I decided to try out rooting my device using superoneclick on Friday, then I also manually installed the latest OTA update yesterday. And now my device is not happy. Before all this, the thing was solid, has never once crashed or rebooted on me. In the last 24 hours, I've had to remove the battery about 10 times so far, as it has locked up completely. Seems something is off with GPS, as using geo-location related functions from within apps seems to cause this. The bootloader is still locked, and I haven't installed any recovery images or anything like that, just rooted and updated using the update.zip method, but something has not gone well.
So, my question is, how can I restore everything back to how it was? I want stock, 100% unfucked-with everything back in the device. Factory wipe hasn't helped, and hasn't removed root (which surprised me, but seems obvious now I think about it). I have a copy of the Nexus One FRG83 system image (73.9mb) from HTC, but don't know how to install it. Once I install this, I will update using the ota updates, and try root again.
What do I do?
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Rename the the system image to PASSIMG.zip. Boot into the bootloader and it should detect it automatically. Update, restart, done.
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I am a noob.
I followed some instructions to prepare my N1 for the OTA 2.3.3 update and messed some things up. I cleared EVERYTHING from Clokwork recovery, but, then phone would not boot anymore. So I manually loaded a Cyan 6.1 and GApps zip and got the phoen to load. Finally ran clockwork, rom manager, backed it up. Then I downloaded the stock image FR91 from ROM manager, clear cache/data and rebooted. Phone updated from 2.2 to 2.2.2. Now I have all my apps back and stock ROM, but superuser will not work. I cannot flash clockwork now, and cannot use ROm manager. Titanium prompted me to update superuser binary thru a zip file, but it will not run. Now, I tried to access recovery thru bootloader, but it just give me the Android with the ! and nothing more.
Alos, ROM manager keeps saying my phoen is not rooted, but when I bought it (used) it had Cyanogen 6.1. I know it's rooted, I get the unlocked boot screen, but why the problems now? How can I regain superuser functions to use ROm manager again?
Thanks in advance.
This is what happens when people don't read and don't understand what they're doing.
ROOT is a user in OPERATING SYSTEM = Android OS.
LOCK is a property of BOOTLOADER = a program that boots the phone.
Stock = NOT ROOTED, until you root it.
UNLOCKED = allows you to flash ROMs and other partitions directly from bootloader.
The 2 have no relation whatsoever, besides one - being UNLOCKED makes it easier to gain ROOT.
This has been discussed here a zillion of times. Do yourself and XDA a favor, please, and invest some time in reading Wiki - it points to several 101's (things to know) and guides.
So in my case I have unrooted the phone and should research on how to root again?
Thanks for the reply. I suppose I just confused myself.
So if I root again this will/will not affect the OTA update?
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Wiki contains rooting guide.
Rooting won't affect OTA.
Custom recovery will affect OTA, unless signature checking is turned off in it.
You will have to root it.
A stock rooted rom will get the OTA. It will update as long as you don't remove stuff from stock. Like Amazon, twitter.
Please read the wiki.
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Please help, my nexus was unlocked rooted with trinity kernel. When i pushed update, my tablet restarted with clockwokmod and failed to update
to 4.2. i believed it was because of custom kernel so i then flashed to stock factory, and re locked using nexus toolkit.
When i go to setting for update, it's showing me that my system is up to date 4.1.2. I don't understand. I thought flashing it back to stock factory will solve the problem.
Thanks a lot in advance for you hep
diamondx911 said:
Please help, my nexus was unlocked rooted with trinity kernel. When i pushed update, my tablet restarted with clockwokmod and failed to update
to 4.2. i believed it was because of custom kernel so i then flashed to stock factory, and re locked using nexus toolkit.
When i go to setting for update, it's showing me that my system is up to date 4.1.2. I don't understand. I thought flashing it back to stock factory will solve the problem.
Thanks a lot in advance for you hep
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1) If you are using a custom kernel and/or custom recovery and/or removed/froze required system apks and/or modified build.prop and/or have a dozen other "custom" things, then the OTA update will NOT work. Period. You need to revert ALL of that. Stock kernel, recovery, system apks, build.prop, etc. Because if any of those aren't stock, the install will abort.
2) Having root is irrelevant. The update will remove suid access on the binary, so you will need to "re-root", but the binaries presence is irrelevant.
3) If it failed the OTA update, it won't download it again right away. Your best bet is to download the file and try to flash manually in a custom recovery (which will work as long as everything else is stock).
4) Did you say you relocked the tablet? If so, why? That was NOT required, and you just f*cked yourself, because you won't be able to flash a custom recovery back without unlocking the bootloader again, which will wipe your sdcard. There is NO reason to relock unless you are returning the device.
5) Again, this is why I hate toolkits. Learn to do things manually and you will be much better off.
