What do you think?
Motorola: more RAM, higher resolution display, dock functionality, locked bootloader?
locked bootloader.... that kills it for me
If the bootloader isn't locked on the Atrix, then I'm going with that without hesitation.
You forgot to mention, bigger battery on Atrix as well.
locked bootloader
What do you mean by a "locked bootloader" ???
does it have to do with the ability to flash non official ROMs on the phone ???
Optimus 2x has a 2MP front camera, 8MP rear camera... a big plus compared to the Atrix. With the higher resolution display you won't see much difference unless you look at your phone like you would at a letter in a dark room, more RAM is not that helpful as 512MB is more than enough for an Android device (heck, it's even enough for netbooks and Win XP).
I'd say the only proper advantage is the bigger battery which will definitely make a big difference in day-to-day use.
Atrix. Locked bootloader is only speculation, at the moment. And megapixels is not the be all, end all criteria on picture quality.
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Atrix. Locked bootloader is only speculation, at the moment. And megapixels is not the be all, end all criteria on picture quality.
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+1, but it's not sure about locked bootloader, we are not sure until we see it on the phone, remember what Motorola said:
"“We are working closely with our partners to offer a bootloader solution that will enable developers to use our devices as a development platform while still protecting our users’ interests. More detailed information will follow as we get closer to availability.”
Even if you can change by your self the 2X has the advantage to come with two loaders so you choose the LG homescreen or Vanilla.
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Even if you can change by your self the 2X has the advantage to come with two loaders so you choose the LG homescreen or Vanilla.
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Source? Would be great though.
t3alc said:
Even if you can change by your self the 2X has the advantage to come with two loaders so you choose the LG homescreen or Vanilla.
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Source? Would be great though.
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Agreed. I'd even say Awesome. I may be jealous, if that's the case.
My entire problem with the 2X has to do with it's screen. Why did they opt for an ordinary LCD screen on this phone? For me it may be too hard to go back to a regular screen after owning a samoled.
What really puzzles me is the fact that LG are releasing another phone along with the 2X that supposedly has a much better screen. I believe it's called the LG optimus black iirc. Why not give your highest end product the best screen? Bad decision if you ask me.
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This is from Norwegian amobile http://www.amobil.no/artikler/lg_optimus_2x/80296
Translated with google you can fins this in the text:
"Menu-wise, Optimus 2X quite remote from pure Android menus. LG has made some graphical modifications that resemble the manufacturer's S-Class menus or Samsung Touch Wiz. One should however be able to choose clean Android menus if you wish."
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My entire problem with the 2X has to do with it's screen. Why did they opt for an ordinary LCD screen on this phone? For me it may be too hard to go back to a regular screen after owning a samoled.
What really puzzles me is the fact that LG are releasing another phone along with the 2X that supposedly has a much better screen. I believe it's called the LG optimus black iirc. Why not give your highest end product the best screen? Bad decision if you ask me.
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It's not an all ordinary LCD, it's an IPS display
vapotrini said:
My entire problem with the 2X has to do with it's screen. Why did they opt for an ordinary LCD screen on this phone? For me it may be too hard to go back to a regular screen after owning a samoled.
What really puzzles me is the fact that LG are releasing another phone along with the 2X that supposedly has a much better screen. I believe it's called the LG optimus black iirc. Why not give your highest end product the best screen? Bad decision if you ask me.
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Although I agree SAMOLED is great I wouldn't make such a big issue out of this. You probably only notice the difference in side-by-side comparisons and not in everyday use. Plus LCD is sharper and better in bright sunlight. Oh and it's an IPS LCD (like the iphone and ipad) so good colors and viewing angles.
Atrix now listed on amazon.com for 600 US-Dollar (= 437,062937 Euro) that would be a great price for europe...but i don't think we'll get it that cheap....
maybe i wanna get an atrix if it appears for the same price as the lg in europe and with unlocked bootloader...(cuz of higer res display, dock functionality, more battery power, bio sensor on back, 1gb ram)
get the l 2x, it will be easy to root.
