your answer. I believe that your battery is of higher capacity since it's really bigger, but problem is the battery I'm talking about is of SAME volume as original 1500mAh. I'm wondering how have they achieved that (if they did at all), maybe they removed some security parts in order to put more li-ion compound

Closed Force said:
Thank you for your answer. I believe that your battery is of higher capacity since it's really bigger, but problem is the battery I'm talking about is of SAME volume as original 1500mAh. I'm wondering how have they achieved that (if they did at all), maybe they removed some security parts in order to put more li-ion compound
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I think below part of the sammy's 1500mAh battery is made of hard plastic and can be cut and shrinked without affecting the usability.
So the 1800/2450 mAh extended batteries use that space and obtain better capacity without compromising on safety. Anyway good luck.

sbtm1337 said:
Polarcell has a 1700mAh battery for i9070 (i use it for a week now)
and Mugen Power has a 1800 mAh battery (but it almost costs 3x the polarcell). And even a 3600mAh with new battery door.
So no need for experiments.
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I've been using the Polarcell battery for about 2-3 months and batterylife is very good, 3g, wifi, pdf, call, pics, whatzapp, fb usage all day long Yeah, it depends what rom and kernel, but in general it is very good (used on HarshJelly and CarbonKitKat)

4500mAh Battery for Samsung Galaxy S I9000

are these battery any good?
do they actually give such huge capacity of power? I think even if they just give 3000 mAH its still worth it..what you say?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4500mAh-H...Galaxy-S-I9000-Black-Back-Cover-/370768703601

It seems doggy. Most high capacity batteries love to play the number game.
Some standard sized 2500mah batteries are actually poor quality 1500mah batteries that doesn't last as long as the stock Samsung battery.
Some thick ones are actually 2 1500mah batteries glued together making a total of 3000mah but often marketed misleadingly as 3500mah.
It is best to just get a oem Samsung power pack for the i9000.

^^^^^^ OEM power pack ?

Rajaasim1980 said:
^^^^^^ OEM power pack ?
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Looks like this, it's just an external battery pack made by Samsung.
http://www.priceme.co.nz/Samsung-Original-Galaxy-S-S-i9000-Power-Pack/p-887224296.aspx

Am using one. Gives me about 2 days worth of usage. Average usage includes Whatsapp and browsing. Not too many calls.
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Rajaasim1980 said:
are these battery any good?
do they actually give such huge capacity of power? I think even if they just give 3000 mAH its still worth it..what you say?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4500mAh-H...Galaxy-S-I9000-Black-Back-Cover-/370768703601
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I want to buy a battery.

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I want to buy a battery.
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Buy it and share your experience with us

Kinps 4000mah battery review

I bought tthis battery off eBay for $14.
I must say I am impressed.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=121019770043
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skugpezz said:
I bought tthis battery off eBay for $14.
I must say I am impressed.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=121019770043
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You do realize its capacity is anywhere from 2500 mAh to 3100 mAh, not really 4000 mAh? It's physically impossible to fit bigger higher capacity cells into single OEM battery size. Typically these ebay batteries, like Golden 4200 mAh, are closer to 2500 mAh (I have tested a few), but from your screenshots and the fact it costs over $10 - I think its safe to assume it will be closer to OEM 3100 mAh. Just gotta watch out for any bulging which happens with these over time especially when you charge them at full 2A speed, and you probably going to notice performance to go down in about 3-4 months.
Sorry bro, didn't mean to rain on your parade. It's just a fact with these ebay batteries.

skugpezz said:
I bought tthis battery off eBay for $14.
I must say I am impressed.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=121019770043
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Well it doesn' t seem much, if any, better than stock battery.

It is surely better than my stock battery. So it can't be less than 3100mah. Has to be higher.
It is not physically impossible. Not sure where you got that info from.
You didn't rain on my parade. I have results to prove it. My stock battery is now used as back. No use for it day to day now.
Only idiots buy golden battery lol.
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skugpezz said:
It is surely better than my stock battery. So it can't be less than 3100mah. Has to be higher.
It is not physically impossible. Not sure where you got that info from.
You didn't rain on my parade. I have results to prove it. My stock battery is now used as back. No use for it day to day now.
Only idiots buy golden battery lol.
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Ooh, you just offended a bunch of people on this forum who got Golden batteries hoping they will get 4200 mAh for $6
Unless you have some latest ground breaking info about new development in battery cell density, Samsung used the highest density battery in their OEM footprint. It's a fact. The only way to maximize it was by doubling the size, thus all the reputable companies had double thickness/capacity with 6200 mAh batteries and Zerolemon had it at triple with 9300 mAh. The only company that was able to squeezed a bit more was Mugen who does their own development and was able to squeeze in 6400 mAh in double capacity.
To verify capacity of your battery, looking at performance with screen on time, etc is not accurate. Especially since you are comparing it to an original battery with aged performance. You need to get an external hardware battery tester where you charge the battery to a full capacity and let it discharge down to 2.4V cutoff voltage while monitoring the actual current drain over time to get the exact capacity in mAh.
Btw, just for sh!ts'n'giggles, take the label off your battery to see what is stamped in there as actual capacity

