[Q] Rogers Captivate Voodoo LagFix - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Am I able to install the Voodoo lag fix on my Captivate? I know the AT&T version is supported but I rather not brick my device. Please respond!
Thanks,
Androidfann

I have a Rogers Captivate, and I have used Voodoo for a while.
Make sure you have root access, and go nuts. It really does improve the quality.

have u used voodoo with 2.2?
i just got the captivate and am now on stock 2.2 with root and oclf installed. is it worth changing to voodoo?

ssjkakarot said:
have u used voodoo with 2.2?
i just got the captivate and am now on stock 2.2 with root and oclf installed. is it worth changing to voodoo?
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OCLF uses ext2, which is less safe than ext4, which is used by Voodoo. If you want Voodoo, flash the JJ4 + Voodoo kernel in the dev section.

ssjkakarot said:
have u used voodoo with 2.2?
i just got the captivate and am now on stock 2.2 with root and oclf installed. is it worth changing to voodoo?
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Depends. The newer Kernals really unlock a lot of features that we didn't have before, and you don't have now.
If you use your phone as your media player, than the benefits of Voodoo sound were enough to make me switch.

hey guys, i got the official rogers 2.2, can i still use voodoo? what good roms use rogers 2.2 as a base and include voodoo? any suggestions?

Hey folks, another Canadian Rogers Captivate user here...just wanted to confirm if I can use the Voodoo stable 5.4.1 for Froyo 2.2.1 as it looks like I'm on 2.2 stock (and rooted)? I'm new to android and a bit scared, but the Voodoo fix seems easy enough..

No one seems to be answering the main question posed here.
For us STOCK Rogers froyo users which version of voodoo should we use?
I am not running a custom rom, I have not used Odin (used Kies to install official froyo update). I can't seem to find a version of voodoo lagfix specifically for stock Rogers 2.2. If anyone e has it installed can you point us in the right direction?
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Flash the .tar version of this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
Using this version of ODIN http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20958367/Odin3 v1.3.exe
If you need further instruction to do so, PM me and I will walk you through it.

Thanks for the reply..i havent read much about speed mod. Am I to understand theres no voodoo option for rogers 2.2?
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Hi there to all asking about Voodoo for Rogers,
I have tried suckerpunch (based on speedmod)
Also tried the newest speedmod 13c
No problems with either.
I personally have tried voodoo (5.4.1 and the one for att captivate) with no luck at all.

phrenicthenub said:
Thanks for the reply..i havent read much about speed mod. Am I to understand theres no voodoo option for rogers 2.2?
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People have been using the SpeedMod kernel which is the Rolls Royce of kernels; it enables a lot of the Captivates features and power. However, the Kernel is based on the i9000 kernel, which is the sister handset to the Captivate. The kernels are compatible across both phones, but the stock modems on captivates don't seem to do as well with some setups; you'll see this in the sprawling thread dedicated to that topic. Some people will flash an i9000 modem as well, and people seem to have varying results with different combinations.
Having said that, if you don't want to use bluetooth, the stock modem is perfectly serviceable. You could go ahead and flash your SpeedMod kernel and see vast improvements is phone function without tweaking in the handset's general recovery menu. There's also plenty there to keep the tweaksters busy
However, new to the scene is the same developers amalgam of his voodoo lagfix in a stock Rogers Froyo kernel. I'm running it now and I am still testing and checking things, but it seems fine though. There are some caveats to respect though, I just spent nearly an entire day getting my phone back to Stock Froyo after doing a bad job of 'un'lagfixing before flashing kernels. However, if it's your first endeavour into flashing or modifying your phone's software, it would be a relatively safe bet. You should not have any lagfix installed nor should you even think about doing it without doing a Titanium Backup of your phone, which would mean rooting.
Hope that helps a bit.

