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'iPhone 4' - What do you lot think?

So far, not a 100% fail like the last one imo
Some good features. But Im still pissed at the way Jobs is making out like he invented it all. E.g. 720P video...

Boring... its the same thing. They need one with a bigger screen.

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Boring... its the same thing. They need one with a bigger screen.
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+1.
all phones seem small compared to my HD2

erm.. hardware is good
finally they have added multi-tasking phew
but i hate the interface because if you have loads of apps you have to scroll through loads of pages just to get to an app they haven't done anything about that.
but over all a better iphone to the last
still could be improved alot!

New screen is nice, but its not AMOLED and the resolution is rather pointless when its still a puny 3.5 inches, i call fail on that. The resolution is a way to get around a scaling problem, not a 'feature' in itself. 720P is also nice, but hardly unique, 5MP cam is adequate. OS 4 is meh and has been since it was announced, so im not tempted away, its still a restricted, limited platform controlled by prudish control freaks. The hardware just doesnt creak quite so much (for the time being). A few months later we will see 720P screens and dual core CPUs on devices that cost less all with a better, more open OS.

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New screen is nice, but its not AMOLED and the resolution is rather pointless when its still a puny 3.5 inches, i call fail on that. The resolution is a way to get around a scaling problem, not a 'feature' in itself. 720P is also nice, but hardly unique, 5MP cam is adequate. OS 4 is meh and has been since it was announced, so im not tempted away, its still a restricted, limited platform controlled by prudish control freaks. The hardware just doesnt creak quite so much (for the time being). A few months later we will see 720P screens and dual core CPUs on devices that cost less all with a better, more open OS.
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Agreed.
Its going to take allot to tempt me away from my HD2 (allot more from apple ) I'd think about the EVO 4g if it was in the UK.
But apple has never done it for me...
Overall better job though

Another useless i...e thread
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Boring... its the same thing. They need one with a bigger screen.
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lonelykatana said:
+1.
all phones seem small compared to my HD2
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Here we go again
Agree with all above comments and forthcoming on same line

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Above all its just not good enough, it wont be a hardware leader for very long. Yes its faster than any current HTC and the screen is higher res, but 3.5 inches is not good enough its that simple. Id take 800x480 at 4.3 (or 5) over 960x640 at 3.5 inches ANY day. You have to get pretty close to see the pixels on any current WVGA screen, even the 5 inch Dell Streak.

iphone 4...
yawn...
wake me up when it innovates...

who effing cares....
EVO Ftw!!!!!!!!!!

rovex said:
Above all its just not good enough, it wont be a hardware leader for very long. Yes its faster than any current HTC and the screen is higher res, but 3.5 inches is not good enough its that simple. Id take 800x480 at 4.3 (or 5) over 960x640 at 3.5 inches ANY day. You have to get pretty close to see the pixels on any current WVGA screen, even the 5 inch Dell Streak.
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A 5" screen does not a cell phone make, you might as well just call it a tablet pc with phone capabilities. If it can't fit in my pocket then it is useless to me, external cell phone holders are for narcissistic douchbags.

the screen res is one of its high points along with front facing camera but fails with teh small screen and the wifi only videochat.

Nanan00 said:
A 5" screen does not a cell phone make, you might as well just call it a tablet pc with phone capabilities. If it can't fit in my pocket then it is useless to me, external cell phone holders are for narcissistic douchbags.
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The Dell streak does fit in a pocket. I have no problems with it at all. Its just like a thinner HD2 really.

