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Hello Admins / Mods,
I opend this thread to see if we can get an update on the situation that has been going on for the past 24 hours with regard to the sharing issue. Many of the chefs have decided to discontinue their ROM development work due to this.
Myself along with a lot of other HD users (I hope) are very eager to know when things would get back to normal. I kept visiting this section frequently to see if there is any new information on this situation, but unfortunately there isn't any.
So, please let us know if ROM development for Blackstone is going to continue or did the cooks really leave XDA. If they did leave as they have mentioned, it a huge loss to this community and I think the Admins and the Mods must do what ever it takes to convinience them to share their work within XDA.
Due to the action of a few individuals... this great community should not suffer.
Please let us know the status.
Davideuck / kwbr / Laurentius26 / HelloNasty / pzucchel / robertus3d / texture / panosha / pzucchel / duttythroy (sorry if I missed someone) - You are all a GREAT asset to this community and we love your work and you are the reason we love our devices even more.
Please resolve your differences and I hope things get back to being normal and exiting.
i am a 100% with you!
Firstly, I am sympathetic with the rest of the staff, but I will not stop, I like to do
Roms, investigate, but never stop!
Because I like!! Never received any donation in blackstone! But life continues ... Spend large hours a day!!!
Thanks to everyone who like my job!
Im a mod on a car site based in the UK. We had a situation where a member was ripping off other members via our 'for sale' section. We investigated and kept our member informed. It doesnt take much and im disappointed it hasn't happened here.
Frankly if this site doesn't respond very soon, in a satisfactory way (I.E not in an aggressive or arrogant way), then its not the sort of place i want to be. It will certainly reflect badly on the WM community, it may make me regret my decision to move over from Symbian. Indeed the quality of the community often guides my choices in automotive and AV.
Im not saying the cookers owe us anything (im happy with my ROM) and i support them if they have been wronged, but after investing money in my Blackstone id like to know my options.
I'm one of "Autocensored" cookers and only thing I can say is:
Yesterday someone paid a user to avoid sharing of new topaz rom... for this me, DavideUck, Infido and others had protested stopping our development until the sharing priority will be guarantee...
EDIT: I forgot to say that Mods are hepling us to much to understand what's happened and really soon the truth will overcome
Greets
francesco
carburano said:
I'm one of "Autocensored" cookers and only thing I can say is:
Yesterday someone paid a user to avoid sharing of new topaz rom... for this me, DavideUck, Infido and others had protested stopping our development until the sharing priority will be guarantee...
EDIT: I forgot to say that Mods are hepling us to much to understand what's happened and really soon the truth will overcome
Greets
francesco
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Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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I'm sure it will get back to normal pretty soon.....
Personally I am very greatly to all cooks and mods for there hard work and I always donate to the cook of which ROM I choose.
It will be a sad day to lose any cooks due to these unfortunate circumstances.
I look forward to everything going back to normal, and hopefully people will learn that this site is for the cummnity!!!
VizagDude said:
Hello Admins / Mods,
I opend this thread to see if we can get an update on the situation that has been going on for the past 24 hours with regard to the sharing issue. Many of the chefs have decided to discontinue their ROM development work due to this.
Myself along with a lot of other HD users (I hope) are very eager to know when things would get back to normal. I kept visiting this section frequently to see if there is any new information on this situation, but unfortunately there isn't any.
So, please let us know if ROM development for Blackstone is going to continue or did the cooks really leave XDA. If they did leave as they have mentioned, it a huge loss to this community and I think the Admins and the Mods must do what ever it takes to convinience them to share their work within XDA.
Due to the action of a few individuals... this great community should not suffer.
Please let us know the status.
Davideuck / kwbr / Laurentius26 / HelloNasty / pzucchel / robertus3d / texture / panosha / duttythroy (sorry if I missed someone) - You are all a GREAT asset to this community and we love your work and you are the reason we love our devices even more.
Please resolve your differences and I hope things get back to being normal and exiting.
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Agree.
Lets wait for some feedback.
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Agree.
Lets wait for some feedback.
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yes i hobe it will come
knudsen81 said:
yes i hobe it will come
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Lets hope so.
But from the look of other threads like this one this one will soon close.
speed200 said:
Lets hope so.
But from the look of other threads like this one this one will soon close.
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LOL... Close is the more easy!!!!
hellonasty said:
Firstly, I am sympathetic with the rest of the staff, but I will not stop, I like to do
Roms, investigate, but never stop!
Because I like!! Never received any donation in blackstone! But life continues ... Spend large hours a day!!!
Thanks to everyone who like my job!
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When I read this message:
Bevestigingsnummer: 5D325579TR1962439, donated a few minutes ago .
The customized ROM from you is really great! Life goes on, let's go for the community.