Clemmei.. I saw in the description of your phone that has the official version of Gingerbread 2.3.3 AT&T Gingerbread in your captivate ... How did you install, by odin? I have a Captivate I897 UCKB1, i´m interested in this oficial Rom.. Works fine?? And what version i need to chose for my modems.. Thanks!!

lapiz1618 said:
Clemmei.. I saw in the description of your phone that has the official version of Gingerbread 2.3.3 AT&T Gingerbread in your captivate ... How did you install, by odin? I have a Captivate I897 UCKB1, i´m interested in this oficial Rom.. Works fine?? And what version i need to chose for my modems.. Thanks!!
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There is a 1-click Gingerbread UCKF1 thread in the dev forum. Thats what I am currently running and its working well so far.. The only issue I have is my GPS is crap.. but it was crap with stock froyo aswell so no big deal there.
I'm on the rogers i896 also.

erbsmokah said:
There is a 1-click Gingerbread UCKF1 thread in the dev forum. Thats what I am currently running and its working well so far.. The only issue I have is my GPS is crap.. but it was crap with stock froyo aswell so no big deal there.
I'm on the rogers i896 also.
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But this rom is official, created by the AT&T..?? Or not?? Thanks for your quick response..

lapiz1618 said:
But this rom is official, created by the AT&T..?? Or not?? Thanks for your quick response..
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It's sort of officially unofficial. It would seem to be a prebuild for a forthcoming Gingerbread release, it's tight and a great daily driver.
I did use Odin; follow the usual safety procedures and all will be well. The modem that comes with the package is great, but my 4G no longer works, it's 3G for now, but I got terrible 4G speeds anyway, so there's not much of a downgrade there.
The GPS did not function so great straight away, but I keyed in the code *#3214789650# - Settings - SUPL Settings, and changed the server to supl.google.com and the server port to 7276. I got much better results from that configuration.
Hope that helps!

Thanks for the help of gps friend ... I have it installed and this great .. But you have some voovoo installed, can not find any on the net .. The voodoo 5.5.x served me just to change the start GTI9000, I do not like .. Thanks for your help..

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[Q] Don't wanna brick my phone.......Please, advise...

I have done reading a lot of post recently.
I brick'ed my cappy once, I reflash the stock kernel, and it came back alive.
After that, I managed flashing my I897 into Foyo 2.2 and with Cog 2.4.1 Rom.
So far so good.
I am still very afraid of brick my cappy again.
So, I decided post question here, just to clear my mind.
If I wanna flash it into an I9000 Rom from Cog 2.4.1 Rom
What are the right steps ??
My current system config is listed here
Firmware 2.2
Baseband Version - I897 UCJJ4
Kernel Version - 2.6.32.9
Build Number - Cognition. v2.4.1
The best thing you can do is decide which i9000 Rom you want to flash to and read the OP of that thread for exactly how to flash. It is gonna require both odin and clockwork though. Which Rom are you wanting to go to?
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Gurgs said:
The best thing you can do is decide which i9000 Rom you want to flash to and read the OP of that thread for exactly how to flash. It is gonna require both odin and clockwork though. Which Rom are you wanting to go to?
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From your opinion, which I9000 Rom is most popular ?? (This might be the best one i think)
Is it ganna be better than Cog's I897 rom ??
Really I prefer to stick with cognition but there is no denying that setirons kernel is the best one going right now but it doesn't play well with cognition. If I was going to go i9000 I would use mikeymikes conversion of docs Rom...it looks really nice and everyone in that thread loves it.

What should i do next?

