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2.1 general help (dont troll random threads come here instead)

Before this gets started let me say I'm not a developer in no way I just feel I know quite a bit about most of the 2.1 roms floating around so if you have probs. Post here and somebody is bound to help you ill try my best with the little amount of knowledge I have

there are already 1000 2.1 help threads man!

I know man I just don't get y people are still absolutely molesting all the other threads tht have nothing to do at all with there probs.

bcnice20 said:
I know man I just don't get y people are still absolutely molesting all the other threads tht have nothing to do at all with there probs.
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same thing with making a new thread instead of having the people address their problem in the rom their running thread huh

Sprint TV
bcnice20 said:
Before this gets started let me say I'm not a developer in no way I just feel I know quite a bit about most of the 2.1 roms floating around so if you have probs. Post here and somebody is bound to help you ill try my best with the little amount of knowledge I have
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OK, I'm game. Normally, I've been on here a couple of months and am pretty good about just finding my answers via search, but no luck on this one. Maybe I am just lost in the huge number of posts in the DamageControl thread.
I've been on DamageControl since last Friday. I read about ESPN coming to Sprint TV, so I decided to reinstall Sprint TV and see how it looked.
I grabbed the apk from Flipz prekitchen and used the package installer on my phone to reinstall. Sprint TV worked fine. Then I opened it again up later to show my wife, and I got an error message "You must be a Sprint customer to use this application." Eventually, I tried uninstalling Sprint TV and reinstalling it. It worked on the first try again, but again, later tries gave me the "You must be a Sprint customer..."
Ideas?

damage isnt actually a sprint rom its a verizion rom so more then likely thats the problem and really wont be fixed till we have a sprint 2.1 release it might work on the legend roms though thats worth a try

702DROID said:
same thing with making a new thread instead of having the people address their problem in the rom their running thread huh
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its all about ease of ascess man one thread with mad problems is much better then spreading the problems out amongst multiple rom/custimaztion/literally every thread you can think of

Froyo that works????

Has anyone made a froyo build for the cdma Hero in which everything is working? If not then why not the source has been out for awhile now so whats up peeps. Any links to all builds? ANY i said. And im not complaining just tired of searching through threads, and i have an EVO but i like my hero just the same.

Why haven't YOU made one yet?
I don't get people that make posts like this.

nope...good luck

vinny8030 said:
Has anyone made a froyo build for the cdma Hero in which everything is working? If not then why not the source has been out for awhile now so whats up peeps. Any links to all working builds?
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Wow. Really?

exactly..lol I mean if u really want one dont complain..go build it yourself.. or keep quiet. be patient like the rest of us. and go support darch for even trying to get a froyo build to us hero users!!
Be glad we still have a few devs around to keep us hero users going for awhile.. since most have jumped ship to the evo etc.... so show some support etc if not guess u could alway go get a evo,lol

Oh man guys, he's right... I mean, it's not like devs have been working hard on giving us FroYo already... they should listen to this guy!
Really though, OP... this has got to be one of the most ungrateful posts I've read yet. If Darch the rest could give us a fully working 2.2 right now, they would... They're working hard on it, and they provide these roms to us for FREE. And then you came in here and basically clapped your hands twice and said "chop chop!"
Just be patient, and maybe a bit more respectful.

vinny8030 said:
Has anyone made a froyo build for the cdma Hero in which everything is working? If not then why not the source has been out for awhile now so whats up peeps. Any links to all working builds?
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seriously?? you made a thread to ask this question..
1. we have a Q&A section, and this isn't it..
2. sense u are in this section, did it not occur to you to check the available ROM's for ur answer???
by the way, to the others that have commented.. i don't think this guy even knows theres a froyo version out at all.. i don't think hes tryna speed darch up or anything.. i just think he hasn't checked this forum for much of anything.

A huge part of it is that they aren't porting it - they're actually using the source files to build it for the Hero.

Darch and company are building the 2.2 rom from the ground up so there are issues being ironed out. The current 2.2 version is RC0 (Release Candidate Zero) aka its in beta meaning its open to download and use but please either help fix the bugs or at the very least report them. This is how we the users can help move collectively towards a bug free froyo release.

