I am wondering how easy it is to brick my Captivate. Also, how easy is it to brick the phone, with the only solution being to use a JIG?
Is the only way to brick if you do something stupid? If you follow all instructions (flash to stock, etc.) is it even possible to brick it? I've upgraded my phone to 2.2 using Kies; does the fact that I've upgraded once make it muc less likely to fail and brick later?
I'm wondering this because all the ROM makers must flash constantly, so I'm thinking there must be a way to avoid bricks.
Thank you!
AmandeepG said:
I am wondering how easy it is to brick my Captivate. Also, how easy is it to brick the phone, with the only solution being to use a JIG?
Is the only way to brick if you do something stupid? If you follow all instructions (flash to stock, etc.) is it even possible to brick it? I've upgraded my phone to 2.2 using Kies; does the fact that I've upgraded once make it muc less likely to fail and brick later?
I'm wondering this because all the ROM makers must flash constantly, so I'm thinking there must be a way to avoid bricks.
Thank you!
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Depends on your Captivate. In general, it's a bad idea to flash back to stock unless absolutely necessary. Bad Odin flashes are one of the biggest causes of bricked Captivates. Bad flashes through other methods (like CWM) usually leave you with boot problems, but working button combos for download mode. You should also check beforehand that your button combos work, since some Captivates are without them out of the box.
Also, wrong forum. This belongs in Q&A.
GGXtreme said:
Bad Odin flashes are one of the biggest causes of bricked Captivates.
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Isn't the accepted way (as in the stickied thread) to always flash to stock?
GGXtreme said:
You should also check beforehand that your button combos work, since some Captivates are without them out of the box.
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"Hold down both volume buttons and while holding them down plug the phone in." works for me
I have bricked my phone to the point of needing a jig 3 times now all because of odin. But the jig is 99 cents and is easy to use
sent from my captivate running a kitchen rom and hardcores 256hz k12n
kschumake83 said:
But the jig is 99 cents and is easy to use
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Can you buy it, or do you have to make it from components?
Flashing back to stock is only needed when you have to, but no you do not have to flash to stock every time you flash a rom, a bad odin flash is usually the main cause in a bricked phone.. But as long as you can get to recovery or download mode, then its not bricked, you can usually get something flashed either way
existz said:
Flashing back to stock is only needed when you have to, but no you do not have to flash to stock every time you flash a rom, a bad odin flash is usually the main cause in a bricked phone.. But as long as you can get to recovery or download mode, then its not bricked, you can usually get something flashed either way
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But the stickied thread says the exact opposite. I'm a little confused.
nbs11 said:
Here is the rule of thumb: if it does not specifically say anything about being able to not use ODIN in the original thread for the ROM you MUST you ODIN.
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AmandeepG said:
But the stickied thread says the exact opposite. I'm a little confused.
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Sometimes personal habit becomes the correct way to do something. For instance one teacher teaching how to count with pictures of apples and the other using oranges.
GGXtreme said:
Bad Odin flashes are one of the biggest causes of bricked Captivates. Bad flashes through other methods (like CWM) usually leave you with boot problems, but working button combos for download mode.
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Do these "bad" flashes occur do to doing improper things, like pulling the cable mid-update, or forgetting to unlagfix before, or stuff like that? Or are they purely random?
Normally The bad flashes from odin are due to the fact the the phone being flashed did not have the 3 button combo by default. I personally have flashed ALOT and always odin and master clear before a new rom, the only time I bricked and needed a jig was when I had my old phone (got it replaced) that didnt have the 3 button and used the wrong odin.
zelendel said:
Normally The bad flashes from odin are due to the fact the the phone being flashed did not have the 3 button combo by default. I personally have flashed ALOT and always odin and master clear before a new rom, the only time I bricked and needed a jig was when I had my old phone (got it replaced) that didnt have the 3 button and used the wrong odin.
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Thanks! I'm gonna check if my Captivate has this 3 button recovery mode.
If it does, is the 3 button way just as effective as a JIG? And how effective is the 3 button and JIG at recovering from bricks (like I mean, how possible is it that they will not work)
AmandeepG said:
Can you buy it, or do you have to make it from components?
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you can buy jigs online people sell for 20$ or so...but it's actually very simple to make and so cheap as well so buying one is slightly pointless. also, i have flashed too many roms i've lost track, my phone shutdown in the middle of an odin, etc etc, and i always manage to get out of it so i wouldn't be concerned. having 3button enabled helps tho
AmandeepG said:
Thanks! I'm gonna check if my Captivate has this 3 button recovery mode.
If it does, is the 3 button way just as effective as a JIG? And how effective is the 3 button and JIG at recovering from bricks (like I mean, how possible is it that they will not work)
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I am guessing that you are concerned with bricking yours. You must be thinking about flashing a rom for the first time. I needed the jig yesterday for the first time. From what I understand, the jig method is almost a guarantee fir download mode, making the captivate nearly unbrickable. Can it be bricked... I am sure it can, but you are part of a community full of resources to keep you from doing so. You trepidation is not unique... I too was slow to flash my captivate. Now that I have, I have a phone that I love. I have been able to contribute to the community. And... I have a new found addiction.
Hi. My username is NunHugger and I am a flashaholic.
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NunHugger said:
I am guessing that you are concerned with bricking yours. You must be thinking about flashing a rom for the first time.
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You are completely right there!
