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I know people are going to hate,this but just wondering is it possible to make a iPhone Rom
Go buy a f***ing iPhone.
Ouch.
That's an interesting question, though. Mac O.S. is basically its own flavour of Unix. Because of this, it makes sense that Iphone O.S. is some derivative of Unix. Since Android is based on the Linux kernel and uses a sort of Linuxy userspace, it might be possible to reverse engineer Iphone O.S., or somehow get the source code (good luck doing this!), patch it and compile it for an A.R.M. prcessor and make a Nexus One boot into it.
I doubt that anyone will really bother, though; there is so much work involved, and you can already buy a Iphone.
It was a question to know if its capable I had a 3gs but I love me nexus and you don't have to be ****
Thank you keet that does sound like a lot but would be pretty cool
ttieder said:
Thank you keet that does sound like a lot but would be pretty cool
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Why would it be cool?
A couple reasons if you could use the iPhone app store that would be cool because let's face it the iPhone games and some apps are better and you can switch between the 2 best systems and I know if you have a Android phone you don't really like the iPhone a jailbroken iPhone is still a good phone but it needs to be jailbroken
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My brain hurts now...
P.S. I very highly doubt you'd have access to the iPhone's app store, just because you've got a ROM. If this were possible, don't you think someone would have found a way to simple bring that over already!?!?
I just wondering if it was possible thats all
Sure, anything is possible. It essentially comes down to getting the OS to work with the hardware.
but would anyone do it? No
How about a windows 3.11 ROM while we're at it?
Really??????
I only want DOS on my phone. Can someone do this please?!!?!!
No way, let me install Win7 on my N1, please. I want to play Crysis on it.
grainysand said:
No way, let me install Win7 on my N1, please. I want to play Crysis on it.
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great one!
How did you find this place?
c'mon, plenty of people would be interested in trying an iPhone rom if it were available. however the difference in the chipsets means it probably won't be happening. especially now that Apple makes its own chips.
j.books said:
c'mon, plenty of people would be interested in trying an iPhone rom if it were available. however the difference in the chipsets means it probably won't be happening. especially now that Apple makes its own chips.
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The A4 is a custom implementation of the ARM A9 processor. Guess which other phone this can be found in...give up? This is also found in the nexus one (Snapdragon). The big difference here is the GPU which is mated with the A9 in apple’s design.
Currently, the iPad is the first (and only) product to employ the A4. So for now, porting a rom over wouldn't be limited by the fact it is written against the A4 (A9) but rather they are written against the ARM A8. Not knowing enough about porting I would have to defer to those with larger interest in such a matter but I would think barring any wonky crap apple decided to utilize, a port may not be as impossible as one may think once all of apple's mobile devices are running this new processor.
Having the ability to multi-boot a phone would be insane.
Nexus - custom boot loader (grub) that defaults to the phone's os - android
sd card - debian, winmo7, iphoneOS
Don't like it, don't use it. The ability to do it simply because you can? Sure why not.
McFroger3 said:
I only want DOS on my phone. Can someone do this please?!!?!!
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Dos games ftw!
liam.lah said:
Dos games ftw!
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screw all that nonsense. I just want my phone to have a blinking curser.
Now, before I get started I just want to say please don't yell at me going "WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT THAT?" This is just a simple question:
Could it be possible to port WP7 onto the Nexus One? I noticed we have development for things like Ubuntu and Meego.
xxjoshuaaxx said:
Now, before I get started I just want to say please don't yell at me going "WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT THAT?" This is just a simple question:
Could it be possible to port WP7 onto the Nexus One? I noticed we have development for things like Ubuntu and Meego.
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The difference is, OSes like Android, Meego and Ubuntu are all based on open-source Linux. That means we can try and squeeze them onto devices that weren't designed for it without running into huge legal repercussions, and if something is incompatible we can just recompile it with changes.
WP7 is closed-source and designed for specific hardware. I don't think it'd be easy, it definitely wouldn't be legal, and I don't think you'll find a lot of people here who care to see it happen anyway
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The difference is, OSes like Android, Meego and Ubuntu are all based on open-source Linux. That means we can try and squeeze them onto devices that weren't designed for it without running into huge legal repercussions, and if something is incompatible we can just recompile it with changes.
WP7 is closed-source and designed for specific hardware. I don't think it'd be easy, it definitely wouldn't be legal, and I don't think you'll find a lot of people here who care to see it happen anyway
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Add in to the fact that it's not even released yet, so how would anyone know anyway? Yes, xxjoshuaaxx it's possible, but it's nothing like getting Ubuntu to run on the N1. It would require a lot of custom driver code to be written. Nobody will care enough to do this though, so while yes it is possible it won't happen. Same reason you don't see Symbian or BB OS running on an N1, or any Android phone. Unless the hardware is extremely similar it's not worth trying.
