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[Q] Flash on the Nook Color?

I'm quite content with the idea of getting a Nook Color for my birthday, but I think I'd fall in love with it if it had flash capabilities.
Does it?
~CyanCrayon
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Not as of yet but neither does the ipad. You will do fine without it unless you play those annoying flash games
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jaydon34 said:
Not as of yet but neither does the ipad. You will do fine without it unless you play those annoying flash games
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One great use is flash video. >.>
Doesn't the Nook Color have ARM 7?
And comparing an iPad to a Nook Color is like comparing apples and oranges...
~CyanCrayon
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I thought the lack of flash would be a bummer too. The only thing that sucks is trying to do flash videos as you were saying. This won't be possible until the NC gets a 2.2 upgrade. I think I read somewhere that it should be in the next month or so, can anyone confirm this?

You can still watch flash videos through various apps like skyfire... i think
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mmarsman said:
I thought the lack of flash would be a bummer too. The only thing that sucks is trying to do flash videos as you were saying. This won't be possible until the NC gets a 2.2 upgrade. I think I read somewhere that it should be in the next month or so, can anyone confirm this?
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Actually I can confirm a 2.2 release.
Engadget:
"And, thankfully, there might be a much easier way coming, with Barnes & Noble reportedly telling Smartphone Mag that Android 2.2 will be officially coming to the Nook Color in January. Yes, Android 2.3 is what's happening, but this is still an exciting upgrade as it will finally also allow access to a traditional Android home screen and even enable the Android Market."
But in the same article, it says that froyo has already been hacked on...
Edit: Here's the link. http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/14/nook-color-getting-android-2-2-and-market-in-january-current-ha/
~CyanCrayon
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That's not a confirmation, it's just the rumor we were all talking about a couple of weeks ago that's been subsequently debunked by B&N.

RoboRay said:
That's not a confirmation, it's just the rumor we were all talking about a couple of weeks ago that's been subsequently debunked by B&N.
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Yeah, you're probably right. >_<

B&N has said that 2.2 will come in 2011 at some point.

Patience young Jedi.
In Devs we trust...they will get it done....
Relatively speaking the development on the NC has been quite active given the low user base, and short amount of time it has been on the scene.

mmarsman said:
I thought the lack of flash would be a bummer too. The only thing that sucks is trying to do flash videos as you were saying. This won't be possible until the NC gets a 2.2 upgrade. I think I read somewhere that it should be in the next month or so, can anyone confirm this?
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getting 2.2 doesn't necessarily mean nook will support flash. I have a feeling it won't be fully supported and may be like the archos with choppy flash playback.
but will be interesting to see what happens.
i think people need to realize that the device is meant to be an ereader and I don't think B&N is going to spend money to make the device into a tablet.

Well flash has already been proven to work based on the 2.2 build here.
While it may not be completely smooth, it will be useful for sure.
My netbook doesn't even run flash video completely smooth either but its perfectly acceptable.

[REF]Some adam firmware observations

Hi
I've been having a look at the firmware files released by NI to fix the update blunder they had.
From a quick overview the following nice things appear to be true:
* NI is using test-keys to sign everything which means there's no security really
* /xbin/su is present. I'm not sure if this means you can just adb shell and type /xbin/su to get root (since I don't have an adam yet)
* The boot image is standard format. It appears you can just unpack/repack with secure set to off (making sure that offsets etc are correct!)
Based on this, rooting this thing should be piece of cake..Just repack boot.img and flash..Getting a custom recovery probably requires a bit more to make sure the LCD/PQI actually works in recovery?

Great work so far Rayman. I posted over on this thread in an attempt to get some Adam users to come over to XDA and lend their tablets. http://www.notioninkhacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=227&p=2406#p2406
It would be nice if we could minimize the duplication of efforts and get this thing rooted and unlocked.