I hope that the solution will coming soon...
drexxie said:
When I read this message:
Bevestigingsnummer: 5D325579TR1962439, donated a few minutes ago .
The customized ROM from you is really great! Life goes on, let's go for the community.
I hope that the solution will coming soon...
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You have understand all my friend!
drexxie said:
When I read this message:
Bevestigingsnummer: 5D325579TR1962439, donated a few minutes ago .
The customized ROM from you is really great! Life goes on, let's go for the community.
I hope that the solution will coming soon...
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Thanks!!!!
I put you in my Big list!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482341
This clearly is a most unfortunate situation and I can understand how many of the cooks, mods and members alike are becoming upset. This said, can I appeal to those same people not to bring this bad feeling into the rom threads themselves. Despite the mods repeatedly saying they will sort out the situation as quickly as possible, certain people continue to bombard the threads with aggressive accusations which cannot serve any purpose. I myself was accused of taking back handers last night because I tried to get the thread back on topic! I mean really! I wouldn't mind but I've not seen a penny
The rom threads should be for help and bug reports and that alone! Threads such as this one are the perfect opportunity to raise other issues.
The saddest thing about this is some of the cooks who are upset are inadvertently doing what they are accusing others of in not sharing, by discontinuing their work here.
In the year I've been a member here, I've downloaded and enjoyed numerous roms from many of the cooks here and I've enjoyed being part of a great community. It breaks my heart to see that same community crumbling before my eyes
C'mon guys, can we not try to work through this like the adults we are and get back to being the best god damn HTC forum on the planet?
Rich
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The rom threads should be for help and bug reports and that alone! Threads such as this one are the perfect opportunity to raise other issues.
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Exactly
ClownShoes said:
The saddest thing about this is some of the cooks who are upset are inadvertently doing what they are accusing others of in not sharing, by discontinuing their work here.
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Hmmm Even more exact
ClownShoes said:
C'mon guys, can we not try to work through this like the adults we are and get back to being the best god damn HTC forum on the planet?
Rich
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Exactly
Who has the right to demand on this community? This scenario seems so imature and childish.
Chiefs leave/move on, new ones will start thats how it goes, lets not let them hold XDA to ransom.
Surely we don't need martyrs on XDA?
Well here's something to make you all smile
The same member who last night accused me of being somehow involved in making money
lucarp78 said:
Mind your business, or maybe you're business involved?
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Has now got it into his head that I am Duttythroy because I was helping people in the thread
lucarp78 said:
what's your game?
I think that you aren't who seem be!
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ClownShoes said:
This is brilliant... Am I right in thinking you're accusing me of being Duttythroy?
Er no! What on earth would I gain from pretending to be another member?
Ha ha ha, you've made my day though
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lucarp78 said:
You said, not me.
This is sufficient for doubt, together at all your posts from when you register in xda.
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All joking aside, this is what I was talking about though. People are getting carried away now and it's starting to get in the way of people genuinely seeking help. Can I perhaps suggest to a politely worded PM sent out to all members, asking for a little patience and consideration at this time?
Rich
Can someone explain what is all this sharing issue all about?
I read many threads, but didn't understand the root of this matter.
Amir.
amir77a said:
Can someone explain what is all this sharing issue all about?
I read many threads, but didn't understand the root of this matter.
Amir.
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Ok, here is the story...
Dutty's V1.8 ROM was from the new HTC ROM from (Dimond2 or Touch Pro2). Other chefs were hoping that he would dump that ROM. But, Dutty said that he was not going to share this new HTC ROM (Topaz) since he promised his source that he would not.
After couple of days, a few chefs were suppose to come out with their next ROM versions with this Topaz ROM build. But then, suddenly, who ever was suppose to sare this ROM with these chefs, told them in PM that some one Paid him money not to share this new Topaz with the XDA chefs. So he decided not to.
Now the chefs who were waiting for this ROM dump, got really pissed and decided not to share their own work within XDA until the admins and the Mods of XDA make it clear that sharing made the core principle within the XDA community.
Facts:
- Dutty was the one only one who had this new HTC ROM and he decided not to share it with anyone else for his own reasons as he explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484867
- Someone "claims" got paid by someone else not to sare the new ROM with the chefs within XDA as per this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3373252&postcount=1842
- Most of the Blackstone chefs decided to Discontinue their curren work and/or leave the XDA community until stuff is shared by everyone here for the benifit of the community.
Peace OUT!
After reading this, another possibility is that Dutty too was payed not to share...
And maybe he is not the one who paid?
Has anyone made a froyo build for the cdma Hero in which everything is working? If not then why not the source has been out for awhile now so whats up peeps. Any links to all builds? ANY i said. And im not complaining just tired of searching through threads, and i have an EVO but i like my hero just the same.
Why haven't YOU made one yet?
