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Does anyone know which one would work best for a Tilt/ Kaiser? I know that the class 2,4,6 denote the speed in MB/S but will that speed up applications, especially apps like TomTom or iGO? Will the class of the SDHC have any effect on the performance of the device itself?
jack_b_uta said:
Does anyone know which one would work best for a Tilt/ Kaiser? I know that the class 2,4,6 denote the speed in MB/S but will that speed up applications, especially apps like TomTom or iGO? Will the class of the SDHC have any effect on the performance of the device itself?
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It will only speed up accessing the card, if you install Programs to the Storage Card, then yes, it will speed up when using those programs. SatNav software will speed up when reading maps.
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Dave
DaveShaw said:
It will only speed up accessing the card, if you install Programs to the Storage Card, then yes, it will speed up when using those programs. SatNav software will speed up when reading maps.
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Dave
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So our devices can make a use of additional speed...I thought that the speed class is only revelant when transfering files to or from hardrive. I thought that all PPCs have some speed limit?
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So our devices can make a use of additional speed...I thought that the speed class is only revelant when transfering files to or from hardrive. I thought that all PPCs have some speed limit?
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Speed class is typically used to denote the rate at which data is transfered from device to card. When you access programs on a SD card the read speed of the card will determine how fast the access is similarly the write speed will determine how fast data is written onto the card.
Note:- Speed Class will not affect device speed but will only effect application access speed.
prabh said:
Speed class is typically used to denote the rate at which data is transfered from device to card. When you access programs on a SD card the read speed of the card will determine how fast the access is similarly the write speed will determine how fast data is written onto the card.
Note:- Speed Class will not affect device speed but will only effect application access speed.
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Yes prabh I understand that but lets focus on a typical class 6(6Mb/s) memory card. Is Kaiser or any other HTC device capable of writing with that speed?
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Yes prabh I understand that but lets focus on a typical class 6(6Mb/s) memory card. Is Kaiser or any other HTC device capable of writing with that speed?
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If i remember right the tilt has a max spec support of Class 2 SDHC rating but then i could be wrong
On a similar note
I noticed that on the Sandisk site there is a warning that almost seems to indicate that the Tilt can hold a max of 8GB Micro SDHC. "http://sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8633)-HTC-Tilt.aspx" . I always thought that the SDHC size limitation was at 32GB. Anyone know anything about this?
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If i remember right the tilt has a max spec support of Class 2 SDHC rating but then i could be wrong
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So how can we find out whether you're wrong or not?
jack_b_uta said:
I noticed that on the Sandisk site there is a warning that almost seems to indicate that the Tilt can hold a max of 8GB Micro SDHC. "http://sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8633)-HTC-Tilt.aspx" . I always thought that the SDHC size limitation was at 32GB. Anyone know anything about this?
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The largest card sandisk offers is a 8gb for the tilt
but the tilt supports sdhc sd2.0 which mean that it could go up to 32gb
but it hasen't been tested
the next card that is comming out is 16gb, i think it will be out this year
the tilt should support that card too
I have the 8gb and is is quite fast
I don't know the class, but out of all the 1-2 gb microsd card(5 cards) i have, it was the fastest
but i tested using the sandisk mobile mate and a generic reader
there might be some card out that are faster
warwolfx0 said:
the next card that is comming out is 16gb, i think it will be out this year
the tilt should support that card too
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It's already out
Check the accessories sub-forum.
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So how can we find out whether you're wrong or not?
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lol..well you could always google for it if its that important for you
prabh said:
lol..well you could always google for it if its that important for you
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Sounds like a plan but............ I'm too lazy to do it
Heya Guys,
I'm completely new to SGS and Android in general
Bought my SGS a Week ago and im quite satisfied with it so far. ( Got almost stock froyo -- TouchWizGTG launcher and a voodo lagfix )
I wonder now, if there is a major speed improvement with a class 10 microSD Card with the the SGS over the class 6 card. Is the device even capable to handle a class 10 card and is it worth the buy, will it reduce lags? oO
Well, thank you in advance \o/
The speed of the microsd won't affect your system speed, because no critical files are placed on it.. (long time ago there was a lag fix that moved stuff to sd, but the newer ones don't do that).