Wow negativity!!
I think some of you people missunderstand the point of this post. Its not to complain but to get some links all in one place for anyone who has built a Froyo for the hero. And to awnser the smartassed remark i havent built one because i dont know how. I am a mechanic and amateur computer builder.
Sorry for any confusion, just want one place for the links instead of needing to search through all the threads to find them.

bk718 said:
seriously?? you made a thread to ask this question..
1. we have a Q&A section, and this isn't it..
2. sense u are in this section, did it not occur to you to check the available ROM's for ur answer???
by the way, to the others that have commented.. i don't think this guy even knows theres a froyo version out at all.. i don't think hes tryna speed darch up or anything.. i just think he hasn't checked this forum for much of anything.
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This isnt Q&A its a place for LINKS to any Froyo builds. I repeat ANY builds.

Ok dude, I guess I see what you were TRYING to ask/say/organize, but you did it in a real Asshattery way.
What you should have said was "Please All Devs put your FroYo Links Here"
With a message that should have said "Due to the threads bouncing around the forum, sometimes it's kind of hard to see all the options so I figure we should have links to these threads in one spot and we could make this thread a sticky".
It's no secret these devs (even though I claim one rom, I am NOT a dev. I am a kitchen user) bust their ass and take pride in the work they have accomplished making these froyo builds with no monetary gain except that they can reap the fruits of their work in using their own builds.
I know if it were me then I would have jumped the gun and taken offense and honestly I am surprised that there were not a flood of flame posts here because of it.

http://darchroms.pocketdevelopers.com/cm/willeaturcat.zip
report issues and join in on the testing like we all are darchstar is almost there

what is that willeatyourcat.zip ? is that RC0 ?

RC1
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA App

Okay, As of now Darch's 2.2 builds are in beta. That being said they are not be posted on xda by him (just guessing here) because if he did, THOUSANDS of people would post useless questions and turn the thread into a joke.
Be patient, and wait for a final to get posted.
Or, get on the IRC channel and help test the current builds.....
My 2 cents.

I think we should give darch some $$ or petition Google to do so OR (if you can) give him a secure job providing these generous updates!
What's the incentive otherwise? This isn't OUR work.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

who says "peeps" anymore or ever?

I do when I feel like typing peeps instead of 'persons I know'
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

thatguythatdid said:
who says "peeps" anymore or ever?
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Ummm I say peeps every year around Easter, as in Marshmallow Peeps. YUMMMMM

[Q] Hey Devs, whatcha gonna do with the new Froyo source?

Unless I'm mistaken, there now is only one Dev out there that has stuck by Captivate code. As someone who places a high value on the Audience voice chip on the AT&T devices, I am very interested to see if more devs will look at this newly released source and make something of it, either new or port their existing top-notch work. I've tried, and liked, many of the I9000-based ROMs, but I keep coming back to the Cappy-based ones due to the voice quality.
So Devs... any interest? I'm sure that I'm not alone from a user perspective.

I would like to see a kernal based off the released source that also has the voodoo sound added to it. I am sure there is a lot that can be done and it will take some time.

I was thinking of flashing to something new, but with the source available, I think it's time to be patient. Can't wait for a semi-up to date ROM with full captivate compatibility!

this belongs in Q&A section

I believe whole heartedly that the ROMS the DEVs are putting out are fantastic and do everything I want and need in a ROM.
OTHER then the audiance chip support. It would be cool to have in the roms as an ability but not necessarily required.

See sig below - this post doesnt belong here. *facepalm* The devs will do what they do, when they decide they wanna do it - noobs coming in here constantly asking for sh*t only irritates them and pushes them away from bringing us the good stuff....

bames said:
this belongs in Q&A section
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I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?

Devs still read the Q&A - how about reading the forum rules and abiding.... this is un-needed clutter in the Dev section

dalewest said:
I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
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Regardless, if you feel the need to post about this topic in this section, there is already a thread about it. Post your question in there. No need for another thread.

jgc121 said:
See sig below - this post doesnt belong here. *facepalm* The devs will do what they do, when they decide they wanna do it - noobs coming in here constantly asking for sh*t only irritates them and pushes them away from bringing us the good stuff....
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Not trying to start a flamewar or anything... while I only joined last November, and my post count is indeed low, please don't assume that I'm here asking for candy. I comb these forums many times daily, and only post when I can't find the answers I'm looking for.
As for irritating the devs by asking for stuff... I've noticed that for the most part, they actually like the feedback, and want to know what the users like. I see no problem with providing input. Like I said, I posted here because the Devs come here, and not so much to the Q&A section.
Lastly (and maybe this should have been clearer in my OP), only one dev seems to be working on Captivate kernels, with the rest working on I9000 (since source has been around a long while). What with new hardware around the corner, dev interest for the Cappy might be waning. I thought it a fair question.

dalewest said:
I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
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No..does not make sense. If you read the forum rules it will be clear why it doesn't make sense.
Not trying to start a flame war either was just trying to redirect you and prevent further endless flaming if you continued to post in the wrong section.