hi, i'm new to android, and just get my captivate(rogers) few hr ago. and upgraded to 2.2
i did some research, mostly saying that 2.2 captivate has screen lag problem
and i know it can be fix, by lagfix, but how do i start?
i know there is some app in market to do that, but is it safe?
what happen if my phone become brick ?
if i use the ryanZA's one click lag fix 2.0, do i need to root my phone?
if yes how do i root? z4root?
please help me. thank you
Go to the Captivate Development section and the go to stickies and then read captivate directory. In there should be a link to a guide to rooting the rogers captivate.
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Dupontrocks11 said:
Go to the Captivate Development section and the go to stickies and then read captivate directory. In there should be a link to a guide to rooting the rogers captivate.
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does that mean i have to root my phone before using OCLF 2.0?
bbto said:
does that mean i have to root my phone before using OCLF 2.0?
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yup! pretty much.. You should also look into the voodoo lagfix as it is much better than oclf.
I would avoid oclf. It is obsolete
mcord11758 said:
I would avoid oclf. It is obsolete
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rpicaso said:
yup! pretty much.. You should also look into the voodoo lagfix as it is much better than oclf.
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thank you very much.
i installed oclf already. will it cause problem if i undo it and uninstall ext2 tools?
also, i used SuperOneClick rooted my phone, is it good or bad?
i search voodoo and got this thread [KERNEL] Project Voodoo stable, lagfix.....
is this the right one?
which one should i use XYJS3, XXJPY, XXJPX??
my phone is Froyo.UXJL1
bbto said:
thank you very much.
i installed oclf already. will it cause problem if i undo it and uninstall ext2 tools?
also, i used SuperOneClick rooted my phone, is it good or bad?
i search voodoo and got this thread [KERNEL] Project Voodoo stable, lagfix.....
is this the right one?
which one should i use XYJS3, XXJPY, XXJPX??
my phone is Froyo.UXJL1
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That one would probably be decent. undo ext2 and uninstall oclf. Get neldar's sgs kernel flasher app from market and back up your current kernel, then install the new kernel. if any problems arise, simply restore your previous kernel with sgs kernel flasher. good luck!
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That one would probably be decent. undo ext2 and uninstall oclf. Get neldar's sgs kernel flasher app from market and back up your current kernel, then install the new kernel. if any problems arise, simply restore your previous kernel with sgs kernel flasher. good luck!
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thanks....and thank you so much, letting me know oclf is not good....
it take me some time to uninstall it oclf....fail few time when uninstalling ext2 tools...after researching on google, finally undo lagfix, uninstall ext2 tools, uninstall oclf.
and i installed sgs kernel flasher.
and which one should use XYJS3, XXJPY, XXJPX??.
it dont look right for my i896.
sorry for my stupid questions.
The one you mentioned earlier, or one of these should work for you.
Speedmod - Based on JPX Android 2.2.1 kernel source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
Firebird 2 v0.4 - Based on Giorgio Armani Android 2.2 kernel source
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912684
Both of these are fast as well.
Hey guys, I'm also interested in upgrading from OCLF to the voodoo lagfix; how will flashing the kernel give me a performance improvement? Will voodoo work without the kernel flash?
*EDIT*- Also, does voodoo lagfix for the i-897 work for the i-896? I'm on Rogers.
rpicaso said:
The one you mentioned earlier, or one of these should work for you.
Speedmod - Based on JPX Android 2.2.1 kernel source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
Firebird 2 v0.4 - Based on Giorgio Armani Android 2.2 kernel source
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912684
Both of these are fast as well.
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thanks again.
i flashed to the firebird. works well score around 1450~1589
but every time i reboot i896(also when it got fully charger-ed), when i got into contact, it take about 5~10sec to load up the contact. is it normal?

[Q] Help me find the right radio...please

OK, I'm running Cognition 3.04 with the Speedmod Kernal.
People are telling me they can't understand me on the phone. For what I've learned through flashing over the past few months and reading around, I believe I need a different radio. Am I wrong? If not, can someone point me in the right direction?
I've seena few references to radios on here, but never with a link or a better explanation as to what details I need to look out for.
Thanks for any help.
check out the modem thread. its a sticky in android development.
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835272
diablo009 said:
check out the modem thread. its a sticky in android development.
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835272
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OK, so should I be looking for modems then? 'Cause I went through that thread and flashed both UCJJ4 and UCJI6 (one at a time of course) but neither fixed the issue.
the problem is not your rom, but your modem, i believe. try jl2, jk4 if you are on i9000 rom.
mengbo said:
the problem is not your rom, but your modem, i believe. try jl2, jk4 if you are on i9000 rom.
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Try JK4.
mengbo said:
the problem is not your rom, but your modem, i believe. try jl2, jk4 if you are on i9000 rom.
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Hmm...Cognition is made specifically for Captivate...was it wrong to assume is was a i867 ROM?
Is there an easy way to tell on the phone which model my ROM is built for? The "Baseband Version" reads I897UCJI6. Is that a hint?
Thanks for your help guys.
Your problem is you're using an i9000 kernel with a captivate modem. Cog is considered a pure captivate rom, so if you installed speedmod (which is based on an i9000 kernel) you need an i9000 modem. I think JK4 seems to be the most popular
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Arg! But I installed the Speedmod Kernel made for Captivate!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
This is so frustrating...I'm trying to not be a newb and figure this stuff out, but things that say they're for i897 aren't...ugh.
Well, I flashed JK4 and it works. So I guess the speedmod for Captivate isn't actually for Captivate.
toekneebullard said:
Arg! But I installed the Speedmod Kernel made for Captivate!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
This is so frustrating...I'm trying to not be a newb and figure this stuff out, but things that say they're for i897 aren't...ugh.
Well, I flashed JK4 and it works. So I guess the speedmod for Captivate isn't actually for Captivate.
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Things that are for the captivate are for the captivate and the version of the speedmod kernel you flashed from the captivate forum is for the captivate, but...
What everyone is talking about above is what those things were ORIGINALLY designed and built for. In short most things out there were originally built for the i9000 (since AT&T is dragging their feet on releases) and then ported over to the captivate, meaning the code, config, etc. is changed a bit to work with the captivate. So what everyone is saying above is that speedmod started as an i9000 kernel and works best with an i9000 based modem.