@gizz68erz
Can't remember where I found it. It was on one of the German forums out there but Motorola officially said that they will lock the bootloader to make sure their gadgets like the display dock will work in a proper way.
I will definitely go on the L2X.
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Optimus 2x has a 2MP front camera, 8MP rear camera... a big plus compared to the Atrix. With the higher resolution display you won't see much difference unless you look at your phone like you would at a letter in a dark room, more RAM is not that helpful as 512MB is more than enough for an Android device (heck, it's even enough for netbooks and Win XP).
I'd say the only proper advantage is the bigger battery which will definitely make a big difference in day-to-day use.
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I bet you won't even be able to tell the difference between a 8MP and a 5MP picture. Don't forget that you will look at it on your 2MP HDTV or computer monitor. The problem is that the sensor is way too small to benefit from 8MP. MP is the last thing that we should care about a camera nowadays.
1GB RAM can make a big difference however. Especially since android phones tend to loose some memory for the GPU or something else. There is only about 300MB user accessible on the Galaxy S. I am sure that you would prefer a netbook with 1GB over 512 MB too. I think that this is even more important than CPU MHz.
The higher resolution would also have make a huge difference (especially when browsing web pages), but unfortunately I read the Atrix uses a Pentitle matrix which kills effective resolution. We will have to see which one is brighter and have the best contrast before making any judgment on the screen anyways.
I was really excited about the X2 but the more and more I read about the Atrix the more it seems like its the better phone. Even with the Locked Bootloaded and ATT usually puts and end to non market apps. This Atrix is a beast I use my phone for business so the battery is awesome. I just dont want to pay att higher prices, they are stupid expensive compared to TMO
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Optimus 2x has a 2MP front camera, 8MP rear camera... a big plus compared to the Atrix. With the higher resolution display you won't see much difference unless you look at your phone like you would at a letter in a dark room, more RAM is not that helpful as 512MB is more than enough for an Android device (heck, it's even enough for netbooks and Win XP).
I'd say the only proper advantage is the bigger battery which will definitely make a big difference in day-to-day use.
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2x have 1.3MP front camera only.
The most interesting me was the atrix have fingerprint and upgradeable to 1080p capture : )
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So far, not a 100% fail like the last one imo
Some good features. But Im still pissed at the way Jobs is making out like he invented it all. E.g. 720P video...
Boring... its the same thing. They need one with a bigger screen.
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Boring... its the same thing. They need one with a bigger screen.
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+1.
all phones seem small compared to my HD2
erm.. hardware is good
finally they have added multi-tasking phew
but i hate the interface because if you have loads of apps you have to scroll through loads of pages just to get to an app they haven't done anything about that.
but over all a better iphone to the last
still could be improved alot!
New screen is nice, but its not AMOLED and the resolution is rather pointless when its still a puny 3.5 inches, i call fail on that. The resolution is a way to get around a scaling problem, not a 'feature' in itself. 720P is also nice, but hardly unique, 5MP cam is adequate. OS 4 is meh and has been since it was announced, so im not tempted away, its still a restricted, limited platform controlled by prudish control freaks. The hardware just doesnt creak quite so much (for the time being). A few months later we will see 720P screens and dual core CPUs on devices that cost less all with a better, more open OS.
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New screen is nice, but its not AMOLED and the resolution is rather pointless when its still a puny 3.5 inches, i call fail on that. The resolution is a way to get around a scaling problem, not a 'feature' in itself. 720P is also nice, but hardly unique, 5MP cam is adequate. OS 4 is meh and has been since it was announced, so im not tempted away, its still a restricted, limited platform controlled by prudish control freaks. The hardware just doesnt creak quite so much (for the time being). A few months later we will see 720P screens and dual core CPUs on devices that cost less all with a better, more open OS.
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Agreed.
Its going to take allot to tempt me away from my HD2 (allot more from apple ) I'd think about the EVO 4g if it was in the UK.
But apple has never done it for me...
