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Alright guys, getting a little bored with the stock ROM! What is the best ROM floating out there? Are all the ROM's just easily done with a update.zip file, or do you usually have to use Odin?
Depends on what you're looking for... official Captivate firmwares other than JF6 are all internal test builds ATM. As far as ROMs go there's a decent variety of options to choose from, but they all depend on your personal preference.
However you've come in at sort of a transitional period, we've got lag fix kernels, we've got OC kernels, and we've got kernels that make I9000 ROMS work properly on the Captivate, but all of those things aren't yet merged.
I recommend you keep on reading, check out the different threads, figure out what suits you, and if you don't find what you're looking for- wait a week, I'm sure someone will come up with it
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Depends on what you're looking for... official Captivate firmwares other than JF6 are all internal test builds ATM. As far as ROMs go there's a decent variety of options to choose from, but they all depend on your personal preference.
However you've come in at sort of a transitional period, we've got lag fix kernels, we've got OC kernels, and we've got kernels that make I9000 ROMS work properly on the Captivate, but all of those things aren't yet merged.
I recommend you keep on reading, check out the different threads, figure out what suits you, and if you don't find what you're looking for- wait a week, I'm sure someone will come up with it
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/agree 100%!!
Really appreciate the replies guys!! I'll keep an eye out! What exactly is so special about the I9000 rom's?
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jbcap43 said:
Really appreciate the replies guys!! I'll keep an eye out! What exactly is so special about the I9000 rom's?
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the i9000 ROMs are generally cleaner (less bloat, a little more streamlined). they're also more recent for the most part. they have other features that really comes down to user preference though. I enjoyed the i9000 ROM I ran much more than the stock captivate one.
I suggest trying it and comparing it to how you used JF6 and go with whichever feels better to you. Each ROM has it's own bugs. Last time I ran an i9000 ROM was JM5 and it refused to clear message/e-mail alerts unless you manually backed all the way out, can't say if it's fixed yet with later releases.
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Really appreciate the replies guys!! I'll keep an eye out! What exactly is so special about the I9000 rom's?
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They're a bit more mature development-wise. The I9000 has been on the market longer is and is ATM Samsungs "baby" so they're getting all the newest updates. In addition their firmwares don't include any of the bloat that the Captivate has since international carriers don't care about stupid crap like "AT&T Navigator"- they also don't care if people can sideload.
Don't get me wrong, cross pollinating I9000 ROMS can have their own little annoyances, like flaky haptic feedback and scuh, but the reorient kernel takes care of the really big issues.
One thing you should REALLY look into before you start flashing ANYTHING is whether or not your phone is capable of using button combinations to get into recovery and download mode. Some of the newer handsets arent. A good starting point would be to turn off your phone... let it shut down completely, then hold both volume buttons and power on. If you get into the recovery menu, GREAT.
Next step (Assuming you passed the first), power off your phone, hold both volume buttons, and plug in USB, if you get the android guy with the shovel that means you're good to go, you'll have to yank battery to reset from this point, but this verifies you can achieve download mode, which means game on for careless flashing!
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One thing you should REALLY look into before you start flashing ANYTHING is whether or not your phone is capable of using button combinations to get into recovery and download mode. Some of the newer handsets arent. A good starting point would be to turn off your phone... let it shut down completely, then hold both volume buttons and power on. If you get into the recovery menu, GREAT.
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I've seen mention of people being unable to achieve that. I presumed they were just getting the timing wrong.
So if you fail that, does it mean you are unable to change ROM?
no,it just means that you will have to be more careful, and that you may not be able to fix your phone if anything goes wrong.
my 2 cents
Well for what it is worth. this is my daily driver as of now.
I went into odin and flashed back to stock.
Flashed the i9000 JM8 rom( the Phone CODE file from JM8 and the CSC from JM5)
Then flashed the stock captivate kernal and the .512 pit file
once that is done i flashed Unhelpfuls kernal over to OC
Then i flashed the Tatumia(sp) rom over it.
Ran the OCLF app from the market and changed my scheduler to deadline.
It is by far the best for real world performance and my quadrants are in the 2200-2300 range(like it matters).
Enjoy
P.s. i have flashed i am sure every other combination of roms and kernals and stuff. Voodoo kernal is freaking awesome but i cant get Clockwork to work with it and that is just not okay with me!
I just found the long thread about this topic here. Haven't read through it all yet. Won't bother unless I find I end up with a phone with that problem.
okay, so what's so special about this ROM the cyanogen mod? When will this be available...?
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jbcap43 said:
okay, so what's so special about this ROM the cyanogen mod? When will this be available...?
