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I have had my Galaxy S for a bit over a week now and am pretty disappointed with the battery performance. Most days I take my battery off the charger at 7am and it reaches 15% low battery warning by 1-2pm. I do spend a fair amount of time reading XDA and listening to music. I'm currently running Stock JM1 firmware with no lagfixes.
Here's a list of my apps that I have installed:
http://www.appbrain.com/user/Lokhor/apps-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s
I am running JuiceDefender which I thought would make a big difference and does not. I have also set Tasker to change the Brightness level to 20 (below the safety threshold) when the battery reaches 50% or below, otherwise the brightness is at the minimum (30%).
I have heard that you need to condition the battery so I have been trying to do this but it doesn't seem to have had much effect. Today I used my phone only casually and it's currently at 22% after 12.5 hours. The battery use details show the following:
Display at 56% being on for 2h22m and 13s.
Cell Standby 18% Time on 9h21m, time without signal 13%
Phone Idle 7% Time on 7h33m
Android System 5% CPU usage 23m39s CPU foreground 24s
Android OS 3% CPU Usage 13m 27s
Is this normal? Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
Please help
I don't know what others are telling you about conditioning a LiIon battery but you don't have to. LiIon batteries don't suffer from what NiCad do. Some do suggest wearing the battery down to nil and then charging it up again. However, this is pretty bad for the battery and should not be done more than once every 30 cycles. With every LiIon battery I've ever owned I've either trickle charged it or charged it when it wasn't too low and they've all lasted over 3 years. I've never conditioned one.
Anyway, my advice to you is to see how long your battery lasts in standby. Mine could probably last 3 days or more if I don't bother it too much (with sync, wifi and all that good stuff). I find the worst contender for battery drain is the display. The only problem I see with your stats there is that I've played Asphalt5 for around an hour and a half which is quite heavy on juice and it only drains roughly 10%-15%. Then again you're browsing the web so maybe probably worse.
Oh, and when charging your phone, don't use the USB hooked up to a computer as it doesn't stop charging when it's full. Use the wall charger to charge.
no need to worry more
just get this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733705
lokhor said:
I have had my Galaxy S for a bit over a week now and am pretty disappointed with the battery performance. Most days I take my battery off the charger at 7am and it reaches 15% low battery warning by 1-2pm. I do spend a fair amount of time reading XDA and listening to music. I'm currently running Stock JM1 firmware with no lagfixes.
Here's a list of my apps that I have installed:
http://www.appbrain.com/user/Lokhor/apps-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s
I am running JuiceDefender which I thought would make a big difference and does not. I have also set Tasker to change the Brightness level to 20 (below the safety threshold) when the battery reaches 50% or below, otherwise the brightness is at the minimum (30%).
I have heard that you need to condition the battery so I have been trying to do this but it doesn't seem to have had much effect. Today I used my phone only casually and it's currently at 22% after 12.5 hours. The battery use details show the following:
Display at 56% being on for 2h22m and 13s.
Cell Standby 18% Time on 9h21m, time without signal 13%
Phone Idle 7% Time on 7h33m
Android System 5% CPU usage 23m39s CPU foreground 24s
Android OS 3% CPU Usage 13m 27s
Is this normal? Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
Please help
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I found that charging it whenever it was convenient instead of when it was low would result in a charge that lasted ~24 hours.
I've noticed significant increase in battery life since I started waiting for the 15% charge warning, plugging it in till it was full and then unplugging it. I get 2-3 days of use this way.
I also set my email to only sync between 6 AM and 11 PM. I believe this helps a lot as well.
since we are about this topic, check this out
How to spot fake battery vs. OEM battery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7953322
so if I'm listening to music during the day at work should I have my phone plugged into the wall charger or just let the battery run down?
Last night I took the charger off at midnight when it was full and when I woke up it had only dropped 5%. After reading my emails quickly it was at 93%.
it works fine either way
read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769208
I find leaving the brightness on automatic uses up loads of battery. Setting it to lowest seems to make the phone last 24hrs+
I also found that having beautiful widgets clock/weather installed used up a lot of battery for some reason.
I don't use weather because it has to sync every so often to update it which to me is a waste...I'll just look outside. I also leave brightness on the lowest setting wherever I am as the screen is already very bright (why waste battery?).