Overall better job though
Another useless i...e thread
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Boring... its the same thing. They need one with a bigger screen.
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lonelykatana said:
+1.
all phones seem small compared to my HD2
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Agree with all above comments and forthcoming on same line
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Above all its just not good enough, it wont be a hardware leader for very long. Yes its faster than any current HTC and the screen is higher res, but 3.5 inches is not good enough its that simple. Id take 800x480 at 4.3 (or 5) over 960x640 at 3.5 inches ANY day. You have to get pretty close to see the pixels on any current WVGA screen, even the 5 inch Dell Streak.
iphone 4...
yawn...
wake me up when it innovates...
who effing cares....
EVO Ftw!!!!!!!!!!
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Above all its just not good enough, it wont be a hardware leader for very long. Yes its faster than any current HTC and the screen is higher res, but 3.5 inches is not good enough its that simple. Id take 800x480 at 4.3 (or 5) over 960x640 at 3.5 inches ANY day. You have to get pretty close to see the pixels on any current WVGA screen, even the 5 inch Dell Streak.
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A 5" screen does not a cell phone make, you might as well just call it a tablet pc with phone capabilities. If it can't fit in my pocket then it is useless to me, external cell phone holders are for narcissistic douchbags.
the screen res is one of its high points along with front facing camera but fails with teh small screen and the wifi only videochat.
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A 5" screen does not a cell phone make, you might as well just call it a tablet pc with phone capabilities. If it can't fit in my pocket then it is useless to me, external cell phone holders are for narcissistic douchbags.
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The Dell streak does fit in a pocket. I have no problems with it at all. Its just like a thinner HD2 really.
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iphone 4...
yawn...
wake me up when it innovates...
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I agree completely. It's like, it's not anything special at all anymore, now that I know Jobs is a complete tool and lies to the public ("I don't like Flash because it's not open, but here, check out HTML5 in my closed browser").
Same size and weight basically. They say it's thinner, but why are people clamming for thinner phones? That's going to crack!!!!!
720p video? I doubt the quality of this stands up to true 720p video and I dare someone to prove me wrong. I have 720p video on my Olympus EPL1 and I'm sure it blows that mini camera's quality out of the water.
Front-facing camera? Not only do none of the current US networks support this, but do you really think this will take off? Yeah webcams sure did and are everywhere now. As it is now, people using cell phones in my general vicinity are already complete tools, now video calling near me will make them into 150% douchebags.
YAWN is right
My idea of a perfect phone would be the iPhone 4's hardware with Android as software... Don't hate me for saying this, but Apple products truly look high-end.
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My idea of a perfect phone would be the iPhone 4's hardware with Android as software... Don't hate me for saying this, but Apple products truly look high-end.
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I dont hate you for it, i just think you are completely wrong. I hate Apple 'Style'. For me the HD2 is still the best looking device on the market. Its just wonderful to look at, on or off.
256mb of RAM on board a 1Ghz processor? That's like having a Ferrari with a pinto suspension...lol. That and the small screen; Psuedo Hi-Def on a tiny, non-AMOLED screen? I'm just not feeling Apple, never have, and it would take some real innovation to convert me (i.e. never).
Just my 2 cents...
~Jasecloud4
Ive had a phone with >300DPI before, the Nokia N90. It was really nice and looked odd because of the super pixels density, but ultimately a 2.1 inch screen only goes so far. Its the same here. 3.5 is just too small to make the resolution worth it.
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256mb of ram on board a 1ghz processor? That's like having a ferrari with a pinto suspension...lol
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haha awesome!
what do you think about this ?
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-Optimus-Black_id5102
looks more sexy than the 2x
especially on the back, since im a woman, the back sight is important too
;-)
And since you are a woman, you are just looking on what you see and not what's inside
Well, it's indeed a nice phone but not as powerful as the x2.
hey its a very nice and sexy phone, i would recommend it since most people wouldnt really take full advantage of the dual core 2x.
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And since you are a woman, you are just looking on what you see and not what's inside
Well, it's indeed a nice phone but not as powerful as the x2.
