I have begun to start flashing my captivate and have noticed that (at least to what i believe) in froyo you can not use headphones to listen to call audio. I have flashed 2 stock eclair roms and they are working perfectly with this feature. However any eclair rom I try sound is only routed to the internal speakers. I have tried Perception, cognition and even JI6 stock. None will route call audio through the headphones.
If anyone could test it on their phones and report back that would be great. I am wondering if it a bug in captivate froyo roms, or if it is just because of froyo.
*Update*
Found this thread in the Vibrant Forums. Initially they say it is a problem with froyo. However there are a couple roms which do fix the problem. So there must be a way for our captivate too.
Any one have any luck testing this on their rom?
has a solution been found for this?
i cant use any audio out =(, having the same problem with it hooked up in my car
Look for roms that have:
xcaliburinhand's
-headset jack fix
hardware solutions
You are correct sir. Anything 2.2 or newer (2.2.1) does not enable audio out through the headset (even with Xcal's headset fix) unless you are using a headset that has a microphone on it.
How does the phone know? If you look at your headset that came with the phone, it has 3 rings around the plug. Left audio, Right audio, and Mic. If the phone doesn't see that 3rd ring, then it will turn off audio out when a call comes in.
The fix will cost you about $20. You can get an adapter with 3 rings going into the phone, and a female spot for the audio you hook to your car.
If you already have a 3.5mm jack hard wired to your vehicle and/or want to use the cable you have, use this:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26380 (what I got)
or this:
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-iSoni...RCTS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1295297829&sr=8-2
(what I wish I would have got)
If you have an AUX port on the front of your radio, and want another solution (new cable) buy this:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-GC170...PYKK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1295297829&sr=8-4
Good luck.
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You are correct sir. Anything 2.2 or newer (2.2.1) does not enable audio out through the headset (even with Xcal's headset fix) unless you are using a headset that has a microphone on it.
How does the phone know? If you look at your headset that came with the phone, it has 3 rings around the plug. Left audio, Right audio, and Mic. If the phone doesn't see that 3rd ring, then it will turn off audio out when a call comes in.
The fix will cost you about $20. You can get an adapter with 3 rings going into the phone, and a female spot for the audio you hook to your car.
If you already have a 3.5mm jack hard wired to your vehicle and/or want to use the cable you have, use this:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26380 (what I got)
or this:
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-iSoni...RCTS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1295297829&sr=8-2
(what I wish I would have got)
If you have an AUX port on the front of your radio, and want another solution (new cable) buy this:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-GC170...PYKK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1295297829&sr=8-4
Good luck.
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Thank you so much for your informative post.
Problem is.... $20 is too much atm. I am POOR with a capital PO'.... I couldn't afford to capitalize the or. Wonder if there would possibly be any way to work around this issue software-wise? My stereo aux cable worked great in Eclair. Problem is, I don't get al the speed and shiny of Froyo with Eclair. At least I know what the issue is now...
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You are correct sir. Anything 2.2 or newer (2.2.1) does not enable audio out through the headset (even with Xcal's headset fix) unless you are using a headset that has a microphone on it.
How does the phone know? If you look at your headset that came with the phone, it has 3 rings around the plug. Left audio, Right audio, and Mic. If the phone doesn't see that 3rd ring, then it will turn off audio out when a call comes in.
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Pretty much nailed it. Once the kernel receives the interrupt that something has been plugged in, it checks the resistance between ring 3 and 4 (microphone and ground). If it is low, the kernel recognizes that it is either a normal pair of earphones or a line out (since ring 3 and 4 are the same on a normal 3 ring connector).
Gothpunk4christ reached out to me for a solution that doesn't require additional hardware (still want's to use the microphone on the handset). Shouldn't be too difficult to build a custom kernel that treats headphones/line out as a wired headset. The kicker is making sure the kernel doesn't disable the handset microphone.
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Pretty much nailed it. Once the kernel receives the interrupt that something has been plugged in, it checks the resistance between ring 3 and 4 (microphone and ground). If it is low, the kernel recognizes that it is either a normal pair of earphones or a line out (since ring 3 and 4 are the same on a normal 3 ring connector).
Gothpunk4christ reached out to me for a solution that doesn't require additional hardware (still want's to use the microphone on the handset). Shouldn't be too difficult to build a custom kernel that treats headphones/line out as a wired headset. The kicker is making sure the kernel doesn't disable the handset microphone.
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You're awesome dude.
If anyone's looking for someone to randomly donate to, this guy is it. He's been very helpful and polite and going beyond what I would consider a helpful response in order to make this work.
So will this hit development anytime soon?
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seriously.