[Q] Kernel / Wolfson DAC: not sure what to do

I have installed COG 3.03 and find it great.
I want to unleash the power of the Wolfson DAC , and for that it seems I need a compatible kernel.When I installed the Voodoo App I got the message to do so.
Now I have search many, many, many threads, and I am MORE confused if anything; can someone point me towards the correct (and clear! 100 pages long threads make it very confusing to see what is the consensus) info for the following questions:
Which kernel should I choose?
How do I install it?
Do I HAVE to change my modem if I change the kernel?
Will the kernel swap have any incidence on future ROM choice I might do?
Will changing the kernel do anything to my reception (which is super great)?
Any help is appreciated; again, I tried understanding what to do by myself like a big boy, but I got to read so many threads in some many directions, that I can't make a clear choice....
Samsung Galaxy S
Firmware 2.2
Baseband I896UXJL1
Kernel 2.6.32.9
Cognition 3.03. Update 2​
Hmmm, isn't this what Supercurio is doing with his kernel drivers? Some kernels in here already have supercurio's code in, and you also need to use the app he made.
I think almost all recent kernels support it. If it says supports voodoo sound there you go. Try hardcores kernel.
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Supercurio's audio thread has a link to all the kernels with Voodoo Sound. You can also just look for the phrase "Voodoo sound" in the short description.
Unfortunately, AFAIK every Voodoo sound kernel for Captivate is i9000/i9010-based, which means you'll have to switch modems (and lose bluetooth calls, unless you also switch to a different ROM) as well.
I'm sort of amazed no one put this and BLN into the native-Captivate Rogers Froyo source yet. DG said he had a test version of this combo *weeks* ago, but no release thread. And somehow no other kernel devs are interested...
Oh yeah, someone will kill this thread im sure cause it doesn't belong here. Should be in q and a.
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Yeah, I see this thread being moved or locked soon.
I run Cognition 3.04 with hardcore's speedmod kernel, which has the Voodoo Sound 4 drivers in it. I use the T959D TLJL3 modem which gives me great reception and killer data speeds.
When you flash a new ROM, you'll probably be wiping and reinstalling everything anyway, so chances are you would have to flash whatever kernel/modem flavor you choose again anyway.
So:
Which kernel should I choose?
Any REORIENTED i9000 kernel with Voodoo Sound 4 will do.
How do I install it?
Most of them have the option to use either Odin or Clockworkmod Recovery. Since you're already using Cognition, make sure the Clockworkmod Recovery that you use has RED FONT. If you're installing the speedmod kernel it will be GREEN FONT thereafter.
Do I HAVE to change my modem if I change the kernel?
Since you're probably going to be flashing a reoriented i9000 kernel, i9000 modems will work best. I've had no problem running the JJ4 Captivate modem, but others have. Also, like I said above, the T959D TLJL3 modem is great.
Will the kernel swap have any incidence on future ROM choice I might do?
See above.
Will changing the kernel do anything to my reception (which is super great)?
This is certainly more affected by your modem than your kernel. I haven't seen kernels have any great effect on this.
HOWEVER, it's worth mentioning that i9000 kernels will chew up more battery than Captivate ones. Don't count on more than 20 hours of battery life... if you can even get that on a stock phone, LOL.
To flash a new kernal you can either use CWR or SGS kernal flasher from the market to install it. You do not have to change the modem when you change the kernal and when it comes to picking one that will work with voodoo you can usuall find that out in the original post.
Xaltotun said:
I have installed COG 3.03 and find it great.
I want to unleash the power of the Wolfson DAC , and for that it seems I need a compatible kernel.When I installed the Voodoo App I got the message to do so.
Now I have search many, many, many threads, and I am MORE confused if anything; can someone point me towards the correct (and clear! 100 pages long threads make it very confusing to see what is the consensus) info for the following questions:
Which kernel should I choose?
How do I install it?
Do I HAVE to change my modem if I change the kernel?
Will the kernel swap have any incidence on future ROM choice I might do?
Will changing the kernel do anything to my reception (which is super great)?
Any help is appreciated; again, I tried understanding what to do by myself like a big boy, but I got to read so many threads in some many directions, that I can't make a clear choice....
Samsung Galaxy S
Firmware 2.2
Baseband I896UXJL1
Kernel 2.6.32.9
Cognition 3.03. Update 2​
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I am using cog 3.04 with the firebird 2 ver1 and jk4 modem to use voodoo control. I flash back to stock cog.3.04 kernel & modem when I want to use bluetooth. Speed mod kernel caused my phone issues. Seems to be trial and error with each phone, good luck with your set up