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Hahaha that was epic!
What I don't understand is that Optimus Black is supposed to have that great screen, with higher contrast and less energy consumption, so why wouldn't they use that screen in their flagship device (the 2X) ? I mean it's going to be really expensive anyway, so I might as well spend a bit more and have the best possible phone, including the screen.
BlueScreenJunky
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I think so!!!
Because they need each phone to have a key selling point. That's why the 2x doesn't have this screen. Plus the 2x has an IPS thingie majigie screen. not as good as black's screen, S/amoled or retina, but it's right behind them.
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Because they need each phone to have a key selling point. That's why the 2x doesn't have this screen. Plus the 2x has an IPS thingie majigie screen. not as good as black's screen, S/amoled or retina, but it's right behind them.
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Both of the LG's have IPS screens. Apple's Retina is also an IPS screen. The difference is that the black's is a more advanced IPS which is brighter. It's not really a concern for me, I think the 2X's IPS looks plenty bright enough.
I know apple's and black's screen is IPS. Just pointing out that the optimus 2x's screen isn't that bad.
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Both of the LG's have IPS screens. Apple's Retina is also an IPS screen. The difference is that the black's is a more advanced IPS which is brighter. It's not really a concern for me, I think the 2X's IPS looks plenty bright enough.
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Sure like Nokia they put a polarizing filter on it to make black more black. That's it.
Don't forget that iPhone Retina screen is made by LG. The OX2 has in essence the same screen as the iPhone but with lower pixel count.
Weird thing is that both LG and Samsung were a few years ago considered to be "the cheap koreans" and nowadays they're suposedly "high-tech". At least other suposedly better quality brands use their cheap parts in their upscale devices.
They're all ****ing us.
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And since you are a woman, you are just looking on what you see and not what's inside
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Men do the same with women, don't they
Well, it's indeed a nice phone but not as powerful as the x2.
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Nonetheless the cpu should be more then powerfull enough to run the full android experience. If the price is right then perhaps this might be the better option. Because the more I see (and hear) from the X2, the more it dissapoints :-(
I heard that Optimus Black will use OMAP 36~ Soc.
No matter how design is good or not, it sux.
OMAP 3xxx-5xxx has 2-channel memory and not bad architectures. Last series has DDR3 supporting.
Has been launched request to the administrator for opening a section for the Black..
if someone want to support, this is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14047779&posted=1#post14047779
thanks
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Has been launched request to the administrator for opening a section for the Black..
if someone want to support, this is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14047779&posted=1#post14047779
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Seen a number of websites suggest its a direct replacement. Is it do you think or is it just because they are both large screened WP7 devices made by HTC? As the HD7 is getting Mango anyway for owners of this device I am not sure how much of an upgrade for them the Titan is.
Yeah I would say it is the direct replacement. Looking at the specs you get:
- 0.5 inch bigger screen, but no improvement in resolution
- 1.5ghz processor vs 1ghz
- double the battery life
- Point 'n' Shoot quality camera (according to the marketing)
What I really wanted though was an AMOLED screen.
I'll certainly check it out in the shop and compare directly to the HD7.
I would say its replacement for it, but I dont think its worth an upgrade yet, I will wait to see what new phones come out afterward.
Besides I cant go from a 32gb HD7 to a 16GB Titan
I will wait for the Nokia phones to come out next year though
as Nokia does better hardware so I believe
for me the main reason would be the camera as 5MP in the HD7 is not up for me, so hoping to bump it up either 8mp or 12mp
Also all future WP7 will have a front facing camera and skype coming soon as well so that's something to consider.
VERDICT : Titan is a good UPDATE not an UPGRADE I would say
I guess the best bet would be to wait for next year and see what NOKIA really brings to the table as the HD7 will be just fine untill then as it really rocks MANGO, I don't feel the need to change it yet
I thought so, but what has me thinking is that it still hasnt been anounced for TMO USA yet.... and according to this LINK there is gonna be a device named HTC Bresson running Windows Phone released and no mention of Eternity/Titan...