I don't get people that make posts like this.
nope...good luck
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Has anyone made a froyo build for the cdma Hero in which everything is working? If not then why not the source has been out for awhile now so whats up peeps. Any links to all working builds?
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Wow. Really?
exactly..lol I mean if u really want one dont complain..go build it yourself.. or keep quiet. be patient like the rest of us. and go support darch for even trying to get a froyo build to us hero users!!
Be glad we still have a few devs around to keep us hero users going for awhile.. since most have jumped ship to the evo etc.... so show some support etc if not guess u could alway go get a evo,lol
Oh man guys, he's right... I mean, it's not like devs have been working hard on giving us FroYo already... they should listen to this guy!
Really though, OP... this has got to be one of the most ungrateful posts I've read yet. If Darch the rest could give us a fully working 2.2 right now, they would... They're working hard on it, and they provide these roms to us for FREE. And then you came in here and basically clapped your hands twice and said "chop chop!"
Just be patient, and maybe a bit more respectful.
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Has anyone made a froyo build for the cdma Hero in which everything is working? If not then why not the source has been out for awhile now so whats up peeps. Any links to all working builds?
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seriously?? you made a thread to ask this question..
1. we have a Q&A section, and this isn't it..
2. sense u are in this section, did it not occur to you to check the available ROM's for ur answer???
by the way, to the others that have commented.. i don't think this guy even knows theres a froyo version out at all.. i don't think hes tryna speed darch up or anything.. i just think he hasn't checked this forum for much of anything.
A huge part of it is that they aren't porting it - they're actually using the source files to build it for the Hero.
Darch and company are building the 2.2 rom from the ground up so there are issues being ironed out. The current 2.2 version is RC0 (Release Candidate Zero) aka its in beta meaning its open to download and use but please either help fix the bugs or at the very least report them. This is how we the users can help move collectively towards a bug free froyo release.
Wow negativity!!
I think some of you people missunderstand the point of this post. Its not to complain but to get some links all in one place for anyone who has built a Froyo for the hero. And to awnser the smartassed remark i havent built one because i dont know how. I am a mechanic and amateur computer builder.
Sorry for any confusion, just want one place for the links instead of needing to search through all the threads to find them.
bk718 said:
seriously?? you made a thread to ask this question..
1. we have a Q&A section, and this isn't it..
2. sense u are in this section, did it not occur to you to check the available ROM's for ur answer???
by the way, to the others that have commented.. i don't think this guy even knows theres a froyo version out at all.. i don't think hes tryna speed darch up or anything.. i just think he hasn't checked this forum for much of anything.
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This isnt Q&A its a place for LINKS to any Froyo builds. I repeat ANY builds.
Ok dude, I guess I see what you were TRYING to ask/say/organize, but you did it in a real Asshattery way.
What you should have said was "Please All Devs put your FroYo Links Here"
With a message that should have said "Due to the threads bouncing around the forum, sometimes it's kind of hard to see all the options so I figure we should have links to these threads in one spot and we could make this thread a sticky".
It's no secret these devs (even though I claim one rom, I am NOT a dev. I am a kitchen user) bust their ass and take pride in the work they have accomplished making these froyo builds with no monetary gain except that they can reap the fruits of their work in using their own builds.
I know if it were me then I would have jumped the gun and taken offense and honestly I am surprised that there were not a flood of flame posts here because of it.
http://darchroms.pocketdevelopers.com/cm/willeaturcat.zip
report issues and join in on the testing like we all are darchstar is almost there
what is that willeatyourcat.zip ? is that RC0 ?
RC1
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Okay, As of now Darch's 2.2 builds are in beta. That being said they are not be posted on xda by him (just guessing here) because if he did, THOUSANDS of people would post useless questions and turn the thread into a joke.
Be patient, and wait for a final to get posted.
Or, get on the IRC channel and help test the current builds.....
My 2 cents.
I think we should give darch some $$ or petition Google to do so OR (if you can) give him a secure job providing these generous updates!
What's the incentive otherwise? This isn't OUR work.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
who says "peeps" anymore or ever?
I do when I feel like typing peeps instead of 'persons I know'
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thatguythatdid said:
who says "peeps" anymore or ever?
