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Is there any way at all to get the HTC Clock app into Froyo? Not the widget, just the clock app. I want it because it's so much more full-featured than the default Android clock app.
It's seriously the only thing holding me back from going back to CM6. I loved everything else about Froyo.
Any advice? Or does this fall under the "Sense has not been ported over to Froyo" stance? I just want to know if the HTC Clock apk can just be tweaked to run on Froyo as well, since it's not a widget.
I know Regaw is trying to port sense to 2.2, but I use beautiful widgets and launcher pro plus. I would recommend buying these 2 apps and run CM6.
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I know Regaw is trying to port sense to 2.2, but I use beautiful widgets and launcher pro plus. I would recommend buying these 2 apps and run CM6.
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Indeed, I heard he is trying port as well, but I don't quite care about the Widgets. I still have my copy of Fancy Widget (which was/is free) and I bought a copy of LPP. The only thing is that it doesn't solve my issue, I really really like the clock app from sense. It had not only alarms, but a desk clock function, but a world clock, a stopwatch and even a countdown timer. I use all of those pretty frequently.
Actually, maybe, if you're using Froyo, you can rip the Clock apk from a sense rom and see if it runs in Froyo?
download iclock from amith gc found in market. The only thing it is missing is desk clock. Can't find one that isn't for HTC Sense
unCoRrUpTeD said:
download iclock from amith gc found in market. The only thing it is missing is desk clock. Can't find one that isn't for HTC Sense
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Well, I can't . The market is down, At any rate, I'm not looking for a widget, I have Fancy Widget, which looks exactly like the HTC Sense Clock Widget, and even let's me configure the tap zones (like saying, tap the clock and launch the clock application).
Problem is, I want that same clock app in Froyo, because then, I can finally leave Sense UI behind.
I too have been looking for the sense clock. I really liked the timer/stop watch it had. I used it all the time. I tried to find the .apk from other sense roms but everything I tried gave me errors and would not run. Some of the .apk's wouldn't install at all. I'm guessing they would have to be ported some how and thats way over my head.
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I'm also very interested with this. I totally prefer the HTC Clock over the standard android clock. Timer and stopwatch is a must for me.
im pretty sure the SENSE clock has different framework then the stock android. i could be wrong but yes you would have to use an app to get it.
There's an app 'Stopwatch & Timer' that seems to work fine. I know not everyone wants separate apps but I don't even get cake, let alone the opportunity to eat it too.
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t12icky0 said:
im pretty sure the SENSE clock has different framework then the stock android. i could be wrong but yes you would have to use an app to get it.
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HTC clock will not work on cm6, as it is built on the sense framework and cm6 is AOSP. About the best you'll get is fancy widget, though, beautiful widgets is a fine replacement. Sadly, nothing that I've found has all of the functionality of the sense clock. :-(
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HTC clock will not work on cm6, as it is built on the sense framework and cm6 is AOSP. About the best you'll get is fancy widget, though, beautiful widgets is a fine replacement. Sadly, nothing that I've found has all of the functionality of the sense clock. :-(
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo on Hero action here!
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exactly wat i was trying to say you just worded it better..lol
Sense Clock
If anyone figures this out I want it too. I've been scouring the web for hours since I rooted my phone trying to find the desk clock/world clock/ stop watch/timer/alarm clock...I can't believe no one else has come up with a way to put all of those together in one app...
Yes, yes, I know, Sense is not compatible yet with our MDPI devices (or something like that). I'm asking if its just the Sense Launcher/Widgets that are the issue or is it the apps (Clock app/Weather/Calender app) that are the issue?
I ask because the only thing stopping me from moving to Froyo is the lack of being able to use those apps. Especially the clock app, that's the most important to me. The HTC Sense Clock app beats the PANTS off of anything that the AOSP one is/can be themed to look like and is better in my experience than anything in the market. I use Fancy Widget since I had it backed up before the C&D and I use Launcher Plus Pro (even on the Zen Aria ROM that I currently use which comes with Sense built in). I posted something like this before, I think, but I want to be thorough about my question this time.