Im curious to see what this "Bresson" could turn out to be... (plus 4.7 is streching it when it comes to size IMO expecially since WP7 has such a minimilistic UI, so such a big screen is unnecessary)
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Yeah I would say it is the direct replacement. Looking at the specs you get:
- 0.5 inch bigger screen, but no improvement in resolution
- 1.5ghz processor vs 1ghz
- double the battery life
- Point 'n' Shoot quality camera (according to the marketing)
What I really wanted though was an AMOLED screen.
I'll certainly check it out in the shop and compare directly to the HD7.
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The fact that they haven't increased the resolution on such a large screen seems something of a poor move, as I would think it would lead to a pretty grainy screen?
To me the Titan will be the next device for me as soon as it comes out in the UK, the only issue I have is that I have got used to having the stand on the back for watching films on the train, I will miss not having that.
You guys forgot to mention that this thing has a FFC as well. This would be a must have for me but all indications are that it is going to AT&T and that us folks at T-Mobile are getting the lesser HTC Omega.
JamesDax said:
You guys forgot to mention that this thing has a FFC as well. This would be a must have for me but all indications are that it is going to AT&T and that us folks at T-Mobile are getting the lesser HTC Omega.
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I thought you weren't getting this device in the US but a different one instead?
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I thought you weren't getting this device in the US but a different one instead?
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Wait.. What??
It's worth the wait, Titan is good but I would rather go with an amoled screen. Hope that Samsung will bring one like the SGS2 has, who knows or maybe I'll wait for a nokia one, atleast I am sure they will be using carl zeis optics on their cams.
Yeah, I'm hoping that the rumored 4.5in Samsung will come to T-Mobile since it looks like we won't be getting the Titan. Anyway, why haven't we heard anything from Samsung about thier new WP7 devices??
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Yeah, I'm hoping that the rumored 4.5in Samsung will come to T-Mobile since it looks like we won't be getting the Titan. Anyway, why haven't we heard anything from Samsung about thier new WP7 devices??
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According to this article, at least as far as the European market is concerned, they are only releasing one mid-range WP7 device.
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2011/birulki-133-en.shtml#4
There is no mention if the North American market will do any better. So unless Nokia produce something interesting my attention is focussed on the Titan at the moment.
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The fact that they haven't increased the resolution on such a large screen seems something of a poor move, as I would think it would lead to a pretty grainy screen?
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Apparently the resolution is down to the OS limitations. The screen of the Titan is "only" 1 cm bigger in the diagonal, and will not affect the resolution of the screen for you to notice.
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Apparently the resolution is down to the OS limitations. The screen of the Titan is "only" 1 cm bigger in the diagonal, and will not affect the resolution of the screen for you to notice.
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I have a p990 and with a custom rom it's a dream x), The screen is beautiful . For me it's a very good phone
I didn't used the P990 (2x) with stock rom for a very long time, in fact 30 minutes, just the time to gather everything to flash cyanogenmod 7.
You may be new on xda but a rom when almost everything works is not a common thing, CM7 rom others based on it for the P990 and P970 (black) everything work.
If you want to stay on stock rom and just root, I won't recommend you a LG phone as they kind of mess up their stock rom.
If can understand how to flash a custom firmware, then both phones you want, have a very good kang (you'll understand this later) by temasek.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421425
I'm using it on P990 and it's a true marvel. I think that I took this one because it's the cheapest dual core phone available. No in fact it's because it has a stable CM7 port. First I wanted the Samsung I9100 (Galaxy S2) which have a powerful dualcore internaly made by samsung but there is I9100G in the wild which is also called Galaxy S2 but have a Texas Instrument CPU. The fact that this version is less powerful than the original one doesn't matter, it just make it not compatible with I9100 roms.
Don't consider the optimus black, dual core is what you want, trust me. Even if the optimus 2x don't have what LG is calling Nova screen, it still a beautiful screen, very sharp (still the iphone 4/4S is a little sharper, just a little) and with gorilla glass. I think it's the first time in 5-6 years that I didn't put screen protector on my phone.