I think I'll hold off doing my first flash until I can go out and get the parts for the jig, make and test it, so I can be sure nothing bad will happen
zelendel said:
Normally The bad flashes from odin are due to the fact the the phone being flashed did not have the 3 button combo by default. I personally have flashed ALOT and always odin and master clear before a new rom, the only time I bricked and needed a jig was when I had my old phone (got it replaced) that didnt have the 3 button and used the wrong odin.
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Same here...corrupted data is corrupted data..and will cause problems...no matter how it gets loaded ...I've have been using Odin since I came to the Captivate..and is the only way I have been able to actually enjoy a new rom..A new rom...a fresh install..less problems for me.
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A question about download mode:
I want to test if my captivate can get into download mode by the 3-button combo. However, I don't have any zips to update or anything to download or anything like that.
How do I enter download mode and then exit without making any modifications?
I thought I could just power the phone off, but in big letters it says "Do not power off target" (in videos I've watched).
AmandeepG said:
Isn't the accepted way (as in the stickied thread) to always flash to stock?
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Accepted, yes.
Stupiud, yes.
You don't need anything to flash to get into DL mode
Just follow the instructions as it says and if it comes up you can just reboot the phone. Although you have to pull the battery. Although I've heard that holding just the Vol Up and Power for 10 secs also works. I've never tried it though
AmandeepG said:
Do these "bad" flashes occur do to doing improper things, like pulling the cable mid-update, or forgetting to unlagfix before, or stuff like that? Or are they purely random?
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Depends on a lot of factors. It could be that your Captivate doesn't support flashing back to earlier than JH2 (JF6 one-click will brick), that your Captivate is already missing button combos (requires C3P0LOL's fixed Odin or AT&T's OTA JH7 update), a bad USB cable, problems with Windows, using the wrong USB port, etc. (all on top of user error). Lagfix won't affect Odin flashes.
AmandeepG said:
Do these "bad" flashes occur do to doing improper things, like pulling the cable mid-update, or forgetting to unlagfix before, or stuff like that? Or are they purely random?
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I wouldn't say they are random. They are probably mostly caused by user error or some fault in the USB chain (port, cable, driver interactions). Whatever the root cause, from what I can see almost all bricks/semibricks are the result of using odin (I include cases such as where a cwm flash results in a boot loop and the user can recover because he used one-click and has no button combos).
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Few days ago I rooted and put Serendipity 2.0 on my Build 1010 with no problems.
I want to try Cognition 3.01.
So I followed the SAME method used in the MobileTechVideos and I cannot figure out how to get it into download mode
I have tried the 3 button method several times and it just takes me to the battery charging icon.
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Would I be able to just pull up Odin3 (I897UCJF6-final-OCD-REV0) .exe as administrator, plug in USB, turn on phone, and go to DL mode through the phone via that way? Would it recognize it on my computer so I can just go back to stock and do the entire process over again for a ROM?
Or is this easier: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818439
Would going to download manager through my phone while having Odin3 pulled up on the computer and my USB of course plugged in, work???
Please, someone, anyone!!! Wanting to try a new ROM so bad!!!
I would flash back to stock and start fresh
Have you used odin before?
I can get you into download mode and going with odin if your phone is working and recognized by your computer but with your build you don't want to use the odin you linked I am pretty sure.
crupp said:
I would flash back to stock and start fresh
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That's what I'm trying to do!!! I just need to get into download mode first. My phone is not bricked or anything; it's working great. I just need to get into download mode so I go back to stock and put a new ROM on!!!
I think it's because of my build, 1010.
Can anyone confirm C3POs (Odin3) method works?
xThe Enforcer said:
Few days ago I rooted and put Serendipity 2.0 on my Build 1010 with no problems.
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Would I be able to just pull up Odin3 (I897UCJF6-final-OCD-REV0) .exe as administrator, plug in USB, turn on phone, and go to DL mode through the phone via that way? Would it recognize it on my computer so I can just go back to stock and do the entire process over again for a ROM?
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You would probably end up with a brick.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
And, BTW, there is no need to flash stock before flashing Cognition, but it's still good to find a reliable way in case you ever have a real need to do so. Also, I'm pretty sure Cognition still includes and sbl.bin that will fix your button combos (that's not normally a good thing, but in your case it is).
xThe Enforcer said:
That's what I'm trying to do!!! I just need to get into download mode first. My phone is not bricked or anything; it's working great. I just need to get into download mode so I go back to stock and put a new ROM on!!!
I think it's because of my build, 1010.
Can anyone confirm C3POs (Odin3) method works?
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I also have 010 and have flashed half a dozen rooms and used 3 button for all of them including Cog 3
opcow said:
You would probably end up with a brick.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
And, BTW, there is no need to flash stock before flashing Cognition, but it's still good to find a reliable way in case you ever have a real need to do so. Also, I'm pretty sure Cognition still includes and sbl.bin that will fix your button combos (that's not normally a good thing, but in your case it is).
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Thanks for the link.
So bottom line; just use a different Odin3. Just like I originally posted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
Same concept.
crupp said:
I also have 010 and have flashed half a dozen rooms and used 3 button for all of them including Cog 3
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Every phone is different. I've read of someone with 1008 not having 3 button.
opcow said:
You would probably end up with a brick.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
And, BTW, there is no need to flash stock before flashing Cognition, but it's still good to find a reliable way in case you ever have a real need to do so. Also, I'm pretty sure Cognition still includes and sbl.bin that will fix your button combos (that's not normally a good thing, but in your case it is).