Again, to sum up, the Calender/Clock/Weather/Messaging/Friendstream widgets don't matter to me in the slightest. The applications behind those, now those I care about (not so much with Friendstream though).
Ideas?
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Yes, yes, I know, Sense is not compatible yet with our MDPI devices (or something like that). I'm asking if its just the Sense Launcher/Widgets that are the issue or is it the apps (Clock app/Weather/Calender app) that are the issue?
I ask because the only thing stopping me from moving to Froyo is the lack of being able to use those apps. Especially the clock app, that's the most important to me. The HTC Sense Clock app beats the PANTS off of anything that the AOSP one is/can be themed to look like and is better in my experience than anything in the market. I use Fancy Widget since I had it backed up before the C&D and I use Launcher Plus Pro (even on the Zen Aria ROM that I currently use which comes with Sense built in). I posted something like this before, I think, but I want to be thorough about my question this time.
Again, to sum up, the Calender/Clock/Weather/Messaging/Friendstream widgets don't matter to me in the slightest. The applications behind those, now those I care about (not so much with Friendstream though).
Ideas?
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They all operate on HTC's framework ... HTC completely reconfigures the framework to run Sense over Android. As a result, Sense will not run with the current Froyo's AOSP framework. However, if there is a port of a Sense 2.2 rom (say, from the Desire or Aria) down the road, you will find what you are looking for. But not until then, sadly.
LiquidSolstice said:
Yes, yes, I know, Sense is not compatible yet with our MDPI devices (or something like that). I'm asking if its just the Sense Launcher/Widgets that are the issue or is it the apps (Clock app/Weather/Calender app) that are the issue?
I ask because the only thing stopping me from moving to Froyo is the lack of being able to use those apps. Especially the clock app, that's the most important to me. The HTC Sense Clock app beats the PANTS off of anything that the AOSP one is/can be themed to look like and is better in my experience than anything in the market. I use Fancy Widget since I had it backed up before the C&D and I use Launcher Plus Pro (even on the Zen Aria ROM that I currently use which comes with Sense built in). I posted something like this before, I think, but I want to be thorough about my question this time.
Again, to sum up, the Calender/Clock/Weather/Messaging/Friendstream widgets don't matter to me in the slightest. The applications behind those, now those I care about (not so much with Friendstream though).
Ideas?
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Which applications are you wanting then ? I am curious about what your asking..that's all....I switched over to the RC1 build and have been going back and forth with deciding which look and feel I prefer. The stock sense phone application on my Hero,while nice, doesn't really impress me at all,not since I can modify my phone to use what programs I need now. This build allows me to have almost the same applications as any stock Froyo phone..note I said almost..The weather application that is loaded with this build is fantastic,and is 100x more responsive now than it ever was before.Same for the stock browser,and while it may not have all of the features say Dolphin has it doesn't have all the bloat neither so it runs faster. The stock flip clock to me is clumsy and...well..boring as hell and besides it takes up too much on my screen.
So..if you don't mind me asking..what applications are you really wanting from it that you can't live without that there isn't a good if not better alternative right now ? Like I said..I'm just curious..
Mac
LiquidSolstice said:
Yes, yes, I know, Sense is not compatible yet with our MDPI devices (or something like that). I'm asking if its just the Sense Launcher/Widgets that are the issue or is it the apps (Clock app/Weather/Calender app) that are the issue?
I ask because the only thing stopping me from moving to Froyo is the lack of being able to use those apps. Especially the clock app, that's the most important to me. The HTC Sense Clock app beats the PANTS off of anything that the AOSP one is/can be themed to look like and is better in my experience than anything in the market. I use Fancy Widget since I had it backed up before the C&D and I use Launcher Plus Pro (even on the Zen Aria ROM that I currently use which comes with Sense built in). I posted something like this before, I think, but I want to be thorough about my question this time.