One possible exception might be - if a manufacturer produces an Android and a Windows phone that are 99.9% the same hardware with different OSes slapped on them. In that case it *might* be possible to reflash one to the other. But don't count on it!
I would guess the way it happens is that you take a phone 7 device with a similar hardware device sporting android and then install android on the phone7 device and dual boot. It was the wild west with windows mobile up to now but with phone 7 I expect to see apple style policing of the OS meaning developers fiddling with putting it on a non native phone 7 device and offering up such a rom will be seeing a cease and desist order very qickly.
My question is
Is it a good time to buy a nook color with all the new tablets coming? If yes...
Is it a good time to root the nook with the update coming? And finally...
When Android 2.3 is coming to the nook?
Thanks a lot in advance for the answers, I'm lost in the subject...
elcape said:
Is it a good time to buy a nook color with all the new tablets coming?
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If you want a tablet now/today I think the NookColor is a great choice if you are willing to hack on it a bit. My only suggestion is to NOT buy a tablet from China... I'm still cleaning up from that mistake after almost 2 months! (Damn you Pandawill!)
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Is it a good time to root the nook with the update coming? And finally...
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While I haven't done it you can unroot the NookColor.
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When Android 2.3 is coming to the nook?
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It may never, just as there are never any guarantees that a device will be updated. Thankfully we have XDA and some great ROM cooks!
Only you can decide if it is a good time for you.
I got the Nook Color as a Christmas present, but would have bought it myself, probably. I had heard of it being rooted and wanted a fairly cheap tablet.
Right now the Nook Color is the cheapest Android Tablet with the best build quality (for the price).
Froyo is coming this month according to a few people. Rooting now isn't an issue because you can always go back to stock.
My suggestion, wait until after CES and see what is brought to the table if you are wavering. But know that if you are always waiting for the "best thing", you will never buy anything, because new and upcoming products are always being announced.
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My question is
Is it a good time to buy a nook color with all the new tablets coming? If yes...
Is it a good time to root the nook with the update coming? And finally...
When Android 2.3 is coming to the nook?
Thanks a lot in advance for the answers, I'm lost in the subject...
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The NC is a good little tablet. There are better ones and there will be more coming soon.
It's an excellent time to root the NC. It can do so much more than B&N enabled. We don't know when the/if any update is coming. But we do know that custom roms are just around the corner. As soon as the new Clockwork Recovery gets sorted, there will be custom roms. The new recovery is a game changer for the NC.
I think 2.3 will come to the NC in the form of a custom rom. I do not have much faith that B&N is going to push it. I mean they still haven't done 2.2 and how long has that been out for other devices?
Musicman247 said:
Only you can decide if it is a good time for you.
Right now the Nook Color is the cheapest Android Tablet with the best build quality (for the price).
But know that if you are always waiting for the "best thing", you will never buy anything, because new and upcoming products are always being announced.
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That's what I'm looking for a budget tablet, and you are right about the new gadgets
I'm sure that the dual-core tablets will be way more expensive than US$250, and I'm not welling to spend more than that for a device to browse the web, email and videos.
Another question, what video formats(codecs) are supported on the rooted nook??
Thanks for the answers
jleecong said:
If you want a tablet now/today I think the NookColor is a great choice if you are willing to hack on it a bit. My only suggestion is to NOT buy a tablet from China... I'm still cleaning up from that mistake after almost 2 months! (Damn you Pandawill!)
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something like Archos?
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something like Archos?
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Ask yourself what you want in a device. Are you using it as an ereader first, tablet second? Or tablet first, ereader second? I’ve had many, MANY Chinese tablets (G10, G11, Xpad, etc) and they are all junk. In the end, I still only used it as an ereader.
I wont get into an argument about Archos vs NC. There are other threads that compare the two. However, know this about technology: if you keep waiting for the next best thing, you’ll always be waiting. Buy now and make a stand that you wont care about another tablet for one year. You’ll be much better off with that mind set.
That being said, know what you want and find it:
- 7” or 10”?
- Resistive or Capacitive screen (obviously Capacitive)
- Large user community or you don’t care?
The NC fits what I want and use it for. I’d recommend it as an ereader AND a tablet. All these fancy options like HDMI out are rather useless to me. I have my netbook with infinitely better specs than any tablet out there.
HotShotAzn said:
Ask yourself what you want in a device. Are you using it as an ereader first, tablet second? Or tablet first, ereader second? I’ve had many, MANY Chinese tablets (G10, G11, Xpad, etc) and they are all junk. In the end, I still only used it as an ereader.