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Nobody knows when it will be available since it is only getting Vibrant support to start. Cyanogen mod is probably the most popular ROM for Android, I don't know much about it though. They have a wiki page and a website for information.
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okay, so what's so special about this ROM the cyanogen mod? When will this be available...?
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cyanogenmod is a HUGELY supported ROM based on AOSP (android open source project) with various tweaks to improve usability. as for release, well the only rule about cyanogenmod is that you don't ask for release dates
officially, the Captivate isn't even supported, only the Vibrant is. But as shown, moving things over from Vibrant to Captivate isn't terribly difficult, but still takes time and we'll need someone to maintain it (cyanogen does not release/support devices it doesn't expect to work properly on). support for the vibrant is slated for 6.1 (which will probably be November, it's hard to say)
let me pop in and say there is no "Best Rom" just best for you. We all look for different things in the roms we use so it really is a trial and error. Just make sure to read, read and read some more to make sure you have everything set up right and dont end up with a big brick.
I am closing this.
good luck with your rom search
I have a tilt 2 with 8/30/2010 update n its suck i was wondering wats a good custom rom to use that dosent freezes up or runs super slow n were to download it at
We get at least a dozen new users asking this question every couple of weeks. The response is always the same. This is like asking a community of peers which pants are the most comfortable. It's a matter of opinion. Flashing doesn't harm your device at all (if you follow instructions), and it's simple to restore it to factory settings if you need to send it in for repairs or replacement. Therefore, with no downside to flashing ROMs, just keep flashing them until you find something you like.
Most ROM threads will tell you within the first couple of posts most of the goals of the ROM, and whether they are cooked for speed, looks, or stability. There are also pictures on most all of them so you can see it before you flash. Flashing takes minutes, so why not just spend a day or so testing a bunch of them out. I've been flashing for a long time and I still don't stick to just one ROM.
HTC Tilt 2 ROM Needed
coldest73 said:
I have a tilt 2 with 8/30/2010 update n its suck i was wondering wats a good custom rom to use that dosent freezes up or runs super slow n were to download it at
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I got the same problem with this ROM from AT&T. I called HTC and they admit that there is a memory leak problem in the HTC Sense built into that version of the ROM. So does anyone have a ROM with a better (or later) HTC Ｓｅｎｓｅ ｔｈａｔ ｗｏｒｋｓ， ｉ．ｅ． ｆａｓｔ， ｎｏ ｍｅｍｏｒｙ ｌｅａｋ， ａｎｄ ｎｏ ｌｏｃｋｕｐ？
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The best advice that can be given to those in your situation (besides HardSPL'ing your device) it to
1) Pick a ROM on this very board.
2) Flash it to your phone.
3) Use your phone.
4)
a) If you like it, then your problem is solved.
b) If you don't like it, do steps 1-3 until you get to step 4a)
Software Version 1.59.502.3
Will this new software version be a huge upgrade from my current version without losing any default features that I now have?
Consider using Wildchild's ROMs. They are pretty much stock look/feel, but faster and much more stable.
http://wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=118&sid=741a5ea812a3745925be5ba47e563b69
Will Bluetooth work with this rom?
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Will Bluetooth work with this rom?
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Yep. Bluetooth works great. Actually everything works great. Its a ROM where everything works as it should. Keep in mind, bloatware is removed, but all the core stuff works perfect.
Thanks - where is the best place to read up on with instructions on how to do this?
Try the flashing your first Rhodium ROM tutorial sticky.
Thanks - it appears there are several versions of the rom, so I have a lot of reading to figure out what the differences are.
Do you have any preference?
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Thanks - it appears there are several versions of the rom, so I have a lot of reading to figure out what the differences are.
Do you have any preference?
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Also what is the differences between the blue and black stock upgrades on Wildchild's forum?
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Also what is the differences between the blue and black stock upgrades on Wildchild's forum?
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I use the 2.1 ROM from Wild Child and it is absolutely the best. Has everything I need and nothing I don't. It is fast, stable, in my mind, the way it should have been from the beginning. It is a rock solid ROM.
This is the one I was going to flash on my phone, but after hours of working on it with F2505x4 we could not get it to flash. There was an issue with the HardSPL. I ended up flashing the updated AT&T stock rom instead for now.
I'm looking for a gingerbread install for a bell I9000-m basically just need to make sure that the swype keyboard is fairly decent or similar to the bell one and whichever replacement is found here.
Im guessing I'll need a link to a stock modem driver but I've never done this before with much success besides just kindof bumbeling through a bit.
