So I have tried many times to restore my phone from a backup made by recovery manager, but it never seems to work. It will always make it to the desktop, but either restart constantly or everything will constantly crash making it unusable. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
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Is your back up the same base as what toy are on. Meaning 2.1 to 2.1. Are you trying to restore a stock backup over 2.2?
mcord11758 said:
Is your back up the same base as what toy are on. Meaning 2.1 to 2.1. Are you trying to restore a stock backup over 2.2?
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No. The ROM I was running when doing the backup was Serendipity 3.0. I flashed back to Serendipity 3.0, then ran my restore. Everything constantly crashes.
EDIT: I've found uninstalling and reinstalling the applications works, but then there's no point in making a nandroid backup. I might as well just flash back to the ROM I was on and use TiBu in that case.
Anyone else have any ideas?
I'd really like to experiment more with ROMs and custom projects, but I don't want to unless I can basically go back to what I had with one click.
Get titanium backup pro. lts $5, but well worth it. Everything restores with one click.
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sixstringsg said:
Get titanium backup pro. lts $5, but well worth it. Everything restores with one click.
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Yeah, I guess I'll just backup absolutely everything with TiBU Pro and keep the installation files around for each ROM, since CWM backups do not seem to work properly.
Auridran said:
Yeah, I guess I'll just backup absolutely everything with TiBU Pro and keep the installation files around for each ROM, since CWM backups do not seem to work properly.
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CWM backups work fine as long as you have matching firmware versions (2.1-2.1, 2.2-2.2, or 2.2.1-2.2.1)
also you need to be aware of lagfixes in the rom that you may currently be running, they are not always compatible between roms
nandroid does not backup your kernel or modem which is why you need to be moving within the same firmware versions
you cant make a stock nandroid backup, flash a 2.2 rom, then restore from that backup immediately. you will need to do a couple of things first.
keep a stock 2.1 cwm flashable kernel and modem on your sdcard
revert any lagfixes your phone may have prior to trying to restore your nandroid of stock
once lagfixes are removed, flash your kernel and modem (same firmware version as your nandroid backup)(its possible to have this set up within ONE zip file)
once you are rebooted back into CWM, restore your nandroid...reboot and profit
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CWM backups work fine as long as you have matching firmware versions (2.1-2.1, 2.2-2.2, or 2.2.1-2.2.1)
also you need to be aware of lagfixes in the rom that you may currently be running, they are not always compatible between roms
nandroid does not backup your kernel or modem which is why you need to be moving within the same firmware versions
you cant make a stock nandroid backup, flash a 2.2 rom, then restore from that backup immediately. you will need to do a couple of things first.
keep a stock 2.1 cwm flashable kernel and modem on your sdcard
revert any lagfixes your phone may have prior to trying to restore your nandroid of stock
once lagfixes are removed, flash your kernel and modem (same firmware version as your nandroid backup)(its possible to have this set up within ONE zip file)
once you are rebooted back into CWM, restore your nandroid...reboot and profit
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Well like I said, I made a backup on my Serendipity 3.0 ROM I had going, flashed to something else, then even flashed back to Serendipity 3.0 before restoring and it still didn't work properly. All the apps I had installed just force-closed until I reinstalled them, or force-closed somewhere during use.
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Silly noob-like question, but I wanted to make sure before I continued messing with my phone.
Does ROM Manager back up EVERYTHING on the phone? For example, I backup my rom. Move the backup file onto my pc. Then I screw around with roms, lag fixes, etc. and totally screw it up. If I "restore" the backup made by ROM Manager, will all my apps, settings, desktop, data files, etc be exactly as they were before I started screwing around?
Or, would I need to use Odin to load the same ROM as that which was backed up and then run Rom Manager Restore?
Thanks!
Yes it does
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Here's another question regarding this thread:
I have the lagfix mod which uses the internal sdcard. When I create a backup will it and restore exactly how it was including the lagfix partition? If yes, is it the same procedures or do I have to do it a different way with the extra partition?
Thanks in advance.
Deca4 said:
Here's another question regarding this thread:
I have the lagfix mod which uses the internal sdcard. When I create a backup will it and restore exactly how it was including the lagfix partition? If yes, is it the same procedures or do I have to do it a different way with the extra partition?
Thanks in advance.