At this point, assuming you relocked the bootloader, you will probably need to do a full factory reset and unlock it again. Then flash custom recovery and then flash the update. Or, since it would have been reset at that point, just download the full image from Google and flash that, then flash custom recovery.
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1) If you are using a custom kernel and/or custom recovery and/or removed/froze required system apks and/or modified build.prop and/or have a dozen other "custom" things, then the OTA update will NOT work. Period. You need to revert ALL of that. Stock kernel, recovery, system apks, build.prop, etc. Because if any of those aren't stock, the install will abort.
2) Having root is irrelevant. The update will remove suid access on the binary, so you will need to "re-root", but the binaries presence is irrelevant.
3) If it failed the OTA update, it won't download it again right away. Your best bet is to download the file and try to flash manually in a custom recovery (which will work as long as everything else is stock).
4) Did you say you relocked the tablet? If so, why? That was NOT required, and you just f*cked yourself, because you won't be able to flash a custom recovery back without unlocking the bootloader again, which will wipe your sdcard. There is NO reason to relock unless you are returning the device.
5) Again, this is why I hate toolkits. Learn to do things manually and you will be much better off.
At this point, assuming you relocked the bootloader, you will probably need to do a full factory reset and unlock it again. Then flash custom recovery and then flash the update. Or, since it would have been reset at that point, just download the full image from Google and flash that, then flash custom recovery.
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Haha, thanks for answering... the update came back by itself.
I was not aware of anything when i unlocked and rooted my nexus. please bare with me. I'm new to the android scene. but i'm very familiar with the hacking tool, i hacked and unlocked everything i own in my house, from 3 iphones, to my psp , xbox, ps3 and psp. when i first got my hand on the nexus i saw some dead black line of pixel that was appearing for half a second, after i read that a custom kernel can fix it,
I just did it fast and was not in a mood to start learning that sh*t from scratch. so now i'm on 4.2 , i know i lost everything. i will just have to unlock again and and root it....
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Haha, thanks for answering... the update came back by itself.
I was not aware of anything when i unlocked and rooted my nexus. please bare with me. I'm new to the android scene. but i'm very familiar with the hacking tool, i hacked and unlocked everything i own in my house, from 3 iphones, to my psp , xbox, ps3 and psp. when i first got my hand on the nexus i saw some dead black line of pixel that was appearing for half a second, after i read that a custom kernel can fix it,
I just did it fast and was not in a mood to start learning that sh*t from scratch. so now i'm on 4.2 , i know i lost everything. i will just have to unlock again and and root it....
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Understood, and "hacking" android, especially Google devices, is pretty easy once you know what you are doing. The reason I dislike toolkits is that it prevents people from understanding the process, which really is fairly easy to understand, and can complicate troubleshooting steps.
The bootloader can easily be unlocked and locked. It takes one command and it's done. In order to flash anything with fastboot, you need it to be unlocked. The problem is, when you do this, it factory resets the device. So if you inadvertantly relock it, your going to need to reset it to unlock it again.
Even without the toolkit, going from unopened stock Nexus7 to fully rooted, updated and custom firmware Nexus7 only takes maybe 10 minutes, and 9 minutes of that is waiting for it to finish doing the various steps (flashing, rebooting, etc.). The most time consuming part is, unless you have good backups, restoring all your apps and settings. Titanium Backup is the best tool (IMHO) for that.
But yeah, in this case, you're going to need to unlock/wipe again. However, you CAN backup your "sdcard" to your computer and push the files back to it after the wipe. That can be very time consuming depending on how much you have.
OK I got the notification to update today it's MMB29S, I am on K. I am rooted but stock, unlocked using systemless root for root. I've always been rooted and expected it to fail and have to install manually but this time because I'm not rooted like the old way. So i downloaded and went to install to my surprise dead Android with the triangle didn't show but it went to custom recovery screen twrp. I just hit restart because I've never not had a fail and never seen it do this before. Well when it restarted I was not updated and still on K. I also for the life of me can't get it to redo the ota. Tried to clear system service in apps and recheck but nothing.
So my question is since I'm new to systemless root what should I have done when it went to custom recovery? So that way if I can get it to pop up again I can be updated. Thank you in advance for any help and it would be awesome if possible to update this way without having to manually do it.
My best guess, based on what Chainfire replied to me when I asked about OTA, is that because you're somehow rooted the OTA will refuse to install. He said that using the "unroot" function in v2.63 (and I suppose in subsequent versions) he was able to apply the OTA and then just had to re-root.
As to the OTA, I read in the long-distant past that once it's been provided to your device you sort of go to the back of the queue, and even pressing the "check for system update" button has no effect. One day your turn will come again. When it happens, before you press the "install now" button, use the unroot function, reboot, and give it another go.
And I would really appreciate it if you could report back on the success or failure, just so we all know - thanks...