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iphone 4...
yawn...
wake me up when it innovates...
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I agree completely. It's like, it's not anything special at all anymore, now that I know Jobs is a complete tool and lies to the public ("I don't like Flash because it's not open, but here, check out HTML5 in my closed browser").
Same size and weight basically. They say it's thinner, but why are people clamming for thinner phones? That's going to crack!!!!!
720p video? I doubt the quality of this stands up to true 720p video and I dare someone to prove me wrong. I have 720p video on my Olympus EPL1 and I'm sure it blows that mini camera's quality out of the water.
Front-facing camera? Not only do none of the current US networks support this, but do you really think this will take off? Yeah webcams sure did and are everywhere now. As it is now, people using cell phones in my general vicinity are already complete tools, now video calling near me will make them into 150% douchebags.
YAWN is right

My idea of a perfect phone would be the iPhone 4's hardware with Android as software... Don't hate me for saying this, but Apple products truly look high-end.

androidlicious said:
My idea of a perfect phone would be the iPhone 4's hardware with Android as software... Don't hate me for saying this, but Apple products truly look high-end.
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I dont hate you for it, i just think you are completely wrong. I hate Apple 'Style'. For me the HD2 is still the best looking device on the market. Its just wonderful to look at, on or off.

256mb of RAM on board a 1Ghz processor? That's like having a Ferrari with a pinto suspension...lol. That and the small screen; Psuedo Hi-Def on a tiny, non-AMOLED screen? I'm just not feeling Apple, never have, and it would take some real innovation to convert me (i.e. never).
Just my 2 cents...
~Jasecloud4

Ive had a phone with >300DPI before, the Nokia N90. It was really nice and looked odd because of the super pixels density, but ultimately a 2.1 inch screen only goes so far. Its the same here. 3.5 is just too small to make the resolution worth it.

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256mb of ram on board a 1ghz processor? That's like having a ferrari with a pinto suspension...lol
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haha awesome!

[Q] HTC HD7 vs Samsung Omnia

Has anyone had a chance to compare these models ?

I guess not since Omnia 7 is not out yet...
one thing is for sure tho, you better not compare the displays...
Samsung's Super AMOLED smokes those SDLC displays HTC is using...
so an HTC owner should not embarass himself and compare the screen to the OLED technology of Samsung.

In my opinion, HD7 wins... it has much more quality, at least in my eyes... Also the
HD7 speakers won't be muffled, the Omnia has the speakers on the back... just saying

The biggest advantage of the Omnia 7 is definitely its AMOLED screen. The blackest black you´ve ever seen for sure, but also the most unnatural colors. Kind of fancy and funny, but any professional will confirm these facts to you.
The biggest disadvantage of the Omnia 7 is definitely that it´s made by Samsung.
Never ever again I´ll buy anything made by them. Poor customer service/support is only the first name.
The S-LCD of the HD7 is not as bad as many try to tell you, the picture quality is far more natural than the crazy colors of AMOLED screens.
For me personally, HD7 is the winner. HD2 already put Samsung far behind, they tried a little to cope with Omnia 7, but the failed, one more time.

tictac0566 said:
The biggest advantage of the Omnia 7 is definitely its AMOLED screen. The blackest black you´ve ever seen for sure, but also the most unnatural colors. Kind of fancy and funny, but any professional will confirm these facts to you.
The biggest disadvantage of the Omnia 7 is definitely that it´s made by Samsung.
Never ever again I´ll buy anything made by them. Poor customer service/support is only the first name.
The S-LCD of the HD7 is not as bad as many try to tell you, the picture quality is far more natural than the crazy colors of AMOLED screens.
For me personally, HD7 is the winner. HD2 already put Samsung far behind, they tried a little to cope with Omnia 7, but the failed, one more time.
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HD7 doesn't use SLCD btw. The Mozart does, and when you compare the 2, the Mozarts SLCD clearly shows its advantage.

Cruzer1 said:
HD7 doesn't use SLCD btw. The Mozart does, and when you compare the 2, the Mozarts SLCD clearly shows its advantage.
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...my bad... sorry. And thanks for the correction!
The end result for me is this then: HTC Mozart instead of Omnia 7...

Incredible S or Desire HD?

