Ok, this isn't a duplicate thread, these aren't wallpapers for the Diamond, they're wallpapers OF the Diamond. I took the photos in my studio with a Nikon D300 DSLR and 1 flash + softbox.
^^ Yes, I know they're not diamonds, but I don't have any (fakes).
Flickr hosts them in 1024x680, but if anyone would like any other resolution, post here and I'll put it up on web.
For everyone that havent noticed yet, theres a new app on the market that allows ZOOM on the G1 Camera, now we are only missing a FLASH so we can get great quality pics on night.
What is the name of the app?
BSDADON said:
What is the name of the app?
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CamaraZoom
That's the easy way to find it via search on the market... and cost .99 euro?
You do know that this is digital zoom and not optical zoom, right? You're basically getting a cropped picture. You may as well just take the picture click the zoom button on your viewer...
What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?
MoridinBG said:
What's the point of digital zoom that makes the crappy pictures indistinguishable?
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Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
Now, if you really want a zoom, get one of these babies. I got it on e-bay for $13 including shipping and it's the real deal. Plus, you look like a total ubercooldork when you pull it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508175
Ill be happier when they come out with the S60 ability to do "Night Mode" which gave me GREAT pictures in nighttime and so without the flash.
At max zoom you are getting the equivalent of a .5MP photo which means you have an image that is 2048x1526 pixels large and only have 500,000 pixels to fill it. Add to that the fact that the autofocus cant figure out what to do to obtain a decent image and you end up with pictures that are more grainy than the Sahara Desert. This is why I havent added it to snapPhoto. If you want crappy pictures then simply take the image and zoom it with some other app.
Now Flash. You do realise that flash is a hardware thing right? And you do realise that you cant code hardware into something that doesnt have it. I would have thought that was a basic concept but here we are 9 months after launch and people still cant figure that out.
As far as nightmode - on snapphoto it does work, but it cant make light where there is none so if you expect it to make a shot taken in very dark areas to suddenly be like a shot taken in full daylight - think again. All nightmode does is leave the shutter open longer in an attempt to get more light exposure. As a result of this any movement will lead to much blurrier pics.
If you want an example of what can be achieved by someone who takes a little time to play with the settings in my app check out .
http://thecrayonbox.org/files/nightbeach.jpg
Taken with snapphotopro.
Nice with snapphoto. I may try that for the G1. However the Nokia S60 phones have a great night mode. Ive taken alot of pictures with low light and it performed better then my optical digital camera. This was with a Nokia 3650 which isnt even a MP phone (My 2 MP camera was dark photos only)
This was taken at a amusement park on top of the "Eifel Tower" at the twilight night time.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(42).jpg
I did a comparison that night between the 2 modes.
http://www.darkmystics.com/kd/Image(43).jpg
Yea it added a green tint, but for when I travel out now, I use my phone all the time. =) (Granted did upgraded to a higher caliber S60 MP camera phone lol)
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Nothing.. they're just smaller crappy pictures.
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i LOLed.
This is a seriously cool camera.
I know its digital zoom but really helps for composition and saves the hassle of cropping later on (say if I take 10 zoomed pictures).
I love Snap Photo too, but Camera ZOOM is the new camera for me - seems a lot of people like it - already top 25 app!
Customisable skins, animations, easy to use and fast ... would definitely recommend.
Hi guys!
I would like to show you some of my renders made in Cinema 4D. I hope you like them!
Here's the link: http://s1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee432/fdespotovski/Cinema 4D Renders/
Note: Some of the pictures are resized by Photobucket. The original resolutions are:
W:1600, H:1200
W:1600, H:900
W:1366, H:768
W:1000, H:1000
You still have a lot of things to do.
Lighting, shadows, ray tracing, refraction value of glass material is not proper, the pot picture will not take more than 4 minutes to build on cinema 4d. Learn shaders.
Most of work (sphere cone cylinder) is 5 min modeling 15 minutes to render.
Never post pic of apple product on xda you get sued for that.
But great start.