Last thing I wanted was to tick people off
But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
Out.

dalewest said:
I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
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So just coz it says "Hey devs" means it should go to the Dev section?
I thought the development section was actually for development... Apparently I was wrong
uuugh..

bames said:
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Agree completely!! Dev(s) do read other forums

I have question about the source code that was just released. How do I implement it into my build enviroment?
I mean ok I extract the file. Then read the readme file. It says to overwrite the modules I want to build. Is there a general rule to what should and should not be over written. I have compiled the generic code but nothing device specific.

OMG! You DARE to post here?
dalewest said:
But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
Out.
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LOL. No apologies needed. This thread that you started is essentially the same as opcow's, except that he posted the news before you did. All that followed in his thread, however, was very similar to the responses in your thread.
Similar, but different - different because the hall monitors didn't flame anyone in that thread! Why not?? Because, methinks, for the most part, those in the other thread were more "senior" than thee, Mr. Dalewest. Get it? There's a pecking order here that must not be violated.
Strange, but I didn't notice any ROM devs complaining in your thread or Opcow's. I did, however, see some silliniess in the other thread, such as "Charlie Sheen throwing some pixie dust" into the new ROMs, but no cries of outrage over that. Then come some self-appointed spokespersons for the devs in your thread saying the devs this, the devs that, "Ooh, the devs are going to get upset," etc. [Sigh]
The source of KB1 dropping has been mentioned since yesterday or before in various threads here, and I didn't see any devs getting upset about it. The KB1 source dropping is certainly related to development. IMO it's perfectly fine to post it in Development. Your are not asking a general question - you are asking what the devs have in mind vis a vis development, now that KB1 has dropped.
That said, given that there was already another thread, you shouldn't have started another one. Consider your wrist slapped, ha, ha.

dalewest said:
But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
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no worries.
not ticked here. my original post was just to redirect you and try to help you avoid the flood of responses and/or flames that were sure to come.

[Q] How are others dealing with the loss of BLN in CM7? Other visual notifications?

Hi
Soooo I've just setup a Captivate with CM7 and find it pretty slick, but one thing that REALLY bugs me (and I wonder how it's not bugging others too) is the loss of BLN notifications. I hate having to turn on my screen just to check for a new msg/alert and BLN was great at providing a quick visual cue of something waiting on the phone. How do others deal with not having BLN...is there some other app (other then NoLED) that achieves something similar...or is 'just deal with it' the standard response to this? I see a user by the name of kang has done some custom CM7 kernels but these are all for voodoo sound AFAIK. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Jason

It would be nice to have but for obvious reasons its not high on the priority list compared to other needed fixes
CM7

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.

flashman2002 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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Funny how some people justify the flaws of CM7. You have a smart phone thats sole purpose is to keep you in constant touch with the online world, yet you say the lack of BLN is your way to get away from it. Like you can't just put it down and not look at it, lol.

axis01 said:
Funny how some people justify the flaws of CM7. You have a smart phone thats sole purpose is to keep you in constant touch with the online world, yet you say the lack of BLN is your way to get away from it. Like you can't just put it down and not look at it, lol.
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I didn't see anyone justifying a "flaw". if you flash cm7 & don't know bln is not an option at the moment, well reading must not be a strong suit.
BLN does not rank high on the priority list of either the cm7 devs or the devs making kernels. Since it is a beta and there are many compatibility issues between the nexus s and the captivate, such as no ext sd in nexus s, more important things are being worked on.
To throw in there, that cm7 has several features (many of which are much more useful than bln) in it that none of the 2.2 or 2.2.1 , roms have. The fact that they dont have the features are not "flaws". Just differences
CM7

axis01 said:
Funny how some people justify the flaws of CM7. You have a smart phone thats sole purpose is to keep you in constant touch with the online world, yet you say the lack of BLN is your way to get away from it. Like you can't just put it down and not look at it, lol.
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Uhhh...just because I have a smart phone does t make it my sole purpose for staying in touch. Your priorities must be skewed a bit on what "I" do with "my" phone. And highlight where I was defending cm7 and its flaws? Pointing out the proper thread to post in? No. Saying the op should have read before flashing? No. Stating that I have sound notification and the lack of bln keeps me from checking my phone when I get a message? No. Hmmm...strange. Why do you defend the need for bln considering the captivate went months without it...and for the longest period No led was the best option available. Sorry for not needing an option of little importance to me.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine

flashman2002 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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Woah, at no point in time did I say I was forced into flashing CM7, nor did I state that I wasn't fully aware of the lack of BLN support...I was simply opening a discussion on how others handle not having a proper LED and now not having BLN...like in your case, you just dont care, fine, that's one valid solution. Another might be to just turn up the audio notification volume very high. I was hoping for some application suggestions, like perhaps one that would do recurring audio notifications until it was acknowledged or something...you know, discussion without picking about and posturing...sorry for being so confused about the nature of this forum.
And I figured and read multiple times that BLN wasn't a core concern for the devs, but I'm sure a number of us users would like to see it...that's all...and I did give props to CM7 right off the hop in my OP, no?
Cheers to those who get it.
J

grasshands said:
Woah, at no point in time did I say I was forced into flashing CM7, nor did I state that I wasn't fully aware of the lack of BLN support...I was simply opening a discussion on how others handle not having a proper LED and now not having BLN...like in your case, you just dont care, fine, that's one valid solution. Another might be to just turn up the audio notification volume very high. I was hoping for some application suggestions, like perhaps one that would do recurring audio notifications until it was acknowledged or something...you know, discussion without picking about and posturing...sorry for being so confused about the nature of this forum.
And I figured and read multiple times that BLN wasn't a core concern for the devs, but I'm sure a number of us users would like to see it...that's all...and I did give props to CM7 right off the hop in my OP, no?
Cheers to those who get it.
J
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First, you didn't really need to create a new thread on a topic that has been discussed before. Second, if you need light notification get that app I mentioned in my second post (No LED). I don't use it anymore so I can't say for sure if it works with Gingerbread. It worked just fine when I was on Froyo. I am not posturing anything, just informing you about a Q&A thread that you should have posted in. I am glad you did read the thread and you had expectations of what was working and not working. If I seem like I am posturing that's ok, just helping you understand how some threads pop up when they really don't need to be. Try out No LED as I think that is the main option still available for lack of BLN.
Edit: I never said you were forced to flash CM7 as you said. I said you didn't need to flash CM7 knowing what worked and didn't work. I just don't understand starting a thread on a topic which has been known; you clearly stated you read the issues with CM7 and still flashed. It doesn't make any sense honestly. Tell me what I am missing here?

flashman2002 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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And just because we're all playing so nice...nowhere in that link is BLN specifically mentioned.
Just saying....
Thanks
J

flashman2002 said:
First, you didn't really need to create a new thread on a topic that has been discussed before. Second, if you need light notification get that app I mentioned in my second post (No LED). I don't use it anymore so I can't say for sure if it works with Gingerbread. It worked just fine when I was on Froyo. I am not posturing anything, just informing you about a Q&A thread that you should have posted in. I am glad you did read the thread and you had expectations of what was working and not working. If I seem like I am posturing that's ok, just helping you understand how some threads pop up when they really don't need to be. Try out No LED as I think that is the main option still available for lack of BLN.
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Yes, I would have loved to post in the Q&A thread, but due to new user restrictions, I was not able to and thus I posted in this, the Q&A forum.
I believe I mentioned specifically against NoLED as I've tried it as one possible solution and didn't really like it...but I didn't say it wasn't valid by any means and again, thanks for a suggestion.
Thanks.
J

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And just because we're all playing so nice...nowhere in that link is BLN specifically mentioned.
Just saying....
Thanks
J
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You will learn eventually. What do you think Q&A means? This is not the only thread that talks about CM7 IE: Dev thread. The Q&A thread is used for questions and answers. So if it isn't in that thread because you finally searched, maybe you would have asked about BLN and options as a replacement. I gave you a link to where this thread and question should have been asked! Got it yet?

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Edit: I never said you were forced to flash CM7 as you said. I said you didn't need to flash CM7 knowing what worked and didn't work. I just don't understand starting a thread on a topic which has been known; you clearly stated you read the issues with CM7 and still flashed. It doesn't make any sense honestly. Tell me what I am missing here?
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What you're missing is the fact that I wasn't bashing CM7, or complaining, but opening a discussion, with the other users of CM7 and the captivate in general, on how they handle notifications...