Hi,
So i planned to buy HTC Desire HD until yesterday came HTC Incredible S to my local shop. And im quite surprised, because Incredible S is cheaper than Desire HD - Desire HD costs 503 euros while Incredible S costs 442 euros. So now im wondering... perhaps i should go straight to Incredible S? But the things i want are Big screen, because im planning to read web, pdfs and stuff like that. I wouldnt buy an expensive phone if it has some freezing or rebooting problem (thats why i skipped original Desire), so as i know Desire HD is reliable, stable, fast and doesnt have any problems regarding that. So Incredible S should be just like Desire HD in stability. Some people are complaining of bad Desire HD battery life, and it seems like Incredible S has bigger battery and smaller screen, so battery life on Incredible S should be better, altough i dont worry too much, if battery would last 24 hours with medium usage thats more than enough. So im asking you Incredible S owners - what problems does this phone have (if it does have them at all), and how well it does work? I mean is it snappy and stable like Desire HD? Also, as i said i want big screen, but if the difference isnt that big (4.3 vs 4.0 inch) in reality, i would be totally satisfied with Incredible S screen. I mean how much would 4.3 inch display compared to 4.0 inch improve the web browsing, pdf documents reading experience? If the difference isnt very significant i wouldnt care. Also how about build quality? Desire HD has metal on his back, while Incredible S has rubberised plastic? Does it squeak? You know, metal is always nice it makes phone a bit stronger, but more or less the phone will sit in its case. So overall which one you would recommend me?
Thanks for answers

There are plenty of user reviews in this forum, but in short (and IMHO):
- IS has much better quality screen, albeit slightly smaller (not small enough to make a differance)
- Battery life is much better
- IS has same SOC as the DHD so performance is the same
- Build quality is good. Stable, sturdy and tight

l0st.prophet said:
There are plenty of user reviews in this forum, but in short (and IMHO):
- IS has much better quality screen, albeit slightly smaller (not small enough to make a differance)
- Battery life is much better
- IS has same SOC as the DHD so performance is the same
- Build quality is good. Stable, sturdy and tight
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Thanks, i already readed this forum. But how about hang ups or reboots or something like that? Also how about support? Im almost sure that this phone wont get as much as attention as Desire HD has, altough this is gonna be my first android smartphone, so im not planning to root that phone in near future (too afraid), but still that would be cool if Incredible S would be rooted and Cyanongen mod would be ported to Incredible S, because only HTC Sense and stock android look useful to me, i cant stand all other ui overlays like touchwiz or motoblur, theyre incomplete, laggy and ugly. So anyway as i see you recommend me to go to Incredible S. Well perhaps i will but i need more opinions and replies first, you know i dont want to buy something what i will be regreting for two years.

l0st.prophet said:
There are plenty of user reviews in this forum, but in short (and IMHO):
- IS has much better quality screen, albeit slightly smaller (not small enough to make a differance)
- Battery life is much better
- IS has same SOC as the DHD so performance is the same
- Build quality is good. Stable, sturdy and tight
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i fully agree with you, in all points.
i am was using myself the glacier, it's not stable at all, it's heavy, not liked it at all. now i am using the vivo, i am really happy with it, just the shape of the back cover looks strange for me, the only thing i don't like
for my opinion, this phone will become a best seller !

If it in a rush: certainly buy the IS. If u have some time 2 spare u can wait for the dual cores, which should be a better choice.
Just because the IS is newer, it has some better balanced hardware. A lot of people feel the same way about it. Upgrade is a waste of money, new its definitely worth it. But if you can wait a month or 3 u probably should go for a dual core. For the next 2 year a lot will change in Android and much better support dual cores.
And about your questions: Nvr had any problems, sometimes its a bit baggy, but its over in a second or so. The back doesn't squeak.

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Well im also thinking so, but i found one thing, Desire HD shoots better videos i mean fps than Incredible S, why is that so?
Desire HD video sample : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNtZSgcaToY
Incredible S video sample : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJHfX5j7Es
The difference is pretty obvious.
About dual cores well i dont see any reason to buy one of them. Why? The current 1 ghz android smarthphones are very fast and smooth theres almost no area for perfomance improvements, so definitely dual cores is not worth a wait. The only advantage i see is gaming, but im not a gamer so i dont care. Also it should improve multitasking but multitasking in android is already pretty smart and optimized for single core cpus.

