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Now that the kernel source is available, won't we be able to overclock our mobiles?
Guess i got a little bit envious with all the overclocking that has being going on with other phones.
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A bit of using search never really hurt anyone before...
So is it possible yet.
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Been possible for last 3months. Just find a kernel with oc support and get setcpu. Frankly its not worth it as setcpu is a piece of **** app that make your system unstable. As other poster said. Do a damn search
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ickyboo said:
Been possible for last 3months. Just find a kernel with oc support and get setcpu. Frankly its not worth it as setcpu is a piece of **** app that make your system unstable. As other poster said. Do a damn search
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But for froyo? Maybe is asking for it.
maybe someone with the tallents could have a look into this OC method they use for droid x and milestone using a kernel module, this would enable us to overclock any froyo kernel.
http://androidforums.com/droid-2-al...d-2-overclock-kernel-module-instructions.html
It would be nice to have it in the kernel. 100 to 1200 that the system controlling like it already do. No setcpu crap.
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ickyboo said:
Been possible for last 3months. Just find a kernel with oc support and get setcpu. Frankly its not worth it as setcpu is a piece of **** app that make your system unstable. As other poster said. Do a damn search
Yes for froyo and don't be so damn rude Muppet.
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also setcpu is not to blame for the problems, as it runs just well on galaxy i7500 for overclocking. i´m not sure what the problem wit it is on SGS, but i´m pretty its not setcpu´s fault
FadeFx said:
also setcpu is not to blame for the problems, as it runs just well on galaxy i7500 for overclocking. i´m not sure what the problem wit it is on SGS, but i´m pretty its not setcpu´s fault
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The problem is that SGS doesn't like different CPU governors! It will only work if you don't touch the governor settings! At least that is what I have found to work in the Eclair builds!
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also setcpu is not to blame for the problems, as it runs just well on galaxy i7500 for overclocking. i´m not sure what the problem wit it is on SGS, but i´m pretty its not setcpu´s fault
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Seems ignorance is bliss for some of our fellow xda folks. SetCPU is not even needed for those oc kernels unless you want to change scaling from default schema. It really don't contribute to the unstablity, just that the kernels seemed inefficient.
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OrionBG said:
The problem is that SGS doesn't like different CPU governors! It will only work if you don't touch the governor settings! At least that is what I have found to work in the Eclair builds!
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I agree. Don't install SetCPU and the kernel is reasonably stable, but crashes miserably when running cup intensive apps. We have to work harder developing a kernel which works well for our hardware.
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Prankey said:
I agree. Don't install SetCPU and the kernel is reasonably stable, but crashes miserably when running cup intensive apps. We have to work harder developing a kernel which works well for our hardware.
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kernel was very much stable. It is just that hummingbird is bad for overclocking. Not all phones can be overclocked, sadly.
dupel said:
kernel was very much stable. It is just that hummingbird is bad for overclocking. Not all phones can be overclocked, sadly.
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I can understand what you are suggesting, however why was it still unstable when I tried to disable 1.2GHz or 1.13GHz frequency keeping the original scaling and running at 1GHz or less??
Is that 0.2 bump really noticeable?
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Is that 0.2 bump really noticeable?
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I think 20% is noticable difference. Especially when using that crap of a browser we have.
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I can understand what you are suggesting, however why was it still unstable when I tried to disable 1.2GHz or 1.13GHz frequency keeping the original scaling and running at 1GHz or less??
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dont know which version you used.
1.13 was quite old. All recent versions were 1.2. Anyway, nevermind =)
Yeah, do want a OC'able kernel - the 1.2GHz kernels for Éclair were always stable enough for me if I didn't try to UV it.
Id be open to using a 1.2Ghz OC if its 100% stable and no wake-up bugs and ofcourse should not affect the life of my CPU that much and should not drain my battery more than 10% faster
I just installed voodoo and then used oclf, but now my accelerometer is all jacked up, anyone else have this problem or know a way to fix it?
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InobleI said:
I just installed voodoo and then used oclf, but now my accelerometer is all jacked up, anyone else have this problem or know a way to fix it?
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Stupid question but why would you put oclf over voodoo
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I saw it on a forum, and after I did it it went from a quadrant score of 1600 to 2300, so it works but the only thing that doesn't work is my accelerometer
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What Rom are you on? The only suggestion I can make is to remove one of the Lagfix. Or flash back stock. I would search the thread or even just Google your problem. Someone may of had the same issue and found a way to fix
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You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're a troll and you didn't really put OCLF on top of voodoo.
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That was a sarcastic way of saying take one of the lagfixes off.
Plus it doesn't help
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I'll show you the thread, I just followed directions.
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Don't put OCLF on top of anything.
If you're interested in something faster than voodoo, check out SetiroN's kernel and/or the ROM's that use it. Such as in my sig.
What's the quadrant score on that?
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Quadrant score has nothing to do with how it performs.