I wont get into an argument about Archos vs NC. There are other threads that compare the two. However, know this about technology: if you keep waiting for the next best thing, you’ll always be waiting. Buy now and make a stand that you wont care about another tablet for one year. You’ll be much better off with that mind set.
That being said, know what you want and find it:
- 7” or 10”?
- Resistive or Capacitive screen (obviously Capacitive)
- Large user community or you don’t care?
The NC fits what I want and use it for. I’d recommend it as an ereader AND a tablet. All these fancy options like HDMI out are rather useless to me. I have my netbook with infinitely better specs than any tablet out there.
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I not looking to read on it, (book or magazines) just as a tablet, browsing and all the other good stuff
i dont know archos quality
elcape said:
I not looking to read on it, (book or magazines) just as a tablet, browsing and all the other good stuff
i dont know archos quality
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The Nook was designed as a book reading device.
If you want a tablet, then buy a tablet, that way your not going to be disappointed.
Archos is a good choice, as is a few others out there right now.
Just because the Nook can function as a tablet, doesn't mean it will do everything you want it to do, and it certainly won't do it out of the box.
Nook is missing a Camera, Microphone, Native Functional Bluetooth, HDMI/Video out.
Its all up to you.
The nook is the best way to spend $250 on a tablet, if.....
these are important to you:
- Screen quality
- book Reading
- comic reading
- web browsing, other "connected" applications
- some gaming (is surprisingly robust in this regard, but compatibility issues are out there)
- Strong wifi reception
- overall build quality
- ease of basic rooting
- quality capacitive touch interface
and
These are not important to you
- Full out-of-box functionality
- Built in camera / gps / hdmi out
- having flash Right Now
- having native support for vid codecs other than mp4 encoded with mpeg4/h.264
- compatibility with future versions of Android
- the most processing muscle
The future will only increase the attractiveness of this device, with a 2.2 update from BN, custom roms, possible bluetooth etc.
I have a cousin who works with B&N, and he says that they are rushing to get the 3.0 kernel on the NC to accompany their locked-down skin. He says that there are some incompatabiliies, but that they have made progress. What are your thoughts? Is he crazy? Are we ever going to get a proper ICS OTA?
If B&N drops 3.0 kernel source for the Nook Color, the devs here will be quite happy because the current old kernel is the major impediment to ICS on Nook Color.
You sure they aren't doing this just for the Nook Tablet?
3.x is honey comb, not ICS. They'll prolly skip that all-together.
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3.x is honey comb, not ICS. They'll prolly skip that all-together.
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Talking about the linux kernel.
It makes little sense to me for them to update the core Android OS and Linux kernel if their reader, custom apps, and the apps in their store work fine with Froyo. But if they're going to keep selling the NC as the budget media tablet model for a while longer then a more up-to-date Android version makes sense in avoiding any possible compatibility issues down the road that could prevent them from seamlessly bringing the latest and best versions of Android apps across to the B&N market. Their separate B&N market wouldn't be very sustainable or a good selling feature if they had to only offer older versions and/or ask developers to add backporting compatability fixes for a two year old version of Android. Then again, that's just a lot of speculating on my part
I don't have hope for that, in fact, I doubt it.
They just released v.1.4.1 and it still is Froyo, I don't think they implement ICS for NC.
I could actually see them doing this just so that it will be easier for devs to convert their already tablet friendly ICS apps for the BN market.
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I would think they would like to keep the operating environment the same across units (if possible). This will cause less customer confusion/dissatisfaction and fewer support issues. Apple IOS is a good example of this IMO.
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I would think they would like to keep the operating environment the same across units (if possible). This will cause less customer confusion/dissatisfaction and fewer support issues. Apple IOS is a good example of this IMO.
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Apple allows old devices to upgrade to newer iOS versions (my gf's 3g is running iOS 5). They just cripple the features they don't want those devices to have (siri, folders, etc). Apple's relative lack of issues comes from controlling the hardware (no powerVR, tegra, qualcomm incompatibilities, short driver list), OS (no carrier or manufacturer modifications) and app store (too many bugs and your app is gone).
I doubt B&N would drop the full functionality of ICS on their customers (especially when they've fenced them in from froyo). ICS would open the door to tablet-centric apps which would help them compete with Amazon. It will most definitely come to the Tablet but I wouldn't expect it to come to the Color (since they need to differentiate the models to justify the price difference).
Would be great if they did release it, but lets face the truth, its unlikely.
If you guys want ICS your best bet is buying dalingrin and / or fattire a beer.
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Would be great if they did release it, but lets face the truth, its unlikely.
