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16GB MicroSD - how much will the Class affect performance?

Evening XDA!
So... It's time I upgraded my HD2's capacity. 16GB MicroSD's are now reasonably (ish! @ under £30) priced so that's what I want to go for. Most are Class 2 but I've seen a few Class 6s knocking about too.
Is the speed difference, in reality, a massive issue? Stuff I do that perhaps might require speed:
Watching XviDs in TCPMP
Taking photos
TomTom/iGO
Music
Will I notice much of a difference between the two classes of cards?
Any feedback is much appreciated! Thanks!

u just can compare my
kingston sdhc 8gb class 6
to
sandisk sdhc 16gb class 2
i could figure out a speed advantage of the class 6 about 0.8 mb per sec
my 16gb class 2 got 3.8Mb/sec
my 8 gb class 6 got 4.5Mb/sec
copiing the same file....
if somebody got different rates pls post them there.
i never had any problem with the lower data transfer rate of my 16gb sdhc, smooth vids, instant starting apps, nearly same "short" install time for apps
Ps.: i was copiing a 7xx Mb video file to my HD2 in HDD mode

I have a class 2 16gb in my HD2 - I've had no problems with the speed.
watching AVI files with coreplayer is always smooth, tomtom loads up in about 3-4 seconds.
Remember the read speed is a lot higher than the write speed.

Generally you are going to be OK with a lower class. There are however certain things that a lower class memory card will limit, like HD video playback or a high speed game installed on the card (I think Asphalt is a good example of this).
You have to decide what your going to be using the card for and adjust how much you are expecting to spend accordingly.
Be aware that if you are going for a reputable brand then buy from a reputable site. Buying a Kingston or Sandisk from Ebay for a knock down price may mean you getting a cheap knock off. Tread carefully, and give this article a good read, give you a better idea of how easy it is to buy a knock-off card.
http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918
Hope this helps

I have been wondering the same because I have been debating on buying the new Kingston Class 10 16GB MicroSDHC card but if the HD2 can't fully utilize the speed, I will probably splurge for the SanDisk 32GB MicroSDHC card and get rid of a few of my 16GB MicroSDHC cards. It is kinda a hassle to carry around a card full of movies, card full of music, and a card full of pictures so I would love to get a 32GB when the price comes down a little more.

Anyone know any reputable sites??? I'm in Australia... So hard to find one to ship Australia and cheap!
I'm after the Kingston 16GB Class 10 card!!!

Thanks a lot for the tip guys. I'll definitely have to have a think about whether I'll need the extra speed, of the top off my head I don't think so but there's a good chance I'll be slapping a few PSX ISO's on the SD card in the future which I guess might be a factor!
@above - unsure of Aus sites, but stay away from ebay as another poster said. 99% of stuff from China (and a lot of the stuff local too) is cheap, low capacity memory hacked to appear to be 16GB and often enough they even include viruses on the damn things too!
UK buyers - Play.com are doing Class2 16GB's for £28 delivered (+Quidco cashback, www.quidco.com)

Jackuuuuu said:
Anyone know any reputable sites??? I'm in Australia... So hard to find one to ship Australia and cheap!
I'm after the Kingston 16GB Class 10 card!!!
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the only place in oz i could find a 16gb card for my hd2 was vodafone. it wasn't cheap ($89aud) but i've not had any issues with it. it says it's a class 2. i'm sure i read here on the forum that the class really isn't an issue with the hd2 anyway.

Jackuuuuu said:
Anyone know any reputable sites??? I'm in Australia... So hard to find one to ship Australia and cheap!
I'm after the Kingston 16GB Class 10 card!!!
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Umart sell the Kingston 16GB Class 2 Micro SD for $55. Unfortunately it's the only one they sell (no class 6 available on the website). Have purchased several times from them with no issues.

I did not even know there was a difference in classes. Glad I read this thread.

Class 10 SD cards
Anything over class 2 (which means it can read at a minimum or 2Mb sec) will be a waste of money on a mobile phone. Class 4 and up to the latest class 10, are designed for the speed needed on high end digital cameras that shoot HD videos.
Save your money, buy a good quality, genuine class 2 card, you will not see any difference on an HD2 with a class 10 card in it.

Some users reported that after changing their bundled class 2 card with class 6, music, album etc are up to 3 times faster in loading.
I just ordered a class 6 card to change it with mine class 2, will report about it.