Again, to sum up, the Calender/Clock/Weather/Messaging/Friendstream widgets don't matter to me in the slightest. The applications behind those, now those I care about (not so much with Friendstream though).
Ideas?
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Nothing sense (apps or widgets) will work with an AOSP rom, as the framework for the HTC apps aren't there.
Well, to be honest...I currently have ALL the same widgets working on my 2.2 Hero that I did when I was running 2.1 w/ Sense....
kwheel596 said:
Well, to be honest...I currently have ALL the same widgets working on my 2.2 Hero that I did when I was running 2.1 w/ Sense....
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But see, I don't care about widgets. Launcher Pro Plus has all the widgets I need, and Fancy Widget suffices for my clock.
Anyways, thanks for the clarification everyone, I shoulda guessed that the apps were included in the locked framework, or someone would have ported it by now.
I just use the clock on the top rite of the notification bar when I need to cheak the weather there are many options out there for me to choose from.Im fine without sense. AOSP Is all I think ill ever need.
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I just use the clock on the top rite of the notification bar when I need to cheak the weather there are many options out there for me to choose from.Im fine without sense. AOSP Is all I think ill ever need.
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I.....don't care about the widgets (which I've said like 7 times now ) I care about the applications, specifically. The Sense clock app destroys the AOSP clock app in every single way possible. Things like that.
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Which applications are you wanting then ? I am curious about what your asking..that's all....I switched over to the RC1 build and have been going back and forth with deciding which look and feel I prefer. The stock sense phone application on my Hero,while nice, doesn't really impress me at all,not since I can modify my phone to use what programs I need now. This build allows me to have almost the same applications as any stock Froyo phone..note I said almost..The weather application that is loaded with this build is fantastic,and is 100x more responsive now than it ever was before.Same for the stock browser,and while it may not have all of the features say Dolphin has it doesn't have all the bloat neither so it runs faster. The stock flip clock to me is clumsy and...well..boring as hell and besides it takes up too much on my screen.
So..if you don't mind me asking..what applications are you really wanting from it that you can't live without that there isn't a good if not better alternative right now ? Like I said..I'm just curious..
Mac
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The clock application itself. It looks and functions perfectly. The AOSP Clock app is pretty paltry (and, forgive me, downright ugly), as is the calender app and the weather app. Oh, and I suppose Friendstream as well, seeing as that app works better for my purposes than even the official Facebook app.
I really liked the Sense Homescreen clock with the animated weather. I thought I would miss it after flashing CM6. I installed Beautiful Widgets recently and it does everything the Sense Homescreen clock did and more. It's more customizable with skins, too.
DataHawg said:
I really liked the Sense Homescreen clock with the animated weather. I thought I would miss it after flashing CM6. I installed Beautiful Widgets recently and it does everything the Sense Homescreen clock did and more. It's more customizable with skins, too.
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Right, which is why I said apps, not widgets.
The lag seen with ADW is really starting to annoy me. At first I was ultra happy with the phone, but then some of my friends with iphone 4s pointed out how choppy the switching of homescreens was on the N1 along with the stutter seen on the app drawer. I have googled everything and cant find a fix. I already tried doing the recomended settings from the link below, but there is still lag. Will switching to launcher pro fix my issues? I am hesitant to switch because I love that ADW has the look of the stock froyo launcher, is it even possible to have the stock dock look in launcher pro?
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/2700-adw-vs-launcher-pro-for-cm6/page__view__findpost__p__25057
Ignorance is bliss...
Now ask your friends with iPhone to show you an app that will automatically turn off their WiFi and turn on BT when they leave their home, for example. Then ask them to show you live wallpaper on their phones. When they fail, chill out and understand that you can't fix it. Android launchers aren't capable of seamless scrolling, because the system behind them wasn't meant for pretty graphics.
You're only 2346851 in number to ask this question.