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And also, I disagree. Every ALWAYS says to flash to stock no matter what...
xThe Enforcer said:
And also, I disagree. Every ALWAYS says to flash to stock no matter what...
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Not everyone. It's apparently mainly confined to the Captivate forums and not universally recommended even here (Darky's instructions say nothing about it, for example). There is no benefit to doing so, believe it or not. Of course I don't care how anyone does it. It's up to you. If you tell people it's safer, however, you're misinforming people based on something that got started months ago and just became the status quo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
I believe this is what im looking for. I couldn't find the pit nor tar files any where. Im a vibrant owner so not to familiar with the files. Thanks. Will let you know.
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Well bottom line, I think the easiest method for me to get into download mode every time I want to root/flash is by using the 99 cent jig. Thanks everyone for there info.
So I got into download mode by installing a 3buttonfix.zip via CWM.
I used Odin3 exactly like your supposed to. Went to stock, master cleared. Everything passed and completed.
My phone is now back to stock but still showing all files on my SD card. I even tried a factory reset and it still shows them.
Any ideas?
Blah, still no one?
*2767*3855#
This is the code you can enter in the dialer to wipe the phone internal memory. Does not ask for confirmation so make sure you have already done a backup of what you want.
newter55 said:
*2767*3855#
This is the code you can enter in the dialer to wipe the phone internal memory. Does not ask for confirmation so make sure you have already done a backup of what you want.
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Outstanding. It worked and did actually delete everything on my SD card. It's odd how Master Clear and factory reset through the phone did not but this way did. Build 1010 is bipolar.
Appreciate all the help everyone!
(I gave you a 'thanks' Newter)
So I did just brick a 1008 phone and have a new one coming, so what should I be aware of with these newer versions of phones before I flash?
I did learn that one-click odin and the 3-button fix are big no-no's. BIG. It's a shame too, because the GPS on this fixed model was as good as my girlfiend's tomtom. So anyway, can someone point me in the right direction?
Maybe get an Inspire 4G? Seriously though, the button combos are still the biggest pita to me I have a 1010 build and the one click odin will soft brick it in a heartbeat. full odin seems to work best for me.
i was surprised, it wasn't the one click that killed it, it was the 3-button fix. I had successfully gone back to JF6 and master cleared (even though it came with JH7 stock) without issue. Just that last thing killed me when I couldn't get into download and I was reckless. Oh well. I won't be screwing that up again!
Aron1980 said:
i was surprised, it wasn't the one click that killed it, it was the 3-button fix. I had successfully gone back to JF6 and master cleared (even though it came with JH7 stock) without issue. Just that last thing killed me when I couldn't get into download and I was reckless. Oh well. I won't be screwing that up again!
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Hmph. That's just weird. I have a1008, and while I did soft-brick it once using Odin 1-click, using the 3-button fix wasn't a deal. I generally don't use 3-button now, though; just reboot into recovery from the menu screen when the phone is on, once I've flashed back, master-cleared, etc. Guess I'll be a bit leery about using 3-button in the future, though.
Well it was a reconditioned phone from AT&T. I think it had all the new software and updated hardware. So that may have been the reasoning. I'll be using ADB to get some stuff done for sure in the future
Here's a copy/paste of a reply I made on another forum. ODIN-1-CLICK bricked this guy's phone.
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I think your original problem (and mine; same issue) was due to using ODIN-1-CLICK on a batch 1010 or 1012 phone. The trick is to ONLY use ODIN3 (NOT 1-CLICK) with the 1010/1012 phones. So far, I've flashed my 1012 phone this way at least 6 times and everything has worked fine.
[PROGRAM] AIO Captivate Toolbox 3.0 NOW LIVE *Smaller, Faster, + More Automation* - xda-developers
The above is a GREAT program/toolbox for flashing phones. It includes both ODINs and will allow you to flash, root, flash customs, all in one place.
The other thing that I've become semi familiar with is "ADB". If you're not familiar with it do some research on it. You can get ADB with the SDK Tools for Android - Basically what I use it for is to VERIFY communication between the phone and the computer, prior to using ODIN3. This will help to ensure that things are getting started off correctly.
The last thing I *****HIGHLY***** recommend is spending the $10 on a jig. I did a flash to stock today and it had some partition problems and I had to use the jig to get back to Download Mode. As far as I'm concerned - If you flash at all, you need one - for $10, buy one now and have it on hand for later.
Anyway, glad to see you got another one - Hopefully your first experience will not discourage you from flashing ROMs. I was hesitant at first for fear that my phone would go 'dead' again, but using the above techniques has really proved itself as reliable to me."
Most totally disagree with me, but this is the Odin I've used on my 1012 build with ZERO problems.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Keep in mind, though, that I've only used it once when I went from Cog back to stock so I could flash Serendipity.
do you have 3 button working on it after using odin 1 click?i have a 1012 build used odin 1 click lost my 3 button into recovery and cant use it to get into download mode had to use odin 3 to get it back.
Maybe I'm missing something here but I don't even know if my 1012 build Cappy has the 3 button stuff on it or not.
If I want to go to recovery, I use the extended power options, OR adb, or CWM for that matter.
Download mode? ODIN will usually take me there automatically if plugged in to USB - or my jig - or adb again, or the ext power options.
I don't need/care about the 3 button crap - should I?
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Here's a copy/paste of a reply I made on another forum. ODIN-1-CLICK bricked this guy's phone.