Let me know anything that could help in my quest here.
I would like to find some links to a good set of files for this update. I've read at many places that for bell you must ask for specific files for this task as it must be more complicated for the bell setup for some reason.
Even a Nexus S firmware if port-able to this device would be fine.
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I'm looking for a gingerbread install for a bell I9000-m basically just need to make sure that the swype keyboard is fairly decent or similar to the bell one and whichever replacement is found here.
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Any firmware for the i9000 works on the i9000m. There are plenty of threads in the development section with gb roms. Just download the KC1 modem for either Odin or CWM and flash that - I won't get into details, there are a bazillion threads discussing how to do this properly on the i9000m
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Let me know anything that could help in my quest here.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=656&nojs=1#goto_forumsearch
chamunks said:
I would like to find some links to a good set of files for this update. I've read at many places that for bell you must ask for specific files for this task as it must be more complicated for the bell setup for some reason.
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You need to stop reading whatever forums you're reading, and stick to this one. There are no specific files, and it is no more complicated than any other i9000.
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Even a Nexus S firmware if port-able to this device would be fine.
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Then use Cyanogenmod. Again, all of these are in the development subforum.
You mention Cyanogenmod but wouldnt that be froyo?
I didnt really mean just link me to the specific forum subgroup I was hoping for some more specific direction I realize my question wasn't that clear i suppose. Anyways I've basically just had trouble changing the firmware on this device before and I really dont want to end up bricking it with a bad firmware flash.
Basically a good starting point example link would be fantastic I will do some more research and if i manage to do this myself I will post my findings just to close the thread.
Flash JVH and then flash KC1 modem, done.
I also dont want to install a beta gingerbread release if at all avoidable and mostly a vanilla or highly reccomended third party custom would be fine too.
JVH is official release in parts of Europe. I'm with Bell, running JVH with KC1 modem since its release and absolutely no issues.
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You mention Cyanogenmod but wouldnt that be froyo?
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No, CM7 is 2.3.4 which is Gingerbread. Cyanogenmod 6 (which was froyo afaik) never really came to be on the i9000.
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I didnt really mean just link me to the specific forum subgroup I was hoping for some more specific direction I realize my question wasn't that clear i suppose. Anyways I've basically just had trouble changing the firmware on this device before and I really dont want to end up bricking it with a bad firmware flash.
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There isn't really anything specific for the i9000m. Really, its just a matter of picking a rom and following the flashing instructions. If you're flashing a stock release (like JVH lets say), use Odin, flash the tarball with update bootloader checked and once thats done, flash an appropriate modem for Bell (for 850mhz), like KC1 that I find works very well.
If you're flashing a cooked rom, like those in the development subforum, then you'd flash something like JVH, flash an appropriate kernel with clockworkmod (I prefer speedmod, but there are others), then you'd install the cooked rom through cwm recovery.
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Basically a good starting point example link would be fantastic I will do some more research and if i manage to do this myself I will post my findings just to close the thread.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011901
That thread should have all the information you need on flashing JVH along with screenshots and links to the roms.
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I also dont want to install a beta gingerbread release if at all avoidable and mostly a vanilla or highly reccomended third party custom would be fine too.
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As others have said, JVH is an official release for a lot of European carriers. It will work fine on the i9000m. I was running JVH + KC1 Modem for a while before switching to the latest Cyanogenmod nightly (which works absolutely fantastic now).
If you're looking for an official Bell Gingerbread release.... you'll just have to keep waiting. Bell is slower than the second coming. Just keep a full KC1 or JL2 (with bootloaders) around so you can flash back to stock if you need be.
Also, you said you had trouble flashing before. I'd suggest following that link in my post above, and if you get stuck, come back and we can step you through.
And finally, you really can't brick you phone as long as you are able to access download mode and 3 button recovery. Absolutely make sure you can access these two modes before flashing anything.
I have actually had issues getting into recovery mode sometimes but not usually, but have no problem entering download mode. I think at one point I wound up with upload mode... which doesent seem to be documented... But dont quote me on that one as it was a while ago (after searching high and low on my NAS I cant find the photo i took sorry). I have actually had to send this phone off to bell to get them to fix it twice now.
Once due to my inability to do this properly without making a forum post asking these question and another due to a bad Kies update sending my phone into a boot loop.
So you say Cyanogen nightly works well im thinking I might give that a shot as im sure there are good reasons why you would want to use cyanogen over another release. Im just hoping for no weird Telco specific crap on my phone unless its Bell specific if i must have even that.