Jack_R1 said:
Ignorance is bliss...
Now ask your friends with iPhone to show you an app that will automatically turn off their WiFi and turn on BT when they leave their home, for example. Then ask them to show you live wallpaper on their phones. When they fail, chill out and understand that you can't fix it. Android launchers aren't capable of seamless scrolling, because the system behind them wasn't meant for pretty graphics.
You're only 2346851 in number to ask this question.
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Haha so true, ignorance is great. Yea i know alot of people had similar questions, but all the threads i found were not for N1s and they were pretty old, figured out some genius must have done something about it since just about everything else has been done on these xda forums. I just hate seeing wasted potential. The snapdragon and 512mb ram is more than enough horsepower to get simple smooth scrolling down. Just wish there was some type of gpu acceleration support.
By the way how do you turn off the wifi automatically when you leave home? I rely on the powercontrol widget.
I had a similar point from an iPhone user, I barely noticed it - and then I pointed out I was running a custom launcher (launcher pro) with a TON of widgets and animated wallpaper. Since then an update has made it silky smooth.
There are a few themes in launcher pro, default froyo is one - I use wide froyo which gives me:
phone-contacts-app-drawer-sms-browser
buttons.
Gingerbread should help in this department, or so they say. Currently the best the launchers can do still has a hiccup or two from time to time. Personally, I don't even notice it, using LauncherPro, as the poster above me, with all 7 screens full of icons and widgets, and Starfield wallpaper.
Locale. It's a great concept app. I used it, but stopped - now I just keep BT and WiFi constantly on (BT almost doesn't drain battery - usually less than 2% of the power - and WiFi is present at home and at work, so I turn it off only when the phone is expected to last long in places where no WiFi is found). Since I don't have other uses - like turning down the volume automatically in specific places, etc - I stopped using it.
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... along with the stutter seen on the app drawer.
is it even possible to have the stock dock look in launcher pro?
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Have you changed the app drawer to 4 apps per row? I remember 5 per row being set on cm6, that will make some difference.
Yes, launcher Pro has a Froyo dock look. In the settings its called "froyo" I think. It looks pretty good, a little different than ADW.
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Have you changed the app drawer to 4 apps per row? I remember 5 per row being set on cm6, that will make some difference.
Yes, launcher Pro has a Froyo dock look. In the settings its called "froyo" I think. It looks pretty good, a little different than ADW.
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Yea i did change it to 4 apps per row, and it did help a little. Im going to test out launcher pro. Is there anything i should know about switching launchers and running cyanogen 6? If i dont like launcher pro will it be easy to switch back? Some places said that adw still runs in the background and that i have to uninstall adw for it to not hog any resources.
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Yea i did change it to 4 apps per row, and it did help a little. Im going to test out launcher pro. Is there anything i should know about switching launchers and running cyanogen 6? If i dont like launcher pro will it be easy to switch back? Some places said that adw still runs in the background and that i have to uninstall adw for it to not hog any resources.
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You can easily switch back. A lot of people seems to be experiencing a little lag with adw in the latest CM version. Launcher pro doesn't have this issue.
I'm not sure about Adw running in the background, but you can easily uninstall it using titanium backup.
I just played around with launcherpro and im not impressed. There was still lag, though it could have been because i didnt set a default launcher and adw was still running in the background. The switching between the homescreens was a little smoother, but thats because it did it alot slower. I prefer the more stock look that adw offers. On launcher pro the screens had 4x4 columns/rows but i didnt like the grid spacing. For some reason my beautiful widgets weather/clock was 20% smaller in size compared to ADW. Not sure why the widgets and icon sizes are smaller in launcherpro (i kept switching back and forth between launchers to compare).