My experiences with my SGS have taught me to be conservative with its battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, you eat power like crazy. The best bet is to just top her off whenever the need arises. Personally, I have found that I'm fine just topping her off in the car when I'm driving, so that I start my work day at high 90's, and especially once I've got my morning browsing out of the way, I don't eat a big chunk of battery at any other time.
But yes, if you find you are running low, you can happily just take a half hour to charge from a USB port to give you an extra boost. Alternatively, spare batteries and so forth do the same thing, although it can be annoying if you don't have a charger that will do the phone and a spare battery at once.
im experimenting with apndroid now to turn of 3g then i dont specifacly need it. It comes with an on/off widget. Looks promising so far. 40% at 2300 hour and then i have used wifi a bit, played angry birds and talked for about 2 hours in total.
We in the field in the army have no place to recharge the battery, so i have a second spare. After the first battery out, second battery i should calibrate or simply change it? Milestone generally maded to hot replace the battery? Second question: The battery is terribly wasted when data using. when browsing in the internet in dolphin 6.1. Even if 2g on and i in im+ messenger. A couple of sites get away even 1%-2%. An hour in nonstop browsing can drain 60%. YouTube has to look at all when the phone charging for viewing video over a length of 5 minutes, eats about 6% of charge. And i bought a new battery yesterday. And with the same old time of discharge. New battery calibrated. And tried to change the firmware on froyomod same. Right now sitting on the cyan 7 and the same flow rate. Last DSIfix 2..34.
PS. When data off - phone not using too much 2-3% when talking half hour. In the night can drain 3%.
You better calibrate the new battery after the new one charged to 100%
It calibrated already. Same ****.
I got same problem with my MS. Maybe it's high time to change to a new phone
Dieabolo,
What settings do you use for your display, your current frequencies with vsel, are you using this phone in areas with great reception, do you have programs that ate always updating running (Facebook, twitter, weather apps, Widgets, news /sports apps) ?
Also I do like dolphin HD but try the opera mobile browser it'll help by compressing data so therefore less data transferred which ends up with less power being consumed.
~PsyCl0ne
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
dieabolo said:
We in the field in the army have no place to recharge the battery, so i have a second spare. After the first battery out, second battery i should calibrate or simply change it? Milestone generally maded to hot replace the battery? Second question: The battery is terribly wasted when data using. when browsing in the internet in dolphin 6.1. Even if 2g on and i in im+ messenger. A couple of sites get away even 1%-2%. An hour in nonstop browsing can drain 60%. YouTube has to look at all when the phone charging for viewing video over a length of 5 minutes, eats about 6% of charge. And i bought a new battery yesterday. And with the same old time of discharge. New battery calibrated. And tried to change the firmware on froyomod same. Right now sitting on the cyan 7 and the same flow rate. Last DSIfix 2..34.
PS. When data off - phone not using too much 2-3% when talking half hour. In the night can drain 3%.
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i know for a fact, because ive tested it, that i can pull 11+ hours out of my droid. what you need to do is port MIUI to it, then get a lowvoltage overclocking kernal on it. i have a kernal that is 18 slot, and it can run stable at 220 mhz/1.26 ghz on userspace. run it at 220 mhz/900 mhz. if you clock it lower, then the battery life will decrease because it has to deal with a larger load, therefore, giving you battery heat damage, which means no more battery for you! i found that if i run the hight at 900 mhz, then it will have a chance to deal with all of the load. if you put it at 1.0 ghz, then it will ahve the same effect, but if your going to game with the droid, then i would put it at 1.06 ghz. my phone specs: OG droid, OC to 220 mhz/1.0 ghz, running MIUI 108050 on android 2.3.4. have fun!
Two things I would recommend would be to perhaps try a low voltage kernel, and to make sure you don't have any battery-intensive apps running in the background (Ebay, Lookout, etc.). You can check this by going to Settings > Applications > Running Services and seeing which programs are running.
Also if you set profiles withing SetCPU or another similar app, you can have the kernel drop to a lower speed when your screen is off or when the battery drops below a certain percentage. Doing these things should help you save some juice.
EDIT: I just read on another thread that the milestone has a locked bootloader, meaning you can't change the kernel. If this is indeed true, that sucks.
I calibrate my battery with this method:
1. Plug the charger in the phone, and charge at 100%
2. Delete /data/system/batterystats.bin using Terminal emulator or whatever tool
3. Restart the phone, and when it start to boot, and before the soft keys shine take off the battery.
4. The phone will run without battery, after a few minutes (2-5) put the battery in.
5. Left the phone charge for another 30 minutes...
But with CM7 for Mileston RC13 my radio don't work, and I have to restart it again to have phonee signal.