Can I install CM7 on 2.1 kernel?

Hi guys, another newbie question from me
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I flash a v2.1 SBF, then the kernel will also be flashed to v2.1 as well right?
Ok, so we also have a variety of custom roms. Some are based on v2.2 kernel, while some are for v2.1.
Now my question is, I know that CM7 is based on v2.2 kernel. Currently, I'm using a stock v2.1 SBF, so the kernel is also v2.1 as well. I want to know that despite this, can I still flash CM7 custom rom (which again is based on v2.2 kernel) on my phone? Or can I only flash a CM6 custom rom that is based on v2.1 kernel?
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Hi guys, another newbie question from me
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I flash a v2.1 SBF, then the kernel will also be flashed to v2.1 as well right?
Ok, so we also have a variety of custom roms. Some are based on v2.2 kernel, while some are for v2.1.
Now my question is, I know that CM7 is based on v2.2 kernel. Currently, I'm using a stock v2.1 SBF, so the kernel is also v2.1 as well. I want to know that despite this, can I still flash CM7 custom rom (which again is based on v2.2 kernel) on my phone? Or can I only flash a CM6 custom rom that is based on v2.1 kernel?
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Are you rooted on stock 2.1? Even CM6 is on the 2.2.1 kernel, so you would have to flash the 2.2 Vulnerable Recovery and then reroot, if I'm not mistaken.
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i think you can flash CM7 (if you editing rom)
XT720 use milestone's rom on 29 kernel
chaoscreater said:
Hi guys, another newbie question from me
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I flash a v2.1 SBF, then the kernel will also be flashed to v2.1 as well right?
Ok, so we also have a variety of custom roms. Some are based on v2.2 kernel, while some are for v2.1.
Now my question is, I know that CM7 is based on v2.2 kernel. Currently, I'm using a stock v2.1 SBF, so the kernel is also v2.1 as well. I want to know that despite this, can I still flash CM7 custom rom (which again is based on v2.2 kernel) on my phone? Or can I only flash a CM6 custom rom that is based on v2.1 kernel?
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your kernel will update after install the CM7, because CM7 contain the new 2.2 kernel, you can flash CM7 directly, but remember to flash the BPSW update.
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Are you rooted on stock 2.1? Even CM6 is on the 2.2.1 kernel, so you would have to flash the 2.2 Vulnerable Recovery and then reroot, if I'm not mistaken.
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Yes i'm rooted on stock 2.1. Initially, I couldn't get into OpenRecovery after flashing the stock 2.1 SBF, whereas I could when I was on stock 2.2. I did some searching and found this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
and flashed the vulnerable recovery and now everything works fine. I got my phone rooted and currently using the TelusLite v5.2 for Eclair. However, i'm not sure if the vulnerable recovery is the 2.2 or not, i'm guessing it is?
Charles_l said:
your kernel will update after install the CM7, because CM7 contain the new 2.2 kernel, you can flash CM7 directly, but remember to flash the BPSW update.
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Ok now i'm confused. From what I know, the bootloader for Motorola devices like the Milestone is locked. Therefore, we can't properly flash a custom rom on the phone, and we can't flash a different kernel either (which is why if you try to change one of the settings that relate to the kernel in OpenRecovery, you'll brick your phone).
So I've always thought that only flashing a stock SBF will change the kernel, and that the custom roms will rely on the stock kernel, hence why there're custom roms for different Android versions, like Eclair and Froyo? So ya i'm a little bit confused here.
Also, what's the BPSW update? What does it stand for and is that included in the CM7 custom rom topic? I couldn't find it and Google didn't find anything either.....
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Yes i'm rooted on stock 2.1. Initially, I couldn't get into OpenRecovery after flashing the stock 2.1 SBF, whereas I could when I was on stock 2.2. I did some searching and found this:
http://android.doshaska.net/rootable
and flashed the vulnerable recovery and now everything works fine. I got my phone rooted and currently using the TelusLite v5.2 for Eclair. However, i'm not sure if the vulnerable recovery is the 2.2 or not, i'm guessing it is?
Ok now i'm confused. From what I know, the bootloader for Motorola devices like the Milestone is locked. Therefore, we can't properly flash a custom rom on the phone, and we can't flash a different kernel either (which is why if you try to change one of the settings that relate to the kernel in OpenRecovery, you'll brick your phone).