Nece228 said:
Hi,
So i planned to buy HTC Desire HD until yesterday came HTC Incredible S to my local shop. And im quite surprised, because Incredible S is cheaper than Desire HD - Desire HD costs 503 euros while Incredible S costs 442 euros. So now im wondering... perhaps i should go straight to Incredible S? But the things i want are Big screen, because im planning to read web, pdfs and stuff like that. I wouldnt buy an expensive phone if it has some freezing or rebooting problem (thats why i skipped original Desire), so as i know Desire HD is reliable, stable, fast and doesnt have any problems regarding that. So Incredible S should be just like Desire HD in stability. Some people are complaining of bad Desire HD battery life, and it seems like Incredible S has bigger battery and smaller screen, so battery life on Incredible S should be better, altough i dont worry too much, if battery would last 24 hours with medium usage thats more than enough. So im asking you Incredible S owners - what problems does this phone have (if it does have them at all), and how well it does work? I mean is it snappy and stable like Desire HD? Also, as i said i want big screen, but if the difference isnt that big (4.3 vs 4.0 inch) in reality, i would be totally satisfied with Incredible S screen. I mean how much would 4.3 inch display compared to 4.0 inch improve the web browsing, pdf documents reading experience? If the difference isnt very significant i wouldnt care. Also how about build quality? Desire HD has metal on his back, while Incredible S has rubberised plastic? Does it squeak? You know, metal is always nice it makes phone a bit stronger, but more or less the phone will sit in its case. So overall which one you would recommend me?
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I think IS will be popular soon.In fact,it's becoming popular.IS is better than DHD,but it also some problem.some1 said he takes photo red,and he can hear his own voice when he made call.It can't be rooted yet.

I myself too had the same problem with ts, but I went with IS cuz of the battery life
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Nece228 said:
Thanks for opinions.
Well im also thinking so, but i found one thing, Desire HD shoots better videos i mean fps than Incredible S, why is that so?
Desire HD video sample : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNtZSgcaToY
Incredible S video sample : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GJHfX5j7Es
The difference is pretty obvious.
About dual cores well i dont see any reason to buy one of them. Why? The current 1 ghz android smarthphones are very fast and smooth theres almost no area for perfomance improvements, so definitely dual cores is not worth a wait. The only advantage i see is gaming, but im not a gamer so i dont care. Also it should improve multitasking but multitasking in android is already pretty smart and optimized for single core cpus.
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Shooting videos should be the same considering camera hardware is the same. The video from the Desire HD in the youtube video appeared to be better but I think that had more to do with location and lighting. If you record the same location the video should be identical.

NardVa said:
Shooting videos should be the same considering camera hardware is the same. The video from the Desire HD in the youtube video appeared to be better but I think that had more to do with location and lighting. If you record the same location the video should be identical.
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I saw other videos of incredible s and even those with good light conditions are still worse than desire hd's.

I had a DHD for 2 weeks, and its certainly not a bad phone. But when i was offered to svop the DHD for a IncS, i acceptede it right away, and i havn't regrettede it for one second.
The IncS has much better screen and build quality.
Just waiting for it to bee rooted ;-)

the 2 are good

Thanks again for opinions.
Altough it shouldnt have random reboot or freezing problem, theres thread in here in which quite a few people complain that it restarts itself. Do you have same problem?

Nece228 said:
Thanks again for opinions.
Altough it shouldnt have random reboot or freezing problem, theres thread in here in which quite a few people complain that it restarts itself. Do you have same problem?
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Never - and my IncS it filled up with widgest and 3 part software.

jkolner said:
Never - and my IncS it filled up with widgest and 3 part software.
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Thanks,
Ill probably go to Incredible S now. But i made a deal with shop, so when Desire HD and Incredible S arrives ill have chance to use them both and choose one in the shop.