But with the Tegra 2 dual core and the speed of CyanogenMod, everything is so smooth. With 50€ extra, go for the 2x.
If you can wait, the samsung galaxy S3 will arrive and the price of the S2 will drop a little. The 4.3" screen may be too big for you but it has better stock rom than the LG 2X.
But LG Optimus 2x P990 with CyanogenMod7 is something unmatched in the 300€ price range right now.
2x that price is too expensive , if you like app,you should buy iphon4 8g, but the 3.5 screen is too small. Android platform i will consider sumsung galaxy note,bigest screen , or lg optimus lte ,in china it just 2k5 ~= €300
I agree with all of the above (except for the chinese guy).
290 euros is not a big price tag for O2X, at least not on "first world" countries.
Even if you're not a very demanding user you will certainly enjoy flashing a custom ROM. Phone is smoother, more stable, battery life is better, etc. Unless of course you screw it up and brick your phone. But if you follow the instructions step by step (I can help you with that) you should be fine!
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I agree with all of the above (except for the chinese guy).
290 euros is not a big price tag for O2X, at least not on "first world" countries.
Even if you're not a very demanding user you will certainly enjoy flashing a custom ROM. Phone is smoother, more stable, battery life is better, etc. Unless of course you screw it up and brick your phone. But if you follow the instructions step by step (I can help you with that) you should be fine!
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i mean €290 for 2X is not worth , just 1 year the hardware is way behind. don't we consider ' cost performance' , maybe you shouldn't care the damn €520+ like some chinese, there are iphone4s everywhere in china.
chenjiaru said:
i mean €290 for 2X is not worth , just 1 year the hardware is way behind. don't we consider ' cost performance' , maybe you shouldn't care the damn €520+ like some chinese, there are iphone4s everywhere in china.
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My friend, can you tell me what's better than an O2X for 290 eur?
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chenjiaru said:
2x that price is too expensive , if you like app,you should buy iphon4 8g, but the 3.5 screen is too small. Android platform i will consider sumsung galaxy note,bigest screen , or lg optimus lte ,in china it just 2k5 ~= €300
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Its great price for it. Only reason for such price drop is that first wave of o2xs was crap and people lost trust in that phone.
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA
I can only talk about what I've tried.
I "test-drove" the phone for about three weeks with stock ROM and I liked it, didn't have any problems, no sleep of deaths, battery life was ok.
Then I tried temasek's kang and vadonka's kernel, and what was already good just got excellent. Phone is ultra stable, great performance, great battery life.
Regarding camera quality, obviously removing the plastic cover will get you better quality as you will not have distortion from the plastic, but be careful as this plastic is there to protect your camera lens. As long as you don't scratch the plastic cover you shouldn't have any trouble. Quality is acceptable for me... for a phone camera, obviously.
Flashing a custom ROM, as far as I know, doesn't improve picture quality.
doctorik said:
Hello guys,
I´d like to buy a new phone (my first smartphone), but not sure which one. Although I browsed through a lot of phones (not all, of course), I found only 3 phones that I truly like (mainly because of design and features included):
- LG Optimus Black (price 245 - 255 Euro)
- LG Optimus 2x (290 Euro)
- iPhone 4 16GB (520+ Euro)
Well, I´m not willing to pay 520+ Euro for brand new iPhone 4, so only 2 options remain. These are my pros for each of LGs:
LG Black
+ thinner and lighter
+ better screen ?? (not sure about this one)
LG 2x
+ dual core CPU
+ bigger internal memory
+ better camera and video
I know about crappy LG support and read about all bugs that you have suffered from (using 2x, not sure if Black is better in this area). I presume that I´d need to root phone (never did that) to get the best experience of it. But what would you suggest me? Should I buy Black or 2x? Or should I look elsewhere?
PS: I´m not power user and don´t need best out there (won´t play games much if at all). I just need fully functional phone with appealing design, very good screen (4-inch max.), good connectivity and very good camera.