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I think your original problem (and mine; same issue) was due to using ODIN-1-CLICK on a batch 1010 or 1012 phone. The trick is to ONLY use ODIN3 (NOT 1-CLICK) with the 1010/1012 phones. So far, I've flashed my 1012 phone this way at least 6 times and everything has worked fine.
[PROGRAM] AIO Captivate Toolbox 3.0 NOW LIVE *Smaller, Faster, + More Automation* - xda-developers
The above is a GREAT program/toolbox for flashing phones. It includes both ODINs and will allow you to flash, root, flash customs, all in one place.
The other thing that I've become semi familiar with is "ADB". If you're not familiar with it do some research on it. You can get ADB with the SDK Tools for Android - Basically what I use it for is to VERIFY communication between the phone and the computer, prior to using ODIN3. This will help to ensure that things are getting started off correctly.
The last thing I *****HIGHLY***** recommend is spending the $10 on a jig. I did a flash to stock today and it had some partition problems and I had to use the jig to get back to Download Mode. As far as I'm concerned - If you flash at all, you need one - for $10, buy one now and have it on hand for later.
Anyway, glad to see you got another one - Hopefully your first experience will not discourage you from flashing ROMs. I was hesitant at first for fear that my phone would go 'dead' again, but using the above techniques has really proved itself as reliable to me."
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I certainly won't be deterred (sp?) from flashing again. Just going to do a little more research in the next two days, so I can flash the new one when it arrives. I am a little familiar with ADB and the standalone ODIN. I think I will be spending more time using them. I actually bricked using the AIO toolbox, so I think I will just stick to doing it myself. Not that it was that programs fault, but I believe it made me a little less cautious because of the ease of using it. But still a fantastic thing for many users.
Aron1980 said:
I actually bricked using the AIO toolbox, so I think I will just stick to doing it myself. Not that it was that programs fault, but I believe it made me a little less cautious because of the ease of using it. But still a fantastic thing for many users.
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The toolbox just incorporates the individual programs and some of the ADB scripts all into one package - The ODIN versions used in the AIO toolbox are the exact same as the standalone ones. Just FYI.
I don't use ODIN 1-CLICK anymore (except for Master Clear use). I have actually encountered a soft brick situation 2 times using the ODIN3 - For some reason, my phone sometimes hangs on the Partition section during a flash. When it does, it results in a soft brick with the computer-!-phone. The jig always gets it back into download mode, no problem.
sethjamto said:
Most totally disagree with me, but this is the Odin I've used on my 1012 build with ZERO problems.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Keep in mind, though, that I've only used it once when I went from Cog back to stock so I could flash Serendipity.
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It's not a matter of disagreeing... it's the fact that many phones in the 1010, 1012, AND 1008 series take ODIN 1-click badly. Sort of takes the opinion aspect out of the discussion.
if youre worried about getting into download mode get a usb jig gets any captivate into download mode
kevalin said:
It's not a matter of disagreeing... it's the fact that many phones in the 1010, 1012, AND 1008 series take ODIN 1-click badly. Sort of takes the opinion aspect out of the discussion.
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Yikes. I hosed up my 1008 this past weekend doing something I had no business doing. Odin3 1-click was what worked. I guess I'm lucky. I have a VERY old G5 Mac, so Odin, Kies, and the SDK won't run on it (no Intel chip, so no windows or SDK on the PPC Macs).
I borrowed a friend's laptop and loaded up Odin3 1-click. At first it wouldn't work. I installed the drivers from Samsung, but Odin3 would only recognize the phone when it was on. It let me do a Master Clear. But if I put it in DL mode and connected it, Odin3 never saw it.
Strangely enough, I tried putting Kies Mini on it to see if I could get the stock Froyo. It installed a bunch of drivers, but I could never get it going. Every time I connected the phone, Kies Mini would quit itself. In a last-ditch effort, I tried Odin3 one more time and it recognized the phone. I can only guess it liked the drivers or whatever else it was that Kies Mini put on there.
BUT NOW, I don't have the 3-button recovery option. My Captivate came with JH7 and I always got the 3-button recovery. But now that I flashed back to JF6, it doesn't let me enter recovery mode. Grrrrr.
I'm going to try to do the OTA update to JH7 over wifi at work and see if that brings back my recovery mode...I hope it's still available. Booooo!
Long story short: 1008 Cappy + JF6 = I need to buy a new computer.
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Yikes. I hosed up my 1008 this past weekend doing something I had no business doing. Odin3 1-click was what worked. I guess I'm lucky. I have a VERY old G5 Mac, so Odin, Kies, and the SDK won't run on it (no Intel chip, so no windows or SDK on the PPC Macs).
I borrowed a friend's laptop and loaded up Odin3 1-click. At first it wouldn't work. I installed the drivers from Samsung, but Odin3 would only recognize the phone when it was on. It let me do a Master Clear. But if I put it in DL mode and connected it, Odin3 never saw it.
Strangely enough, I tried putting Kies Mini on it to see if I could get the stock Froyo. It installed a bunch of drivers, but I could never get it going. Every time I connected the phone, Kies Mini would quit itself. In a last-ditch effort, I tried Odin3 one more time and it recognized the phone. I can only guess it liked the drivers or whatever else it was that Kies Mini put on there.
BUT NOW, I don't have the 3-button recovery option. My Captivate came with JH7 and I always got the 3-button recovery. But now that I flashed back to JF6, it doesn't let me enter recovery mode. Grrrrr.
I'm going to try to do the OTA update to JH7 over wifi at work and see if that brings back my recovery mode...I hope it's still available. Booooo!