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I just played around with launcherpro and im not impressed. There was still lag, though it could have been because i didnt set a default launcher and adw was still running in the background. The switching between the homescreens was a little smoother, but thats because it did it alot slower. I prefer the more stock look that adw offers. On launcher pro the screens had 4x4 columns/rows but i didnt like the grid spacing. For some reason my beautiful widgets weather/clock was 20% smaller in size compared to ADW. Not sure why the widgets and icon sizes are smaller in launcherpro (i kept switching back and forth between launchers to compare).
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My experience is that Launcher pro is generally smoother and faster than ADW. I believe the newer versions of ADW have improved quite a bit, but LP still gets my vote.
However since the 22x nightlies as well as the official 6.1RC1, I have been experiencing some lags no matter which launcher I am using
If you need to stay with CM, you might wanna try another kernel, it helps
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My experience is that Launcher pro is generally smoother and faster than ADW. I believe the newer versions of ADW have improved quite a bit, but LP still gets my vote.
However since the 22x nightlies as well as the official 6.1RC1, I have been experiencing some lags no matter which launcher I am using
If you need to stay with CM, you might wanna try another kernel, it helps
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I bought my nexus with cm6 already installed, and still havent bothered updating to the newest 6.1 version. Mainly im just waiting till the end of the month. Dont want to mess anything up and i need my phone to be fully functional till then. All i know is that in the sd card I saw a clockworkmod file, so im assuming thats the backup. I will go into installing custom roms probably when gingerbread is released. I might try installing launcher pro again and uninstalling adw fully and see if that fixes the lag. I like ADW and just wish the app scrolling was a little more smooth.
**** I just found out that my ADW version was 1.0.1, and there have many updates since then. I found a 1.2.0 version and will test that out. http://code.google.com/p/adw-launcher-android/downloads/list
Learn to play with your N1. Once you're proficient, you could easily do partial wipes and ROM flips inside of 5mins.
Heck, if you've got a good wifi you might be able to wipe full and restore inside of 10 mins.
Point being, you'd feel safer about trying/looking at changes like a new different launcher and ROMs, knowing that you can flip back to a solid setup with all your data and apps intact.
This play is part of the beauty in the N1.
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Learn to play with your N1. Once you're proficient, you could easily do partial wipes and ROM flips inside of 5mins.
Heck, if you've got a good wifi you might be able to wipe full and restore inside of 10 mins.
Point being, you'd feel safer about trying/looking at changes like a new different launcher and ROMs, knowing that you can flip back to a solid setup with all your data and apps intact.
This play is part of the beauty in the N1.
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Couldn't agree more I used to juggle roms and now I use miuimod with lpp with the screen cache turned off and if I have to compete against a iPhone showdown then I put my min CPU at 384 and it should be as smooth if not smoother. n1 is great for tinkering
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also turning off the transparency in the drawer should help improve smoothness
Found out the cause of the problem was live wallpapers. On launcher pro, as soon as live wallpaper was disabled it ran like butter. I was hoping to get live wallpapers to work also, but having lag is not a good trade off.
smachine said:
Found out the cause of the problem was live wallpapers. On launcher pro, as soon as live wallpaper was disabled it ran like butter. I was hoping to get live wallpapers to work also, but having lag is not a good trade off.
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A lot of it depends on the specific wallpaper in question. Slower, more subtle animations tend to behave better (and use less battery) than some of the more intense ones. I recommend one called Substrate - it slowly evolves and changes, but keeps the homescreen transitions very smooth and snappy.
I'm currently running one called "better matrix" or something similar that is very eye catching but doesn't bog things down too much.
About homescreen replacement app. Is there one that let me set portrait wallpaper for each screen? so far awd ...., go luncher and launcher pro all have this one wallpaper with smooth scrole thing, I don't really like that. Also if i disable froyo widget b4 i launch one of these homescreens, do i gain more memory or battery life. Finally about rooting, I've googled it but I'm not quit up to speed yet. Like can i use theme from xda without rooting? and do i gain more internal memory after installing one of the custum rom here? Thankssss guys
There are options in Launcher Pro to stop wallpaper scrolling, but it still makes you set a landscape wallpaper as far as I know.