Would I go into the ROM list thread for the cyanogenmod nightly? http://goo.gl/IBbEm
Which leads me to this? http://goo.gl/b5UwG
or is there a better way to obtain CM7? Also what would be a good location to try and find my modem driver (KC1)?
I'm sorry to spam questions here but one final one. Would there be a good boot loader that I should strive for, if any?
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JVH is official release in parts of Europe. I'm with Bell, running JVH with KC1 modem since its release and absolutely no issues.
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I am running the above now. I was on Darky 9.5, then upgraded yesterday to Ficeto JVB, Dark Core 2.2 and Darky's v10 RC6. Then flashed Dark Core 2.3.
I then flashed KC1 modem this morning.
Running great and loving the rom so far.. its a base rom, so not a lot of features in it but at least i can customize it to how i like it so far.
I've downloaded this file I9000UGKC1 ## 512.PIT 2.2 2011 March from samfirmwares I'm hoping it works out well for giving me the modem driver.
And
Gingerbread 2.3.3: XWJVH from http://goo.gl/AEYzr to get a gingerbread release with a boot loader.
I will now look for a copy of odin hopefully it doesn't matter which version I get but I've noticed there is allot of fuzz when it comes to odin versions or even where to obtain it even. I want to obtain it from a legitimate source but it seems as though there is no specific location as to where to get it.
At some point I would like to try Cyanogen as everyone holds it in rather high regard though I'm not really sure what the benefits would be.
Some roms on here come with odin. You can also get it from samfirmware. The development thread is where you will find all information for each release. There's a few sources for cwm flashable modems. Odin isn't bad at all, it can be a little finicky with win 7 64 bit for some people but I have had no problems with it at all. Good luck and hope you find a rom that suits you.
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There isn't really anything specific for the i9000m. Really, its just a matter of picking a rom and following the flashing instructions. If you're flashing a stock release (like JVH lets say), use Odin, flash the tarball with update bootloader checked and once thats done, flash an appropriate modem for Bell (for 850mhz), like KC1 that I find works very well.
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Do you see much of a difference with the KC1 modem? Im running the JVO modem and it works fine for me usually have 3-4 bar connection, 3G tends to run quite often and get a 1Mbps down and 2 Mbps up connection, only thing I notice is that it runs on the 1900 band mostly
Any benefits to switching to KC1? Battery savings?
Do you see much of a difference with the KC1 modem? Im running the JVO modem and it works fine for me usually have 3-4 bar connection, 3G tends to run quite often and get a 1Mbps down and 2 Mbps up connection, only thing I notice is that it runs on the 1900 band mostly
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Turns out the
PDA: XWJVH
MODEM: XXJVO
CSC: NEEJV3 or XEEJV3 (Only difference between NEE and XEE is the CSC code)
Build Date: Wed May 4 18:03:59 KST 2011
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seems to work fine with working modem from http://goo.gl/02b7S
BUT
there is no OpenVpn OR SIP and those are the two things that I really wanted out of gingerbread.
I personally found JL2 better than KC1. I get up to 5mb/s down and 3mb/s up.
About cyanogen, you gotta try it to see . I didn't believe the difference would be noticeable either...
If you want modems for cm7, click the JL2 modem link in my sig, there's a post full of them.
For modems for other roms, look over there : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876391
And just like everyone else said, you can flash i9000 roms on i9000m without any problems - in fact even flashing a different modem isn't necessary, depending on your provider, it's just better.
those are features commonly found within the custom roms for jvh
Thanks for this thread. Provided the modem for me to get this working properly.
If I were you I would stick with a Daryky rom. his 10 finaly is a little slow and glitchy at times so I recommend 10 RC6. it's a stock jvh rom with his tweeks. Cyanogen is basically vanilla rom. it's so fast (the best i've flashed so far) but it's missing swype, like you stated you wanted that. I tried getting the beta swype but it didn't work. anyways i'm actually liking the gingerbread keyboard haha. so ya, if you need swype stick with darky rom, if your looking to try an amazing rom try cyanogen.
The swype beta installed without any problems for me on cm7...
The only thing is I speak french, so either I get the english keyboard, or I get the "France" french one... which is AZERTY... u_U
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If I were you I would stick with a Daryky rom. his 10 finaly is a little slow and glitchy at times so I recommend 10 RC6. it's a stock jvh rom with his tweeks. Cyanogen is basically vanilla rom. it's so fast (the best i've flashed so far) but it's missing swype, like you stated you wanted that. I tried getting the beta swype but it didn't work.