Long story short: 1008 Cappy + JF6 = I need to buy a new computer.
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That's odd, because after I soft-bricked my phone using ODIN3 1-click, then finally got it to let me get back into download mode (I don't remember exactly what I did to manage that, though I know I hunted around the forums until I found some workable instructions), I used the non 1-click ODIN3 to get 3-button back.
I swear to God, these Captivates are pickier than cats with a food choice.
Hey guys, hope you be able to help. I have a cappy and is dead, no screen at all, no response on any button combination or even when i plug it in none at all..
I got the phone like this (for free a friend gave it to me) what are my options?
Would a jig help or JTAG is the only solution? (which i've been told is not 100% full proof that will revive the phone)
Any reply is much appreciated.
JiroPrinz8 said:
Hey guys, hope you be able to help. I have a cappy and is dead, no screen at all, no response on any button combination or even when i plug it in none at all..
I got the phone like this (for free a friend gave it to me) what are my options?
Would a jig help or JTAG is the only solution? (which i've been told is not 100% full proof that will revive the phone)
Any reply is much appreciated.
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Yahh look for the unbrickable mod, contact AdamOutler or Connexion2005 i think!
b-eock said:
Yahh look for the unbrickable mod, contact AdamOutler or Connexion2005 i think!
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Thanks! i have a jig on the way, will try that first (HOPEFULLY it will.do.the trick), if no luck then will try unbrickable mod.. last option is jtag.. well last option is to chuck it in my toilet really.. LOL..
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JiroPrinz8 said:
Thanks! i have a jig on the way, will try that first (HOPEFULLY it will.do.the trick), if no luck then will try unbrickable mod.. last option is jtag.. well last option is to chuck it in my toilet really.. LOL..
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Try the jig, see if Odin recognizes it.
Don't do Jtag, it's a pay each time thing while the unbrickable mod is forever, my phones on the way back from getting it done!
I recieved a replacement captivate today. It was a 1011 build. Recovery and download worked fine. It was running 2.2.
I used the one click odin to flash to stock 2.1 and now I can no longer get in download mode or recovery with any key combo.
What can I do to fix this? Kinda freaked out, been flashing roms for months and months with zero issues so I am not real sure how to resolve this one.
To clarify, I can use adb to get into download or recovery I am sure and thats what I am going to do. Then flash the 3 button combo fix with Odin that C3P0LOL put together.
My question is I never had this on my 1007 build. What did I do wrong and what can I do to prevent this from every happening in the future? If the fix works and I avoid the one click odin, I should be good to go from now on right? Sucks. I tested everything before I flashed one click to 2.1 which is kinda stupid I guess.
what about holding vol up and down and inserting usb?
maybe your 3button was killed by the odin 1 click... but it still shouldve rebooted...
try the steps in this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775911
B-Naughty said:
what about holding vol up and down and inserting usb?
try the steps in this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775911
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That is what I was doing and does not work. On my old captivate, I couldnt even count the times I did this so it's not user error. Guess its good I had such good success for so long as this is the time you learn stuff! I really dont want to learn today I just want it to work?!!
gocats7 said:
That is what I was doing and does not work. On my old captivate, I couldnt even count the times I did this so it's not user error. Guess its good I had such good success for so long as this is the time you learn stuff! I really dont want to learn today I just want it to work?!!
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yea it's a little wierd the odin finsihed and didnt reboot the phone... and now 3button won't work... some phones just wanna act wierd... ive done everything in the world to mine including yank the cord during a bad flash... never lost 3 button or download... 1011 build...
tried holding the vol buttons and hookin usb then insert batt? hope u get it goin... keep us posted...
Flashed back to stock using the loader I referenced earlier and now I have both download and recovery key combinations.
I am speculatiing that coming from 2.2 to 2.1 with the one click was a bad idea. All I had done was root the phone to that point. If anyone knows 100% what the deal was I would like to know. I went from 2.2 to 2.1 because I couldnt get clockwork to work and I read that was an issue on 2.2. I am sure there was a better way but thats what came to me.
I would guess that using the thread below to go back to stock from now on to not risk screwing up my 3 button combos would be the best idea, anyone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
One question, if I want to go back to stock 2.2 as the phone came with is there a thread for that? I looked and so far didnt find it. Probably need to just keep looking but thought what the heck, would ask since I came this far.
First off there is no section to Continuum so I'm simply posting in here rather than android development. I have read up and am going out later today to buy some resistors in order to test if I can get into download mode that way.
Okay so I 1 click odin'd back to stock from firefly 2.8. I then tried to use the button combinations to get back into download mode after flashing stock. I lost the button combinations after using odin. So I one click rooted, installed terminal emulator and was able to get into recovery and download mode using that method. I began the process of flashing continuum and flashed the gingerbread bootloaders. It went fine. I9000 flash screen popped up and it booted into eclair. Stupidly I used an older update .zip to flash cwm and then flashed a 3 button fix .zip in order to get the 3 button combo back before moving forward. After I choose to reboot in cwm. Nothing happened. Phone is completely unresponsive (button combos, power, won't charge). Complete paper weight right? I already have a replacement coming from att but I just wanted some input as to how much I messed it up and if ATT can go through my files after they jtag the phone I send them back.
Bricked!! You DID NOT need the button fix on the new bootloaders, you had a working combo with the new ones its contained in the secondary bootloader its just a different series of buttons flashing the button fix mixed a gb primary bootloader and a eclair/froyo secondary= completely ****ed. No jig in the universe can save it.