Xperia V running 4.1.2
I don't know why, on CM10 it was nothing like this: 2 hours of playing mp3s results in a mediaserver drain equal to 2 hours of screen time. 2 hours screen on, 2 hours mp3, both are at 40% and my battery is 2/3rds gone. I've done a lot of searching but nobody has found any solution. This is not media scanning, it's simply stupidly high power consumption when playing mp3s.
I've got a UK release HTC One (M7) that was bought unlocked SIM free in July last year. It has never been rooted, but has had all official updates applied so far (Kitkat 4.4.2 the latest, still waiting on Sense 6.0).
The phone battery lasts a few days on standby, but actually use the phone for anything (calls, texts, surf the net, simple game or listen to music) the battery drains at roughly 1% every 2 mins (It's a good job I don't play graphic games, watch video or stream). I factory reset the phone and deleted everything on it, charged it to 100% and in the 2 hours it took me to set it up again and re-download apps and install them the battery dropped to 38%, so based on that I'd be lucky to get 4 hours use out of the phone on a full charge.
I have battery saver on with roaming, syncing, GPS, Bluetooth, mobile data all disabled as standard, with only wireless enabled (but that goes off when the phone sleeps - screen is set to low brightness and 1 minute), I've also gone through every app and disabled those I can't delete and that give me the option like Blinkfeed, FB, Twitter, Maps, Google Music, Play, Drive etc, but the battery still drains quickly - any ideas please? would rooting and using a custom ROM help?
Cheers
Try a battery monitoring app like GSAM or BBS to check for apps and wakelocks, which are causing the drain.
ShaunIOW said:
I've got a UK release HTC One (M7) that was bought unlocked SIM free in July last year. It has never been rooted, but has had all official updates applied so far (Kitkat 4.4.2 the latest, still waiting on Sense 6.0).
The phone battery lasts a few days on standby, but actually use the phone for anything (calls, texts, surf the net, simple game or listen to music) the battery drains at roughly 1% every 2 mins (It's a good job I don't play graphic games, watch video or stream). I factory reset the phone and deleted everything on it, charged it to 100% and in the 2 hours it took me to set it up again and re-download apps and install them the battery dropped to 38%, so based on that I'd be lucky to get 4 hours use out of the phone on a full charge.
I have battery saver on with roaming, syncing, GPS, Bluetooth, mobile data all disabled as standard, with only wireless enabled (but that goes off when the phone sleeps - screen is set to low brightness and 1 minute), I've also gone through every app and disabled those I can't delete and that give me the option like Blinkfeed, FB, Twitter, Maps, Google Music, Play, Drive etc, but the battery still drains quickly - any ideas please? would rooting and using a custom ROM help?
Cheers
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So you got 2 Hours of screen on time.. I'd say that's pretty decent, considering all the app installs you must've done. Typical battery life on this phone would get you anywhere between two hours to six hours of screen on time. In the remaining 38%, you'd probably get an hour and 15 or 30 minutes. What you were doing after you reset the phone wan't normal usage.. If you want to improve the battery life, read the posts on the battery stats thread and ask for recommendations there. Also, try keeping your phone cool, it'll help the battery a lot. Basically, what i've noticed is as soon as the phone gets hot, your battery gets over much quicker.
Better battery stats
n1234d said:
So you got 2 Hours of screen on time.. I'd say that's pretty decent, considering all the app installs you must've done. Typical battery life on this phone would get you anywhere between two hours to six hours of screen on time. In the remaining 38%, you'd probably get an hour and 15 or 30 minutes. What you were doing after you reset the phone wan't normal usage.. If you want to improve the battery life, read the posts on the battery stats thread and ask for recommendations there. Also, try keeping your phone cool, it'll help the battery a lot. Basically, what i've noticed is as soon as the phone gets hot, your battery gets over much quicker.
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Try batter battery stats..
Hi! I have a major problem with my phone:
Please help me to get at least 3-4 hours of screen per one charging,
From the very beginning of the phone (with android 4.2) the maximum screen time was 2,5 - to a maaaximum of 3 hours per charging. The average usage was: maybe 30 minutes of call time, 20 sms, 1/2 hrs of web browsing/facebook, maybe 2 hours of music with bluetooth headset, 20 min of gaming - not heay games.