Class
Im using the 16 gb kingston class 2 and it works like a sharm... if you are really picky you can go with a higher class card but be prepared to add some extra cash for a tiny bit of quicker preformance
Just so you will understand how the cards are built there is not much diference amongst the classes. This cards all have 16 Gb space whitch cover the tiny sd card. the diference is that on the higher class cards, the bytes will be shared out in a much more constructive way so it makes it easyer for the phone to read the data. we talk up to 2 seconds faster from the lowest class card to the highest class card. I belive thats from class 2 to class 6.
Good luck with your choice

Can the HD2 benefit from class 6 SD? Or is it a bottleneck >Class 2?

I ordered a class 6 16gb card to replace the slow-ass class 2 8GB card I had in my HD2.
First of all I couldnt find the format sd tool in my energy rom (1st July) so I had to format the card using vista while the HD2 was connected in disk drive mode. THAT TOOK OVER 1 HOUR.
(Is there a cab file to install the "Format SD Card" tool for the newer energyroms?)
Anyways after formatting (Fat 32, 16KB cluster), I started to copy my 1.4GB sd backup file to the card using the same method as above (disk drive mode)....
My maximum write speed was 2.7MB/sec. Average 2MB/sec.
Class 2 speeds????
After restoring the backup, which took forever, I ran spb benchmark on the card and was gutted to get slightly lower results than the old class 2 I was replacing.
Can the HD2 make use of anything faster than a class 2 card?
Has anyone here tested a class 6 or even 4 card and found good write speeds (~6MB/sec, or ~4MB/sec)?
Does it sound like I have bought a lemon (class 2 labelled as class 6)?
I have spoken to the seller and he is adamant that they ARE genuine class 6. Reckons he tested some of the batch in TrueHD cameras which will not accept <Class6. Seems genuine and some of his feedback states that the cards are Genuine class 6. Which leads me to think that the bottleneck could be the HD2... Does that sound likely?
I'm waiting for a microsd USB reader to arrive so I can test the card outside of the HD2, but Until I can do that... can anyone tell me if a class 6 is wasted in a HD2?
The strange thing is that when browsing photos/wallpapers etc, the thumbnails ARE loading maybe 3x quicker than my old class 2. So I'm pretty confused about this one.
Can anyone shed any light here? Feel free to post benchmark results/screenshots etc.
Thanks in advance.

can anyone PLEASE answer this ^^^?
Is there any point having a class 6 card in the HD2 instead of a class 2 or 4 card?

there is a thread in the accessories section have a gander in there, I no this is Q&A's but lots of talk about mem cards in the accessories section mate

Cheers mate, I'll take a look.

I will move this thread there. I also recently bought a Class 6 card and and have seen a huge improvement in media reading and over all performence.

I get 4-5MB/s both for reads writes with my 16GB class 6 card in disk drive mode.

Thanks zelendel and kilrah.
kilrah said:
I get 4-5MB/s both for reads writes with my 16GB class 6 card in disk drive mode.
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That is exactly the kind of data I'm looking to compare.
Whith my 'class 6' Im getting just under 3MB/S WRITE and under 6MB/S READ when using the HD2 in disk drive mode.
If I use the card in a USB 2.0 reader I can get around 5.5MB/S Write and ~11-13MB/S read.
Based on this alone would you say my card is a class 6 or not. I'm beginning to think it may be a class 4 re-labelled.
Picture browsing etc is faster with my class 6 but all benchmarks indicate it is identical speed to my genuine Kingston Class 2.
What do you guys reckon, Should I send this card back for a refund???

Well if you're getting 5.5 and over 11MB per second with a card reader then we can safely assume it's class 6. The bottleneck is something to do with the phone, rom, cable or simply the phone doesn't like this particular card etc...
EDIT: Test your class 2 card with the memory card reader and see if you get similar results.