Att won't be able to tell, they have to take it apart and flash it, thus erasing all evidence.
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Bricked!! You DID NOT need the button fix on the new bootloaders, you had a working combo with the new ones its contained in the secondary bootloader its just a different series of buttons flashing the button fix mixed a gb primary bootloader and a eclair/froyo secondary= completely ****ed. No jig in the universe can save it.
Att won't be able to tell, they have to take it apart and flash it, thus erasing all evidence.
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lol anything out of the universe that could fix it?... OH YEAH I KNOW, I KNOW! A JTAG
Then again, go for waranty 1st. Studa is right, once you mess up with the bootloaders, there's nothing you can do about it. Your phone is bricked.
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Bricked!! You DID NOT need the button fix on the new bootloaders, you had a working combo with the new ones its contained in the secondary bootloader its just a different series of buttons flashing the button fix mixed a gb primary bootloader and a eclair/froyo secondary= completely ****ed. No jig in the universe can save it.
Att won't be able to tell, they have to take it apart and flash it, thus erasing all evidence.
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Studacris,
I'm not a noob. I am running continuum on my other captivate and have flashed many times. I did try the other key combinations NOT the standard ones. They still would not work. I understand that is bricked. I figured as much. The jig was in case any of you asked if I at least tried. AlI needed to know.
I sort of did the same thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944418&page=63
The last post here, the guy said he used the All-in-one tool to load Continuum 5, so I tried it. Woops. At least my contract is up, may look into the Inspire.
I have not tried a jig, since ever post I've seen, if it don't even flicker with the buttons, it's a waste of time.
Later
I recently bricked mine as well. I believe you can walk into an att device repair center located in your town and let them play with it for a few minutes. After they figure they cannot fix it they will give you a replacement.
Least thats what they did years back with my htc kaiser (at&t variant). I even took apart that kaiser and messed with the internals. They said "you know it's out of warranty cause the void sticker is damaged?" I said "What? No I didn't know I didn't do that." They replaced it anyway. They are pretty nice when it comes to these things.
I currently have a bricked cappy. Gonna take it in friday.
Where in any of the GB bootloader instructions on any of the ROMS does it say flash 3 button fix. Its says read over and over how to flash and follow to the T. You failed nice job. That is why the dev write the instructions so that you can read and follow.
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BWolf56 said:
lol anything out of the universe that could fix it?... OH YEAH I KNOW, I KNOW! A JTAG
Then again, go for waranty 1st. Studa is right, once you mess up with the bootloaders, there's nothing you can do about it. Your phone is bricked.
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HEY STUDA!!! doesnt this sound familiar??? lol dumb ass!
didnt i say what you did?
and you said what bwolf did?
couple days ago...
teach you for making me look dumb!
and +1 for dingokevin!!
keepin an eye on you!
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HEY STUDA!!! doesnt this sound familiar??? lol dumb ass!
didnt i say what you did?
and you said what bwolf did?
couple days ago...
teach you for making me look dumb!
and +1 for dingokevin!!
keepin an eye on you!
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wait what?
oops nevermind that was bwolf doing that to me the other day... lol
damn short term memory...
wait what?
Since nobody can read. I ALREADY HAVE a replacement coming. I DID read the instructions and have successfully installed roms since cognition. Mods please lock thread because everyone likes to jump down peoples throats and assume rather than reading my explanation and how I knew it was bricked already. Thanks for nothing.
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Sorry for the long read, this is half rant and half question.
Alright, I got a captivate a long time ago (about a year and 3 months ago), loved it, rooted it and installed cyanogenmod as soon as I got home, changed roms and kernals constantly, did whatever I wanted to do.
About 3 months ago my screen stopped working.. So I take it in and they give me a refurb captivate, looked brand new so I didn't mind. However, when I tried to get into recovery it didn't work, the 3-button-method just wouldn't work at all, period, so I try to get it to work, gets stuck in bootloop.. pretty much every time I try to flash a rom something goes wrong and I get stuck in a bootloop but I can usually get into recovery or download mode because I had CWM.
So I'm on maxq's rom and it's working great for the past 2 months, decide not to mess with kernals or anything, however today I decided to try ICS, load it up, everything's fine, then I realize my soft keys aren't working, search for awhile, can't find anything, finally just manually start looking through the rom pages, and someone said that if you have the problem to just odin back to stock and try again.
I odin back to stock, but now 3 button combo doesn't work.. So more searching, find that I can run the 3e fix by TRusselo, doesn't work because I need root, more searching on how to root without recovery, find "SuperOneClick", root with superoneclick, then run 3e fix, everything is working fine, I check my email and load the ICS files onto SD card, go to restart and go into recovery mode.. Bricked, stuck in a bootloop, won't go to recovery, won't go to download, nothing.
Why the **** was I able to do anything I wanted with my old captivate, but if I even root this one it bricks? And what did I do to even brick it? I only ran the 2 programs and both of them worked flawlessly.
I guess my only option is to usb jig it, but honestly now I'm convinced that the phone is just faulty, I want to run the thing over.
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So I'm on maxq's rom and it's working great for the past 2 months, decide not to mess with kernals or anything, however today I decided to try ICS, load it up, everything's fine, then I realize my soft keys aren't working, search for awhile, can't find anything, finally just manually start looking through the rom pages, and someone said that if you have the problem to just odin back to stock and try again.
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If you would have actually searched you would have known it was a bug in the glitch. There are atleast 40 pages about that.