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Ummm I say peeps every year around Easter, as in Marshmallow Peeps. YUMMMMM
For those of you that have been around these parts for a while, you may remember the State of Development updates that good ol' Gsleon3 used to update us with. These came for us at a time when development for the Vivid seemed to be at a standstill, and for those of you that were here, you remember why. For those of you who don't, let me catch you up a little (and I apologize for the bad feelings that this may drum up, but I don't want anything to get out of control again). So grab a beer and a snack, this may be a long one
It was about April, and development for the Holiday was still in its infancy. There were a few good ROMs being released, and generally, it was a good place to be. Then accusations of stealing other's work, accusations of corrupt moderators, and all around child-like behavior started, and it became the downfall of the Holiday forum at XDA. ROM threads started closing. Then came the bickering. Then the Devs left. Then the users began to play the blame game, and the "let me try to whine my way to what I want" game. All the best devs left and opened up shop in their own little corners of the internet (and I can't blame them one bit), and development for the device was no longer centralized. There were/are still AWESOME ROMs available for this device, just not on XDA. This always made me a little sad. As painful of a place as XDA (or any internet forum for that matter) can be at times, there's sooooo much good information crammed into one site that it has always been my one-stop shop, but that wasn't true any longer. I settled in, I found a home, but I kept a close eye on what else was happening across the interweb's Holiday community. I liked to keep my eye on one project specifically, synergy's CM10 project, because who wouldn't want JellyBean, right?
Now, a little more information for those of you who weren't around.. The original CM10 thread was opened at another site in July, where the project started. Syn put a lot of time and effort into it, but in the end, found it to be not worth his time to continue on a project he didn't see possible to ever be finished (mainly due to the ATT in-call mic issue and video issues), and again, who can blame him? He abandoned the project at the beginning of August. This is where mg picked the project up, and continued it with a few fixes himself, before somehow we caught the attention of h8rift. h8 has been awesome - cleaning up our trees, getting things in their proper home, and powering through anything that gets in his way It's so great to have him around.
Myself, up until October, had only ever had experience with things like making boot animations, icons, editing .xmls in .apks, and some slight .smali edits. Thanks to mg's excellent guide and a crapton of Googling, I learned out how to compile/build cm from source. Then I thought, "I wonder if I could do the same for other JB flavors?" So guess what? I tried, and it worked. Every single question I had along the way (with the exception of a few Ubuntu and git specific questions), were answered by a thread here at XDA. Cool, right?
I am very excited to see new ROMage out for this device...as I'm sure anyone who was here through the "Great Holiday Wars of 2012" would agree, I was pretty sure what we had was all we were ever going to see. Which again, would have been OK, cause there are some great ROMs out there, but I've never been the kind of dude to settle in on the same ROM for too long - that's why I came to XDA in the first place. Now as I'm sure everyone can see, through collaboration, this project is making HUGE progress! I cannot thank mg and h8 enough for keeping it going. This brings me to my last point...
I encourage everyone to participate, and offer suggestions, and share information - that is, after all, what a developer's forum should be about. The wealth of knowledge that's available at XDA is out of this world, but sometimes hiding deep within the threads, filled by off-topic chatter and users who have way to huge a sense of entitlement. Please always keep in mind that the things you're getting here are free. Hours upon hours upon hours of work go into these projects, just to be shared for very little asked in return. Wait, we ask for something in return? Yes - READ, SEARCH, and SEARCH AGAIN before posting. Like I said, there's already a wealth of knowledge here that's incomparable to other Android forums on the web, but yes, sometimes it can be trying to find that information. But it's not impossible. Also - keep an eye on the issues list. There are bugs. There will probably always be bugs. And as long as there are, they will continue to be squished to the best of our ability (though h8's ability is far beyond mine, so let's especially be nice to him )
In closing - PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not let this place become what it was before. So far I feel like the atmosphere around here has been a lot better, but I know how easy it can be for it to slip back to where it was. So be respectful, don't ask for ETAs, and be thankful for what we have - cause what we now have is a TON more options that we had before.
I remember the "Great Holiday Wars of 2012"... it was ugly, didn't even want to visit the site half the time. But things are looking up and I'm glad I didn't return my vivid thirty days after the release date like so many did.
homeslice976 said:
For those of you that have been around these parts for a while, you may remember the State of Development updates that good ol' Gsleon3 used to update us with. These came for us at a time when development for the Vivid seemed to be at a standstill, and for those of you that were here, you remember why. For those of you who don't, let me catch you up a little (and I apologize for the bad feelings that this may drum up, but I don't want anything to get out of control again). So grab a beer and a snack, this may be a long one
It was about April, and development for the Holiday was still in its infancy. There were a few good ROMs being released, and generally, it was a good place to be. Then accusations of stealing other's work, accusations of corrupt moderators, and all around child-like behavior started, and it became the downfall of the Holiday forum at XDA. ROM threads started closing. Then came the bickering. Then the Devs left. Then the users began to play the blame game, and the "let me try to whine my way to what I want" game. All the best devs left and opened up shop in their own little corners of the internet (and I can't blame them one bit), and development for the device was no longer centralized. There were/are still AWESOME ROMs available for this device, just not on XDA. This always made me a little sad. As painful of a place as XDA (or any internet forum for that matter) can be at times, there's sooooo much good information crammed into one site that it has always been my one-stop shop, but that wasn't true any longer. I settled in, I found a home, but I kept a close eye on what else was happening across the interweb's Holiday community. I liked to keep my eye on one project specifically, synergy's CM10 project, because who wouldn't want JellyBean, right?