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You will learn eventually. What do you think Q&A means? This is not the only thread that talks about CM7 IE: Dev thread. The Q&A thread is used for questions and answers. So if it isn't in that thread because you finally searched, maybe you would have asked about BLN and options as a replacement. I gave you a link to where this thread and question should have been asked! Got it yet?
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Ok thankyou.

grasshands said:
What you're missing is the fact that I wasn't bashing CM7, or complaining, but opening a discussion, with the other users of CM7 and the captivate in general, on how they handle notifications...
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This is my last post in your thread. Again you put words in my mouth. I didn't say you bashed CM7 and I am not defending CM7. I am giving you the proper forum for asking your question. That is why there is a Q&A thread for CM7. No offense to you but you obviously don't understand my intent which was to inform you first that there was a better thread for asking your question. Second was to see why you flashed when it has been known that BLN was not compatible with CM7.
Yes, the Q&A thread does not mention BLN. It has been discussed in the Dev thread. By asking your question in the Q&A thread you would have posted in the proper location and still got answers. Sorry for being forum police but that is how it works with forums. Hopefully you will see I am not trying to be an ass and I get what you were wanting, and I gave you a possible solution that I personally have not tried since Froyo. (No LED). Give it a shot.

Sorry for the negative Nelly's
I think that in all the hustle and bustle to iron out technical difficulties and the like the ultimate goal is often lost. Creating an open and effective operating environment for mobile devices that benefits the user and facilitates quick and effective communication with the development team and those who use the software on a daily basis.
If you have not already found a solution, I have the same desire for BLN on Cyanogen. I found that using another Kernel that sits on top of Cyanogen provides that functionality as well as CPU overclocking. I like Le Kernel Du Jour for example and it can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982337
I hope this was helpful.

grasshands said:
Yes, I would have loved to post in the Q&A thread, but due to new user restrictions, I was not able to and thus I posted in this, the Q&A forum.
J
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Just as a clarification for anyone else reading this thread, there are no restrictions for posting in the Q&A subforum or in any of its stickies. This should have been in the CM7 sticky from the beginning and there's no excuse as to why it wasn't. The Development subforum is the only one with any restrictions.

Miami_Son said:
Just as a clarification for anyone else reading this thread, there are no restrictions for posting in the Q&A subforum or in any of its stickies. This should have been in the CM7 sticky from the beginning and there's no excuse as to why it wasn't. The Development subforum is the only one with any restrictions.
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Half of the spam generated on this forum is from people telling the op why they need to search more or post in a different section. Let the mods sort it out and spend your time with constructive posts.
I for one missed bln when I had cm7 but it was never a game changer for me
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crystalhand said:
Half of the spam generated on this forum is from people telling the op why they need to search more or post in a different section. Let the mods sort it out and spend your time with constructive posts.
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A. The mods can't be everywhere all the time.
B. Educating the noobs and keeping the forum tidy is not SPAM.
C. The mods appreciate the help.

[Q] Non-rooted Update for AT&T Cappy?

I posted this in the General forum & it was promptly closed & I was asked to search in this forum for an answer. Well, that didn't go so well as all I came up with was numerous posts of how to root my phone, which is exactly what I don't want to do. So, hopefully this will not be closed out as well.
I must admit that I tired of chasing AT&T & Samsung as to when the Gingerbread update would be available awhile back.
Then I saw an ad on TV that I'm pretty sure was for AT&T but another Android-based phone & they were hyping that the phone was equipped w/Android OS 4.0 so that it now rivaled the 'iCrap' phone.
Would someone please set me straight on which legit OS's have or are soon to be released () for the Cappy, or any new Samsung phone at that!
Thanks!

As far as Gingerbread for the Captivate well, Rogers released it for their i896 not to long ago, and so all we can do is hope for at&t to release it for us soon.
That's really all we know as far as the Captivate is concerned. This has been discussed over and over and that is why your previous thread was closed by the Forum Moderator.
As far as ICS...
Here ya go... http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ream-sandwich-for-galaxy-s-and-tab-after-all/
As far as other Samsung phones, it would probably be better to find info on that through Google as opposed to here in the Captivate Forums.

I just googled it and found an entire page of articles in the past month or so with exactly what you're looking for. So so so much easier than making a post.

http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ing-value-pack-instead-of-ice-cream-sandwich/

mbc663 said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ing-value-pack-instead-of-ice-cream-sandwich/
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Thanks much for the link, which was quite heavily redacted )). Your point is well taken about just doing a Google search than posting here. Besides, I don't need someone telling me to go searching through the forum posts as my question has been asked many times before. I used to have a friend connected w/XDA that I could PM for scoops & ask questions like I posted here & he was always happy to help. Unfortunately, he's gone missing!

No No XXX
If a thread gets closed, you don't open another one about it... -_-

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b-eock said:
If a thread gets closed, you don't open another one about it... -_-
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This is true.