This is majorly irritating--I use my captivate as an mp3player all the time and it's a pain in the ass to take out my headphones every time a call comes through.
I9000_reoriented_v2.3.1_bln_hpcalls.zip has a fix in it.
Enjoy.
xcaliburinhand said:
I9000_reoriented_v2.3.1_bln_hpcalls.zip has a fix in it.
Enjoy.
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I believe the appropriate thread for the kernel fix is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
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I believe the appropriate thread for the kernel fix is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
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I can confirm that this kernel does fix the call audio issue. Everything gets routed through the headphones, which is a nice sigh of relief. Thanks for all of your input everyone!
EDIT: I am pretty sure cognition 3.04 has this functionality built in to it.
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I can confirm that this kernel does fix the call audio issue. Everything gets routed through the headphones, which is a nice sigh of relief. Thanks for all of your input everyone!
EDIT: I am pretty sure cognition 3.04 has this functionality built in to it.
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As does D1ll1gaf's newer stuff.
Let me tell you about my quest regarding this subject:
I first tried using a Motorokr t505 bluetooth device that featured a FM transmitter, but the audio quality was absolutely horrible thru the car radio (too much static regardless which station you tried), not to mention the clumsy way you had to switch back and forth from phone mode to music player via the FM transmitter, coupled with the fact the stupid device was always giving you a new FM station to tune into - it just simply was way too much of a hassle plus more of a safety hazard trying to get the motorokr device to work and in the correct mode while driving. There had to be a better, more simply way to enjoy the feature of using your cell phone for conversations thru your car radio.
I've been using a cheap $15 FM transmitter (http://www.amazon.com/Coby-CA-745-W...F6G0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298180340&sr=8-1) I got a while back from Amazon and the mp3 music quality from my Samsung Captivate was great thru to my car stereo - I mean no static what-so-ever. The problem was, I couldn't use the phone thru the care stereo. So I rooted my phone, and now a whole new world opened up.
I up my Firmware to 2.2.1 (froyo) via superoneclick, change to a custom ROM ParagonRCS (see http://alchemistar.blogspot.com/2010/11/samsung-captivate-custom-rom-list-1110.html ), and I took advantage of the speedmod kernal (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880 ).
Now my Samsung Captivate, when connected to my cheap FM transmitter, can send and receive calls thru my car stereo. I also use a free app called ChoiceDialer. So now all I have to do is invoke ChoiceDialer (the only time I have to touch the phone while driving), say who I want to call, and voila - my call goes thru the car radio. Also, when my mp3 music is playing thru the radio via my Captivate, and a call comes in (which I have it setup on my phone to auto answer after 2 seconds), the music pauses and I just start talking - excellent!!!
The only slightly down side is when I'm NOT listening to my mp3 player and thus tuned into another FM station, when a call does comes in, I have to select on my stereo the pre-set button that's set to the station my FM transmitter is set to, but not a big deal - I certainly can live with that!
Sorry for the long-winded response, but you don't know (or maybe you do) how frustrating it was trying to get information on this subject. I thought bluetooth was the answer, but quite frankly, my 1st and only experince with bluetooth sucked.
The end!
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I can't seem to find a program which will route ALL audio to my mono bt earpiece. If there is such an app pls pst. If not, I'd like to help in the dev of such an app. Basicly, whenever the phone sees any audio bt device it will start routing all audio to that device. And it should have a built in audio mixer to control the different programs' volume levels separately.
Let me know what you think
Thanks.
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bumping in hopes for some help on the subject
Agreed, I ride a motorcycle, and music without the chords would be nice.
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Check if any of those listed apps works for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547604
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As a bike commuter this feature would be great. I typically listen to streams and podcasts where fidelity is not priority one. I use a cheap pair of corded headphones where I chop one ear bud off so that I can keep my left ear, traffic side, open. It would be sweet to have the ability to make/take calls on my commute and listen to audio as well. I know that there are BT earpieces that are a2dp, but should I really have to drop another 40 clams to get one, hells no this is android we get what we want right? That said I would develop a prog to do this but it will take me 6 mos as I have no background. So, to kind devs, myself and several others that I have seen scouring for this sol'n would gladly help test and pay for this functionality.
I have been looking also. Have not found anything to even mention. I used to have it on my old MinMo phone, but that's the ONLY damn thing I miss about it. Anyone have a recomendation.
theres a bunch of cheap A2DP headsets at dealextreme.com just do a search for a2dp
But I do mean cheap dont expect miracles for sound quality or battery life . . . but did I mention cheap?
We're not trying to solve our problems by purchasing MORE hardware, we're trying to make do with what we have and find new uses for old stuff. We want to send ALL the audio from the device to a mono NON a2dp earpiece. It can't honestly be that hard, Please devs. And don't forget your donate buttons.