Now, a little more information for those of you who weren't around.. The original CM10 thread was opened at another site in July, where the project started. Syn put a lot of time and effort into it, but in the end, found it to be not worth his time to continue on a project he didn't see possible to ever be finished (mainly due to the ATT in-call mic issue and video issues), and again, who can blame him? He abandoned the project at the beginning of August. This is where mg picked the project up, and continued it with a few fixes himself, before somehow we caught the attention of h8rift. h8 has been awesome - cleaning up our trees, getting things in their proper home, and powering through anything that gets in his way It's so great to have him around.
Myself, up until October, had only ever had experience with things like making boot animations, icons, editing .xmls in .apks, and some slight .smali edits. Thanks to mg's excellent guide and a crapton of Googling, I learned out how to compile/build cm from source. Then I thought, "I wonder if I could do the same for other JB flavors?" So guess what? I tried, and it worked. Every single question I had along the way (with the exception of a few Ubuntu and git specific questions), were answered by a thread here at XDA. Cool, right?
I am very excited to see new ROMage out for this device...as I'm sure anyone who was here through the "Great Holiday Wars of 2012" would agree, I was pretty sure what we had was all we were ever going to see. Which again, would have been OK, cause there are some great ROMs out there, but I've never been the kind of dude to settle in on the same ROM for too long - that's why I came to XDA in the first place. Now as I'm sure everyone can see, through collaboration, this project is making HUGE progress! I cannot thank mg and h8 enough for keeping it going. This brings me to my last point...
I encourage everyone to participate, and offer suggestions, and share information - that is, after all, what a developer's forum should be about. The wealth of knowledge that's available at XDA is out of this world, but sometimes hiding deep within the threads, filled by off-topic chatter and users who have way to huge a sense of entitlement. Please always keep in mind that the things you're getting here are free. Hours upon hours upon hours of work go into these projects, just to be shared for very little asked in return. Wait, we ask for something in return? Yes - READ, SEARCH, and SEARCH AGAIN before posting. Like I said, there's already a wealth of knowledge here that's incomparable to other Android forums on the web, but yes, sometimes it can be trying to find that information. But it's not impossible. Also - keep an eye on the issues list. There are bugs. There will probably always be bugs. And as long as there are, they will continue to be squished to the best of our ability (though h8's ability is far beyond mine, so let's especially be nice to him )
In closing - PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not let this place become what it was before. So far I feel like the atmosphere around here has been a lot better, but I know how easy it can be for it to slip back to where it was. So be respectful, don't ask for ETAs, and be thankful for what we have - cause what we now have is a TON more options that we had before.
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I got my vivid in april lol. when did the "wars" start? didnt really get into xda until like may or july
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
I got my vivid in april lol. when did the "wars" start? didnt really get into xda until like may or july
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Right before that...I got my vivid in late may I think and that was when the blame game was going around lol...wasn't pretty
Could not agree more with the op, lets be thankful for what we now have...and hopeful for what's to come
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seems like I got my vivid after all this happend. Got it off craigslist since I was switching from cricket
Well said homeslice. Although I haven't been as active in my participation I got the Vivid on day 1 and am really happy to see development where it is today. There were many points I thought the device was basically dead and time and time again it was revived with new life. Hopefully the few left can make sure not to repeat drama mistakes of the past.
And great job on going from a reader to a developer, very well done.
Why is my xda premium app only let me reply/post on certain sections of forums and not development??:banghead:
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Random. But how many posts do you have? Until you have 10, you won't be able to post I. Development
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Random. But how many posts do you have? Until you have 10, you won't be able to post I. Development
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i think is not fair to close a wip thread to bring a sense 4 rom to the vivid all i wanted to do is help this device users to be on the latest software as i said in the post that was closed i wasn't going to share it to everybody i want it to share it to developers to bring this rom to all users but it got closed for "kanging" which i think is not true since venom team never released a vivid rom even thou the did for rezound which is pretty similar device but cdma and korean's make their work on the rom also to make the radio work which no body here in xda could do after many tries all i want is to help the community and specific this device owners which expect more from this device and we know is capable of running this system and much more please let the development continue we are stuck right know on sense only because someone doesn't want to share their work on other devices which is ok if you are the developer of something and you don't want to share but why stop someone who is trying to help on a device you haven't released a rom I bet that many of the vivid users would like to flash a sense 4.1 rom on their devices
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i think is not fair to close a wip thread to bring a sense 4 rom to the vivid all i wanted to do is help this device users to be on the latest software as i said in the post that was closed i wasn't going to share it to everybody i want it to share it to developers to bring this rom to all users but it got closed for "kanging" which i think is not true since venom team never released a vivid rom even thou the did for rezound which is pretty similar device but cdma and korean's make their work on the rom also to make the radio work which no body here in xda could do after many tries all i want is to help the community and specific this device owners which expect more from this device and we know is capable of running this system and much more please let the development continue we are stuck right know on sense only because someone doesn't want to share their work on other devices which is ok if you are the developer of something and you don't want to share but why stop someone who is trying to help on a device you haven't released a rom I bet that many of the vivid users would like to flash a sense 4.1 rom on their devices
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In what part of this conversation with you this morning @ 8:01 AM was I not clear about? Would you care to elaborate??