Agreed. Thanks rayman. The gtablet folks are already messing with Eden and the Adam Rom, I can't wait until some more people get their Adams and hacking starts. I'm not so sure that notion ink's idea of what we would like in a Rom is actually right. I will be checking the xda dev section often.
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Did you see the Eden Plus thread by Rothnic? Looks like he's got it rooted and the stock Google Apps added.

My own observations (and I could be totaly off base)
I have yet to hear of a successful update.zip, so I'm wondering if their recovery is borked, right now.
Look at their LCD.zip. It's an nvflash format, and yet there's still some remnants of an update.zip, namely the command file. My guess (and it's only a guess) is that they were initially going to create the fix using recovery, and then switched over to nvflash later.
Has anyone managed to get an update.zip working, yet? Man, I wish I had an Adam just to punch this through and get it fixed - I hate sitting on the sidelines like this.

I have my adam, got it yesterday, and would be willing to test for devs. I have rooted it and have the market and adw on it now. I have decent knowledge of android, using adb, recovery, flashing roms and mods.
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Sorry to be off topic but. Here is the question: those of u who own a Adam, is all it was cracked up to be or just like a Gtab by veiwsonic, that might have Ben rushed into production? I'm not looking for fanboy type of answers but good, well informed, educated answers.
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I believe it is a great tablet. All the apps and games run great on it. The resolution is amazing. The Eden ui is a little glitchy but adw runs amazingly fast. I haven't had any issues with it yet and I am a long time android user
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Added the [REF] tag to the topic for clarification. Thanks for the findings rayman84!

gbishop18 said:
I believe it is a great tablet. All the apps and games run great on it. The resolution is amazing. The Eden ui is a little glitchy but adw runs amazingly fast. I haven't had any issues with it yet and I am a long time android user
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Sounds promising as I am waiting for mine to ship. I heard Eden is very beta quality. I would actually prefer it wasn't there at all. Looking forward to the Honeycomb update. All the new honeycomb tablets coming out at $800+ certainly makes the Adam look like a steal once it gets Honeycomb.

Do you think WebOS would work on Nook

if you'll look on Nook Color from part perspective it looks very similar ( except screen) to pre 2.
Same Ram
Pre2 OMAP3630 Vs Nook Color OMAP3621
I was trying to extract os image from my palm sdk/emulator but nothing good come out of it yet. If anyone have any ideas or tips, maybe some experience with extracting images from android sdk and porting them to phones, or useful tutorial how its done.
Thanks
Piotr

piotrbartkowiak said:
if you'll look on Nook Color from part perspective it looks very similar ( except screen) to pre 2.
Same Ram
Pre2 OMAP3630 Vs Nook Color OMAP3621
I was trying to extract os image from my palm sdk/emulator but nothing good come out of it yet. If anyone have any ideas or tips, maybe some experience with extracting images from android sdk and porting them to phones, or useful tutorial how its done.
Thanks
Piotr
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In Theory yes it could be done.....
In Reality, with out the Source code, not alot can be done to get this ported over.

I just wont to try. I need to say my Palm Pixy Plus is one of my favorite phones but it seems it wont be updated any further, and HPalm announced today this TPad only problem for me is 9,7".
7" is my favorite form factor for tablets but Android 2.1 feels limited. 3.0 is not there yet.
Its the best time to play around with my Nook but as I'm saying havent had much luck yet, well I have a cool name WebNook.

Do not bother
WebOS is a copywrited OS. It would be illegal, immoral, and very near impossible to do. HP bought it for over a billion dollars, so they will protect it. Android is "good enough" for the NOOK.

piotrbartkowiak said:
I just wont to try. I need to say my Palm Pixy Plus is one of my favorite phones but it seems it wont be updated any further, and HPalm announced today this TPad only problem for me is 9,7".
7" is my favorite form factor for tablets but Android 2.1 feels limited. 3.0 is not there yet.
Its the best time to play around with my Nook but as I'm saying havent had much luck yet, well I have a cool name WebNook.
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Yeah 2.1 is rather limited, but keep in mind that soon CM7 will be out for the nook with I think 2.2 or 2.3 and it will be much better, and as far as 3.0 goes we don't even have the official release or source yet, the build people are playing with is the SDK Preview release, which is far from fully Honeycomb.
So there is still plenty of Growing room in the nook.