Sound Route Switcher
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-omercade-headsetprojectii-jmiw.aspx
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Sound Route Switcher
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-omercade-headsetprojectii-jmiw.aspx
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This is not working for me, and I have 3.0. Doubt that 4.0 is working on the G1.
Hello!
Sorry to up this "old" topic, but I'm a biker too and i have a scala rider Q2 bluetooth device. This device does not support the bluetooth A2AP x-(
The phone calls trough bluetooth is ok but no music or GPS....
I found a solution : Bluetooth Audio Widget (i could not post the link but you can find it on the android market)
This Widget/application route all the sounds from your device to the bluethoot headphones!
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I have been using "Super BT Mono Pro" on my T-Mobile G2. It is working better than a few of the other apps that I have tried. It is also available on the Market.
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_developer/sinwidget_itzo.html
How do you like that Q2? Does it work well on FM, or is its radio coverage spotty like the other units? I still think they have awesome audio when you are talking to someone. I gave up the Scala Rider FM for a Parrot SK4000.
The upgrade was super smooth and I am rooted on Froyo. Prior to the upgrade, I was able to connect to my car audio via a 3.5mm connection that interfaces with the cassette deck. Whenever I received phone calls, I could automatically hear the caller through the car speakers. That seems to have gone away. It no longer happens. Is there a setting that I need to change to re-enable that option? I soooo miss that hands free feel. Please help.
Outside of that one small issue, Froyo is incredible. Where I used to end my 8 hour day at work with approximately 55% battery remaining, I now end the same day with 70-75% remaining. Love it!
I have been running the Cog 2.2 Beta2 and have not had any problems with audio output in the car. My car does not have A2DP so I run the music out though the 3.5mm and use BT for phone calls only. When a call comes in my music fades and the BT audio takes over without problem.
b3asty1 said:
The upgrade was super smooth and I am rooted on Froyo. Prior to the upgrade, I was able to connect to my car audio via a 3.5mm connection that interfaces with the cassette deck. Whenever I received phone calls, I could automatically hear the caller through the car speakers. That seems to have gone away. It no longer happens. Is there a setting that I need to change to re-enable that option? I soooo miss that hands free feel. Please help.
Outside of that one small issue, Froyo is incredible. Where I used to end my 8 hour day at work with approximately 55% battery remaining, I now end the same day with 70-75% remaining. Love it!
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Audio out through headset jack on calls is a known issue with the captivate froyo release. There is no workaround i have heard of. You can check the Froyo issues thread for more info.
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Audio out through headset jack on calls is a known issue with the captivate froyo release. There is no workaround i have heard of. You can check the Froyo issues thread for more info.
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Alright. Thanks. At least I know it's not just me.
Hello all,
I would like to pose an observation to who ever the developers are for the 2.2 Froyo version for the Samsung Captivate (actual issue in bold/question italicized to skip the history). *A bit of history of what I have done with my phone* I have only had my phone for about a week now and when I got it it was 2.1. The phone worked flawlessly but I am a geek and I like to hack things to unleash it's full capacity.
Anyways, I updated using the AT&T updated way to 2.1v1 then Rooted my phone. WOW, what an improvement!!! Well I couldn't stop there when 2.2 was one click way using Odin 3 v1.30. This worked perfectly and BOOM, I now have v.2.2 on my phone. Flash works great, wireless tether works perfectly and all the other bells and whistles were all clicking together.
Before I updated to 2.2 (which for the Captivate is "unofficial"), I was able to plug my phone in using the Audio Aux port (for head phones) directly into my car stereo and use that as a sort of "Speaker Phone" while I was driving. The sound would come out of the car speakers clear and I could talk at a normal tone of voice while my phone was on the dash and the person on the other end couldn't even tell. After I updated to 2.2, the sound quality is at a whisper at full volume for the stereo. This only happens during a phone call, if I listen to Pandora or TuneIn, the sound is crystal clear.
I know that this is not the end of the world but it is extremely nice to use this when the phone is mounted and I am using one of the many great "driving apps" that are available for the Droid. The phone call is in the background and I see the Nav Maps or see speed traps using Trapster while I talk to my wife (I love this processor!!!).
I have also rooted my phone and that did not solve the issue. That was a long shot but it needed to be done.
OK, now here is the question, does anybody know how to fix this?
I am running 2.2 and use my phone's aux audio out for music but BT for phone. I will try and replicate your issue today. I am no dev but I'll see if it is an isolated incident or not.
Until then, a few questions to clarify:
1. have you tried testing the phone audio out with another device such as headset or home receiver?