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Actually I am trying to figure out the same thing. I made a backup before I started messing around with lag fixes, different roms and so forth. Then the other day I tried to restore a rom it didn't work. Eventually I soft bricked the phone and had to make the USB Jig to get it working again. Needless to say I am very intrigued with what exactly Rom Manager does backup and its limitations but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I am thinking the reason my backup was screwed up was because of a lag fix, only problem is I can't remember what lag fix I had on it when I did the initial recovery.
Something from my experience to add here:
Scenario 1:
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I backed up the original 2.1 JH7 on my phone.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM, and played around with it.
Backed up 2.2 ROM.
Messed up with my 2.2 custom ROM.
Went to ROM manager recovery, and recovered the backed up 2.1 JH7, and ended up messing up. My phone didn't even boot up.
Then I went back to recovery, and tried restoring the backed up version of 2.2.
Phone booted up into 2.2, but, started giving a lot of FCs.
Scenario 2:
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Installed 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Backed it up.
Messed it.
Restored it - worked fine.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM 2.
Backed it up.
Restored the 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Everything working fine.
Looks like as long as the core OS is of the same version, it seems to work.
Maybe there is something in the boot sequence that's probably not being restored (???)
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Edit: I do not have CWM app installed. I use the CWM update.zip recovery manager since its the least intrusive way.
diablo009 said:
Something from my experience to add here:
Scenario 1:
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I backed up the original 2.1 JH7 on my phone.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM, and played around with it.
Backed up 2.2 ROM.
Messed up with my 2.2 custom ROM.
Went to ROM manager recovery, and recovered the backed up 2.1 JH7, and ended up messing up. My phone didn't even boot up.
Then I went back to recovery, and tried restoring the backed up version of 2.2.
Phone booted up into 2.2, but, started giving a lot of FCs.
Scenario 2:
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Installed 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Backed it up.
Messed it.
Restored it - worked fine.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM 2.
Backed it up.
Restored the 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Everything working fine.
Looks like as long as the core OS is of the same version, it seems to work.
Maybe there is something in the boot sequence that's probably not being restored (???)
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Edit: I do not have CWM app installed. I use the CWM update.zip recovery manager since its the least intrusive way.
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Interesting, it would makes sense in what you are saying. My error that I go was when I went from my original JH7 backup, installed a rom based on JH6 and then tried to install my original backup. I might have to try JH6 roms and see if I can restore to them easily or not. I will have to wait for Micro USB cables to come in as I don't have a spare since I used my only cable to make the JIG.
The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
I herd a rumor that rom manager doesn't work with froyo on the captivate. But I could be totally wrong.
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peachpuff said:
The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
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This is what I have read about it as well
Voodoo
There is also a different version of CWM Recovery (what Rom Manager uses to back things up) for the voodoo lag fix.
tnerb123 said:
I herd a rumor that rom manager doesn't work with froyo on the captivate. But I could be totally wrong.
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It works. I backed up and restored a few variants of Froyo ROMs.
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The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
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How do I backup these? Is there any way?
If Ron Manager does backup the kernel and modem why would so many people have problems restoring back to different Roms? This is why I am so puzzled with this software.
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Rom Manager can backup EFS folder ??
i lost my imei and the only backup that i have its from Ron Manager
Absolutely it does there!
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but best bet is backup from recovery. Saves everything down to browser login data. Can't go wrong with a full backup! I make one every time I flash just about anything.
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Rom Manager vs CWM Recovery
yes Rom Manager can do backup of phone..but why not just do
a Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery..
never had problem with Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery :victory:
dobi3 said:
yes Rom Manager can do backup of phone..but why not just do
a Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery..
never had problem with Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery :victory:
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Agreed!
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I'm really a noob in hacking my captivate. So please bear with me with all my questions.
I've tried my best to educate myself about different mods, especially clockworkmod and nandroid. But I couldn't understand what each of these does. I did "Backup Current ROM" in ROM manager recently. (1) Is that considered to be a ROM backup that I can use in the future if I want to restore to stock ROM?
If so, (2) what is the different between that backup method and Nandroid method? I didn't do Nandroid backup because I don't understand how to install it.
(3) If not, am I screwed? Cause I already performed several mods: Voodoo lagfix and ATT app removal. But my captivate is running fine.
I just wanna make sure I can restore back to my Stock ROM when 2.2 update is available. (4) Do I need to restore stock ROM in order to receive and install 2.2 update?