ez2remember said:
Well if you're getting 5.5 and over 11MB per second with a card reader then we can safely assume it's class 6. The bottleneck is something to do with the phone, rom, cable or simply the phone doesn't like this particular card etc...
EDIT: Test your class 2 card with the memory card reader and see if you get similar results.
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Thank you for helping me clear things up.
Comparing the 'class 6' and the 'class 2' transfer speeds is where I really get confused here.
Transferring a ~700MB .Avi to and from SD using a reader:
Kingston Class 2 8GB:
Read 12.5MB/s
Write 5.4MB/s
Unbranded Class 6 16GB:
Read 12.5MB/s
Write 6MB/s
So, from this, would you say its safe to assume:
1. The class 2 card is a good one, performing at almost class 6 speeds.
2. The class 6 card is 'Genuine' and shouldnt be returned.
3. There is a bottleneck when using the HD2 as a card reader/disk drive. I should be getting more than 2.5mb/s write speeds in this mode.
4? Does 12.5MB/sec sound close to USB 1.1 speeds? could my reader or even USB port (Vista laptop) be another bottleneck?
Once again thank you for helping me make sense of all this.
At least I now know that the 16gb card doesnt really need to be returned.
Can you give me your oppinions on the above?

Well class 2 means you should be getting a minimum 2MB/s speeds and class 6 means you should be getting a minimum 6MB/s.
Seems like you have a very good class 2 card.
More info here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital
Your class 6 is performing to spec.
Personally I would never buy an unbranded card but that's me. A branded card may perform better than there class rating e.g. Your Kingston brand I've always used Sandisk personally...

I've just managed to drum up enough funds to get myself a HD2 and now looking to upgrade my HCSD card to 16GB. To get the "right" class I tried to find the spec on the SD interface but I cannot find anything and the best data I can find is that I shouldn't waste my money on unbranded devices, I would always buy a SANDISK device for something I relied on! For data and communication!
People seem to get appropriate speeds for the class of device they have, if they are branded and sometimes if unbranded. However, there doesn't seem to be anything better than class 6 results debated or given. Is it a VERY rash assumption that the fastest the HD2 interface can go is Class 6?
Chris

Does this mean its not worth getting 32gb cos its a class2
& theat would make the phone slower cos lot more stuff on it
& will take more loading time & play Videos lagy ?
anyone useing 32gb ?
Thanks

My experience was positive with higher class micro SD.
At first, I used 8GB micro SD bundled with my HD2 and didn't notice improved loading speed. Later, I changed it with higher class one, same 8GB, with same manufacturer, Sandisk. Higher class one has name "Ultra" on it. Now with changed SD, loading became WAY faster. "Wow" I realized the higher speed of CPU of HD2.
My 2 pennies.

NEVER EVER buy unbranded memory cards!
Keep an eye on Sandisk cards only and even prefer them to Transcend and Kingston.

MicroSDHC 32GB C2 or 16GB C10?

I was thinking about upgrading from my current Sandisk 16GB c2. As many of you know Sandisk is out with there 32GB c2 MicroSDHC which is selling for $100 by Verizon. But if you look on ebay you can also find other 32gb c2/c4 MicroSDHC from TopRAM and Centon. Now I personally have never heard any of these company so I am very spectacle.
Now my question is which would you go with 32GB c2 or 16GB class c6/c10? To me its storage vs transfer rate.
1) Sandisk 32GB MicroSDHC Class 2 = $100
2) Kingston 16GB MicroSDHC Class 10 = $135

Clearly you should really been far 16GB storage even as decided to use even go want to do look more like 32GB transfer rate?

FYI 16gb class 10 Kingston is $98.99 over @ newegg and if you look hard enough u can find it around $79

I am not sure what you are saying but some claims that the Sandisk 32GB C2 they get around 5mb/s write. So IDK ATM as Kingston 32GB Class 6 is selling for $700 on ebay WTF? Last time I check they didn't even have 32GB class 2, could be fake who knows.

sti-06 said:
FYI 16gb class 10 Kingston is $98.99 over @ newegg and if you look hard enough u can find it around $79
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I am aware of that as they been had it for sometimes now but I was more leading to 32GB but who knows if I do decide to go with 16GB I might go with C10 from Kingston.
But has anyone tried TopRAM 32GB Class 4 or Centon 32GB Class 4? If so is it thoughly tested via R/W IOPs and fully chunking the card.

HyperNode said:
I am aware of that as they been had it for sometimes now but I was more leading to 32GB but who knows if I do decide to go with 16GB I might go with C10 from Kingston.
But has anyone tried TopRAM 32GB Class 4 or Centon 32GB Class 4? If so is it thoughly tested via R/W IOPs and fully chunking the card.
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You cant go wrong with ScanDisk
its a safe bet

ilordvader could you test the R/W speed of your card and post back.

