[Q] Locked bootloader work around. - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

A co-worker recently got a new capitvate from AT&T, and he asked me to root the phone for him. I kept having issues with the phone saying that the phone didn't have the correct signature on the file. I was able to get root on the phone with the superoneclick root but certain programs that needed root would not work properly. So, the work around was to flash using ODIN to a known good unlocked stock ROM. After, flashing to a good stock ROM where the bootloader was not locked I was then able to root and put custom ROM on the phone.

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[Q] how to return to stock recovery with locked bootloader?

im gona send my phone in as a replacement, but i want to make sure everything looks stock before it send it in, i found a couple of ways to return to stock but i keep getting signiture verified failed, and i assume its because i have an unlocked bootloader, can any 1 help?
You should be able to find the stock rom for unlocked users in the development section. Just flash that and you will be back on stock.
But you can't re-lock the bootloader. When you unlocked it you voided the warranty, and it stays that way.
If it is a physical hardware problem, you should be able to still get warranty though.
Sorry, I meant to say my bootloader is locked, I don't have a problem with the rom, but the recovery. I am on ra recovery atm and I want to go back to google's stock. Is there anyway to do that?
Im pretty sure this works for all phones but if you flash Official OTA it will put everything back to stock(except bootloader if it has been unlocked) but doing this you will also loose root as well
i would wait for some one to tell you another way to get back to stock recovery, im sure there is a way to do it in adb or something.. Flashing the official OTA should be like a last thing wanting to do
Look for the stock recovery Tom for your phone then just flash with fastboot. That's the easiest way that I. Did it.
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codearray said:
Look for the stock recovery Tom for your phone then just flash with fastboot. That's the easiest way that I. Did it.
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He cant do fastboot, he has locked Bootloader.
yeah, it saids verification failed and wouldnt let me flash anything onto it
oops my bad. I had an unlocked bootloader. My other phone is locked.
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vvaffles said:
yeah, it saids verification failed and wouldnt let me flash anything onto it
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Yeah i had the same problem when i tried to revert mine to stock. My bootloader was lock and wouldnt let me reflash the stock rom with verification failed.
NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE CORRECT WAY, DO AT YOUR OWN RISK :
I renamed the image to PASSIMG.zip and booted into bootloader. The bootloader automatically searches for PASSIMG and when it found it went through an update/installing process which took about 5minutes. When it booted phone was unrooted again, and had the stock recovery.
Once that was done, i installed the FRF85 (i think) update.zip from bootloader recovery, then did the same with update.zip for FRF91.
Again not sure if this was the correct way as i have never seen posts directing to do it this way - have posted questions about it in the past week or two, but never got any responses...
I'm gonna bump this thread up again. I tried downloading the original PASSIMG file for the stock and when I try and flash it by putting it on the SD card I get that the main file is older and the install is aborted. I can't fastboot the files because my bootloader is not unlocked. I'm currently running a FRG83 based ROM, does this matter? I'd like to return my phone to stock recovery and stock ROM, but so far every attempt has been met in failure... I guess it's an irony of rooting a phone without unlocking a bootloader. If you have to send it in for repairs you have to unlock the bootloader to return to stock, or you can't return to stock and you're left with custom recovery and root... either way HTC knows you're rooted. I know my issue is a hardware issue, but it would be my luck they decide to void my whole warranty.
You can't just PASSIMG your way back from FRG83, if you have it - since there's no PASSIMG for FRG83 yet (at least I'm not aware of one, and looks like Google isn't either), and the system is designed not to flash older builds. Trying to use PASSIMG to return to older builds requires some heavy preparations (has to be rooted, then downgrading HBOOT and probably flashing initial system.img from an older build through adb in recovery, using flash_image). It's possible and not very hard to do, but most probably beyond "1-click-root"ers' skills. All the relevant info is in the Wiki, so if you want to attempt it - you can try.
Unrooting FRG83 (reflashing stock recovery from FRF91, removing su and Superuser.apk from root shell) might be easier.
Also, put attention that if the phone has SLCD screen - the official stock FRF91 won't work on it.
I actually was able to PASSIMG to FRG33 then OTA back to FRG83. which I thought was odd due to the fact that I was on a FRG83 based rom. Oh well, it's 100% back to stock now. So even though people say that a rooted/unlocked phone only voids your software warranty I don't have to worry about it. Yay for keeping a locked bootloader.

ROM Manager Won't Doesn't Work

I have an N1 that I unlocked and rooted and was running CM7 RC1 when I decided to try the stock Gingerbread. This switch went perfectly, but now I don't think I want to stay on the stock GB but I can't seem to get ROM Manager to boot into recovery to allow me to flash another ROM. Do I have to do something differently now? BTW, I do not have root on the 'new' GB.
Thanks.
Unless you flashed a pre-rooted version of Gingerbread, you will have lost root and your custom recovery...
If this is the case, you have two options:
1 - Flash a custom recovery through an unlocked bootloader.
2 - passimg back to an older version of Android and root again...
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tsprks said:
BTW, I do not have root on the 'new' GB.
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This is your problem. ROM Manager installs a custom recovery, but only when your phone is rooted. You need to re-root GB.
Can I ask them how people flash custom recoveries without having root? I see threads all over the place that say that you don't have to root your phone to run these custom ROM's.
tsprks said:
Can I ask them how people flash custom recoveries without having root? I see threads all over the place that say that you don't have to root your phone to run these custom ROM's.
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You have to root, but you don't have to unlock your bootloader.
You have to do one of the things:
1) Root.
2) Unlock the bootloader.
Rooting allows you to bypass security mechanisms from within the OS, and flash the custom recovery from there.
Unlocking the bootloader turns off the security mechanisms, and you can flash whatever you want directly from bootloader.
Both achieve the same thing, but in different ways.
Root privileges in OS are lost upon official upgrades.
Unlocked bootloader is never lost.
Unlocked bootloader allows for an easy way to gain root in the first place, regardless of the ROM.
How does an unlocked bootloader allow me to flash whatever ROM I want? ROM Manager won't run without root? Am I missing something? I've read the wiki's and threads about rooting an N1 and they all just seem to stop at unlocking the bootloader, well, my bootloader is unlocked but I can't get it to boot into CWM so that I can select another ROM. Is there another way to do this?
ROM Manager is only one, and not the most successful nor most powerful, way to flash ROMs or recovery. ROM Manager was made for non-understanding people to make the process look and feel easier. The most powerful way is directly from bootloader - which needs to be unlocked to allow it.
If you read all the threads, you'll see that unlocking the bootloader is just a first step - you can look carefully at "installing custom ROM" guide in Wiki. Or, for example, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636795
Read the Wiki, look for recovery installation instructions using unlocked bootloader, execute. I suggest Amon_Ra's.