Better quality life beats hands down rest of Desire family. That is big plus to Incredible S.

Ballistic_78 said:
Better quality life beats hands down rest of Desire family. That is big plus to Incredible S.
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you wanted to say "battery life", didn't you? ;-)

DHD being the Flagship device at the time of release, i would have expected the cost of it would hold for quite some time, even thought the newer IS is out now, it's not quite revolutionary enough to be yet another flagship device at this stage.
But having one on my hand now and having played with my friend's DHD, you are getting a pretty similar device for a bit less money to be honest.
I would definately say go for the IS unless you find a good deal on the DHD.

I had also htc desire hd, it was a good phone but its build quality was not so nice especially the Sim card cover was so badly build, it is so rough and always keep the gap between aluminium part of the phone. so it looked very ugly like a broken phone, and htc knows very well about this issue and many users are using their warranty for this sim card cover.
I prefer htc incredible s over dersire hd on two factors.
IS screen resolution is much better than desire hd. SLCD IS BETTER THAN LCD especially when you are using your phone outside.
IS build quality is also impressive, no doubt it has rubbery back but looks great in hand and no awkward issue like desire hd( Sim cover)
but if you consider only software, then both are same.

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IS screen resolution is much better than desire hd. SLCD IS BETTER THAN LCD especially when you are using your phone outside.
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Just to clarify, the resolution of both devices is exactly the same. The IS looks sharper and clear because the pixel density is higher, because it is physically smaller. But the end result is it looks crisper, and also the brightness of SLCD is much improved as well

HD7S - 1700mAh battery

Well right now my Samsung Captivate is my phone. I hate it to death. I find Android way too buggy. I don't like Apples hardware (small screen, so boxy) and the iOS looks too busy to me. Blackberry doesn't have enough apps and Palm (I'm sorry, HP), well, lets just leave them out of this.
So that leaves Windows Phone. I've been researching it for awhile, and being a graphic designer, I really love how the os looks and how it functions. I am on AT&T, and have heard good things about the HD7. The HD7S for AT&T brings the better screen, and I've also heard the camera is improved (although still 5MP.)
However....I've heard lots of horror stories about battery life. I'm not sure if NoDo improved it at all, that would also be nice to find out. Googling it has been inconclusive. The HD7S comes with the same 1230mAh battery, so I'm wondering if anyone has any experience specially with the HD7 and this (or a similar) 1700mAh battery? Any help, thoughts, comments will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
edit: Apparently since I'm new I can't post links. But anyways, just type in "1700mah battery hd7" on ebay, and it should come up, from Great Britain.

My suggestion would be to purchase it, and test it for a days against the original, and then post your results back here.
Although it will fit without the need for a back cover, I highly doubt it has a charge life of 1700mAh! But im willing to be proved wrong if you want to buy and test for the community...

He doesn't own the phone yet though he says he's thinking of getting it. Adam you're right to be a bit concerned about the 1230 battery. If you use the phone heavily it will struggle to last the day. But if you check Amazon the reviews day the 1500 batteries are in fact worse coz they're not as good quality as OEM HTC. I'd recommend yo leave the hd7 and look at the Samsung omnia 7 I wish id done this
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My suggestion would be to purchase it, and test it for a days against the original, and then post your results back here.
Although it will fit without the need for a back cover, I highly doubt it has a charge life of 1700mAh! But im willing to be proved wrong if you want to buy and test for the community...
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Yea, probably a good idea. I've heard some people are fine with the battery life.
He doesn't own the phone yet though he says he's thinking of getting it. Adam you're right to be a bit concerned about the 1230 battery. If you use the phone heavily it will struggle to last the day. But if you check Amazon the reviews day the 1500 batteries are in fact worse coz they're not as good quality as OEM HTC. I'd recommend you leave the hd7 and look at the Samsung omnia 7 I wish id done this
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Hmm. That phone does look great. And for an unlocked price it's quite affordable. I also like that it has a super AMOLED screen. That's what my captivate has, and it's the best screen I've ever seen on a mobile device (besides the iPhone 4.) The blacks just blend into the bezel, the colors are vibrant, and the viewing angles are fantastic. Will this phone fully work with AT&T 3G? (7.2MBP). If it does, I think it just replaced the HD7 for Windows Phone candidate.
Also, I'm not going to lie, I'm slightly starting to have second thoughts. Although I love everything about the Windows Phone OS, I'm still slightly worried about the extreme lack of apps on the marketplace. What do you guys think? Are there apps for most things, or do you feel like theres a lot missing still? And is there any indication as to a developer pick-up on for Windows Phone?