The only difference would be reading/writing to the SD, and unless you're going to be doing stuff like high res video recording to the sd or something, I really don't think it matters.
The internal SD card is class 6 or so btw, and it works fine. You probably won't notice a difference.
i have my external SD card at class 4, 16 gb, no problems seen in terms of read / write speed.
Oh! Thanks for the fast answers!
Think I will buy a class 6 then. Thank you very much! U saved me alot of money
Hi,
Has anyone tried either the Lexar or Patriot 32GB microSDHC card with their Droid/Milestones?
Any issues at all?
Thanks!
Any information at all would be appreciated.
I haven't been able to find any information by searching forums.
I am running Cyanogen 6, 2.2.1, so I should be able to format the 32GB card. I'm just concerned with compatibility issues with the original Droid 1 and the Milestone.
Anyone?
Thanks!
this would be interesting for me too. im searching a 32 gb card which is workin!
yeah, would love to hear something about 32gb goodness too ^^
Yeah I'm surprised that we aren't getting more feedback with this topic.
I've found threads with 32GB cards with EVOs and Droid Xs, but, that's about it.
I think it helps if you manage to get it formatted properly, either on a desktop computer or on your device (if it supports it).
I'm tempted by the Patriot 32GB Class 10, but, some of the people on Newegg seemed to have some issues with it on a their Droid Xs.
Im using a 32gb class 10 lexar microsd in my milestone, so far its working great and have had no problems
lebkom said:
Im using a 32gb class 10 lexar microsd in my milestone, so far its working great and have had no problems
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Thanks for the feedback!
Do you experience any subjective speed increases with the new card?
Have you run any SD Card speed tests with the card? If not, would you mind doing so and reporting back?
Just wondering if the Milestone will benefit from a class 10 card (or any card greater than class 2).
Thanks again!
i got 8.8MB/s write speed and 12.7MB/s read using antutu system review btw im also using apps2ext and cm7. I dont know by using apps2ext if the benchmark is effected. I was using a 16gb class 2 Kingston card before this and generally haven't noticed much of a speed difference but I mainly use the card for music
Edit: SD tools gets 10.6MB/s writing speed and 14.4MB/s reading speed
lebkom said:
i got 8.8MB/s write speed and 12.7MB/s read using antutu system review btw im also using apps2ext and cm7. I dont know by using apps2ext if the benchmark is effected. I was using a 16gb class 2 Kingston card before this and generally haven't noticed much of a speed difference but I mainly use the card for music
Edit: SD tools gets 10.6MB/s writing speed and 14.4MB/s reading speed
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Hi,
Thanks for sharing your results. Those performance speeds are quite attractive!
I'm surprised that you you don't feel any subjective speed increases though. I would have thought that when accessing applications stored on your SD card, or when you initially remount your SD card and have to search through media using Gallery, that the difference would have been significant.
Although it is possible that our phones doesn't support much more than Class 2 speeds.
But, at least we know that the Lexar card is compatible with the Droid/Milestone!
Thanks very much for the information!
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Although it is possible that our phones doesn't support much more than Class 2 speeds.
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Class 2 is (roughly speaking) 2MB/s writing speed. Imagine you want to copy a lot of mp3's or a movie (or use it as USB dongle) with 2MB/s. unusable.
MuF123 said:
Class 2 is (roughly speaking) 2MB/s writing speed. Imagine you want to copy a lot of mp3's or a movie (or use it as USB dongle) with 2MB/s. unusable.
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Oh sure, I understand that a faster card will make file transfers with my desktop much faster. I guess I was hoping to get more of a performance boost from my phone (ie. Apps2SD) with a faster card.