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I used Darky's rom for a looong time before switching to something else. I really didn't like the theme (at the time), and I found roms that seemed to perform better. I also ran a deodexed JL2 that I cooked myself for a while.
You can get swipe APKs from just about any custom rom out there, just pull the apk out of the .zip and install it. Or, I just signed up for swipe beta and installed it - works great.
Anyway, I guess the bottom line is that there are so many options available, and so many fantastic cooked roms available in the development thread, that trying them and finding one you really like is the only way to go.
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
There is no "best" rom. It's what's "best" for you. Read the forums and learn to flash 2.2 roms first.
I must warn you, flashing becomes very addictive.
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Yea i know i have a sidekick 4g and ive tried about every rom on it
thanks for the info though
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Yea i know i have a sidekick 4g and ive tried about every rom on it
thanks for the info though
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I recommend trying MIUI, the customization is what puts it over the top!
Here are a few different versions of MIUI:
Galnet**What I prefer**
http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/twooey/v3/Twooey-V3-i897.zip
Prototypes release
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066885
MIUI.us
http://roms.miui.us/1.8.12/MIUI.us_captivatemtd_1.8.12_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed.zip
Ok ill give it a try..do i have to update to a different version> im running 2.1 right now
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Ok ill give it a try..do i have to update to a different version> im running 2.1 right now
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I've not been on 2.1 since phone came out. I would use odin one click to goto 2.2 stock. Root it then install cwm and then follow this guide if your going to try Galnet's MIUI.
http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/content/forum/guides/(guide)-i897-galaxy-s-captivate-gb-bootloaders/
Then just pop the MIUI.zip on root of sdcard and install from CWM.
Tyler0309 said:
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
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Wow... so... You should probably READ a lot more before flashing anything, but I'll give you a few hints to get you going:
1) Make sure you understand what a "PBL", "SBL", "Kernel", and "Modem" are and how they are placed/installed in your phone.
2) Learn how to correctly and safely use ODIN (and/or Heimdall).
3) Learn about the various methods of recovery for "soft bricks", and if necessary for your hardware revision, possibly invest in a jig (also learn what a jig is)
4) There are 2 different types/branches of ROMs for the Captivate:
-- Samsung Branch
-- AOSP Branch
Within the "Samsung" types you have:
- i9000 ROMs (like JVP, JVR, JP8, etc)
- i897 ROMs (like JF6, KF1, etc)
Within the "AOSP" types you have:
- CM7
- MIUI
- Other AOSP-based ROMs
Which is "better" is relative. CM7 and MIUI have features that aren't present in the Samsung ROMs, and both offer a bit more customization than the Samsung ROMs. However, only the Samsung ROMs offer GPU accelerated video playback, and they tend to have significantly better battery life than the AOSP-type ROMs. Also the Samsung-type ROMs used to be much more stable than the AOSP branches, but recently, the tide may have turned in the other direction. Some of the low-level radio settings are also unavailable in any of the AOSP builds. And finally, some of the Samsung stock camera features are unavailable in CM7/MIUI.
It really all depends what you want... Do you want closer to stock "open source" Android? Or do you want Samsung's vision of what they think Android should be?
Also, the whole kernel/modem part is dependent on what branch of ROM you plan on running. When using a i9000-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i9000 kernel and modem. When using a i897-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i897 kernel and modem. The rules for CM7/MIUI are a bit more vague, but at the very least you'll need to use a CM7/MIUI (most AOSP-type kernels are interchangeable) compatible kernel.
The best advice is really to try them all out and see what you like the most. If you're currently on stock 2.1 (which it sounds like you are), at the very least you should upgrade to some variant of Gingerbread (2.3.4 preferably). You will definitely notice a big difference in terms of speed and functionality. From there, well, it's all really up to you...
OR alternatively, just start throwing stuff on your phone and see what happens. Just PLEASE don't come crying back in the Captivate General forum with a "OMG I bricked my phone!!! Plz help!!!" thread. Fair warning...
Just a suggestion, but become familiar with Odin one click. Make sure your captivate has 3 button recovery, and read, re- read, and read again the directions of every rom before you flash it. Always make a nandroid back up if possible, and read the threads.if you have questions, so did someone else and the answer is probably already out there .use search. Some People will rip your head off if you don't. as far as miui goes .....i was a flashaholic when I got phone. After switching to miui, It is very unlikely that I will ever leave. Best rom ever imho. And it updates every Friday so that satisfied the flashing urge. Usually it gets better with each release. The last couple have been a little rough though. Might want to spend the 8 bucks and have a download jig on standby. Can get it from mobiltech videos. Its worth it though
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Shammyh said:
Wow... so... You should probably READ a lot more before flashing anything, but I'll give you a few hints to get you going:
1) Make sure you understand what a "PBL", "SBL", "Kernel", and "Modem" are and how the are placed/installed in your phone.