There was a group of people in the CDMA hero forum that attempted to port WebOS to the Hero. I think they got it working but stopped due to copyright. I searched for the thread using both the XDA search and google. It looks like XDA removed it.

I'm not trying to justify myself from trying (still unsuccessfully, and I dont want to make any money from it) to port WebOS to my Nook but what I remember Windows Phone is copywrited OS too and this whole Portal is build around people who are making new roms, and porting new aps to devices. Plus theres nothing better to learn on than something that you shouldn't.

painter_ said:
There was a group of people in the CDMA hero forum that attempted to port WebOS to the Hero. I think they got it working but stopped due to copyright. I searched for the thread using both the XDA search and google. It looks like XDA removed it.
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I'm pretty sure that was deleted because it was a Fake.
Lol I even found a story about it at PreCentral

therealguppy said:
I'm pretty sure that was deleted because it was a Fake.
Lol I even found a story about it at PreCentral
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I remembered the thread, did not know it was fake. I really did not follow the thread just scanned it really quick. Thanks for the info.

I found this link on my bing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822401&page=58
but cant acces it because I dont have 10 posts yet.

piotrbartkowiak said:
I found this link on my bing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822401&page=58
but cant acces it because I dont have 10 posts yet.
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You can't access it because it was deleted, not because of post count.

YodaEXE said:
You can't access it because it was deleted, not because of post count.
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Thanks for checking it out for me.
WebOS is linux and if Nook can run one it mean it can run more, need to reed more how people ported Ubuntu and other Androids than 2.1

therealguppy said:
Yeah 2.1 is rather limited, but keep in mind that soon CM7 will be out for the nook with I think 2.2 or 2.3 and it will be much better, and as far as 3.0 goes we don't even have the official release or source yet, the build people are playing with is the SDK Preview release, which is far from fully Honeycomb.
So there is still plenty of Growing room in the nook.
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2.3 is what they are working on. When that releases, not only will we get all the 2.3 goodness, we get rid of all the B&N garbage. That's what we're all waiting with baited breath for.

nicbennett said:
2.3 is what they are working on. When that releases, not only will we get all the 2.3 goodness, we get rid of all the B&N garbage. That's what we're all waiting with baited breath for.
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I really like the B&N Library Software and the Ability to Purchase Books on the device, Granted the B&N Launcher is junk, But I like the Library App, Maybe we can rip it off and still use it?
I did just try Aldiko, which is very nice, But I like the Easy of Syncing my library with the B&N Library that comes with the Nook Color, Its also far Superior to the nook app of the Market which is laughable.

therealguppy said:
I really like the B&N Library Software and the Ability to Purchase Books on the device, Granted the B&N Launcher is junk, But I like the Library App, Maybe we can rip it off and still use it?
I did just try Aldiko, which is very nice, But I like the Easy of Syncing my library with the B&N Library that comes with the Nook Color, Its also far Superior to the nook app of the Market which is laughable.
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I recently tried Aldiko also, and quite like it. It seems pretty superior to barnes and noble reader. The only downside, as you said, is losing the simple sync with B&N. I'm sure people would come up with a simple enough work around though. I personally don't buy books from them, so it's not too much of a concern for me. perhaps they could be synced with the nook app in the market and then once downloaded could be added to the Aldiko library?

just thought I would post for anyone interested in a possible port, 2.1 SDK was just released
developer dot palm dot com / blog / 2011 / 03 / the-webos-2-1-sdk-is-now-available /

webOS on the NC would be quite tricky..... no keyboard

piotrbartkowiak said:
I'm not trying to justify myself from trying (still unsuccessfully, and I dont want to make any money from it) to port WebOS to my Nook but what I remember Windows Phone is copywrited OS too and this whole Portal is build around people who are making new roms, and porting new aps to devices. Plus theres nothing better to learn on than something that you shouldn't.
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The Windows Phone Roms are for phones that are licensed to run said OS. You won't find a WP7 ROM for the NC for example, because it's not licensed to run it. You could probably get your mitts on the SDK, hack around and get WebOS kind of, sort of running on the NC, but there is no way you could make any argument that it was legal.