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ayuwoki said:
tried it with my p30 pro and it stays the same, no modifications made ??
you shouldve tested that experiment before posting
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You have to cheat the AI, and make it think it is a real moon. It is not easy to do, and the proper environment light, screen brightness and contrast have to be used. It is not a single case, because this experiment has been replicated by many Chinese phone reviewers already.
Ai doesn't want to detect pic 3 as a moon. No detection going on , on my end. Took this moon shot last night
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Ai doesn't want to detect pic 3 as a moon. No detection going on , on my end. Took this moon shot last night
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You have to use a proper environment and trigger the "Moon Mode", otherwise, the AI processing won't work.
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You have to use a proper environment and trigger the "Moon Mode", otherwise, the AI processing won't work.
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Managed to trigger moon mode but it doesn't want to focus on it ..
I'll link it here, xda's uploader seems broken again
https://imgur.com/a/9jRBVUf
edit : also i've checked all my prior real moon shots and they don't look the same. Shapes are all totally different.
JJay666 said:
Managed to trigger moon mode but it doesn't want to focus on it ..
I'll link it here, xda's uploader seems broken again
https://imgur.com/a/9jRBVUf
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It seems quite difficult to cheat the AI. The original poster claimed that he tested this all night, and he only managed to cheat it 30% of the time (and sometimes even moon mode doesn't trigger the modification). I don't have a P30P so can't guide you here. The original post provides instructions, but it is just too much work to translate that part... So if you may click into the original post and use Google translation if you're interested in verifying.
Edit: The AI doesn't simply replace the moon with a real one, it just adds details(which are from a real moon) to make your photo looks better.
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It seems quite difficult to cheat the AI. The original poster claimed that he tested this all night, and he only managed to cheat it 30% of the time (and sometimes even moon mode doesn't trigger the modification). I don't have a P30P so can't guide you here. The original post provides instructions, but it is just too much work to translate that part... So if you may click into the original post and use Google translation if you're interested in verifying.
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I've already gone through it. Seems a little too much work to get it done as he stated on the thread as well. It could be true, the p30 pro might have a few moon templates in them to overlay on top of the current moon picture but to me, it still looks great. Besides the moon shots, i've tried the 50x on other stuffs too using a tripod and it's still really good.
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I've already gone through it. Seems a little too much work to get it done as he stated on the thread as well. It could be true, the p30 pro might have a few moon templates in them to overlay on top of the current moon picture but to me, it still looks great. Besides the moon shots, i've tried the 50x on other stuffs too using a tripod and it's still really good.
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It does take very good photos. And using the moon template is not a bad feature to me because you can always turn it off if you don't like. But the controversial part is that Huawei used those "beautified" photos in its advertisement, and indicated those are real photos
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It does take very good photos. And using the moon template is not a bad feature to me because you can always turn it off if you don't like. But the controversial part is that Huawei used those "beautified" photos in its advertisement, and indicated those are real photos
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Misleading adverts are really common nowadays though in the mobile photography industry especially from Huawei and Xiaomi with their controversial pictures. :laugh: Same as the volcano pic, only later on after being pointed out for using stock images they added a reference at the bottom lol
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This is becoming huge in China, so I think it is better to repost here.
One of the selling points of P30 Pro is the newly equipped 5x telephoto lens, and it has been advertised to be able to take great moon photos,
However, those amazing moon photos have recently been proven to be AI modified by a post from user '小城' in Chinese forum Zhihu.
https://www.zhihu.com/question/319986727/answer/652664005
The post contains a series of well-designed experiments, and proves that P30Pro's AI processing core will add inexistent details to the original moon photo and make the photo "looked better".
The experiment was done as follow:
Step1. Download a real moon photo (Pic1);
Step2. Modify some of its details (Pic2);
Step3. Blur Pic2 and alter its colour in order to trigger P30Pro's "Moon Mode" (Pic3):
Step4. Put Pic3 on a laptop screen and use P30Pro to shot the picture from the screen (Pic4):
Step5. Compare Pic4 with Pic2 and Pic1
As we can see that Pic4 recovered the details which are removed or modified from the real moon (Pic1), which is technically impossible as the information was lost in Step2 already.