This is what I use to set stationary portrait wallpapers, hope its what your looking for! This is the ad supported version so its free.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.demo-galmoori-wallpapereditor-jnAAn.aspx
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It always put a smile on my face when i see people say that they wrote a pose from their devices.
for guys who have switched to CM7/miui or any other non-stock custom ROMS ,wht do u guys miss from the stock ROM??
generally LG widgets and App drawer..)
LG video player,
because other hw accelerated video players can play HD good on external screen, or projector, but subtitles are still shown on phones screen. Maybe this issue was solved since i realized it.
LG widgets
the last good thing on stock firmware. i like LG stock callendar.
LG calender widget!
Er nothing really lol.
the lockscreen
Tap to move cursor
+1 i miss that too, it so cool!!
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Tap to move cursor
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The majority of things working (like the camera). I say majority because GPS is a bit buggered at the moment, and loses signal WAYYY to easily :-(
What I won't miss if I go to the dark side.. having plenty of spare RAM, but things like Dungeon defenders running like a dog randomly.
What I will enjoy.. ability to overclock when I need to
I stayed on a custom stock rom to keep the lghome, its the only app drawer that allows you to organize your games and apps into category's i cant imagine how anyone manages without that ability everytime i try and use a different home screen i end up uninstalling it because they are **** in comparison the only thing bad about it is its somewhat choppy and the screen on takes a while.
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I stayed on a custom stock rom to keep the lghome, its the only app drawer that allows you to organize your games and apps into category's i cant imagine how anyone manages without that ability everytime i try and use a different home screen i end up uninstalling it because they are **** in comparison the only thing bad about it is its somewhat choppy and the screen on takes a while.
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ADW Launcher ex can organize your apps
markop90 said:
ADW Launcher ex can organize your apps
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Yess , ADW EX for the win!
I dont miss anything from stock rom
I'm on ICS now, and now i mostly wanna forget the LG software
just the animated LG weather widget.
i know that the widget is available, but actually the animation is what i miss.
i loved it
edit: if someone knows a widget with the same or similar fullscreen animation, please give me the information
BW(beautiful widgets) widgets with animation
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+1 i miss that too, it so cool!!
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Me too it was really cool!!
Ability to make native 3g video calls.
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In order of importance:
Gestures
Dialer
Alarm Clock
Phone Book
I love the feel and speed of CM roms, but my phone is my main alarm clock and i couldn't live without "flip to snooze" andothe perks that come with gestures.
Also the smart dialer and the Facebook contacts integration in the stock Phonebook is very convenient for me. I could'nt yet replicate it in any other 3rd party software.
Stock Video Player, Stock Camera (this one has been ported), and LG's calendar widget
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In order of importance:
Gestures
Dialer
Alarm Clock
Phone Book
I love the feel and speed of CM roms, but my phone is my main alarm clock and i couldn't live without "flip to snooze" andothe perks that come with gestures.
Also the smart dialer and the Facebook contacts integration in the stock Phonebook is very convenient for me. I could'nt yet replicate it in any other 3rd party software.
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Most of those features are available in MIUI, I suggest you to try it if you haven't. As far as basic phone's features are concerned, MIUI has them covered very well.
Sadly it's not as smooth as CM is.
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BW(beautiful widgets) widgets with animation
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but thats not the same i want the animation when i unlock the phone, or when i refresh the temperature.
you know what i mean.
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hellrider77 said:
In order of importance:
Gestures
Dialer
Alarm Clock
Phone Book
I love the feel and speed of CM roms, but my phone is my main alarm clock and i couldn't live without "flip to snooze" andothe perks that come with gestures.
Also the smart dialer and the Facebook contacts integration in the stock Phonebook is very convenient for me. I could'nt yet replicate it in any other 3rd party software.
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as far as i remember, the flip to snooze feature is in the cm7 too.
in the cm settings.
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