So I've always thought that only flashing a stock SBF will change the kernel, and that the custom roms will rely on the stock kernel, hence why there're custom roms for different Android versions, like Eclair and Froyo? So ya i'm a little bit confused here.
Also, what's the BPSW update? What does it stand for and is that included in the CM7 custom rom topic? I couldn't find it and Google didn't find anything either.....
Oh and one more thing, I think this is a bug so can someone look into it? The statusbar hides itself and to unhide it, you have to ADWSettings (press the Menu capacitive button, in between the back and home button, and then click More, then choose ADWSettings).
Then, click on System preferences, and the first option is "Hide Statusbar".
The problem is, that option is by default already un-ticked, which means it does NOT hide your statusbar. And yet, the statusbar is hidden........the only way to fix this is to enable the option so that it actually hides it, then close everything and go back to your desktop, and then open ADWSettings again and then un-tick it. This will fix it and make the statusbar appear.
However, if you move your shortcuts/icons on the desktop around, or if you move it to the Trash, then this will undo the statusbar change and will make it hide again. So then you'll have to do this constantly, so I suggest you guys make sure your desktop shortcuts are fully configured, and then make the statusbar change at the end.
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Yes, VR is based on 2.2.
sorry, what does VR stand for? And I still don't understand it, can you please explain?
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sorry, what does VR stand for? And I still don't understand it, can you please explain?
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VR is vulnerable recovery, it's what is on android.doshaska.net/rootable
ahh I see......but I still don't understand the part about the kernel.
I thought that every new firmware version update will use a newer version of the kernel? If yes, then how can custom roms like CM7 that requires kernel for v2.2, be installed on stock v2.1? Unless both the v2.1 and v2.2 stock SBF use the same kernel version? But then again, why are there specific roms for Eclair and Froyo? If you look at this topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966812
the OP says that some of those roms might not work because of different kernels. So it leads me to believe that if you're on stock v2.1, then the kernel is different than if you're on stock v2.2, hence why the custom roms you can install are separated by Eclair and Froyo......
And lastly, if custom roms like CM7 will install the v2.2 kernel, shouldn't that require the bootloader to be unlocked?? I thought we can't change the kernel yet? I'm confused....
chaoscreater said:
ahh I see......but I still don't understand the part about the kernel.
I thought that every new firmware version update will use a newer version of the kernel? If yes, then how can custom roms like CM7 that requires kernel for v2.2, be installed on stock v2.1? Unless both the v2.1 and v2.2 stock SBF use the same kernel version? But then again, why are there specific roms for Eclair and Froyo? If you look at this topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966812
the OP says that some of those roms might not work because of different kernels. So it leads me to believe that if you're on stock v2.1, then the kernel is different than if you're on stock v2.2, hence why the custom roms you can install are separated by Eclair and Froyo......
And lastly, if custom roms like CM7 will install the v2.2 kernel, shouldn't that require the bootloader to be unlocked?? I thought we can't change the kernel yet? I'm confused....
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What you're confusing is that the version of android such as 2.2 is NOT the Kernel. The only way for you to change the kernel per se is to flash an sbf such as the Eclair or Froyo sbf. These are signed by Motorola and have holes in the code that have been exploited so we can flash Custom ROMs. The only things that we can do is flash a custom ROM or flash an SBF through RSD Lite. Kernels cannot be changed otherwise.
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ya I understand that, and that's exactly the reason why i'm confused.....
If you flash a v2.1 SBF, then your Android version is v2.1 (Eclair).
If you flash a v2.2 SBF, then your Android version is v2.2 (Froyo).
Now, the problem is that custom roms like CM7 requires the kernel for Froyo. In other words, you have to flash a stock v2.2 SBF first, so that your phone will be running Froyo and that the kernel will obviously be for Froyo as well.
So what I don't understand is, I'm using Eclair right now because I flashed a New Zealand v2.1 SBF. The Android version I'm running on is Eclair, and the kernel version should be for Eclair as well.
Then why is it that you guys said I can still flash CM7, which requires the kernel for Froyo?