If you guys want ICS your best bet is buying dalingrin and / or fattire a beer.
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Maybe true, but if this works it would certainly give dalingrin and fattire some help with the issues they're having, not to mention speed up the entire process.
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Maybe true, but if this works it would certainly give dalingrin and fattire some help with the issues they're having, not to mention speed up the entire process.
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If what works? I'd love to have official ICS on my NC, but as others have said, they're still using a fluffy coating on Froyo. No GB and no HC means ICS is highly unlikely.
Now what would be very nice would be an updated kernel, as well as some direct contact with B&N techs about drivers for the chipset and other hardware. But I find that to be unlikely.
The newer Nook Tablet is based on Gingerbread, isn't it? Perhaps they're working on this first and foremost to crank out a third future device that supports APIs from ICS such as fragments. The updated code would then trickle down to Nook Tablet and possibly eventually NC.
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If what works? I'd love to have official ICS on my NC, but as others have said, they're still using a fluffy coating on Froyo. No GB and no HC means ICS is highly unlikely.
Now what would be very nice would be an updated kernel, as well as some direct contact with B&N techs about drivers for the chipset and other hardware. But I find that to be unlikely.
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No HC doesn't mean anything as it was not open source... This is not completely unthinkable. Remember the NC was on 2.1 before the 1.2 release where they upped it to 2.2.
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I don't have hope for that, in fact, I doubt it.
They just released v.1.4.1 and it still is Froyo, I don't think they implement ICS for NC.
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Of course, 1.4.1 came out just before ICS source was released, so maybe B&N figured they do a quick patch of the existing ROM, rather than go through all the work to do a rebuild on GB and then to ICS...
any news/rumors about this?
speedfreak007 said:
any news/rumors about this?
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Other than slow but steady progress on the CM9 build (and no new releases for now), no.
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Of course, 1.4.1 came out just before ICS source was released, so maybe B&N figured they do a quick patch of the existing ROM, rather than go through all the work to do a rebuild on GB and then to ICS...
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You have more faith in the B&N corporate staff than I do, but your optimism may be warranted, given that the NT doesn't seem to be totally ignored by the press in the same way the NC was.
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... You have more faith in the B&N corporate staff than I do, but your optimism may be warranted, given that the NT doesn't seem to be totally ignored by the press in the same way the NC was.
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I wonder how much other integration B&N is looking for with other content providers to match what Amazon is doing. I would think upgrading to ICS would make some business sense, in that with a fresher underlying OS, you might be able to keep app developers in the fold working on the NT.
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The newer Nook Tablet is based on Gingerbread, isn't it? Perhaps they're working on this first and foremost to crank out a third future device that supports APIs from ICS such as fragments. The updated code would then trickle down to Nook Tablet and possibly eventually NC.
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From what I understand... The new Nook Tablet has a locked bootloader, more or less precluding it from easy rom replacement.
Though, perhaps I have been misinformed.
Yoinx said:
From what I understand... The new Nook Tablet has a locked bootloader, more or less precluding it from easy rom replacement.
Though, perhaps I have been misinformed.
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Difficult if not impossible for 3rd parties providing roms but not for B&N. They have the security keys allowing them to provide whatever rom they choose within the hardware limits.
Is there any chance of it ever happening?
I had to say a sad goodbye to my HD2 WP7 to make way for my new Galaxy Note.
Personally, I prefer the WP7 OS to Android, and it would be a dream come true if it were ever available on a Note.
The problem here is that with a Linux-based operating system port all of the components are open source and hackable in order to get them to work on specific devices. With a Microsoft operating system this is *not* the case since MS don't open source any of their components and thus it would be damn near impossible to get this to work on a device it wasn't intended for.
The only exception here would be if there was some kind of emulator of another device which it *was* designed to work on developed for Android but I really can't see that happening since I just don't think it has the same following as Android and thus there wouldn't be much of a market for it.
TL;DR version: No.
Although we might be able to install windows8 arm at the end of the year.
For hackers and tweakers as a lot of us are, this opens some nice horizons
so why didnt you just get a wp7 handset? the note wont be running anytime soon, you know how much hacking and that the hd2 has a nice boot loader to aloow magldr to interface with it to get the other os supported?
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Although we might be able to install windows8 arm at the end of the year.
For hackers and tweakers as a lot of us are, this opens some nice horizons
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Oh yes! I completely forgot about Windows 8
Should be interesting.
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so why didnt you just get a wp7 handset? the note wont be running anytime soon, you know how much hacking and that the hd2 has a nice boot loader to aloow magldr to interface with it to get the other os supported?
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I love everything about the Note except Android, but I also love WP7. So I had to make a tough decision, and the Note just edged it