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I odin back to stock, but now 3 button combo doesn't work.. So more searching, find that I can run the 3e fix by TRusselo, doesn't work because I need root, more searching on how to root without recovery, find "SuperOneClick", root with superoneclick, then run 3e fix, everything is working fine, I check my email and load the ICS files onto SD card, go to restart and go into recovery mode.. Bricked, stuck in a bootloop, won't go to recovery, won't go to download, nothing.
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If you flashed ICS you should know it takes 2 flashes for it to work first time. Having a jig around is always a good idea as well.
-Pirate said:
Why the **** was I able to do anything I wanted with my old captivate, but if I even root this one it bricks? And what did I do to even brick it? I only ran the 2 programs and both of them worked flawlessly.
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Stuff doesn't work as intended. Keep in mind everything is still in dev and not all devices are the same. But you should have searched a little more and it would have ran =/
U def don't need a jig. If it's booting it's not bricked. Try removing battery, start Odin, hold down power and down, plug in and put battery in. This should bring u to download mode.
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If you would have actually searched you would have known it was a bug in the glitch. There are atleast 40 pages about that.
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I did start to see a few people with the problem, however many people do not follow up with what fixes their problem, and I did what a few people had said to do.
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If you flashed ICS you should know it takes 2 flashes for it to work first time. Having a jig around is always a good idea as well.
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I should of mentioned that I did flash a few times, 3 total I think, it was getting stuck at boot.
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Stuff doesn't work as intended. Keep in mind everything is still in dev and not all devices are the same. But you should have searched a little more and it would have ran =/
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I understand that **** happens but honestly my old captivate could always get into recover mode and download mode no matter what, it's extremely frustrating that something changed with the newer models. One of my questions was what caused the brick? I did nothing wrong from what I see and it was running perfectly until I tried to restart/boot into recovery.
Oh and mbc663, thanks but download mode doesn't work at all, nor does recovery obviously.
I can't say exactly what you are doing. Best advice I can do Re download your .zips Flash back to stock GB and try again.
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About 3 months ago my screen stopped working.. So I take it in and they give me a refurb captivate, looked brand new so I didn't mind. However, when I tried to get into recovery it didn't work, the 3-button-method just wouldn't work at all, period, so I try to get it to work, gets stuck in bootloop.. pretty much every time I try to flash a rom something goes wrong and I get stuck in a bootloop but I can usually get into recovery or download mode because I had CWM.
So I'm on maxq's rom and it's working great for the past 2 months, decide not to mess with kernals or anything, however today I decided to try ICS, load it up, everything's fine, then I realize my soft keys aren't working, search for awhile, can't find anything, finally just manually start looking through the rom pages, and someone said that if you have the problem to just odin back to stock and try again.
I odin back to stock, but now 3 button combo doesn't work.. So more searching, find that I can run the 3e fix by TRusselo, doesn't work because I need root, more searching on how to root without recovery, find "SuperOneClick", root with superoneclick, then run 3e fix, everything is working fine, I check my email and load the ICS files onto SD card, go to restart and go into recovery mode.. Bricked, stuck in a bootloop, won't go to recovery, won't go to download, nothing.
Why the **** was I able to do anything I wanted with my old captivate, but if I even root this one it bricks? And what did I do to even brick it? I only ran the 2 programs and both of them worked flawlessly.
I guess my only option is to usb jig it, but honestly now I'm convinced that the phone is just faulty, I want to run the thing over.
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Last year, I had issues with my original Cap, and got a "new" one. I learned that the bulk of the Caps going out as replacements are referbs. The one I got was a 1008 build, and does not have 3 button recovery. There are minor differences with each and every Cap that's out there. That's why some have issues with ROM's and some don't, some can over clock like crazy, and some can't at all. My guess is you have a 1008 as well, but that really doesn't matter. You just have a different device and as you seem to already have learned.
It sounds like there is more research you need to do. Even though the devices are a bit different, if you are having issues with ROM's loading, then I would say it's more of a procedure issue, than one with your device.
My procedure, is,
Remove SD/Micro SD
Odin1 Click to Stock JF6, and Master Clear(This will erase EVERYTHING)
Root with One-Click Root
Use Sideload Wonder Machine to install ROM Manager, copy update.zip and 3buttonFix to my SD, then reboot into recovery
Once in recovery I install the 3buttonFix, and install my new ROM
For me this has proven to be a very good method versus going from one ROM to another. The Master Clear cleans EVERYTHING off of your SD, so there is no chance for anything to corrupt your new install. Anytime I read a post of a install gone FUBAR, USUALLY a Flash To Stock/Master Clear (FTS/MC) fixes it
Before using Odin 1 Click, check your devices build number!! If it is higher than 1012, I would NOT recommend using 1 click, there is a higher chance of hard brick on the newer devices
Kangi...if you flash a firmware package without bootloaders, you won't have to do the 3 button fix every time. And if you keep a copy of the update.zip on your pc you don't have to even root, let alone bother with side loading ROM manager.
Cezar has a no boots jf6 and after you run that, you can still use master clear in one click.
Sounds like you got one of the refurbs that is missing the SBL. Have you looked at this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821
I've not had this problem myself but it sounds like that might help. If I remember reading correctly, once this is flashed it should stick as long as you don't flash any other bootloaders on top of it.
Its not missing the sbl. The sbl it has doesn't respond to key combos. Derpa sherpa moment for samsung I guess?
Rofl yeah...if it was missing the sbl it would be fuggin bricked!