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i had been given a link to a rom port of venom rom for the htc vivid with sense 4 and your mods in it but it is the only rom that has sense 4 for the vivid i would like your permission to post it in vivid section since it is your work the only problem is that it was made in korea and the installer script and aroma is in korean language please think about it there are so many vivid users that would like to use sense 4 on their devices thanks for your time!!
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Sorry but we don't approve of the use of our work by non-team members and do not condone the porting of any of our roms to other devices for various reasons. One of those reasons is these roms will never meet the same level of quality and support our users have become accustomed to as such, these roms will never be allowed on xda and will also be refused Venom Hub access.
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Can it be used as a base at least since it has a working ril?
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That would be the same as porting
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Ok thanks for the time you took to answer my request!!
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Sorry it's not the answer you're looking for but we run into these request every day along with unauthorized ports.
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Don't worry i understand perfect the situation
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In what part of this conversation with you this morning @ 8:01 AM was I not clear about? Would you care to elaborate??
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Btw, we're not trying to be the bad guys here... We're simply trying to protect our property. Perhaps the best way for you to achieve your objective is to reach out to the kangers to find out how they managed to port it over to your device...
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Btw, we're not trying to be the bad guys here... We're simply trying to protect our property. Perhaps the best way for you to achieve your objective is to reach out to the kangers to find out how they managed to port it over to your device...
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That's exactly what I want but there is a language barrier, instead of releasing could you try to make it legit here with your team? Please I know there are really good developers and they can find how to make it legit is all I ask I do not want to make an issue out of trying to help others with this device, this device is capable of running this Rom flawless just like the one x or rezound which in fact is is the same device but cdma could you help us or assign this port to one of your team members?
Or if none of you has the vivid let a vivid developer take care of it please we have really good developers here to!!
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This all sounds familiar...the point of this thread...
Let's just drop it. The villec2 should get its jellybean sense+ update soon, and maybe we can port it. Or maybe we can get the Koreans to share their secret. In the meantime, it appears to be elsewhere, so get it there if you must
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That's exactly what I want but there is a language barrier, instead of releasing could you try to make it legit here with your team? Please I know there are really good developers and they can find how to make it legit is all I ask I do not want to make an issue out of trying to help others with this device, this device is capable of running this Rom flawless just like the one x or rezound which in fact is is the same device but cdma could you help us or assign this port to one of your team members?
Or if none of you has the vivid let a vivid developer take care of it please we have really good developers here to!!
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So, the options are:
1. We remove all of our tweaks from the framework files of a kanged port of one of our roms so that you can use it as a base
2. You find a Korean translator to ask the one who got data working how he did it.
Let's not start more xda drama the vivid forum has already been thru this. Either find someone who speaks Korean to ask to translate or have them remove all of their tweaks like they ask. The vivid has come to far now to start drama over a sense 4 ROM
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So, the options are:
1. We remove all of our tweaks from the framework files of a kanged port of one of our roms so that you can use it as a base
2. You find a Korean translator to ask the one who got data working how he did it.
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I'm not been sarcastic please help the vivid users to get a sense 4 Rom up and running if you can remove your framework from it that would be awesome to use it as a base I know you and your team are great developers I'm using your viper Rom on my wifes phone and I am really impressed with what you guys have done, I never wanted to start a war here or elsewhere all I want to do is give the sense 4 option to vivid owners like me!! I'm really sorry I have caused any issues.
Happy New year to everybody !!!! I hope this mess get resolved soon !!!
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I'm not been sarcastic please help the vivid users to get a sense 4 Rom up and running if you can remove your framework from it that would be awesome to use it as a base I know you and your team are great developers I'm using your viper Rom on my wifes phone and I am really impressed with what you guys have done, I never wanted to start a war here or elsewhere all I want to do is give the sense 4 option to vivid owners like me!! I'm really sorry I have caused any issues.
Happy New year to everybody !!!! I hope this mess get resolved soon !!!
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You don't understand the work effort in removing our tweaks from the framework so you'll need to follow up with the Koreans.