2. What type of cable/adapters are you using? (3.5mm male to 3.5mm male)
3. Did you perform a master clear before going to 2.2
I'm having the same issue and will try to troubleshoot it so you know where to look. Plugging into my stereo is just like plugging into regular speakers/headphones. Going to revert my phone back to stock, do all stock update and then add this to it with the logging on. Probably won't have all the detail till this weekend.
Mike
Shovelhead84- 1) Yes, I have tried to see if the works with my computer speakers and the same issue is still occuring 2) it is a male to male cable (don't know the size but sounds like 3.5mm is the default so lets go with that) 3) No I did not do master clear before updating to 2.2 Froyo. I read that it wipes everything clean during the proccess so didn't really think that I should be now, of course, I could see why a master clean would be needed. I should have known. Oh well, you live and you learn and you share your knoledge.
makton3g- Thank you for your help. It sounds like you are going to put some realy leg work into this issue. Thanks. When you say "with logging on", is that something in SDK? I havn't began that journey yet, the SDK. so I have no idea what options are avalible...
I have this problem as well. Is there a solution?
All of the 2.2 based ROMs don't have the headset functionality I'm looking for, and it appears it's a 2.2 issue.
Is anyone still working on 2.1 based ROM's?
Whether it's still under development or not, where can I find a couple of good simple bloatware free 2.1 based ROMs?
I tried searching the development forum, but there's so much about current ROMs (2.2 based) that I can't filter through them and find a 2.1 based ROM.
Thanks, alabamaroping
what headset functionality do you think is broken on all 2.2 roms? those issues have all been resolved unless you have some random new one
I'm looking to have the call output routed through a standard headset connection, NOT the headset that came with the phone that supports mic, and stereo audio out.
A standard headphone connection only has the audio out, no mic. (as I'm sure you know). I'll be listening to music in my truck, and a call will come in and i'll have to unjack the 3.5mm jack and grab the phone instead of the call just routing through the speakers.
I've tried the following: (Cognition 2.3b7, AXURA 2.4, eSPyeL's ROM Beta3.4.1). None of them work.
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I'm looking to have the call output routed through a standard headset connection, NOT the headset that came with the phone that supports mic, and stereo audio out.
A standard headphone connection only has the audio out, no mic. (as I'm sure you know). I'll be listening to music in my truck, and a call will come in and i'll have to unjack the 3.5mm jack and grab the phone instead of the call just routing through the speakers.
I've tried the following: (Cognition 2.3b7, AXURA 2.4, eSPyeL's ROM Beta3.4.1). None of them work.
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AS far as I know no one is still working on 2.1 roms anymore. To tell the truth from all the roms I have have seen the "issue" with the headset without a mic may not be a clitch. I will have to ask a few people that got the 2.2 official update to make sure but I think it was changed on purpose by google. (could be wrong though, will have to wait till I talk to some people)
The car dock allows call output to standard headphones, just got mine yesterday and it works. But, you know it's against the law almost everywhere to wear headphones and drive right?
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Actually, I don't drive with headphones. I have a 3.5mm jack run into my truck stereo system. It's the same as a headphone jack, so I just use that as an example.
I've been using headphones to test functionality when sitting in my office, and the jack is the same, so I've been using the two interchangeably.
However, you are correct: it's unsafe to drive with headphones, but I see the iPeople doing it with their iPhones & iPods all the time.
The only 2.1 ROM out there still that should be available is Cognition. Lord knows though I haven't tried to download it... buyer beware.
Might just be easier to keep your "stock" 2.1 - Root it and get an application like Titanium Backup that will uninstall the bloat on your phone.
And.. I thought the issue for 2.2 custom ROMS were due to the use of i9000 modems/kernels? Or was that only Bluetooth?
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And.. I thought the issue for 2.2 custom ROMS were due to the use of i9000 modems/kernels? Or was that only Bluetooth?
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Also, does the bluetooth issue still exist on the never versions? I haven't used my bluetooth earpiece in along time so I haven't bothered to try on these newer roms.
My gut tells me this maybe a lollipop issue in general.
*On a call
*Another call comes in
*Nexus 6 switches audio source to handset
*Call is no longer on my Bluetooth earpiece
This can happen too when email / SMS arrives. I read about a lot of car BT based issues...this is just in the headset now.
Anyone out there feeling this too?
There is a problem with Bluetooth in Lollipop or the Nexus 6
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My gut tells me this maybe a lollipop issue in general.
*On a call
*Another call comes in
*Nexus 6 switches audio source to handset
*Call is no longer on my Bluetooth earpiece
This can happen too when email / SMS arrives. I read about a lot of car BT based issues...this is just in the headset now.