So after searching and reading many threads in various forums I came to the conclusion that even class 6 is an overkill so class 10 is out of the question other than bragging rights.
Now has anyone used Transcend or A-Data? they seem to be selling at Newegg so they can't be questionable unknown like TopRAM or Centon which I never even heard of until I was searching for MicroSDHC.
Anyone recommend any 16GB class 6 cards? I am still unsure on not ordering SanDisk 32GB Class 2 as storage is high but the speed is low. As majority of user who running Android port do recommend getting anything over class 2.

Extreme candidates:
Sandisk 32GB MicroSDHC Class 2 - $100 < Storage
Kingston 16GB MicroSDHC Class 10 - $135 < Speed
Are these the only reputable 16GB Class 6 candidates?
A-Data 16GB Class 6 - $53.99
Transcend 16GB Class 6 - $62.99
Lexar 16GB Class 6 - $69.99 < Questionable; produce inferior products
Has anyone heard of these company before?
Centon 16GB Class 6 - $58.99 < Questionable; but listed under Newegg
3C_Pro 16GB Class 6 - $44.99
TOPRAM 16GB Class 6 - $44.99
Team 16GB Class 6 - $44.99

i bought this. Komputerbay 32GB MicroSD SDHC Microsdhc Class 6. £88, which was preety steep.
i get read speads of around 3.5 mb/s and write speeds of 4.5 mb/s, i cant find my 2 speed to compare but it does seem quicker.
though the web site gaurantees minimum 6 mb/s write speeds.
it was amazon so i though it would be ok.
edit.
just tested it again i am getting 6 mb/s read speeds now.

johnwalk did you thoroughly test the card? by formatting and filling it up fully with chunks? if you can confirm its overall performance then I might also order it. Can't wait for other vendors to make it as I need it now. On class 2 card it takes like 30min to just move around 4.5gb now that's way to long for me as I'm always on the go, but thanks for your reply as ill look in to that company.

I don't want to spoil anything, but my HD2 just destroyed my 8GB Sandisk card. 'Luckily' this was not a $100 card, but still.......
Are you shure you want to spent that much, or did you never have your previous card(s) being destroyed?
Wish you goodluck anyway

i just formated it normally the filled it up with music and video still got two gigs left im like a dog with two tails i dont know what to listen to first lol. but the tests i done with it was when it was 28 gigs full only had it two weeks and at first it was slow, especially when you went into the music player it took a few seconds to update but hey a lot of files to browse but its been ok the past few days, but im now at the stage where i dont plug it into my computer anyway i just access my pc and transfer albums by wifi takes about a minute an album, any video usually gets streamed anyway, but wanted a bigger selection when i go on holiday next month.
def recomend this card thougth the first few days i thought i should have gone for the class two, im now happy with it now it all working properly.

I'm at work now and in an hour when I go home ill thoroughly look in to this card and post my finding. As I never even have heard of the company and if I like it ill post feedback here so others can buy it with confidence.
Far as flr goes how did HD2 destroy your card? corrupted the data? or the flash device is unreadable fully? BTW I never needed an flash card before as this is my first smartphone. Also I was welling to spend $750 few months before HD2 was officially deployed in USA. So I'm not worried about $100.
PS: Also have an eye on HD3 as the spec is 90% accurate from my guess after looking at the specs. So let's see what happens as I don't want a device which may have 2 versions, hence EU-Leo512 and EU-Leo1024.

off topic but im seriously looking into the new batch of android tablets which are just coming out now, maybe 7" or 10"

HyperNode said:
I'm at work now and in an hour when I go home ill thoroughly look in to this card and post my finding. As I never even have heard of the company and if I like it ill post feedback here so others can buy it with confidence.
Far as flr goes how did HD2 destroy your card? corrupted the data? or the flash device is unreadable fully? BTW I never needed an flash card before as this is my first smartphone. Also I was welling to spend $750 few months before HD2 was officially deployed in USA. So I'm not worried about $100.
PS: Also have an eye on HD3 as the spec is 90% accurate from my guess after looking at the specs. So let's see what happens as I don't want a device which may have 2 versions, hence EU-Leo512 and EU-Leo1024.
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Hope the HD3 is for Att this time

I've got up to 14.7 MB/sec on my 16GB Kingston Class 10.. and my phone works soo smooth now!
Compared android sliding of homepage on my 2GB Class 2 card and my 16GB Class 10 card, and there is some lag with the 2GB card, and none at all (100% realtime) with the 16GB card..
So, personally I'd say; save some exrtra bucks and go for the 16GB Class 10 Kingston one!