THANKS for feedback.
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Go for o2x. Black has really outdated gpu. Or maybe htc evo 3D for 270€.
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HTC EVO 3D:
cons:
- Not gorilla glass
- Internal storage 1GB??
- Camera 5 MP
pros:
- 1.2 GHz CPU
- Non-Tegra GPU (everyone seems to hate Tegra)
- 1 GB RAM
- Slightly bigger screen
- Slightly bigger capacity battery
The first two cons are killers for me. You install 2 or 3 games and bye-bye 1 GB. I also like my screen to be scratch resistant. But it's a good suggestion nonetheless!
5mpx or 8mpx it doesnt matter on phone sizes sensors.
3D photos and videos are such a nice gimmick
1 gb internal storage - 10. class micro sd and switching internal with external.
Cons for me would be no gorrila glass and colors are nowhere near o2x.
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In my opinion the readability is great, but I can't compare it to the other devices you are asking about because I've never owned them... but compared to my last phone (LG GT540) it's really great!
I've just tried radio because of you, I had never tried it before And I can tell you it works perfectly.
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Flashing a custom ROM will get rid of any carrier logos + preloaded carrier apps
That's why I like it too
Flashing a custom rom (Temasek's Kang is very good, stable, smooth everythings working and the camera app can be replaced with the stock one but improved for 1080p video) will remove all the branding.
Root is like admin right in Windows, rooting a phone is like giving admin rights in windows, it can be used to remove branded apps (with titanium backup for example) but only apps.
For the HTC build quality, it seems that for the previous generation, there was too much model, many high end, many middle, many entry level models and the phone inferior to 300€ are just entry level so crappy material. That's why for 2012 there is only 3 phones, one for each price level.
For the quality of the 2X P990, it was marketed as an high end phone and build quality is not cheap, especialy that it have gorilla glass (optimus black too).
There was bad feedback for first batch but i bought mine 2 weeks ago (bought in France, the box all in german called LG Optimus Speed, made in Korea) and no problem.
For the camera quality, the back plastic that protect the camera is a fingerprint lover. I just wipe it on a sleeve, cristal clear.
The only dual core phone at 300€, just that.
I absolutely hate the new qhd screens. I think its a waste of resources, battery and processing power. Im not too familiar with amoled screens. Im wondering if they look good at resolutions other than native, such as how a crt monitor is, and not like a lcd which looks horrible at anything other than its native res.
If this was true we could just run the phone at 1080p res and save a ton of resources instead of pushing all those pixles that we dont need.
All modern displays need to be run at a native resolution to make it look good. Old CRTs could change the pixels they were projecting onto the screen which allowed it to do true resolution shifts. With modern displays those pixels aren't projected onto glass. They are hard set. Consequently, you can't do it with LCD, AMOLED, LED, or Plasma. 1080p ain't happening.
However, we theoretically could push it to 720p since that is one quarter of it's native resolution. That would just mean that four pixels would be grouped together as one. I expect it won't take long for mods to make their way out for that and it could have a significant impact on battery life. Hopefully it won't screw anything up. I've heard that 720p mods on the LG G3 have screwed with some of the stock LG apps.
Poke_N_PDA said:
All modern displays need to be run at a native resolution to make it look good. Old CRTs could change the pixels they were projecting onto the screen which allowed it to do true resolution shifts. With modern displays those pixels aren't projected onto glass. They are hard set. Consequently, you can't do it with LCD, AMOLED, LED, or Plasma. 1080p ain't happening.
However, we theoretically could push it to 720p since that is one quarter of it's native resolution. That would just mean that four pixels would be grouped together as one. I expect it won't take long for mods to make their way out for that and it could have a significant impact on battery life. Hopefully it won't screw anything up. I've heard that 720p mods on the LG G3 have screwed with some of the stock LG apps.