And I honestly hope we don't see any more links to this kang roms, either here or on rootzwiki.
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You don't understand the work effort in removing our tweaks from the framework so you'll need to follow up with the Koreans.
And I honestly hope we don't see any more links to this kang roms, either here or on rootzwiki.
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I do understand, I'm sorry if it was to much to ask I also understand that you and your team can be mad because of my actions, it won't happen again I'm really sorry
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I do understand, I'm sorry if it was to much to ask I also understand that you and your team can be mad because of my actions, it won't happen again I'm really sorry
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Time to find some Koreans!
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Time to find some Koreans!
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I tried to contact bananacakes but he hasn't responded yet
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While everyone is waiting for their phones, I thought I would start a thread where we could just talk without worrying about going off-topic. If you want to talk about how other phones compare to the HTC First, rant about rotten fruit and the vegetables that use them, etc, than this is the place.
Just please remember that all of the forum rules still apply here though.
welcome to XDA
Hi everybody, I am one of the mods on the team, welcome to the forums. If you post a question thread here in the General forum and notice it is missing, please check the One Q&A forum and you might just find it there.
If you posted a placeholder thread simply to gain thanks for doing nothing, you might have to keep looking...
Thank you,
mf2112
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about the placeholder threads.... you will close the placeholders or delete them
? people start the placeholder index threads (they are closed) and then when the device is released their thread is opened again and that is not fair. if such threads are opened again then what is the use of closing them at the first place. it would be better if you delete any placeholder threads when they are created.
just a request to mods that you delete placeholders.
thanks
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about the placeholder threads.... you will close the placeholders or delete them
? people start the placeholder index threads (they are closed) and then when the device is released their thread is opened again and that is not fair. if such threads are opened again then what is the use of closing them at the first place. it would be better if you delete any placeholder threads when they are created.
just a request to mods that you delete placeholders.
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To be honest I hadn't decided completely. I understand that such threads are going to be opened even though they are really off-topic and have nothing to do with the phones. In some cases depending on the quality of the post and the attitude of the member, I might undelete/reopen it, but I might not since the only real purpose in opening such a thread now is to gain thanks for doing nothing of real benefit and I don't think that type of behavior is generally to be rewarded. Especially when it is really of no benefit whatsoever. Not like a placeholder for a [GUIDE] or something actually potentially useful, especially if done by a well-known member with a good history.
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To be honest I hadn't decided completely. I understand that such threads are going to be opened even though they are really off-topic and have nothing to do with the phones. In some cases depending on the quality of the post and the attitude of the member, I might undelete/reopen it, but I might not since the only real purpose in opening such a thread now is to gain thanks for doing nothing of real benefit and I don't think that type of behavior is generally to be rewarded. Especially when it is really of no benefit whatsoever. Not like a placeholder for a [GUIDE] or something actually potentially useful, especially if done by a well-known member with a good history.
Thank you,
mf2112
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ay thanks. would like to see this phone getting many devs
4.2 on htc first ?
any 4.2 rom available for htc first ?
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any 4.2 rom available for htc first ?
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Not yet. But according to The Verge, the One Mini will be released in the US (AT&T) on Friday. Hopefully, some dedicated Dev might be able to port its (4.2) ROM to the First - or use it to help get CM or other ASOP working.
some pics i took
i think the htc first is a sexy looking thing, and decided to take some pictures using a background defocus mode. didnt quite work out since the camera doesnt recognize PHONES as a face or anything to focus on...so i did the best i could and came up with this.
i had to compress the pcitures, originaly each one was around 3.5 - 4 megabytes in size and was around 2000x1400 in size or something around there. in otherwords. huge.
R.I.P. to that CM development that we had going on a few weeks ago
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R.I.P. to that CM development that we had going on a few weeks ago
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nope, waiting on my HTC 1st, currently tracking it now.... should be here by friday
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nope, waiting on my HTC 1st, currently tracking it now.... should be here by friday
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Good to hear! I'm anxious to see what you can do with it
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i think the htc first is a sexy looking thing, and decided to take some pictures using a background defocus mode. didnt quite work out since the camera doesnt recognize PHONES as a face or anything to focus on...so i did the best i could and came up with this.
i had to compress the pcitures, originaly each one was around 3.5 - 4 megabytes in size and was around 2000x1400 in size or something around there. in otherwords. huge.
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That's a fine looking piece of hardware you've got there (;
I regret not getting the black now because the red model strains like crazy and I've tried everything from putting it in a bowl of toothpaste, alcohol, baking soda, and soap to let it set in the freezer over night but no results
and here she is
https://twitter.com/Lloir/status/414045900580061184/photo/1
TO THE ROM BUILDING MACHINE!