@HyperNode
There are several threads here regarding SD cards being destroyed, or whatever description is given to it.
From one moment to another you get the message that you're card has to be formatted. If you accept it, it says something like (only) 30 MB being available, which doesn't get formatted. Your card can no longer be seen by your HD2, nor by your PC or any other cardreader (afaik)
I´ve never had this problem before. It looks like a specific HD2 problem.
Either with or without a combination to a specific brand or card.
I'm very curious about your experiences.
Please keep us updated.
Thanks and goodluck!

Same here. Mythen hd 2 just destroyed my SD card des SYstem ago
It happened already bevor, Thatcher i couldn't See Thema data anymore , but nie i Cantel even Format it anymore
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This is worth it, take it from someone who was looking for something other than SanDisk 32GB C2 I have been waiting for Kingston's 32GB C4 for long time and when it came out I got it though offical site for $159.

Yeah, I ordered one of these last week from newegg along with an otterbox defender case for $33 w/free shipping for both.... not too bad at all. Should be getting them today. Has anyone used the Kingston class 4 32gb card for running android on the hd2?
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Well, far as I know people do claim the R/W IOPs for HD2 when card inside the device won't go beyond class 2 rate but some who did use class 4-6 cards said they did see major improvement in terms of loading OS/Apps from mSD card. Anything beyond class 4 is an overkill on HD2 that I accept unless you are moving around massive amount of data and use HD2 as your mean to transfer it, in that case just buy thumb drive.
"Sent from my PC using THE hand" lol

I was in a Fry's Electronics the other day and I saw a 16gb Class 10 microsd card for $32.00. Don't remember the maker but it was not name brand, that is extremely questionable

wow
my videos which are about 12g play almost instantly now i love this card and the free usb reader, thanks kingston

Ya this card was worth waiting for hell I shot up an storm in this section comparing other vendors. Now I have the SanDisk 16GB C2 card not sure what to do with it, hopefully I can sell that cheap.

same
stuck with the sandisk

I ordered this 32GB class 4 card from Kingston and it is much slower then my old SanDisk card. Booting Android took over 5 minutes and after that the device still is VERY slow.
With its card reader I could copy my files onto it with 3-4MB/s.
Then I installed SKTools under Windows Mobile and used its benchmark tool to compare my SD Cards:
My old SanDisk 8GB card (stock one from the blackstone, afaik class 2): ~6,6MB/s reading and 1,1-1,5MB/s writing
The new class 4 32GB Kingston card: ~2,2MB/s reading and 500-700KB/s writing
So I can't use Android with this crappy SD card.

Ya IDK man same on my end. Took me 25min to traf 320mb files, ATM showing me 116min to traf 4.1gb.

i got kingston 23gb class 4. really disappointed takes forever to transfer. but speed test shows its class 4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861232
oh yeah i got the one from frys it rocks to bad its not 32gb.

I would stick with SanDisk.
I wanned to try out a faster card so got a class 6 Kingston 8gb.. while it loaded things faster, it caused severe stuttering and lagginess at times.
Upon reserach i found, kingston, and many other cards are not the same quality grade as sandisk, i am told in order to be price competitive they buy crap from others at cheap and stick thier name in it. And sometimes they buy rejects from sandisk, toshiba, samsung etc and brand them.....
Unfortunately i cant remmeber the links i researched....
So i would stick with sandisk, or another proven manufacturer....