I used to have a Palm Pre Plus, and besides the factory defects of 3 units, I wasn't really impressed with the OS either.
For me nothing beats my Nexus One. So having my Nook run CM7 is way more enjoyable.

adunofaiur said:
WebOS is a copywrited OS. It would be illegal, immoral, and very near impossible to do. HP bought it for over a billion dollars, so they will protect it. Android is "good enough" for the NOOK.
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yep, we got in trouble for trying to put it on the hero lol

HC Has a hidden GB like type UI!

the lcd density was too low making everything small. I bumped it from 120 to 190 and rebooted and was shocked.. it was a different UI! It was like GB. Setting the LCD Density to 160 and below gave us the HC UI 170 and higher gave us the GB UI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8m_Qawds9o

pretty neat

What happens if the lcd density is set between 160 and 170...

Above 160 is the gb ui. Below is hc. It sits nicely at 160 though.
sent from a tower

Congrats dude!!! You made Engadget. http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...ed-by-h/&category=classic&icid=eng_latest_art
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Second time he's been famous f***!!!! Lol
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Nice
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I could have told you this. Just download the emulator, run HC and set the density.

Does this mean you can install HOneycomb on a phone???

brunes said:
Does this mean you can install HOneycomb on a phone???
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No, this is something built into Honeycomb not Gingerbread.

Actually it proves that hc wasn't built from ground up as graffix said. Its interesting none the less.
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brunes said:
Does this mean you can install HOneycomb on a phone???
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Yes, but you won't "see" any changes.
Why anyone is surprised at this is beyond me. This is how android was designed to work. Honeycomb was an ADDITION not a re invention of the OS. The "from the ground up" is because none of those resources existed. Any new feature added is built "from the ground up".

Lol I stumbled upon this like weeks ago and nobody cared for my thread - now you make it to front page and engadget...
kudos.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055865)

domenukk said:
Lol I stumbled upon this like weeks ago and nobody cared for my thread - now you make it to front page and engadget...
kudos.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055865)
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U would have added a video, then u would have made it far. Video is more info than words and instrustions alone

Hellzya said:
Actually it proves that hc wasn't built from ground up as graffix said. Its interesting none the less.
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And/Or...
they had already planned Ice Cream Sandwich, different UI depending on the LCD density (tablet/phone)

MrNago said:
And/Or...
they had already planned Ice Cream Sandwich, different UI depending on the LCD density (tablet/phone)
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Very true
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This is really old news and has been known about since the HC SDK was first released. Pocketnow mentioned this on their site when they tried the SDK out in an emulator.

dude, you edited your voice track ^^

domenukk said:
Lol I stumbled upon this like weeks ago and nobody cared for my thread - now you make it to front page and engadget...
kudos.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055865)
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you weren't even the first. I saw this on the the emulator back in February. why is it such a big deal now when it wasn't back then?

Actually, I think this is perfectly intentional.
When honeycomb came out, I was playing with the SDK, and this was one of the first things I discovered when starting the emulator in portrait mode as opposed to landscape (which is what tablets are usually orientated at) for the resolution I was using.
It made sense that there would be some sort of backwards compatibility for new devices that didn't want the new honeycomb interface, because it just wasn't suitable, but still wanted the new API features that it offers.

eReader ROM...