I'm not sure I'd call 2MB/S unusable for desktop file transfers. But, then again I don't change the music on my phone more than once a month. I can see it being more troublesome if you changed it more regularly. And hey, more speed is always good
Something else to consider - I have an 8GB class 2 card.
Loading angry birds seasons from my SD card = 15 seconds
Loading from internal memory = 9 seconds
Twist3 said:
Something else to consider - I have an 8GB class 2 card.
Loading angry birds seasons from my SD card = 15 seconds
Loading from internal memory = 9 seconds
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Yes, that's a great point. I just don't know if the Droid/Milestone can take advantage of a microSDHC card with a higher transfer rate than Class 2.
Have you tried a faster card with your phone?
Does anyone have any comparison numbers with faster cards and application loading using Apps2SD?
Thanks!
Patriot LX 32GB Class 10 benchmarked with SD Tools v1.3
(HTC Desire HD + Android v2.2)
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Patriot LX 32GB Class 10 benchmarked with SD Tools v1.3
(HTC Desire HD + Android v2.2)
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Wow, impressive numbers. I wish the Droid/Milestone had half that performance
Is anyone using the Patriot 32GB with a Droid/Milestone?
With the Milestone SD card which came with the phone (I think this is a UK retail version) "OEM SD SU08G", I got these results:
3.8 / 14.8 MB/s
I added this simply to have something to compare with.
Will edit this image of the results in later: thumbnails37.imagebam.com/12224/fae506122237685.jpg
Shrikey said:
With the Milestone SD card which came with the phone (I think this is a UK retail version) "OEM SD SU08G", I got these results:
3.8 / 14.8 MB/s
I added this simply to have something to compare with.
Will edit this image of the results in later: thumbnails37.imagebam.com/12224/fae506122237685.jpg
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Thanks for sharing.
I get similar results from my no-name stock 16GB card.
I'm using the Patriot 32GB microSDHC class 10, so far it works well in my milestone.
Below is the screenshot by SD tool.
A comment:
Using this kind of sdhc which is c10, try not move the files too much once a time from pc to ms, or it might caused reboot or something else.
bb2260 said:
I'm using the Patriot 32GB microSDHC class 10, so far it works well in my milestone.
Below is the screenshot by SD tool.
A comment:
Using this kind of sdhc which is c10, try not move the files too much once a time from pc to ms, or it might caused reboot or something else.
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Hi,
Thanks for sharing your results!
You're the first person I've heard of who is using this combination. Your speed test results are very impressive.
May I ask you to clarify your comment regarding reboots? Do you mean that if you move large files, or a large quantity of files from your PC to your Milestone, that you have been experiencing reboots? What other issues have you been experiencing?
Have you noticed any kind of speed increase?
Thanks!
knowthenazz said:
Hi,
Thanks for sharing your results!
You're the first person I've heard of who is using this combination. Your speed test results are very impressive.
May I ask you to clarify your comment regarding reboots? Do you mean that if you move large files, or a large quantity of files from your PC to your Milestone, that you have been experiencing reboots? What other issues have you been experiencing?
Have you noticed any kind of speed increase?
Thanks!
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In my place, there are many persons who are using this sdhc, so don't worry MS can support it.
In our experenice from our fourm, some MS work great and nothing happened.
But, some MS including my MS have the problem about reboot, app exit when you are using it, if you move a large quantity of files once a time from PC to MS.
There is also a problem from my experenice, not for all others.
My MS could not identify the SD card, or need to format the Sd card.
In this situation, the SD card repairation by some sd format app could be settle the problem, and then the card is back. The information of the repairation shows that there are some unknow link, bad sector, or error link. When I look further, I find the files that often appear above three error message are in the below folders /sdcard/LOST.DIR and /sdcard/LazyList. Thus I think these are the reason why the problem happens.