Please educate me on this matter. Thanks!
I use nandroid once I installed a firmware or ROM and apps (Titanium Backup User apps + System data and restored on the ROM Missing Apps + Data) to make a backup.
Now I can restore Nandroid and all my settings/apps are there.
Use Titanium backup to get your apps/settings onto a newly flashed firmware or ROM.
2 good options... My favorite is to use rom manager to do a rom backup.
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hwibowo said:
I'm really a noob in hacking my captivate. So please bear with me with all my questions.
I've tried my best to educate myself about different mods, especially clockworkmod and nandroid. But I couldn't understand what each of these does. I did "Backup Current ROM" in ROM manager recently. (1) Is that considered to be a ROM backup that I can use in the future if I want to restore to stock ROM?
If so, (2) what is the different between that backup method and Nandroid method? I didn't do Nandroid backup because I don't understand how to install it.
(3) If not, am I screwed? Cause I already performed several mods: Voodoo lagfix and ATT app removal. But my captivate is running fine.
I just wanna make sure I can restore back to my Stock ROM when 2.2 update is available. (4) Do I need to restore stock ROM in order to receive and install 2.2 update?
Please educate me on this matter. Thanks!
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1) clockwork mod and nandroid (ROM Manager) are the same thing.
2) as clockwork stands RIGHT NOW (should be changing soon), backing up your current ROM does NOT change your kernel or modem. clockwork is also incompatible with voodoo (you have to disable voodoo to use clockwork, and you can restore voodoo once you're done)
3) to restore to stock "out of the box" state, you will need to use the odin one-click downloader for the Captivate.
4) the process for updating to 2.2 is unknown at this time, we won't know more until the option starts rolling out.
Kaik541 said:
1) clockwork mod and nandroid (ROM Manager) are the same thing.
2) as clockwork stands RIGHT NOW (should be changing soon), backing up your current ROM does NOT change your kernel or modem. clockwork is also incompatible with voodoo (you have to disable voodoo to use clockwork, and you can restore voodoo once you're done)
3) to restore to stock "out of the box" state, you will need to use the odin one-click downloader for the Captivate.
4) the process for updating to 2.2 is unknown at this time, we won't know more until the option starts rolling out.
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Thanks alot! That clears a lot of my confusion.
Kaik541 said:
3) to restore to stock "out of the box" state, you will need to use the odin one-click downloader for the Captivate.
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Thing is, this isn't EXACTLY "out of the box" state. This is a new install of the stock ROM, but it's missing some things that are on the original phone like the file with the easy to get unlock codes.
What I would like to do is backup the entire device as is when it comes out of the box. Basically create an image of the existing device. That way, if I have to revert at any point I know I'm not just reinstalling the stock ROM, but actually reverting to this phones original state.
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Thing is, this isn't EXACTLY "out of the box" state. This is a new install of the stock ROM, but it's missing some things that are on the original phone like the file with the easy to get unlock codes.
What I would like to do is backup the entire device as is when it comes out of the box. Basically create an image of the existing device. That way, if I have to revert at any point I know I'm not just reinstalling the stock ROM, but actually reverting to this phones original state.
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Hmmm, good question. The only way to back up that I know of is to use ROM Manager. Since that requires rooting the "damage" may already be done.
The date of the kernel is different from the stock one as well, someone else tried to flash the original stock kernel but said while Odin showed the kernel took, the phone still shows the same with the different date. It would be nice if there was a way to get a completely original stock ROM, so if you have to exchange or something at ATT. I don't know how in depth they get at the store so maybe we'd be able to get away with just the Odin One-Click and they will accept it. If they check the kernel date though, you're screwed. Either way though, once the update comes out, rest assured that someone will post it on here for those of us not running completely original out of the box stock, which I always appreciate.
I want to try some kernels for cm 7.1 to see if ocing could help speed up some games. If I don't like them I would like to get stock kernel back and I know I can't use sgs kernel flasher to back up current kernel because cm7 is different. I think I read that you could do a Nandroid and this would back up the current complete setup. Is this true? (sorry can't seem to search efficiently on this Tapatalk and don't have access to a computer). If so does it also backup apps, data and all? Is it done on the backup rom from rom manager or recovery? Thank you for your help.