chaoscreater said:
ya I understand that, and that's exactly the reason why i'm confused.....
If you flash a v2.1 SBF, then your Android version is v2.1 (Eclair).
If you flash a v2.2 SBF, then your Android version is v2.2 (Froyo).
Now, the problem is that custom roms like CM7 requires the kernel for Froyo. In other words, you have to flash a stock v2.2 SBF first, so that your phone will be running Froyo and that the kernel will obviously be for Froyo as well.
So what I don't understand is, I'm using Eclair right now because I flashed a New Zealand v2.1 SBF. The Android version I'm running on is Eclair, and the kernel version should be for Eclair as well.
Then why is it that you guys said I can still flash CM7, which requires the kernel for Froyo?
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I have never tried flashing CM7 from Eclair, so I can't tell you that it will work. I upgraded to stock Froyo on Telus the day it came out and got frustrated with it and rooted the same day.
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Hmm well I'd flash to stock Froyo as well, then I wouldn't have a problem installing CM7 because I know it'll definitely work. Except that the kernel for Froyo doesn't work well on my Milestone. Many people have problems with the Froyo kernel, mostly to do with connection problems like wifi or 3g.
I've had problem with my wifi where it connects to my router, but isn't sending/receiving any data. Either that, or it works for 5 mins and then disconnects itself afterwards.
Many people suggested to flash back to stock Eclair, so I did and my wifi works awesome right now and never had a connection problem yet. Currently, i'm using the TelusLite v5.2 custom rom for Eclair, and it works great but I wanna try out custom roms for Cyanogen Mod, like CM6 or CM7.
From what I know, CM6 is for Eclair because it uses the Eclair kernel. Whereas CM7 is for Froyo as it uses the Froyo kernel. However, I think the latest version of CM6 also uses the Froyo kernel, as somebody mentioned it in the CM7 topic somewhere.......so ya I'm pretty sure you CAN'T install CM7 on Eclair since the kernel requirement is different.
And yet, i'm confused with the answer in the 4th post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16834339&postcount=4
chaoscreater said:
Hmm well I'd flash to stock Froyo as well, then I wouldn't have a problem installing CM7 because I know it'll definitely work. Except that the kernel for Froyo doesn't work well on my Milestone. Many people have problems with the Froyo kernel, mostly to do with connection problems like wifi or 3g.
I've had problem with my wifi where it connects to my router, but isn't sending/receiving any data. Either that, or it works for 5 mins and then disconnects itself afterwards.
Many people suggested to flash back to stock Eclair, so I did and my wifi works awesome right now and never had a connection problem yet. Currently, i'm using the TelusLite v5.2 custom rom for Eclair, and it works great but I wanna try out custom roms for Cyanogen Mod, like CM6 or CM7.
From what I know, CM6 is for Eclair because it uses the Eclair kernel. Whereas CM7 is for Froyo as it uses the Froyo kernel. However, I think the latest version of CM6 also uses the Froyo kernel, as somebody mentioned it in the CM7 topic somewhere.......so ya I'm pretty sure you CAN'T install CM7 on Eclair since the kernel requirement is different.
And yet, i'm confused with the answer in the 4th post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16834339&postcount=4
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I haven't heard of Eclair to CM7 directly. Every ROM except for the Eclair roms like you are running now are ALL based on Froyo. GB is based on the Froyo kernel, but is a gingerbread port.
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yup I know. After all, there is no official Gingerbread support for Milestone (yet), that's why we don't have a v2.3 SBF to flash (therefore not able to get the kernel for Gingerbread).
But ya i'm pretty sure I got this sorted, after all the OP did specifically say that some roms might not work due to different kernels, which is mentioned in this topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966812
so ya you either have to flash the stock v2.1 SBF or v2.2 SBF in order to install specific custom roms that you want, depending on what kernel they're based on, right?
Oh well, guess i'll just stay with TelusLite v5.2 for now. It's pretty fast and stable so I guess that's good enough.
chaoscreater said:
yup I know. After all, there is no official Gingerbread support for Milestone (yet), that's why we don't have a v2.3 SBF to flash (therefore not able to get the kernel for Gingerbread).
But ya i'm pretty sure I got this sorted, after all the OP did specifically say that some roms might not work due to different kernels, which is mentioned in this topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966812