There is an interesting thing. I have fat and ext partitions in my card, but the partition of ext never has any problems. Last month, I format the fat32 by 64K formation, and it works well so far. (someone prefers 32K)
The speed increase. Yes, but not so significantly. I feel the system is more smooth. The delay when open the app is also less, but you know the speed also involve the size of memory. So, it's haven't extreme different.
Hey folks, I used Generic Nook-2GB-SDCard-CW3010-VGCM7InstallerAsALTinMultiBoot-v6.zip to load CM7..but I was wondering if I can load other SD bootable ROMs with this? I would like to try others if I can. The reason is Im having issue with CM7 being finiky on my NC, like lag opening, not being able to open Market. Any suggestions to these issues too? Thanks, really appreciate the help.
You would need to wipe the SDcard before you can try other ROMs.
Also mainly not the ROM causing the lag and unresponsive but rather the SDcard class/manufacture. What kind of SDcard are you using?
it is a PNY 4G class 4...i saw that the class 2 are much better.
jrvjr said:
it is a PNY 4G class 4...i saw that the class 2 are much better.
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It isn't that class 2 is better than 4. Normally the opposite is suppose to be true.
The issue is the class ratings just tell you the sequential write speed of the drive. Which is nice for copying data to the drive, but isn't helpful in determining if the drive is good enough to run an OS off of.
As this thread shows...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
The 4K write speed is really important if you are running a ROM from the SD card. And Sandisk does a LOT better at this than other SD cards.
So in this case a Sandisk C2 would likely be better than a PNY C4.
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It isn't that class 2 is better than 4. Normally the opposite is suppose to be true.
The issue is the class ratings just tell you the sequential write speed of the drive. Which is nice for copying data to the drive, but isn't helpful in determining if the drive is good enough to run an OS off of.
As this thread shows...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
The 4K write speed is really important if you are running a ROM from the SD card. And Sandisk does a LOT better at this than other SD cards.
So in this case a Sandisk C2 would likely be better than a PNY C4.
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I agree with Ravynmagi - I am running CyanogenMod on my NC using a Sandisk C2, and it is very responsive. I have found others to be not quite as good.
anyone using class 10 cards on their salsa?
does it help with performance?
any significant increase in speed?
#1. Class 10 SD card means the card is capable of transfering 10mb of data per second.
#2. Will it has noticable performance increase? Well, it depends on which divice you are using it with.
Talking about salsa, I think it wont be able to achieve a noticable difference in perfromance as compared to class 6 SD cards. Reason being, Salsa's overall configuration is not one of the highest. Being said that, it may not have high transfer rate while working with SD cards.
Salsa devs can add more info on transfer rate of salsa.
Check the SD standards official website to learn more about SD cards. Here is the link
https://www.sdcard.org/developers/faq/
monty80 said:
#1. Class 10 SD card means the card is capable of transfering 10mb of data per second.
#2. Will it has noticable performance increase? Well, it depends on which divice you are using it with.
Talking about salsa, I think it wont be able to achieve a noticable difference in perfromance as compared to class 6 SD cards. Reason being, Salsa's overall configuration is not one of the highest. Being said that, it may not have high transfer rate while working with SD cards.
Salsa devs can add more info on transfer rate of salsa.
Check the SD standards official website to learn more about SD cards. Here is the link
https://www.sdcard.org/developers/faq/
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Thanks for the information
Yep
It works... I got a 16GB Class 10 card. Much faster than other cards around. Even class 6 is good enough.
I don't think so, the speed of the divice will depend on the slowest process. It will only give higher speeds when using in usb storage.
kushagrajain said:
I don't think so, the speed of the divice will depend on the slowest process. It will only give higher speeds when using in usb storage.
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not in this case, ive used several s cards of various speeds and classes, and each have there differences, hence why when we use them in this phone for a specific reason...a set on is best. ie class 6 or above for usage with ext3. and it does work