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Don't put OCLF on top of anything.
If you're interested in something faster than voodoo, check out SetiroN's kernel and/or the ROM's that use it. Such as in my sig.
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The last two lagfix options in SetitoN's (or stutzy's) kernel are basically the same thing as oclf over top of voodoo - though the on only thing that would be good for is quadrant scores, won't really notice much of a real world performance dif. And that kind of lagfix combo is really going to cut into your available space on your data partition.
Then what would you recommend performance wise
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Honestly you sound like a noob and SetiroN's kernel requires a certain skill level to install / debug because it is still in alpha stages.
Just stick with Cognition if you want my advice. It is plenty fast, has a great battery life, and automatically works with Voodoo. And it is fairly stable. OCLF on top of it will not help.
In my experience SetiroN's kernel has better performance but takes a cut in the battery life and also has some wierd bugs.. you don't have full functionality in every way... lots of people like it... but if you want my recommendation it's going to be a lot of work for you so go with Cog instead. if you go with setiroN expect to put in a number of hours learning how to get it working.. and expect a few people on that thread (not setiroN) to flame you if you post a question about hwo to get it working. last night there was a lot of drama. larger point is you will probably get criticized there from a few bad apples.
I am a noob, but I can figure stuff out, I'll give it a try. Thanks.
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Then what would you recommend performance wise
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I am currently running Cog rom SetiroN's kernel with jfs advanced all jfs lagfix and I am happy with my phone's performance.
Don't know if this is the best performance or not as that is somewhat subjective as to what will rework best for every one on their own phone with their own configuration.
My recommendation is run what you want to run on your phone. If quad scores are important oclf type lagfix's that make some type of buffer that sets on top the data partition will always outperform in the quad's input/out bench mark and get overall better quad scores, but the buffer wil take up valuable space on your data partition.
The only way you can know for sure what works best for you is to try them out, do some actual time trials and stress tests with the apps you use and pick which one you like best.
What ever lagfix you choose make sure you know how to properly disable it when needed before you actually install that lagfix.
Ok cool, I really like cog ill try putting SetrioN kernel on it, thanks man
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InobleI said:
Ok cool, I really like cog ill try putting SetrioN kernel on it, thanks man
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Just my 2 cents but make sure you read up and understand Setroin before you flash it
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Cog 2.2
Yup just did, I gave cog with SetrioN
Kernel, its working out great so far, thanks a lot.
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Can someone enumerate the differences between these two kernels? As far as I can understand, they're essentially the same other than calling the lagfix by a different name.
Also, please put forth which one you would recommend that I use. Thanks!
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Nobody can tell you which will provide the best result on your phone. Most make the determination based on the effect they have on battery which can be very different, even with all else seemingly being equal. Flashing kernels is really a painless process only requiring a few minutes of your time so I suggest that you experiment and find what works best for you.
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IMO firebird 2 is a tad faster and uses more battery. So depending on what you want I guess.
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You have to try them yourself to see what works best for your phone. They are both great kernels but I prefer Firebird 2 personally.
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Can someone enumerate the differences between these two kernels? As far as I can understand, they're essentially the same other than calling the lagfix by a different name.
Also, please put forth which one you would recommend that I use. Thanks!
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I tried both and prefer speedmod. Firebird was a bit faster for me but also drained my battery faster. I currently use speedmod with Cezar's rom and its a match made in heaven. Fast and awesome battery.
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Speedmod also tends to stay a little more updated than firebird.
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Speedmod also tends to stay a little more updated than firebird.
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"little more" does not convey full justice. its more like "timely updates whenever an issue and/or improvements are found".
Ok, I'll give SpeedMod a shot. I should be able to switch back and forth easily if I have both CWM zips on my phone, I take it?
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i really prefer glitterball reoriented even with overclocking disabled to both of those roms.
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i really prefer glitterball reoriented even with overclocking disabled to both of those roms.
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I concur. Battery life is outstanding with overclocking disabled and undervolting enabled.
I have noticed that when I click a button, I usually have to wait from 1-2 seconds before I get a response. Would lagfix take care of this? I'm running stock Froyo.
As many have stated all the lagfix does is help fix the very slow rts file system, it most likely would not help in your case.
Best thing to do is delete unused apps, and reboot the phone every day or to(seems to help mine out, cant guarantee results)
Also if you havent needed root in 5 months you probably don't need it
Unless you want to use opitimised roms, I dont see why you would need to root. Check your memory usage delete unused apps and reboot the phone ever once in a while.
My honest opinion, no reason to have an android phone if you are not using roms
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mcord11758 said:
My honest opinion, no reason to have an android phone if you are not using roms
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Gonna have to agree with mcord here. had to go back to stock froyo for about 5 hours (didnt have all my tool to get back my 2.3.4 ROM) and it was horrible.
you might not be up for it but i really recommend flashing a Froyo Custom ROM from one of the xda DEVs. you'll love your phone and be amazed that it can be so much smoother and responsive.