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Kangi...if you flash a firmware package without bootloaders, you won't have to do the 3 button fix every time. And if you keep a copy of the update.zip on your pc you don't have to even root, let alone bother with side loading ROM manager.
Cezar has a no boots jf6 and after you run that, you can still use master clear in one click.
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I know, thanks. I'm such a creature of habit, I started doing it like this a bit over a year ago, and has worked flawlessly for me(just jinxed myself!) so I never saw a reason to "fix what aint broke".
I'll take a look at Cezar's thanks!
Yeah, missing SBL was a poor choice of words. My bad.
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Last year, I had issues with my original Cap, and got a "new" one. I learned that the bulk of the Caps going out as replacements are referbs. The one I got was a 1008 build, and does not have 3 button recovery. There are minor differences with each and every Cap that's out there. That's why some have issues with ROM's and some don't, some can over clock like crazy, and some can't at all. My guess is you have a 1008 as well, but that really doesn't matter. You just have a different device and as you seem to already have learned.
It sounds like there is more research you need to do. Even though the devices are a bit different, if you are having issues with ROM's loading, then I would say it's more of a procedure issue, than one with your device.
My procedure, is,
Remove SD/Micro SD
Odin1 Click to Stock JF6, and Master Clear(This will erase EVERYTHING)
Root with One-Click Root
Use Sideload Wonder Machine to install ROM Manager, copy update.zip and 3buttonFix to my SD, then reboot into recovery
Once in recovery I install the 3buttonFix, and install my new ROM
For me this has proven to be a very good method versus going from one ROM to another. The Master Clear cleans EVERYTHING off of your SD, so there is no chance for anything to corrupt your new install. Anytime I read a post of a install gone FUBAR, USUALLY a Flash To Stock/Master Clear (FTS/MC) fixes it
Before using Odin 1 Click, check your devices build number!! If it is higher than 1012, I would NOT recommend using 1 click, there is a higher chance of hard brick on the newer devices
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I didn't think anyone else was going to reply to this thread, whoops.
Thank you for helping me, but I'm still having trouble.
Rom manager doesn't show up in Market, Sideload wonder machine tells me [INSTALL FAILED OLDER SDK] with any apk of Rom manager I find.
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3buttonFix to my SD, then reboot into recovery
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How do you reboot into recovery when 3buttonfix hasn't been applied yet?
This sucks and is extremely frustrating, I feel like my captivate is just trolling me.
-Pirate said:
I didn't think anyone else was going to reply to this thread, whoops.
Thank you for helping me, but I'm still having trouble.
Rom manager doesn't show up in Market, Sideload wonder machine tells me [INSTALL FAILED OLDER SDK] with any apk of Rom manager I find.
How do you reboot into recovery when 3buttonfix hasn't been applied yet?
This sucks and is extremely frustrating, I feel like my captivate is just trolling me.
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When I get home later tonight I'll link you everything you'll need. Again, VERY important, what is your build number? If it's 1012 or higher, don't use Odin 1 click
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kangi26 said:
When I get home later tonight I'll link you everything you'll need. Again, VERY important, what is your build number? If it's 1012 or higher, don't use Odin 1 click
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Ok, finally got it working, I did exactly what you said, I found the rom manager 3.00.002 or whatever and that worked with sideloader, it took some messing around with but I'm running ICS now, thank you so much man, you've helped me so much, and now I can change roms and keep up to date without worrying about constantly soft-bricking.
As for my build number, I'm not sure, the only thing I see under build number in settings is: "IML74k"
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Ok, finally got it working, I did exactly what you said, I found the rom manager 3.00.002 or whatever and that worked with sideloader, it took some messing around with but I'm running ICS now, thank you so much man, you've helped me so much, and now I can change roms and keep up to date without worrying about constantly soft-bricking.
As for my build number, I'm not sure, the only thing I see under build number in settings is: "IML74k"
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The build number is actually under your battery, and looks like 10.06, 10.07, 10.08 and so on. It is the production date
Edit** And as a side note, do NOT try to use the 3buttonFix with a GB ROM, it WILL brick your phone in a really bad way. ONLY use it with 2.1 or 2.2
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The build number is actually under your battery, and looks like 10.06, 10.07, 10.08 and so on. It is the production date
Edit** And as a side note, do NOT try to use the 3buttonFix with a GB ROM, it WILL brick your phone in a really bad way. ONLY use it with 2.1 or 2.2
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Is it weird that I don't have a build number? It seems I can't post pictures without a few more posts, maybe this will work: deleted
And thanks for the warning on the 3buttonfix, I'm going to have to read more about bootloaders though, I don't understand what you and studacris were talking about earlier in the thread, haha.
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Is it weird that I don't have a build number? It seems I can't post pictures without a few more posts, maybe this will work: imgurDOTcom/26sXGl.jpg
And thanks for the warning on the 3buttonfix, I'm going to have to read more about bootloaders though, I don't understand what you and studacris were talking about earlier in the thread, haha.
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I havent seen that before, there doesnt seem to be a build#
Might want to pull that photo, it's not too good having your IMEI number publicly displayed
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I havent seen that before, there doesnt seem to be a build#
Might want to pull that photo, it's not too good having your IMEI number publicly displayed
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Maybe because it's a refurb? and whoops didn't think about that.
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Maybe because it's a refurb? and whoops didn't think about that.
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I'm not sure why, mine is a referb, and I have a sticker with mine on it. Ooh well, it is what it is
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