So a conclusion can be made that P30Pro's AI processing has some pre-defined moon pictures in its database, and when 'Moon Mode' is triggered, it would "beautify" the originally taken photo with the details from those pre-defined pictures.
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I don't know if it's true, but i took some moon picture with P30PRO in Pro mode, without AI detection, and they are stunning for a phone. I'm sure there is no Ai modification in the pictures.
Where is the misleading part? Thats what an AI photo should do, recognize whats been photographed and add textures out of a database.
If you want real photos you turn the AI off and don't go beyond the 125mm camera with any AI zooms.
nurps said:
Where is the misleading part? Thats what an AI photo should do, recognize whats been photographed and add textures out of a database.
If you want real photos you turn the AI off and don't go beyond the 125mm camera with any AI zooms.
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IMHO, cameras’ image processing should be limited to reducing information only, for example noise reduction, color correction, add sharpness..... but it should not add inexistent details, otherwise, how it is different from your taking a shot of the sky, and the AI downloads a black hole image from the Internet and claims it is captured.
But as I said, the feature indeed is useful to some people, and it can be turned off, so it’s fine. What’s controversial is the way they advertised, they indicated those details were captured by the lens instead of being added afterwards. It is similar to the volcano case last month, in which they posted a DSLR volcano photo and indicated it was captured by their phone.
Still thats how AI enhanced shooting is supposed to work, how else should it produce those ridiculous zoom photos, the sensor can't get that information, even stacking super resolution shots together has its limits.
Sure its debatable if that's still your photo and can be misleading to people how don't inform them-self about what it does. But as far as AI enhanced zoom photography goes it does exactly what is supposed to do. An sure the DSLR stuff is just fake.
The moons texture is always the same anyway, I'm more surprised they keep it that awful and blurry. But I guess it would look strange if you would combine a low moon with some buildings the AI can't reconstruct as well as a simple object like the moon, so I guess they keep the quality low for realism.
Another useless cheap troll topic.Guys pls go away keep the P30pro forum clean...
Yet the best overall camera phone--
Just tried to reproduce it, took pic 3 put it on black background, removed the upper left bright spot. Phone triggered "moon mode" but I got what I was seeing on screen, same blurry blob with the removed spot, no enhanced details.
Mine with P30 Pro
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Because you're going to visit the moon anytime soon and you need to know where the Sea of Tranquility is vs. The Ocean of Storms.... Jesus man just get Google Lunar Maps and call it a day....
BTW, WTFCs?????????? :laugh:
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Reading some say Iqoo Neo 3 might have not the sharpest photos, anyone tested with GCAM to see if it improves quality?
I own this phone, and the camera is a big step up from my 3 year old axon 7. As far as 'not the sharpest photos' goes, often in portait mode the vivo camera does a lot of automatic settings, that adjust beauty and light. sometimes this doesnt go well, but probably 85% of the time, if I'm patient, I get a terrific photo.
With GCAM, I have had success with GCAM 7.3.020, modified(m_7.2.010_Urnyx05-v2.2.apk) for taking astrophotography, but sometimes the app does crash with regular photos.
from this guide
https://www.ytechb.com/download-google-camera-7-3-for-iqoo-3/
I am happy with this phone camera. It is better than my wifes Redmi Note 8 pro. I cannot compare it with other, similar priced or spec'ed phones.
Hope this helps.
Maybe you have photo samples from your neo 3? Thanks !
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Maybe you have photo samples from your neo 3? Thanks !
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Sorry for very late reply.
First image (floating structure in water) was captured at sunset with vivo's camera. all auto, just a regular photo, no tripod. This is the best example and one of my favourite photos. The AI for taking a photo and adjusting itself to the light did a great job IMO.
Second photo is using gcam and a selfie stick with a base. 30 second photo of the milky way, about 10pm at night, in a country area with little to no light pollution.
Both photos are compressed by both google images and then xda uploads. original file size is about 8-9mb for each.
Sorry I'm not keen to upload any portrait photos.