Anyone out there feeling this too?
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Not many people use BT in their car or daily life at this point in time. Can't tell you how many people I see driving around with a phone in one hand and a steering wheel in the other. Kind of like people here in the USA that don't use cruise control on the highway when clearly you know that their car has it. But I've been hands free in cars for over six years in fact since the HTC HD2 came out. I realized at that point, that to be safe one must use BT and have equipment in car to support this. It's becoming a law in most states in the USA but not all and is not enforced by law as much as it should be, but those times are going to change. There are some forums on the web that talk about bluetooth in lollipop and many of them are confused and think they know what the problem is, but none have proved it yet. There are also other sources that claim BT is on it's way out, I don't know about that. But yes, there are some weird things happening with bluetooth if you use it a lot. I don't know what the answer may be to your problem but you might want to try a search on google to find out more information about this issue. Good luck.
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Not many people use BT in their car or daily life at this point in time. Can't tell you how many people I see driving around with a phone in one hand and a steering wheel in the other. Kind of like people here in the USA that don't use cruise control on the highway when clearly you know that their car has it. But I've been hands free in cars for over six years in fact since the HTC HD2 came out. I realized at that point, that to be safe one must use BT and have equipment in car to support this. It's becoming a law in most states in the USA but not all and is not enforced by law as much as it should be, but those times are going to change. There are some forums on the web that talk about bluetooth in lollipop and many of them are confused and think they know what the problem is, but none have proved it yet. There are also other sources that claim BT is on it's way out, I don't know about that. But yes, there are some weird things happening with bluetooth if you use it a lot. I don't know what the answer may be to your problem but you might want to try a search on google to find out more information about this issue. Good luck.
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Interesting perspective and ty for taking the time to post this.
Back to the point though; anyone out there having these types of specific challenges with Bluetooth on the N6 as I described above? It really makes this phone unusable for me @ work.
Yes, I also use BT in my vehicle. It used to connect through my car speakers automatically, but now im finding that when making/receiving a call, I need to manually tell it to switch to car speakers. I mean, why the hell would my car speakers stop playing regular radio when a call comes in and to make me still use my handset to talk/listen?having to manually switch to car speakers is dangerouse while on the freeway.
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Yes, I also use BT in my vehicle. It used to connect through my car speakers automatically, but now im finding that when making/receiving a call, I need to manually tell it to switch to car speakers. I mean, why the hell would my car speakers stop playing regular radio when a call comes in and to make me still use my handset to talk/listen?having to manually switch to car speakers is dangerouse while on the freeway.
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I was experiencing something similar.
I had a 2009 model Pioneer AVIC-x910BT headunit in my truck. And bluetooth worked fine until I got my Nexus 6 (coming from a Nexus 5 and Nexus 4). The Nexus 6 would mute my car audio properly, but when I picked up the phone, the phonecall was on the phone and not the car speakers.
I have the same car, but now I have a 2015 model Pioneer AVIC-8100NEX with Android Auto, and have not had one BT issue yet. I am assuming that the issue was either the N6 or Lollipop5.0 was having issues with the older BT technology my old radio used. Now that I have the newer radio, no call issues yet.
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Yes, I also use BT in my vehicle. It used to connect through my car speakers automatically, but now im finding that when making/receiving a call, I need to manually tell it to switch to car speakers. I mean, why the hell would my car speakers stop playing regular radio when a call comes in and to make me still use my handset to talk/listen?having to manually switch to car speakers is dangerouse while on the freeway.
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Could you share the model and make or the car?
to confirm my understanding,the call audio was on phone speaker and you had to manually select the it every time?
Was this working in the past for you?
Does this happen for every call or only during multiparty call?
I am now using a different BT headset, Jabra, and the model is at least a year old. I think I am going to look for a completely new model of bluetooth headset / earpiece that came on the market much more recently and see if this makes a difference.
I have been using a wired headset to avoid these challenges, but very much miss hands free use for phone calls. Anyone else feeling this issue out there?
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It has happened to me as well. I use a Jabra Tour BT speakerphone, while having music streamed via a BB BT gateway to my car speakers When on the phone and another call / sms /email comes in, the phone connection to Jabra Tour is dropped, I have to manually reconnect (but after reconnecting to Jabra the phone call ends, somehow the media stream switches from BB gateway to Jabra = more manual switching). Unsafe to be doing this on a highway. My Galaxy Note 3 and prior to that Galaxy S3 worked perfectly well with the same setup.
I understand that Nexus 6 takes advantage of the new BT tech, but it should have been made backwards compatible with the older BT devices.