UThis is total BS, I started it at like 6PM and now its 10:40PM and still 78min's to go WTF and its just 4.2GB music files avg at like 3-6mb/ea. Now I remember putting the whole dir in SanDisk 16GB Class 2 in less than 40min. So WTF does it take so long? Also as I wrote to Kingston CS ill share it here.
To make the file transfer go faster you have to directly allocate the file in memory thus saving time for R/W IO access. I did test many times but I am not even sure HD2 is following SD 2.0 or is it just this POS card no were close to even the stock SanDisk's.
Test: Dir with 5 files at 5mb/ea so thats 25mb. If you copy each file you reduce the time by 3x but if you copy the dir all the objects inside takes time to allocate for some reason.
PS: I am thinking about now getting SanDisk 32GB Class 2.
***UPDATE***
3.85GB
Write
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SanDisk 16GB Class 2 = 26min
Kingston 32GB Class 4 = 191min

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Ya IDK man same on my end. Took me 25min to traf 320mb files, ATM showing me 116min to traf 4.1gb.
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I also don't understand this.. I have a 16gb C2 card and wanted to experiment a lot with the various android roms out there, so thought a C4 would be the answer. ordered a 16gb C4 and it is always slower than the C2. a full 30 seconds on booting Android.
This confuses me.....okay okay .. thats not hard to do, but as far as I'm concerned if a card is rated at twice the "constant" speed of the other .. it should be faster...
<fx: scratches head and moves on>

HyperNode said:
Well, far as I know people do claim the R/W IOPs for HD2 when card inside the device won't go beyond class 2 rate but some who did use class 4-6 cards said they did see major improvement in terms of loading OS/Apps from mSD card. Anything beyond class 4 is an overkill on HD2 that I accept unless you are moving around massive amount of data and use HD2 as your mean to transfer it, in that case just buy thumb drive.
"Sent from my PC using THE hand" lol
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I think it really depends on the card and not the class. I have a couple of Class4 and Class6 cards with identical builds of android and my class2 16gb continually outperform them in boot times and general speed. Class only designates write speed and there is a lot more to an SD card's performance that is not captured in the class designation.

ATM I am thinking about returning the Kingston 32GB C4 as I spoke to Kingston Tech Support and might go with SanDisk 32GB C2. Alot of people say SanDisk is superior and is faster for some reason and getting close to class 4 rating.

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ATM I am thinking about returning the Kingston 32GB C4 as I spoke to Kingston Tech Support and might go with SanDisk 32GB C2. Alot of people say SanDisk is superior and is faster for some reason and getting close to class 4 rating.
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I can only quote my experience and that is that kingston C4 is NOT fast at all.
Good luck to you.. and if you find the San Disk C4 is sooo much faster than the C2 can you report back please .. ?? So I can go get one

I just bought a kingston 32gb class 6 micro sdhc but when ever i put it in my hd2 it just freezes up and as soon as I remove the card it works fine again.At first i thought that it was a fake so I:
1)performed multiple tests,
2)reformated a 1000 times,
3)even putting 20gb of data just to make sure.
Turns out that it is authentic and it works perfectly on my girlfriend's htc BalckStone it also worked when I installed NAND (which i later removed due to insufficient memory).Ive been searching for days, I think its a windows mobile issue, any tips??

gothikserpent said:
I just bought a kingston 32gb class 6 micro sdhc but when ever i put it in my hd2 it just freezes up and as soon as I remove the card it works fine again.At first i thought that it was a fake so I:
1)performed multiple tests,
2)reformated a 1000 times,
3)even putting 20gb of data just to make sure.
Turns out that it is authentic and it works perfectly on my girlfriend's htc BalckStone it also worked when I installed NAND (which i later removed due to insufficient memory).Ive been searching for days, I think its a windows mobile issue, any tips??
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LOL you are way to funny man as you said "I just bought a kingston 32gb class 6 micro sdhc" and then on top of that "Turns out that it is authentic".
I am guessing you got this card from eBay? If thats the case then its fake ill tell you why as there is no Kingston 32GB Class 6 card ATM. My best bet is you do extended data testing on it and verify the content to make sure its not corrupted. But if I was you I wouldn't do any of this as ill return that POS, why take chance with your data? Also NEVER buy memory cards via eBay or else you will be pwned with notorious chinese fakes.
But for those who actually thinking about buying the legit Kingston 32GB Class 4 microSD read below and think twice.
STHNS said:
Here this might be helpful to you.
Code:
df /dev/mnt/sdcard
File system: FAT32 (0x0c)
Used space: 16.0 KB (16,384 bytes)
Free space: 29.8 GB (32,073,891,840 bytes)
The data below is the actual IOPs from System (USB: Standard-A) to Device (USB: Micro-B) via USB (USB 2.0/SD 2.0). I am not using any type of card reader for this test as we only want the actual data rate of the card itself natively while its mounted in the device.
Subject: Kingston 32GB Class 4 (4MB/s) microSDHC.
Sequential Test Data (Block Size = 1024KB|0 Fill = 0x00)
Read [MB/s]: 13.07+11.72+13.11=37.9/3=12.63
Write [MB/s]: 4.080+3.339+1.592=9.011/3=3.00
Sequential Test Data (Block Size = 1024KB|1 Fill = 0xFF)
Read [MB/s]: 13.07+13.10+11.61=37.78/3=12.59
Write [MB/s]: 3.659+2.618+3.607=9.884/3=3.30
Mode: Low level R+W+V initialization
Data volume: 30588MBytes
Patterns: 18 sets, 8 of "walking one", 8 of "walking zero", 55h, AAh
Writing speed [03:24:28]: 2.49 MByte/s
Reading speed [00:44:20]: 11.5 MByte/s
Burst write: 4.0+4.0+4.0=4.0 MB/s
Burst read: 10.0+9.0+9.0=9.33 MB/s
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It's class 4 but it's very expensive.. too much money for just a SD card