I dont need to get anything. ..
My real world usage proves this last longer than my stock battery. I bought this battery to use as a backup but now my stock battery is the backup.
Are you saying mu screenshots are fake?
Also if you're point was valid, aa batteries come in one size right?
Why are there 800mah, 1200mah and 1600mah aa batteries?
I am happy and surprised with my purchase. Doesn't matter what you might think. My screen shots prove it.
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skugpezz said:
I dont need to get anything. ..
My real world usage proves this last longer than my stock battery. I bought this battery to use as a backup but now my stock battery is the backup.
Are you saying mu screenshots are fake?
Also if you're point was valid, aa batteries come in one size right?
Why are there 800mah, 1200mah and 1600mah aa batteries?
I am happy and surprised with my purchase. Doesn't matter what you might think. My screen shots prove it.
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Chill bro, I'm not doubting your screenshots or your experience. As I said, it sounds like you probably got 3100 mAh battery. That's all. As someone who reviews a lot of accessories and gadgets on XDA (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192333) and helps other members on this forum, I just want to be sure other people are not mislead by thinking they can get 4000 mAh battery because Note 2 battery with such capacity doesn't exist. Period. Neither does anything over 3200 mAh since I remember testing my Anker 3100 mAh to be slightly higher then stock capacity. The screenshots are real, I'm not doubting it, but that is call a "relative test" to another reference of someone else using stock capacity battery under different conditions with different setting and running different apps. We had people reporting poor performance with ZL 9300 mAh while the fact is they were comparing it to stock battery performance from 3-4 months ago when they had different setup with different apps, etc.
Just calm down, enjoy your battery, and spend a little bit of time reading this website with a lot of Note 2 battery reviews and explanation how they really being tested: http://www.batteryreview.info/

Ok just making sure you aren't hating lol.
I didnt say I believe it to be 4000mah. I just believe it is higher than 3100mah because it lasts longer.
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skugpezz said:
Ok just making sure you aren't hating lol.
I didnt say I believe it to be 4000mah. I just believe it is higher than 3100mah because it lasts longer.
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We only got love on this forum

It lasts longer cause its a new 3100 that hasn't degraded like the one you are currently used to.
gNOTE2 rolling in the north

My stock battery has never lasted like this under my usage.
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LordRalh3 said:
It lasts longer cause its a new 3100 that hasn't degraded like the one you are currently used to.
gNOTE2 rolling in the north
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x3000
It's probly a case of new 3100MAH compared to your used original 3100MAH
Only new battery tech could squeeze juice more into the same physical battery.
New battery tech wouldn't be sold for $14. :good:
Anyway at $14 that's not bad. Let us know how it performs over time. Cheaper than buying an original Samsung 3100mah

Just got this
Just got this battery and managed to last over 7hrs of onscreen time doing mostly messaging, web browsing, watching videos off the microsd card and youtube.
Auto-brightness was set to about 30% (was more than sufficient for an overcast day and 8 hours in the office).
Had location services turned on, gmail and Exchange syncing. Also had music playing (Poweramp) for most of the work day.
Hope this helps any others looking to give this a try.
No idea if I will get this sort of screen time on the stock battery as I've only had a half day use of it (bought the phone used off ebay and got the extended battery at the same time).

I get these same stats on my stock battery. Running ADHD 18 with latest Perseus kernel
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Im not impressed
As i can see your screen on time is just 4+ hours, i can say im getting somewhat 6-7 hours screen on time with my 7 months old stock sammy battery

As far as I'm aware the Mugen battery is the best available at 3200mah. The Anker one being a better value for money choic3 at slightly higher than stock.
I have no way of actually testing this though, but there's no way the OP's battery is anywhere near 4000mah.
On a similar note, does anyone know of any tools to accurately measure these battery capacities?

–edit sorry wrong link that was for testing cords not batteries
gNOTE2 rolling in the north

I see the reviews here are pretty old now.... so can anyone of you update the status of your battery performance now?

im sorry but i think zerolemon is better with 9300 if u dont mind the bulk