2) Learn how to correctly and safely use ODIN (and/or Heimdall).
3) Learn about the various methods of recovery for "soft bricks", and if necessary for your hardware revision, possibly invest in a jig (also learn what a jig is)
4) There are 2 different types/branches of ROMs for the Captivate:
-- Samsung Branch
-- AOSP Branch
Within the "Samsung" types you have:
- i9000 ROMs (like JVP, JVR, JP8, etc)
- i897 ROMs (like JF6, KF1, etc)
Within the "AOSP" types you have:
- CM7
- MIUI
- Other AOSP-based ROMs
Which is "better" is relative. CM7 and MIUI have features that aren't present in the Samsung ROMs, and both offer a bit more customization than the Samsung ROMs. However, only the Samsung ROMs offer GPU accelerated video playback, and they tend to have significantly better battery life than the AOSP-type ROMs. Also the Samsung-type ROMs used to be much more stable than the AOSP branches, but recently, the tide may have turned in the other direction. Some of the low-level radio settings are also unavailable in any of the AOSP builds. And finally, some of the Samsung stock camera features are unavailable in CM7/MIUI.
It really all depends what you want... Do you want closer to stock "open source" Android? Or do you want Samsung's vision of what they think Android should be?
Also, the whole kernel/modem part is dependent on what branch of ROM you plan on running. When using a i9000-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i9000 kernel and modem. When using a i897-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i897 kernel and modem. The rules for CM7/MIUI are a bit more vague, but at the very least you'll need to use a CM7/MIUI (most AOSP-type kernels are interchangeable) compatible kernel.
The best advice is really to try them all out and see what you like the most. If you're currently on stock 2.1 (which it sounds like you are), at the very least you should upgrade to some variant of Gingerbread (2.3.4 preferably). You will definitely notice a big difference in terms of speed and functionality. From there, well, it's all really up to you...
OR alternatively, just start throwing stuff on your phone and see what happens. Just PLEASE don't come crying back in the Captivate General forum with a "OMG I bricked my phone!!! Plz help!!!" thread. Fair warning...
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Well said.
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Tyler0309 said:
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
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a very simple and easy way to start with...
2.1 is eclair..
2.2 froyo
2.3 gingerbread..
means 2.1 is oldest and 2.3 is latest in case of official roms..
so obviously new version will hav more features and faster in speed...
so now u can take baby step and install 2.2 ..and use it for few days..and get the feel of it..then again after sometime u can install 2.3...
or else u can directly jump to 2.3....which is gingerbread....u can install stock kf1 on ur phone..its leaked official gb...if u search a bit..u will get it..
then u can use it for a lil while and get the feel of gb stock rom..in the meanwhile u can read xda abt available custom roms..and then install any of them...
coz every memeber here in xda will suggest the custom rom they r using..coz they r lovin the rom then only they r using....like for me..since the time i started flashin..i always used APEX ROM..so i will say its the best....
but again thats just me..
so decision is always urs...
So I used to have a Samsung Galaxy SII GT-I9100, that was simple because there were a billion custom roms for the one phone.
I recently got a Telstra HTC Velocity 4G, and now apparently it's called three different things in different parts of the world? Not only that, but some have 1.2Ghz processors and some 1.5Ghz?
Anyways my question is, can I flash any Vivid/Raider roms and it would still work? Or is this not the case? If not, where would I be able to find custom roms for my phone (if there are any)?
Thanks in advance, I am only a HTC noob at the moment. I sorta miss being able to play with CM9 on my SGS2 haha.
ratweh said:
So I used to have a Samsung Galaxy SII GT-I9100, that was simple because there were a billion custom roms for the one phone.
I recently got a Telstra HTC Velocity 4G, and now apparently it's called three different things in different parts of the world? Not only that, but some have 1.2Ghz processors and some 1.5Ghz?
Anyways my question is, can I flash any Vivid/Raider roms and it would still work? Or is this not the case? If not, where would I be able to find custom roms for my phone (if there are any)?
Thanks in advance, I am only a HTC noob at the moment. I sorta miss being able to play with CM9 on my SGS2 haha.
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You can flash ANY region's ROMs without a hitch. I have an American device, and have been on the Aussie stock ROM ever since it came out.