UnaAble to root Nexus One

im useing ota 2.3.4 and ive tried everything to root the nexus one universal,z4,gingerbreak i have the bootloader unlocked but it will not root however gingerbreak did install su i thought my G2X was a trip this thing is giveing me more grey hair somew one have a solution
I had this problem and just managed to figure it out today (through the power of google). Superboot, oneclick and gingerbreak all don't work for 2.3.4 as of right now, so you have to use the PASSIMG method to flash an older version and root from there.
I found a good guide, but given that I've been a lurker for the past couple years as opposed to a regular poster, I can't link it. In lieu of a link, I suggest a search query such as "root 2.3.4 nd1razor"
Your bootloader is unlocked. No need for all that crap. Put the su zip on your sd card. Flash custom recovery via fastboot. Boot directly into the new recovery. And flash the su.zip from the recovery. You're rooted. The end.
you just need to flash custom recovery via fast boot or rom manager.then you can flash custom roms (which mostly have root along with tweaks) via recovery
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I also unlocked the bootloader!
I put this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084726
But I still do not have root permissions ... Why?
You have them, but probably don't know how to use them. How do you check for them?
How did you put the ROM? Did you flash custom recovery?
Yes, i flash recovery-RA-passion-v2.2.1.img
Now my rom is: MIUI-1.9.16
The strange thing is that I managed to install the rom and recovery without having root permissions
Not strange. You don't need root. You have unlocked bootloader......
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Not strange. You don't need root. You have unlocked bootloader......
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Thanks, you're very kind!
How do for get root permissions ?
The ROM includes them. When you're inside the ROM, you have root.
You are right !!!!! I just had to change the parameters with superuser
thanks
P.S.: Sorry for my ignorance

What to do after roo

Just downloaded towelroot, have not installed yet. What is purpose of root since bootloader is locked. I know we can put safe strap for custom roms but that's where things get messed up and it's hard to get back to stock rom. So if I install what should be installed next??

Help rooting?

Hello all,
Im totally confused as to how to go about rooting my device c6902. Ive owned a couple of android devices and Ive rooted them all, however....with this device and there seem to be different ways people have rooted from reading the threads and im totally confused, So far I have unlocked the bootloader, and upgraded the device OTA to lollipop .242 (before the bootloader was unlocked), I dont intend installing any custom firmware, just want root so I can use TB and maybe delete a few bloatwares with root explorer and use xposed.
Im confused as to whether:
1. I have to downgrade firmware to kitkat, just to get root, then upgrade back to official firmware?
2. Ive been under the impression that a custom recovery and supersu, is enough to get root. It doesnt work that way on this device?
3. I saw some oneclick root programs that worked on the z1 compact would any work here
Just trying to know more about the phone and understand, so any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
bigmeech084 said:
Hello all,
Im totally confused as to how to go about rooting my device c6902. Ive owned a couple of android devices and Ive rooted them all, however....with this device and there seem to be different ways people have rooted from reading the threads and im totally confused, So far I have unlocked the bootloader, and upgraded the device OTA to lollipop .242 (before the bootloader was unlocked), I dont intend installing any custom firmware, just want root so I can use TB and maybe delete a few bloatwares with root explorer and use xposed.
Im confused as to whether:
1. I have to downgrade firmware to kitkat, just to get root, then upgrade back to official firmware?
2. Ive been under the impression that a custom recovery and supersu, is enough to get root. It doesnt work that way on this device?
3. I saw some oneclick root programs that worked on the z1 compact would any work here
Just trying to know more about the phone and understand, so any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2631291
Using the guide on the link I just posted, you are not required to unlock the bootloader, unlocking the bootloader without backing up the TA partition can cause problems with your phone.
You need to downgrade to KitKat 4.4.4 with kernel 108, then root it with easyroot install supersu and rootchecker to make sure your phone is rooted, the use NUTs recovery to create a recovery partition, after that search XDA forums for a pre-rooted lollipop flashable zip and install that, and voila you should be on lollipop with root and recovery.
I am not sure about one-click root programs.
demon148 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2631291
Using the guide on the link I just posted, you are not required to unlock the bootloader, unlocking the bootloader without backing up the TA partition can cause problems with your phone.
You need to downgrade to KitKat 4.4.4 with kernel 108, then root it with easyroot install supersu and rootchecker to make sure your phone is rooted, the use NUTs recovery to create a recovery partition, after that search XDA forums for a pre-rooted lollipop flashable zip and install that, and voila you should be on lollipop with root and recovery.
I am not sure about one-click root programs.
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Thanks for your help.
I already unlocked the bootloader though. Do I need to downgrade the whole kitkat rom or flash just the kernel? thanks
Figured out. Thanks

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