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Also, I'm not going to lie, I'm slightly starting to have second thoughts. Although I love everything about the Windows Phone OS, I'm still slightly worried about the extreme lack of apps on the marketplace. What do you guys think? Are there apps for most things, or do you feel like theres a lot missing still? And is there any indication as to a developer pick-up on for Windows Phone?
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Completely understand that. When I got my HD7 I was amazed by the OS, and the UI, but after a couple of months it does wear off and then you care more about the apps which are lacking. Some blow the iPhone/Android versions away like IMDB and Facebook. But then there's no Amazon app in the UK yet and the eBay app is a bit iffy. Games are another problem, there's the odd good indie gaming coming through like NinjaBoy and Mars Runner, but not many others. Rest of the games are Microsoft's xbox-branded titles but they are usually very overpriced.
The reason I'd recommend the Samsung is the great screen like you say, and the touch screen will hopefully be better than the HD7 which isn't perfect.

adamvk1 said:
Yea, probably a good idea. I've heard some people are fine with the battery life.
Hmm. That phone does look great. And for an unlocked price it's quite affordable. I also like that it has a super AMOLED screen. That's what my captivate has, and it's the best screen I've ever seen on a mobile device (besides the iPhone 4.) The blacks just blend into the bezel, the colors are vibrant, and the viewing angles are fantastic. Will this phone fully work with AT&T 3G? (7.2MBP). If it does, I think it just replaced the HD7 for Windows Phone candidate.
Also, I'm not going to lie, I'm slightly starting to have second thoughts. Although I love everything about the Windows Phone OS, I'm still slightly worried about the extreme lack of apps on the marketplace. What do you guys think? Are there apps for most things, or do you feel like theres a lot missing still? And is there any indication as to a developer pick-up on for Windows Phone?
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The HD7S doesnt have a SAMOLED screen... it just has a superlcd screen... lot different.

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Completely understand that. When I got my HD7 I was amazed by the OS, and the UI, but after a couple of months it does wear off and then you care more about the apps which are lacking. Some blow the iPhone/Android versions away like IMDB and Facebook. But then there's no Amazon app in the UK yet and the eBay app is a bit iffy. Games are another problem, there's the odd good indie gaming coming through like NinjaBoy and Mars Runner, but not many others. Rest of the games are Microsoft's xbox-branded titles but they are usually very overpriced.
The reason I'd recommend the Samsung is the great screen like you say, and the touch screen will hopefully be better than the HD7 which isn't perfect.
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Well, I was playing with the HD7 today in the Microsoft Store, and I do really like the phone. Plus when I just read an article by Computer World saying:
Android will dominate global smartphone operating system sales over the next four years, while Windows Phone-based Nokia devices will displace other platforms to surge to second place in 2015, Gartner said in a forecast issued Thursday.
The latest Gartner forecast also shows the Apple's iPhone OS will drop to third behind the Windows Phone software in 2015, while Research in Motion's will dip to the fourth spot that year. IDC has forecast the same overall 2015 rankings.
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But Windows Phone's move into second place by 2015 is the biggest change from prior forecasts. "Gartner has revised its forecast of Windows Phone's market share upward, solely by virtue of Microsoft's alliance with Nokia," Gartner said in a statement.
Gartner analyst Roberta Cozza explained the Windows Phone growth, noting that Nokia will be able to sell Windows Phones at lower prices than many smartphones sold today and to sell them globally through an extensive sales channel.
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So these make me feel more confident that more apps are going to be coming. Also, apparently the Omnia 7 is the Samsung Focus in the US, and the Focus looks butt ugly in my opinion, so I'm gonna stick with the HD7S I think. I could import it from the UK, but then it would be more expensive since it wouldn't be on contract.