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have a same problem with u ratweh, i'v HTC Raider 4G LTE x710e.
very confused bout why they give different name on different region...LOL, but, AFAIK, after asking this forum contributor, they said, we can flash Custom ROM provide for VIVID on VELOCITY / RAIDER and vice versa without worry ,
except ICS rom and official RUU off course
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have a same problem with u ratweh, i'v HTC Raider 4G LTE x710e.
very confused bout why they give different name on different region...LOL, but, AFAIK, after asking this forum contributor, they said, we can flash Custom ROM provide for VIVID on VELOCITY / RAIDER and vice versa without worry ,
except ICS rom and official RUU off course
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Thanks guys!
So even with the different CPU's and all it'll still be sweet?
What about modems? do I have to keep the stock Telstra one handy so I can re-flash it after every rom?
The CPU's are actually identical, they have different serial numbers to indicate the different modems, one has an internal modem on the chipset, the other has a modem attached elsewhere, the same drivers and such work for both so the difference is ignorable, the Vivid and Raider are underclocked to 1.2 by default however to save battery and for some reason the Velcity isn't perhaps for marketing reasons as its name "Velocity" would be stupid on a phone that is underclocked.
the ICS differences relate to something called the HBOOT, this is different for each device, but once your device has the ICS HBOOT it is perfectly fine to then flash any VIVID/RAIDER/VELOCITY rom on any device by first fastboot flashing the boot.img then flashing the rom .zip via recovery, this is a 2 step process so far because we don't have S-OFF... yet.
I have a HTC Velocity and have gone through pretty much all of the GB/ICS flashing scenarios and provided you read the instructions properly, which I have, I have not had any issues flashing the telstra roms, the at&t roms, the rum raider roms or what I am using now PirateGhosts RumFloat Beta4, which is no longer hosted on XDA due to a falling out, but google it and you can find it pretty easily, I will probably stick with RumFloat until CM9/MIUI is available.
PM me with any questions specifically about the Velocity and I can help you out mate
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The CPU's are actually identical, they have different serial numbers to indicate the different modems, one has an internal modem on the chipset, the other has a modem attached elsewhere, the same drivers and such work for both so the difference is ignorable, the Vivid and Raider are underclocked to 1.2 by default however to save battery and for some reason the Velcity isn't perhaps for marketing reasons as its name "Velocity" would be stupid on a phone that is underclocked.
the ICS differences relate to something called the HBOOT, this is different for each device, but once your device has the ICS HBOOT it is perfectly fine to then flash any VIVID/RAIDER/VELOCITY rom on any device by first fastboot flashing the boot.img then flashing the rom .zip via recovery, this is a 2 step process so far because we don't have S-OFF... yet.
I have a HTC Velocity and have gone through pretty much all of the GB/ICS flashing scenarios and provided you read the instructions properly, which I have, I have not had any issues flashing the telstra roms, the at&t roms, the rum raider roms or what I am using now PirateGhosts RumFloat Beta4, which is no longer hosted on XDA due to a falling out, but google it and you can find it pretty easily, I will probably stick with RumFloat until CM9/MIUI is available.
PM me with any questions specifically about the Velocity and I can help you out mate
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Woah haha thanks so much! That's exactly what i needed to hear!
Thanks heaps!
OK that's a lot of information i was looking for too!
I have to flash the Stock Telstra ICS (because I have Telstra Velocity) first. So i'll get the right HBOOT for my phone. After i can flash ICS of any other version except RUUs or OTA's because i could get the wrong HBOOT then?!
But there are still two things i'm wondering about:
1. What about the Radio Roms? Are they not different for every version? Or ist it just that they are not included in the Custom Roms?
2. What is if i want to go back to a GB Rom? Do i have to flash a GB RUU first to get the HBOOT back?
Maxi1984 said:
OK that's a lot of information i was looking for too!
I have to flash the Stock Telstra ICS (because I have Telstra Velocity) first. So i'll get the right HBOOT for my phone. After i can flash ICS of any other version except RUUs or OTA's because i could get the wrong HBOOT then?!
But there are still two things i'm wondering about:
1. What about the Radio Roms? Are they not different for every version? Or ist it just that they are not included in the Custom Roms?
2. What is if i want to go back to a GB Rom? Do i have to flash a GB RUU first to get the HBOOT back?
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NP, good additional questions though, I installed the Telstra ICS HBOOT by re-locking the bootloader on my phone (because it was already rooted on GB) and then installing the telstra GB rom, then I upgraded to the Telstra ICS rom via the standard method from Telstra, then I re-unlocked the phone and re-flashed recovery and then I was ok for other ROM's, there's lots of ways to do it but this way is probably the most reliable.
other thing 1: there are no different Radio's yet, and we cannot flash them until we have "S-OFF" there are some private beta programs in the works to get S-OFF but until that is public we cannot adjust the firmware or radio, and even if we could there is no radio update available at this stage anyway.