Hi,
First post, so first of all- great community here. I like the welcome video, and attitude of figuring it out yourself (forcing you to learn a lot very fast).
I rooted my Nexus 7 very easily, thanks to the info here. I've got MultiRom running and I tired installing Ubuntu 13.04. I installed the KerneeI, and Ubuntu, but then the OS itself wouldn't load. I'm not ready to post for help with it yet- but searching hasn't given me any solutions yet.
Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else would be interested in an eReader ROM. I haven't thought it through a lot- but for me, I think it would encourage me to read more instead of getting notifications and being distracted, or being tempted to do other things. It could be optimized to lengthen the battery, such as through under-clocking the CPU or other hardware...
Anyone else think it could be a good idea? Does something similar exist?
Cheers

Hmm. If I wanted an ereader, I would buy a kindle or something else.
I can read ebooks with my nexus and do a lot of other things with it. Why should I limit it artificially?

They already make eReaders. Why would you want to cripple such a power full device into a eReader?
If you are distracted and want to read more GET A BOOK
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ycon said:
Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else would be interested in an eReader ROM.
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just install the nook or kindle app onto your device and load it up with whatever ebooks you want. bam, instant ereader rom with no rom development needed.
ycon said:
I haven't thought it through a lot- but for me, I think it would encourage me to read more instead of getting notifications and being distracted, or being tempted to do other things.
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install titanium backup or some other app manager and start uninstalling apps. bam, instant distraction-free rom with no rom development needed.
ycon said:
It could be optimized to lengthen the battery, such as through under-clocking the CPU or other hardware...
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flash a custom kernel. bam, instant optimization with no rom development needed.
ycon said:
Anyone else think it could be a good idea? Does something similar exist?
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waste of time honestly since there's only you that's ever requested a rom like this here on these forums and because every rom available for the n7 already has the capabilities you're requesting. i suggest Slim Bean being's it's only 80mb and super lightweight, and it comes with Slim Sizer (i believe that's the name) which allows you to remove any system application that came pre-installed on the rom.

Tbh it doesn't sound like a bad idea. Suppose you gave it to a kid or teen or whatever that mostly reads and doesn't know crap about technology. Kinda like porting the kindles software over. Doubt anyone really cares too much to work on it though.
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BlackFire27 said:
Tbh it doesn't sound like a bad idea. Suppose you gave it to a kid or teen or whatever that mostly reads and doesn't know crap about technology. Kinda like porting the kindles software over. Doubt anyone really cares too much to work on it though.
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if i wanted to give a kid who knows nothing about technology an ereader, i certainly wouldn't give them a developer's device, let alone one that costs over $200. that's what a nabi2 tablet is for. hell, a nook simple touch is only $100. half the price of a nexus 7, easy to use, and does everything OP is asking for. an ereader rom for a developer device is honestly quite wasteful.

If you're being distracted by notifications couldn't you just turn Airplane mode on?
Or, as others have said, you could just install Slimbean and add nothing but a couple reading apps. And then remove EVERY other app on that ROM. Then you pretty much have what you want.

cnstarz said:
if i wanted to give a kid who knows nothing about technology an ereader, i certainly wouldn't give them a developer's device, let alone one that costs over $200. that's what a nabi2 tablet is for. hell, a nook simple touch is only $100. half the price of a nexus 7, easy to use, and does everything OP is asking for. an ereader rom for a developer device is honestly quite wasteful.
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"Give" not "buy". Like a hand me down. And its not entirely a developer device. Of all the people I know who have a N7 don't even know what rooting is besides fellow xda members.
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The only reason why an ereader is a stand alone device is its screen and therefore battery consumption. Yes, you can read books on n7 too, bit there's no point having a separate ROM for it, all you need is an app, or maybe a dedicated launcher. I can't picture a ROM that makes the battery last for a week and transform a LCD screen into eink one. It may be worth a shot with led displays, but not on LCD.
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BlackFire27 said:
"Give" not "buy". Like a hand me down. And its not entirely a developer device. Of all the people I know who have a N7 don't even know what rooting is besides fellow xda members.
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just because there are people that own the device and dont know what rooting is doesn't mean the device wasn't intended for developers. it was. all nexus devices are intended to be developed on.