First thing I did after i rooted was flashed a new kernel to overclock. Performance increased but battery life was poor. Then my first rom was cm7..been hooked since..tried miui once then went back to cm7.
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This is what lagfix can do for your phone.
Im using stock mosaic V 2.3.4 rom with no overclock.
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Providing arbitrary benchmarks does not seem like an actual reason to employ a lag fix.
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Providing arbitrary benchmarks does not seem like an actual reason to employ a lag fix.
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No a Benchmark score is not the best example to lag fix your phone ,but the more power you get, plus better battery life and, better perrformance are great reasons to lag fix your phone. I just posted the quadrant score so kb0npw can see the increase performance from normal rfs file system to ext4(lag fix).
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godpancho said:
This is what lagfix can do for your phone.
Im using stock mosaic V 2.3.4 rom with no overclock.
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Lol people always thinking benchmarks scores mean everything
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Lol people always thinking benchmarks scores mean everything
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I dont think he thought it meant everything, he was giving a simple before and after which showed some improvement. Quadrant can actually be pretty useful when trying to gauge what effects certain changes have on your phone, say you score a 1900 before you change 'x' and then 2200 after that change, then you know its increased performance somewhat and youre moving in the right direction. How much it has increased your performance is debatable, however. My point is quadrant can be a useful tool when making changes on your phone if you take it with a grain of salt.
EDIT: To answer op's question, Read up on some custom roms and flash one, the difference is phenomenal and you'll wonder how you went 5 months without them. If you have any other questions feel free to pm me and I'll see what help I can be
Which one do you recommend? Any reviews out there?
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Which one do you recommend? Any reviews out there?
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last i read, speedmod is not fully geared for daily, so how to compare?
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Today I have tested both (on LPY German firmware).
All in all, at the moment I prefer Speedmod, which looks smoother.
In the morning I have used Franco kernel, but two times it happened that my device got slower and slower until rebooted. I had also several lags.
In the afternoon I installed Speedmod, when I saw there was a second version (which includes CWM). No lags, no slowdowns so far.
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On the 2 latest kernels, l get higher scores in antutu and quadrant using franco kernel.
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Have used speedmod and franco on stock lpf for me franco broke my wifi connection there's a workaround for this which is to se your phone is statically and not via dhcp
On speedmod my wifi works though haven't tested the latest one
I then decided just to go back to stock
Both sort of claim to had fix the brick bug issue thought they do say they need more evidence that is fix. But as of now there has been only one brick on franco but further analysis is needed to confirm
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Both are good
atm using franco's kernel. its smooth and no problems at all.
Im on kingdroid v2 using apex launcher
I am using Franco right now, seems responsive
But there's no overclock capability in the voltage control app.
Anyone has luck playing with the oc uv
comparing benchmark tests scores, franco kernel wins, but comparing reality score speedmod kernel wins for sure. I get low score with speedmod kernel but it is the most smoothest, bug-free ics kernel so far. Dont look at those benchmark test ^^
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Which one do you recommend? Any reviews out there?
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Basically, you're asking the users out there do you prefer blonde or dark hair girl?
one man's meat maybe another man's poison. You gotta try it on you own to feel it.
what about this kernel under LFP?
Speedmod on stockrom. Read to many issues with Francos for now. For the rest, like comment above its a matter of preference
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My mhl was not working on speedmod. Is anyone else having this issue?
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My mhl was not working on speedmod. Is anyone else having this issue?
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Would like to know as well. Also, on fransisco kernel, I get pretty good battery life, anyone care to mention how the battery life is on speedmod
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Would like to know as well. Also, on fransisco kernel, I get pretty good battery life, anyone care to mention how the battery life is on speedmod
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Better then stock, much better
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My mhl was not working on speedmod. Is anyone else having this issue?
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Post it as an issue in speedmod thread
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baz77 said:
Post it as an issue in speedmod thread
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Already did.
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Would like to know as well. Also, on fransisco kernel, I get pretty good battery life, anyone care to mention how the battery life is on speedmod
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Same great battery life, both are great, cant tell the difference
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Would like to know as well. Also, on fransisco kernel, I get pretty good battery life, anyone care to mention how the battery life is on speedmod
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Both are good, however Speedmod is slightly better with LPF. (IMHO) Franco has more bells and whistles, but Speedmod seems to be a little more stable based on the apps that I have and my usage patterns. My advise is to try both, but please follow the installation process to the letter. A few times I've done what I thought was best with flashing kernels, but actually ended up wiping/re-flashing etc and then following the instructions to the letter with success.
Latest... Tried Franco #4.... Now as good as Speedmod, if not better.
Been on franco for a few days now ... everything is smooth so far.
It seems like speedmod is alot smoother than franco, even though Franco scores higher in benchmark tests.
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