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and here she is
https://twitter.com/Lloir/status/414045900580061184/photo/1
TO THE ROM BUILDING MACHINE!
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:victory:
thing is guys. Rashed can do it. like he could do it blindfolded and port like anything no joke ive seen this happen. but what he needs is like a ton of spare time. being in highschool is busy stuff. im just fresh out of there and into college, barely find some time to sit down and ruu my phone cause i use it for like school and stuff.
so if we all have patience either he will do it or someone else, so dont get sad.
also, some plain logic. the more we wait the more people buy the first and the more support we get.
Sadly the First is discontinued so not much people will be buying it unless they are looking for it specifically lol.
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Sadly the First is discontinued so not much people will be buying it unless they are looking for it specifically lol.
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True...maybe I'll get back into programming. I used to do it a lot but not anymore. I just got sick of java and c lol
But for now its not that bad. At least its fast and stock jb is great as is. Trust me running jb on older phones just sucks
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My htc first Zz
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M from india, first android phone from usa. I dont know why mobile data and wifi dont work > Have to learn to android stuff to make my phone working condition lol..
plz guide guys thnx..
If you like Roms, then go and check out his development for S5 G900f. It's really great! !
I hope, it's okay to advertise this here.
Regards
Mod Edit: No its not, they left XDA so to respect their wishes we won't allow XDA to be used to drive traffic to their site.
Already using it, SUPER ROM!!!!!
Using this rom for some time now and its super stable no laggs long battery life
Can I ask who told you this LIE??
Pls tell me its not a moderator again..pls i really hope we are not stooping to this level...
Echoe Development left xda because of the way i was being treated by the hierarchy..
but this is not the place or a subject that should be of anyone's business...
pls tell me who told you this lie though..
After people have been proven to kang my roms on the S4..
in case this gets deleted, which prob will, please find me and tell who told you this LIE please
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CAN I ASK WHO TOLD YOU THIS LIE??
Pls tell me its not a moderator again..
Echoe Development left xda because of the way i was being treated by the hierarchy..
pls tell me who told you this lie though..
After people have been proven to kang my roms on the S4..
in case this gets deleted, which prob will, please find me and tell me if a moderator told you this lie...
because a couple of them have been saying this ABSOLUTE LIE to users and they are still here free to bully people around..
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Im not telling thats its true, i always used your roms on my s4 and now on my s5, but ive seen it on your kernel in the special thanks thingy
And i dont believe that you steal things, have seen your roms and looking at the code you've done everything yourself.
But all your roms left xda?
Btw, im trying to log in on your forum using tapatalk but it dont load at all or must i continue using the browser version?
Hey friedrich, always loved your ROM when I was using S4. I didn't knew you're still cooking...good to know because I got a S5 now and will flash some bliss to it
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Im not telling thats its true, i always used your roms on my s4 and now on my s5, but ive seen it on your kernel in the special thanks thingy
Not gonna post the an image dont want you to be banned again..
But all your roms left xda?
Btw, im trying to log in on your forum using tapatalk but it dont load at all or must i continue using the browser version?
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my friend i never said you claimed this..
but in order for you to say this, it means someone is spreading that NASTY RUMOR!!
And i think its only fair to me to know who is spreading these lies...
We shouldnt continue with this.. i cannot talk about my development here or about anything non-xda related.... the only reason i posted is because i was informed that there was a post about me supposedly leaving xda because of stealing...
just one question to the moderator spreading these vicious lies: how can i steal when in anything i develop I ALWAYS (and i mean ALWAYS!!) release first??
i prefer we talk about this via pm's..
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my friend i never said you claimed this..
but in order for you to say this, it means someone is spreading that NASTY RUMOR!!
And i think its only fair to me to know who is spreading these lies...
We shouldnt continue with this.. i cannot talk about my development here or about anything non-xda related.... the only reason i posted is because i was informed that there was a post about me supposedly leaving xda because of stealing...
just one question? how can i steal when in anything i develop I ALWAYS (and i mean ALWAYS!!) release first??
i prefer we talk about this via pm's..
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Alright ill pm you
@friedrich420
What with G900i variant? It would be really really nice to install your ROM in G900i devices...
Do you plan develop your great ROM to this device?
Thanks in advance!!!
Best regards!
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my friend i never said you claimed this..
but in order for you to say this, it means someone is spreading that NASTY RUMOR!!
And i think its only fair to me to know who is spreading these lies...
We shouldnt continue with this.. i cannot talk about my development here or about anything non-xda related.... the only reason i posted is because i was informed that there was a post about me supposedly leaving xda because of stealing...
just one question to the moderator spreading these vicious lies: how can i steal when in anything i develop I ALWAYS (and i mean ALWAYS!!) release first??
i prefer we talk about this via pm's..
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Tried to send second pm but your box seems to be full
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