adamvk1 said:
So these make me feel more confident that more apps are going to be coming. Also, apparently the Omnia 7 is the Samsung Focus in the US, and the Focus looks butt ugly in my opinion, so I'm gonna stick with the HD7S I think. I could import it from the UK, but then it would be more expensive since it wouldn't be on contract.
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I'm pretty sure the cases are different and the Omnia feels a lot more expensive to hold in the hand, if that helps at all.
I'm annoyed with my HD7 as I'm considering selling it, but the sharp edge at the bottom has some chips in it even though I've looked after it. That's gonna affect trade in value and it's only a few months old. Think it will always happen due to the design of the phone.

BlitterTwisted said:
I'm pretty sure the cases are different and the Omnia feels a lot more expensive to hold in the hand, if that helps at all.
I'm annoyed with my HD7 as I'm considering selling it, but the sharp edge at the bottom has some chips in it even though I've looked after it. That's gonna affect trade in value and it's only a few months old. Think it will always happen due to the design of the phone.
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What do you mean by it had chips in it because of the sharp edges?

adamvk1 said:
What do you mean by it had chips in it because of the sharp edges?
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Look at a picture of the HD7 and you'll see the top and bottom have grills surrounded by a sharp edge of metal. This is painted, so it chips easily - well it does on my phone anyway.
Knowing this I wish I'd put my phone in a case but my iPhone wasn't in a case and held up much better.

I do not believe that the Omnia 7 will work in the US at all. I may be wrong on this but I know that it will not work here in Canada at all.
The Hardware, etc of the Samsung Focus is indeed the same as the Omnia 7 and the one plus about the Focus is that it has an external sd card slot to expand memory where the Omnia 7 does not however... I agree... The Focus is one UGLY phone!!!
I have an HD7 with regular screen and yes... After having my Galaxy S and my Nexus S with SAMOLED screens, you can definitely tell the difference in color, brightness, etc but it is really NOT all that BAD so at this time I would recommend the HD7S with the S-LCD screen from ATT and I think you will be happy.
PS... Buy me one with the S-LCD screen and ship it to me here in Canada... LOL!!!

yiannisthegreek said:
I do not believe that the Omnia 7 will work in the US at all. I may be wrong on this but I know that it will not work here in Canada at all.
The Hardware, etc of the Samsung Focus is indeed the same as the Omnia 7 and the one plus about the Focus is that it has an external sd card slot to expand memory where the Omnia 7 does not however... I agree... The Focus is one UGLY phone!!!
I have an HD7 with regular screen and yes... After having my Galaxy S and my Nexus S with SAMOLED screens, you can definitely tell the difference in color, brightness, etc but it is really NOT all that BAD so at this time I would recommend the HD7S with the S-LCD screen from ATT and I think you will be happy.
PS... Buy me one with the S-LCD screen and ship it to me here in Canada... LOL!!!
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Haha yea, that's the plan. (Not shipping it to Canada though ) It comes out June 5, but I'm gonna wait until June 6 to buy it since Apple is having their conference, and I want to see what the the new iPhone will have to offer.

Would you agree that the HTC Titan is the HD7 replacement?

Seen a number of websites suggest its a direct replacement. Is it do you think or is it just because they are both large screened WP7 devices made by HTC? As the HD7 is getting Mango anyway for owners of this device I am not sure how much of an upgrade for them the Titan is.

Yeah I would say it is the direct replacement. Looking at the specs you get:
- 0.5 inch bigger screen, but no improvement in resolution
- 1.5ghz processor vs 1ghz
- double the battery life
- Point 'n' Shoot quality camera (according to the marketing)
What I really wanted though was an AMOLED screen.
I'll certainly check it out in the shop and compare directly to the HD7.