And before I close... your alternative is just to download the full ROM from Google, unzip everything in sight (including the zip within the zip), copy system.img to a convenient folder, and use Fastboot to flash system. After that you'll need to re-root (simple flash) and when you reboot everything will be as it was, apart from the version and security update date. I did it myself to MMB29S a week or so ago.
But my lawyer advises me to advise you to take a full backup first and store it off your device before you do anything to your device - just in case, you know?
I will definitely reply if I get the update again in a few days. If it doesn't I'll probably do it manually. I was just really surprised I hadn't gotten the error, just so used to it. Thank you for the info though.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but to install an OTA don't you need to be completely stock, including recovery?
If I'm not mistaken but since 4.3 (I'm probably wrong) if your rooted (before systemless root) when you try to the ota you will always get the dead Android because rooting changes the system files causing the update when it does is checks to think your system is corrupt.
Also it was really bad when people tried going from 5.x.x to 6.x even doing it manually some of us got bootlooped or when starting the phone up after updating manually saying system is corrupt but still starting up fine. Leaving like me having to completely clear out everything and installing the factory image just to not be corrupt and able to use Android pay.
Systemless root though I've not had a single problem and still able to use AP. And is also the first time in years I've gotten as far as I did with the OTA.
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OK I got the notification to update today it's MMB29S, I am on K. I am rooted but stock, unlocked using systemless root for root. I've always been rooted and expected it to fail and have to install manually but this time because I'm not rooted like the old way. So i downloaded and went to install to my surprise dead Android with the triangle didn't show but it went to custom recovery screen twrp. I just hit restart because I've never not had a fail and never seen it do this before. Well when it restarted I was not updated and still on K. I also for the life of me can't get it to redo the ota. Tried to clear system service in apps and recheck but nothing.
So my question is since I'm new to systemless root what should I have done when it went to custom recovery? So that way if I can get it to pop up again I can be updated. Thank you in advance for any help and it would be awesome if possible to update this way without having to manually do it.
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These small ota's can be done with boot modifications because they don't include any boot.img changes and if they do then they just blanket overwrite what's already there. The only part that is checked is /system. However TWRP won't ever install an ota update for compatibility reasons. Even if you reflash the stock recovery then you'll fail the ota because when you installed TWRP it protected itself (by modifying /system) from being overwritten by the stock recovery which is what unmodded stock android will always do on boot by default. And there are 2 things the ota verification looks for when updating: 1. It looks for whether /system has been ever mounted as Read/Write. 2. It hash checks the /system, if it finds any mismatch it fails. As for the update not showing up again, the ota checker hides the update after a failure to stop from flooding the download server. If you want to extract the update zip you can look in /cache for the zip. But since you don't have an unmodded /system you might as well just download the newest factory image and manually flash the system.img
You can use Wug NRT, unroot with MMB29S provided in the NRT , then root.
I have a TMobile Note 4 SM-N910T. It's currently on 5.1.1 stock and I just got the OTA Marshmallow update notification. I'd like to try Marshmallow out, but if I allow the OTA update, will I be able to root it later? Or is 6.0.1 unrootable (for now)? If I root it now (before updating to MM) will I still get the OTA update? And will it still be rooted after the update? So many questions!
ota then root
I OTA'ed, now the phone randomly reboots several times a day, and some apps don't work correctly. Great.
factory reset.
*sigh* I was afraid you were going to say that. Now the problem is backing it up. I have a Titanium Backup Pro license, but I only use it on my old rooted GS2. The Note 4 is not rooted so TB won't run on it. All the rooting tutorials say "back up your phone before you root" but you need root to run TB. Chicken or egg? I guess I could try Samsung Kies, don't know if it will back up everything. My photos are backed up to Google Photos, I guess everything else is replaceable, but I would really rather not have to reinstall all my apps one by one after a factory reset.
That brings up another question: when you to go Settings/Backup and Reset, I have "Backup my data" set to On and linked to my Google account, but nowhere can I find documentation of exactly WHAT gets backed up or to WHERE (it says to "Google servers" but what the heck does that mean? I can't find it on my Google Drive or anywhere else on my Google account dashboard.)
I do greatly appreciate your help, by the way.
You could try reinstalling through kies or smart switch. Make sure to clear caches before and after. And see if that works. If it doesnt help, you could flash recovery, root, try to backup as much as you can between reboots and then factory reset. Your apps should automatically download from play store. But without the titbackup files you'll lose settings and data in a lot of apps that Google doesn't backup.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.
kydar said:
I have a TMobile Note 4 SM-N910T. It's currently on 5.1.1 stock and I just got the OTA Marshmallow update notification. I'd like to try Marshmallow out, but if I allow the OTA update, will I be able to root it later? Or is 6.0.1 unrootable (for now)? If I root it now (before updating to MM) will I still get the OTA update? And will it still be rooted after the update? So many questions!