After 4.3 update the battery life dropped.
But with 4.4 android I barely get 1 -1,5 hrs of screen time (considering the average use of the phone written before) - i deactivated location.
- i checked the battery usage but google services didn't drain a lot of battery power like some users complained. I mean I could have survived with the battery consumption in android 4.2 (despite some users had 7 hrs of screen time), but i am curios how to get more battery life (now i miss those 2,5 hrs of screen time :/). If it helps i can upload some usage stats, but there is nothing unusual in them, only the things i use.
As a conclusion i wonder how can i make the battery last longer or how can i optimize my phone to get a decent battery life? Thank you all in advance.
pilifida said:
Hi! I have a major problem with my phone:
Please help me to get at least 3-4 hours of screen per one charging,
From the very beginning of the phone (with android 4.2) the maximum screen time was 2,5 - to a maaaximum of 3 hours per charging. The average usage was: maybe 30 minutes of call time, 20 sms, 1/2 hrs of web browsing/facebook, maybe 2 hours of music with bluetooth headset, 20 min of gaming - not heay games.
After 4.3 update the battery life dropped.
But with 4.4 android I barely get 1 -1,5 hrs of screen time (considering the average use of the phone written before) - i deactivated location.
- i checked the battery usage but google services didn't drain a lot of battery power like some users complained. I mean I could have survived with the battery consumption in android 4.2 (despite some users had 7 hrs of screen time), but i am curios how to get more battery life (now i miss those 2,5 hrs of screen time :/). If it helps i can upload some usage stats, but there is nothing unusual in them, only the things i use.
As a conclusion i wonder how can i make the battery last longer or how can i optimize my phone to get a decent battery life? Thank you all in advance.
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Listening to music via a bluetooth headset and playing games consumes a lot of battery. Try to enable stamina mode and stop playing games. Besides that use WiFi instead of mobile data.
Try all this and you will see that the battery lasts longer
i have stamina mode enabled.If its weekend i don't listen to music (i only listen at work) and the battery still doesn't lasts any longer. Do you find an average of 1 hr and 15 minutes of screen time to be a good battery usage time?
pilifida said:
i have stamina mode enabled.If its weekend i don't listen to music (i only listen at work) and the battery still doesn't lasts any longer. Do you find an average of 1 hr and 15 minutes of screen time to be a good battery usage time?
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No it is not.
To check your battery open service menu and go to service tests - battery.
How many apps do you have installed? Do you have root access?
i have a total of 6 menu pages of apps, but i barely use 3-4 apps. I looked into running apps and only 7-8 extra apps are running constantly besides the normal processess, but in usage stats they don;t appear as battery consumers (ex. kaspersky). I never had root access into this phone. I'm waiting until there will be no more official updates for this model
- at sevice tests, battery it says: good, no need to replace it
pilifida said:
i have a total of 6 menu pages of apps, but i barely use 3-4 apps. I looked into running apps and only 7-8 extra apps are running constantly besides the normal processess, but in usage stats they don;t appear as battery consumers (ex. kaspersky). I never had root access into this phone. I'm waiting until there will be no more official updates for this model
- at sevice tests, battery it says: good, no need to replace it
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Root and an unlocked bootloader are two different things
With root you could install battery stats for better analytics of your batterylife and appops to control the permissions of your apps.
i know, i had my previous phone routed (xperia T), and i installed custom roms in it etc (especially because of lagging). But before 4.4, the software of tihs phone worked perfect (no lags) so i had no interest in forcing running apps to close. but as i read, hope in a few weeks we get the update, if it's good i'll gona keep it and root the phone, else =>downgrade to 4.3 followed also by root
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i know, i had my previous phone routed (xperia T), and i installed custom roms in it etc (especially because of lagging). But before 4.4, the software of tihs phone worked perfect (no lags) so i had no interest in forcing running apps to close. but as i read, hope in a few weeks we get the update, if it's good i'll gona keep it and root the phone, else =>downgrade to 4.3 followed also by root
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Yeah I had the T, too, and 4.1.2 was a pain.
Please report back when you've testet your battery without bluetooth and gaming
When I'm at University I listen about 2 - 3 hours per day to music via bluetooth. My screen on time is about 2-3 hours. But I don't play and use wifi mostly.
ok, i will. Thanks