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nandroid backs up everything just as it is. definitely use cwm not rom manager.
you could also just put d/l the stable kernel as a cwm flashable zip.
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fractaline said:
nandroid backs up everything just as it is. definitely use cwm not rom manager.
you could also just put d/l the stable kernel as a cwm flashable zip.
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Thank you for your help. Where can I find the kernel?
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Don't know for sure (I don't run cm7), but I would check the op of the cm7 thread.
fractaline said:
nandroid backs up everything just as it is. definitely use cwm not rom manager.
you could also just put d/l the stable kernel as a cwm flashable zip.
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nandroids do not backup kernel or modem.
have you ever made a backup of one set up and tried to restore onto a completly different rom? well if you have then you know there is a high chance that it will bootloop because of a now incompatible kernel. the procedure for a proper nandroid restore is to flash the rom it was backed up on (thus flashing the kernel that is compatible with it) and THEN restoring the nandroid. then it will be like you never flashed away from that rom at all. (this is speaking of tw roms as i have never run an aosp so i could be mistaken about it not backing up kernel on cm7)
studacris said:
nandroids do not backup kernel or modem.
have you ever made a backup of one set up and tried to restore onto a completly different rom? well if you have then you know there is a high chance that it will bootloop because of a now incompatible kernel. the procedure for a proper nandroid restore is to flash the rom it was backed up on (thus flashing the kernel that is compatible with it) and THEN restoring the nandroid. then it will be like you never flashed away from that rom at all. (this is speaking of tw roms as i have never run an aosp so i could be mistaken about it not backing up kernel on cm7)
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Yea, I kinda thought that, but thought it worked for cm7.
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I have to take my daughter's Cappy in for a warranty exchange because of battery draining too fast. She was running Fasty 2.4 and had to go back to stock. I restored with the nandroid backup we created before. I may have screwed things up a bit because of restoring that way.
Although we got back to stock, none of her apps returned in the drawer, including Android Market. The only apps in the drawer are bloatware and superuser. CWM recovery is available. There is no My Files either. Did I miss a step in doing the nandroid restore? Hoping we can get her apps back. Really don't want to take the phone back with so much missing.
Thanks for any advice.
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Reflash stock. Don't restore the nandroid.
mrhaley30705 said:
Reflash stock. Don't restore the nandroid.
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+1. To elaborate a little bit, just use odin one click to flash back to stock eclair. Dont restore anything on it just take it back after you flash and make sure its all together. But if you want all this stuff on your new captivate that you will root and flash I would make backup to an external SD card using titanium backup.
Trying to create a nandroid backup in cement v4... (running uckj3, with boog's kj3 kernel) and every time i boot into recovery and perform a backup it gets stuck at "backup sd-ext" kinda confused as to why this is happening, also can't get the kj3 extended power menu to work, flashed the zip maybe 5 times, cleared the cache/dalvik cache and nothing, any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
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The nandroid backup is not yet working in the Gingerbread Roms.
The extended power menu is for Deodexed Roms only.
Hope this info proves helpful.
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Okay, so I was thinking about why it wasn't working and went to my clockworkmod folder on the SD and saw that the files were pretty large in size, all totally over 4 FBI, so i deleted some miscellaneous files to free up some additional space and tried to run cement backup again... still took a while and did think it got stuck again, but it actually finished..could i safely assume that it worked or should i not trust the files? Also, the more i think about it, do i really need a Nan backup? Meaning, if anything goes wrong with my phone i can always reflash stock and use titanium backup to restore my apps...any thoughts?
Like I said before, the Nandroid Backup does not work in the Gingerbread world. It may look like it is backing up but the restore part won't happen. If u try u may soft brick.
And yes, the fail safe is that you could always return to a Gingerbread stock of your choice and use Titanium Backup to restore your stuff.
nandroid works on gingerbread, just not I897 kernels. I9000 works fine.
although i don't use them personally.
^ Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize that about the i9000 because I am always on i897.
It's amazing what is being accomplished on captivate kernels, reverse engineering and building "blind" but nothing beats having source code to work with, which is why the I9000 nandroid works.
So how can I tell if I'm running an I897 or I9000? Currently using UCKJ3 with boogs kernel and just flashed the samurai kernel
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that is I897.
I897 firmwares usually start with a K
I9000 usualy a J
it will also usually say in the op of the thread...