I would say its replacement for it, but I dont think its worth an upgrade yet, I will wait to see what new phones come out afterward.
Besides I cant go from a 32gb HD7 to a 16GB Titan

I will wait for the Nokia phones to come out next year though
as Nokia does better hardware so I believe
for me the main reason would be the camera as 5MP in the HD7 is not up for me, so hoping to bump it up either 8mp or 12mp
Also all future WP7 will have a front facing camera and skype coming soon as well so that's something to consider.
VERDICT : Titan is a good UPDATE not an UPGRADE I would say
I guess the best bet would be to wait for next year and see what NOKIA really brings to the table as the HD7 will be just fine untill then as it really rocks MANGO, I don't feel the need to change it yet

I thought so, but what has me thinking is that it still hasnt been anounced for TMO USA yet.... and according to this LINK there is gonna be a device named HTC Bresson running Windows Phone released and no mention of Eternity/Titan...
Im curious to see what this "Bresson" could turn out to be... (plus 4.7 is streching it when it comes to size IMO expecially since WP7 has such a minimilistic UI, so such a big screen is unnecessary)

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Yeah I would say it is the direct replacement. Looking at the specs you get:
- 0.5 inch bigger screen, but no improvement in resolution
- 1.5ghz processor vs 1ghz
- double the battery life
- Point 'n' Shoot quality camera (according to the marketing)
What I really wanted though was an AMOLED screen.
I'll certainly check it out in the shop and compare directly to the HD7.
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The fact that they haven't increased the resolution on such a large screen seems something of a poor move, as I would think it would lead to a pretty grainy screen?

To me the Titan will be the next device for me as soon as it comes out in the UK, the only issue I have is that I have got used to having the stand on the back for watching films on the train, I will miss not having that.

You guys forgot to mention that this thing has a FFC as well. This would be a must have for me but all indications are that it is going to AT&T and that us folks at T-Mobile are getting the lesser HTC Omega.

JamesDax said:
You guys forgot to mention that this thing has a FFC as well. This would be a must have for me but all indications are that it is going to AT&T and that us folks at T-Mobile are getting the lesser HTC Omega.
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I thought you weren't getting this device in the US but a different one instead?

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I thought you weren't getting this device in the US but a different one instead?
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Wait.. What??

It's worth the wait, Titan is good but I would rather go with an amoled screen. Hope that Samsung will bring one like the SGS2 has, who knows or maybe I'll wait for a nokia one, atleast I am sure they will be using carl zeis optics on their cams.

Yeah, I'm hoping that the rumored 4.5in Samsung will come to T-Mobile since it looks like we won't be getting the Titan. Anyway, why haven't we heard anything from Samsung about thier new WP7 devices??

JamesDax said:
Yeah, I'm hoping that the rumored 4.5in Samsung will come to T-Mobile since it looks like we won't be getting the Titan. Anyway, why haven't we heard anything from Samsung about thier new WP7 devices??
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According to this article, at least as far as the European market is concerned, they are only releasing one mid-range WP7 device.
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2011/birulki-133-en.shtml#4
There is no mention if the North American market will do any better. So unless Nokia produce something interesting my attention is focussed on the Titan at the moment.

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The fact that they haven't increased the resolution on such a large screen seems something of a poor move, as I would think it would lead to a pretty grainy screen?
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Apparently the resolution is down to the OS limitations. The screen of the Titan is "only" 1 cm bigger in the diagonal, and will not affect the resolution of the screen for you to notice.

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Apparently the resolution is down to the OS limitations. The screen of the Titan is "only" 1 cm bigger in the diagonal, and will not affect the resolution of the screen for you to notice.
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But I would argue that 4.3" inch screens are right at the limit for this resolution, let alone going that bit bigger. It's why we are seeing increasing numbers of devices with screens around this size or slightly bigger using a higher resolution than this.