Other thing 2: to go back to a GB rom, I would recommend relocking the bootloader and installing the GB RUU then going through the unlock/recovery installation again just to be safe, though I think you can just flash the GB HBOOT I'm not 100% on that method.
Hey, do you mean there are no separate Radio Roms to flash? Because i saw at the Stock Rom Collection that there are different Radio Roms included, aren't they?
I saw also that you are on the Rum Float Rom, can you tell me if there are any other languages included?
RumFloat B4 appears to support English, Spanish (Espanol) and French (Francais), I believe it uses the at&t rom as a base.
The radio's in the stock rom's are only flashable because they are part of an official secured ruu, without S-off they are useless to phones that are not from that telco.
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The CPU's are actually identical, they have different serial numbers to indicate the different modems, one has an internal modem on the chipset, the other has a modem attached elsewhere, the same drivers and such work for both so the difference is ignorable, the Vivid and Raider are underclocked to 1.2 by default however to save battery and for some reason the Velcity isn't perhaps for marketing reasons as its name "Velocity" would be stupid on a phone that is underclocked.
the ICS differences relate to something called the HBOOT, this is different for each device, but once your device has the ICS HBOOT it is perfectly fine to then flash any VIVID/RAIDER/VELOCITY rom on any device by first fastboot flashing the boot.img then flashing the rom .zip via recovery, this is a 2 step process so far because we don't have S-OFF... yet.
I have a HTC Velocity and have gone through pretty much all of the GB/ICS flashing scenarios and provided you read the instructions properly, which I have, I have not had any issues flashing the telstra roms, the at&t roms, the rum raider roms or what I am using now PirateGhosts RumFloat Beta4, which is no longer hosted on XDA due to a falling out, but google it and you can find it pretty easily, I will probably stick with RumFloat until CM9/MIUI is available.
PM me with any questions specifically about the Velocity and I can help you out mate
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Great post, thanks for that, I'm in the same boat. Gonna try your mod, battery life is aweful...
davidcampbell said:
The CPU's are actually identical, they have different serial numbers to indicate the different modems, one has an internal modem on the chipset, the other has a modem attached elsewhere, the same drivers and such work for both so the difference is ignorable, the Vivid and Raider are underclocked to 1.2 by default however to save battery and for some reason the Velcity isn't perhaps for marketing reasons as its name "Velocity" would be stupid on a phone that is underclocked.
the ICS differences relate to something called the HBOOT, this is different for each device, but once your device has the ICS HBOOT it is perfectly fine to then flash any VIVID/RAIDER/VELOCITY rom on any device by first fastboot flashing the boot.img then flashing the rom .zip via recovery, this is a 2 step process so far because we don't have S-OFF... yet.
I have a HTC Velocity and have gone through pretty much all of the GB/ICS flashing scenarios and provided you read the instructions properly, which I have, I have not had any issues flashing the telstra roms, the at&t roms, the rum raider roms or what I am using now PirateGhosts RumFloat Beta4, which is no longer hosted on XDA due to a falling out, but google it and you can find it pretty easily, I will probably stick with RumFloat until CM9/MIUI is available.
PM me with any questions specifically about the Velocity and I can help you out mate
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Good post, I'm currently using my spare HTC Flyer because I've got my completely wiped Velocity only with Bootloader and Recovery on it at the moment. Still deciding what to load and wondering if other ROM's from other phones will work.
Also does my head in that it's called 3 different things in different parts of the world. One thing I'm sure of that I hate the Telstra stock rom and I think the name "Velocity" refers to how fast the battery is drained when in use
Will keep an eye on this thread and looks like I might give the RumFloat image a go...
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Yeah hi, I flashed my Velocity 4G with Leigh's Nightly build 4 and it works great beside that it has no keyboard installed..
Wondering where the custom ROM are hiding and the stock Telstra ROM, cos i can only make calls on it atm, :/ fancy that a phone that can only make calls,, haha.. seriously I kinda need the links please,, (at least its not bricked, Pheww)
UPDATE..
I tried the Stock ROM again,, it also failed,, so I factory reset thru HBOOT and low n Behold the V2 wallpaper popped up and viola, keyboard works and the Build4 ROM works like a treat.. I love the smoothness and the goodies Leigh has included.. Adblock fo1.
probably a good idea to include this in the noob files. :/