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Damn. Im not sure that the 720p would be enough for me. Just had a g flex and its 6 inch at 720 and didnt look the greatest. I hope next year they realize that qhd is totally unnecessary and go back to 1080 panels.
seh6183 said:
Damn. Im not sure that the 720p would be enough for me. Just had a g flex and its 6 inch at 720 and didnt look the greatest. I hope next year they realize that qhd is totally unnecessary and go back to 1080 panels.
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Why not just buy a 1080p phone then? The Huawai Ascend Mate 7 might be kind of what you're looking for.
It's got a 6" 1080p screen, metal construction, a huge (4100mah) battery, finger print scanner, etc. It's also roughly the same physical size or a little smaller than the N6 and similar in price I believe.
Overall the reviews have been fairly strong too. It might be worth a look.
SeanPlunk said:
Why not just buy a 1080p phone then? The Huawai Ascend Mate 7 might be kind of what you're looking for.
It's got a 6" 1080p screen, metal construction, a huge (4100mah) battery, finger print scanner, etc. It's also roughly the same physical size or a little smaller than the N6 and similar in price I believe.
Overall the reviews have been fairly strong too. It might be worth a look.
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Need a nexus device. Im tired of being held hostage with updates by the manufactuers for updates. They either wont fix something dumb that a dev can fix in 2 seconds, or they completely abandon the device after a year and you will never see the next version of android. I need to keep a phone that has massive dev support.
Plus that phone specifically doesn't suit me. No front facing stereo speakers, no amoled, no wireless charging, no stock android, and some weird processor that I don't trust lol
Does it actually make a difference to change the resolution? You still have to light up ALL the pixels.
bigf00t said:
Does it actually make a difference to change the resolution? You still have to light up ALL the pixels.
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Not on an AMOLED display. Backlighting is done on a per-pixel basis. That's why blacks are so dark, because the pixels aren't even on.
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I absolutely hate the new qhd screens. I think its a waste of resources, battery and processing power. Im not too familiar with amoled screens. Im wondering if they look good at resolutions other than native, such as how a crt monitor is, and not like a lcd which looks horrible at anything other than its native res.
If this was true we could just run the phone at 1080p res and save a ton of resources instead of pushing all those pixles that we dont need.
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Solution:
Do not buy a QHD phone.
Is it possible to swap the display?
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Cheater912 said:
Is it possible to swap the display?
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HA. You are funny.
Oh wait, you are serious?
GrayBoltWolf said:
HA. You are funny.
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Surely it's possible with enough work.
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GrayBoltWolf said:
HA. You are funny.
Oh wait, you are serious?
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Cheater912 said:
Surely it's possible with enough work.
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Like this:
http://highlowtech.org/?p=2182
Change the display ... really? come on, if you don't want QHD then just don't buy the phone.
Have you tried buying the nexus 5…? ?
Coming from someone with a g3, there are plenty of things you can do to make the phone snappy without having to gimp the resolution. The phone can handle it, just buy a portable battery if you are really worried.
Skripka said:
Solution:
Do not buy a QHD phone.
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OMG! I cant believe my tiny little brain didnt think of such a magical solution. Ill just pop out to the local best buy and grab a phone with the specs im looking for:
5.5 inch plus screen
Amoled
Unlockable bootloader
Front facing speakers
Wireless charging
Oh wait. That doesnt exist outside of the nexus 6................. Hey but thanks for the really helpful and well thought out post.
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Does it actually make a difference to change the resolution? You still have to light up ALL the pixels.
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Absolutely it will. QHD isn't just about what the screen putting it out. It's the processor calculating what goes on that display. You are right that the power the screen consumes doesn't change. However, the processor now only has to calculate 1/4th of the graphics it used to. When you consider how much power is needed for graphics calculations on the processor, that is a MAJOR savings and can really add up over time.
Major? Like he said you still have to fire up all the pixels. It has always been my understanding that pushing the sheer number of pixels is what eats battery. I agree that it's overkill for such a small screen but regardless it's here, you can either but it or not.
on my g3, outside of playing games, reducing the resolution did not increase my performance or battery life.