so ya you either have to flash the stock v2.1 SBF or v2.2 SBF in order to install specific custom roms that you want, depending on what kernel they're based on, right?
Oh well, guess i'll just stay with TelusLite v5.2 for now. It's pretty fast and stable so I guess that's good enough.
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The issue is that TelusLite is no longer updated. Any issues that you will encounter may not be fixed. I've always found RSD Lite to be finicky, but you can always flash the 2.2 VR and try other ROMs and if you aren't happy, you can reflash the 2.1 and go back to TelusLite.
Many options for you to try out!
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ya it seems like it. But the latest build (v5.2) was updated on July 2011 so it's only a month old? So ya not too bad. I haven't had any issues with it, and all the stuff that I use my phone for works fine on this rom so i'm pretty happy with it.
I only wanted to try out CM7 because it looks nice and that many of my friends recommended me to use it. But ur right, there're still other great roms out there that I can test out.
RSD Lite works well for me, never had a problem with it so i'm pretty happy. At least the flashing and rooting process on Android is fairly easy. Whereas on Windows Mobile or on Maemo (when I still had my Nokia N900), it was a pain in the ass, especially that the flasher program for Maemo doesn't work on Windows 7
Anyway, thanks A LOT for your help. You've helped me in the other topic I posted as well, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my newbie questions
chaoscreater said:
ya it seems like it. But the latest build (v5.2) was updated on July 2011 so it's only a month old? So ya not too bad. I haven't had any issues with it, and all the stuff that I use my phone for works fine on this rom so i'm pretty happy with it.
I only wanted to try out CM7 because it looks nice and that many of my friends recommended me to use it. But ur right, there're still other great roms out there that I can test out.
RSD Lite works well for me, never had a problem with it so i'm pretty happy. At least the flashing and rooting process on Android is fairly easy. Whereas on Windows Mobile or on Maemo (when I still had my Nokia N900), it was a pain in the ass, especially that the flasher program for Maemo doesn't work on Windows 7
Anyway, thanks A LOT for your help. You've helped me in the other topic I posted as well, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my newbie questions
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Anytime! Let me know if you need anything else
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chaoscreater said:
Hmm well I'd flash to stock Froyo as well, then I wouldn't have a problem installing CM7 because I know it'll definitely work. Except that the kernel for Froyo doesn't work well on my Milestone. Many people have problems with the Froyo kernel, mostly to do with connection problems like wifi or 3g.
I've had problem with my wifi where it connects to my router, but isn't sending/receiving any data. Either that, or it works for 5 mins and then disconnects itself afterwards.
Many people suggested to flash back to stock Eclair, so I did and my wifi works awesome right now and never had a connection problem yet. Currently, i'm using the TelusLite v5.2 custom rom for Eclair, and it works great but I wanna try out custom roms for Cyanogen Mod, like CM6 or CM7.
From what I know, CM6 is for Eclair because it uses the Eclair kernel. Whereas CM7 is for Froyo as it uses the Froyo kernel. However, I think the latest version of CM6 also uses the Froyo kernel, as somebody mentioned it in the CM7 topic somewhere.......so ya I'm pretty sure you CAN'T install CM7 on Eclair since the kernel requirement is different.
And yet, i'm confused with the answer in the 4th post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16834339&postcount=4
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Well, you can open a CM7 zip package, you should see a file named "boot.img", that is the kernel, came from the stock Froyo SBF, so that it can pass the bootlooder checking, and it will replace the old kernel during the CM7 installation. That is why the kernel will update to the stock 2.2 kernel after you installed the CM7.
Charles_l said:
Well, you can open a CM7 zip package, you should see a file named "boot.img", that is the kernel, came from the stock Froyo SBF, so that it can pass the bootlooder checking, and it will replace the old kernel during the CM7 installation. That is why the kernel will update to the stock 2.2 kernel after you installed the CM7.
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I see......in that case, can I replace the boot.img with the one for Eclair? I.e, use the 2.1 kernel instead of 2.2? I'm pretty sure this isn't possible since the custom rom is made to work with that particular kernel version, but maybe it does work?

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