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Were you able to downgrade back to 5.1.1? My phone also download the MM ota but I haven't installed it. I rooted 5.1.1 first and am trying to locate where exactly the MM ota downloaded to.
Been hearing too much about problems with MM.
Shad0wsabr3 said:
Were you able to downgrade back to 5.1.1? My phone also download the MM ota but I haven't installed it. I rooted 5.1.1 first and am trying to locate where exactly the MM ota downloaded to.
Been hearing too much about problems with MM.
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There aren't that many problems with MM. Just superficial stuff like not having mobile data toggle. The problems you are hearing about a factory reset will fix. Like lag, jankyness, apps loading, phone freezing temporarily. You won't be able to do OTA. It will fail because of root. You need to titanium backup or whatever method you prefer of backing up data and flash through kies, odin or smart switch. Probably easier to go that route unless you only did minor things with root like just block ads, then you can probably get away with flashing stock recovery and then OTA. You still might have to factory reset like I had to even though I flashed whole rom through smart switch. If you have xposed or modified something like swapping recent apps and back key like me, then you'll need to flash marshmallow whole and start over after backing up.
Afaik, you can't downgrade to 5.1.1 unless somebody figured out a workaround or you only flashed everything except bootloader.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.
@Shad0wsabr3, my phone gave me the choice to delay the upgrade for a while, but eventually just did it without my consent. I suppose you could download stock 5.1.1 from sammobile if you really wanted to downgrade. I just wish I could figure out how to back up my (unrooted) phone so I could then do a factory reset and see if it helps the problems I'm having.
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@Shad0wsabr3, my phone gave me the choice to delay the upgrade for a while, but eventually just did it without my consent. I suppose you could download stock 5.1.1 from sammobile if you really wanted to downgrade. I just wish I could figure out how to back up my (unrooted) phone so I could then do a factory reset and see if it helps the problems I'm having.
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Iv never backed up an unrooted device so I wouldn't know. Glad you nrought that up as Iv been meaning to look into that.
Would you happen to know where the downloaded ota file location is? My phone downloaded it and I keep postponing it.
Sorry, idk exactly where in the file system it is. All I can caution you again is, I kept postponing it and postponing it, and then one day the phone just popped up a message saying it was going to reboot and update, whether I liked it or not. Well, it didn't actually SAY whether I liked it or not but it did decide that I had postponed the update long enough and it was going to apply the update, giving me no option to postpone it any longer. That sort of pissed me off.
Please let me know if you come up with a backup solution. I've tried SimpleADB or whatever it is called these days, and another app that claimed to be able to back up an unrooted phone. Neither of them worked as advertised.
Where are the root instructions for completely stock 910T with MM update?
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Where are the root instructions for completely stock 910T with MM update?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...overy-n910t-t3-marshmallow-pe3-guide-t3406870
kydar said:
Sorry, idk exactly where in the file system it is. All I can caution you again is, I kept postponing it and postponing it, and then one day the phone just popped up a message saying it was going to reboot and update, whether I liked it or not. Well, it didn't actually SAY whether I liked it or not but it did decide that I had postponed the update long enough and it was going to apply the update, giving me no option to postpone it any longer. That sort of pissed me off.
Please let me know if you come up with a backup solution. I've tried SimpleADB or whatever it is called these days, and another app that claimed to be able to back up an unrooted phone. Neither of them worked as advertised.
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I'm still researching what your dealing with. As for me I found the ota file. For those looking for it this is how and where I found it....
With RomToolbox I went to root browser. Then to data folder and a folder named fota. Within the fota folder is the ota update named update.zip. I erased that and then went into Titanium Backup and chose to freeze both software update files. So far no constant reminders that I have an update ready to be installed.
Hope this may help.
So my L09 p9 is on 190 at the moment and it was rooted with twrp installed.
I finally got the update to Nougat notice today so I returned to stock recovery and also unrooted the phone. I remember having to do this in the past to update.
So I download the update via the prompt (which takes way too long!) and my phone reboots to attempt to install. This is where the problem starts. It gets less than 1%of the way through the install and it fails (without telling me why).
What am I doing wrong?
Do I need to relock the bootloader? Will that wipe my phone?
This feels way too complicated at the moment, rooting and flashing used to be so much easier!!
I've tried to install the update 5 times now and failed every time. Fresh download every time.
Another update, I think I might need to Uninstall xposed then remove twrp and unroot.
Going to try tomorrow.
You need to have your phone returned to stock, as much as possible. So unrooted, with the stock recovery and bootloader locked. I think when you lock your bootloader, it will wipe your phone.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I have to root again and remove xposed then unroot again and then update. I don't think I have to lock the bootloader again.