Which SD Cards are the best ?

I couldn't find a real answer to this anywhere, but I plan on installing CM7 to an SD Card - and boot/run from the card.
Which class of SD card should I be shooting for - and why? Are there any certain brands that work well/don't work well? The same for sizes - is 16GB going to be faster than 32GB ?
Thanks. I'm shooting for a 16 GB internal which should be more than enough space.

Sandisk class 2 or 4
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Search this forum and you will find that the Sandisk class 4 disks are great. The best part is they are available at most retail stores, if your impatient. I've been using a 16gb card for a while and it runs stable and smooth.

+1 vote for Sandisk

SanDisk class 4.
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SanDisk class 4, 16GB
see the other topics here about sd cards, there are some good known resellers on Amazon who have real SanDisk cards, not the fakes that you can finds for cheaper some places online.

Are there known issues with other brands or faster (eg; class 6 / 10) SD cards on the NC, or is it just when booting the likes of CM7 from them?

SamboNZ said:
Are there known issues with other brands or faster (eg; class 6 / 10) SD cards on the NC, or is it just when booting the likes of CM7 from them?
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Some other cards do have known issues or possibly don't live up to their speed class rating. You might get lucky and get a decent one out of a bunch, but its very hit or miss. Other cards have also been known to die after using them for a bit.
If you're looking for something that is reliable and is consistent, then stick with SanDisk class 4.

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Are there known issues with other brands or faster (eg; class 6 / 10) SD cards on the NC, or is it just when booting the likes of CM7 from them?
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I tried A-data 4GB and 8GB class 6, they both run great, tried a generic 16GB class 4, horrible slow. Haven't try any SanDisk yet.

sandisk 8gb class 4 seems to work ok for me
if i went anything larger than 8gb i would want above class 4 speeds i think

Read first post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
sandisk CL4, 8GB and 16GB seem to be the best bet. faster cards appear to be optimized for speed and large file transfers, but the CL4 and slower cards have better small file read/write speeds.
runnnig CM7 off the card, you want the better small file read/write speeds from the CL4 and slower cards.
~mike

Anyone tested any Sandisk Class 6 cards?

Amazon Basics class 10 sdcards work pretty good for me...but i have never run a rom from the actually sd card.
But for $28 (16gb) it actually is class 10-i have all my music and videos and they all perform well. I used to get force closes on my music player back when i had music on internal memory but now that its on external sd i have no force closes
In conclusion the 16gb class 10 amazon basics for $28 has improved my phone satisfaction
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Found one result for a Sandisk Class 6:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21268438&postcount=317
Seems to perform well!

This does not hold if you are running off the card. I have a 16GB class 6 Kingston and it runs terribly slow. My class 4 sandisk 16GB runs great.
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This does not hold if you are running off the card. I have a 16GB class 6 Kingston and it runs terribly slow. My class 4 sandisk 16GB runs great.
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Before I committed to emmc my lower class cards ran faster.
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What monkeymike said.
Pretty much if you get anything but a class 2 or 4 Sandisk(i'd say class 4 for best of both worlds), you run a risk of an unstable system. The benchmark tests seem to put them many orders of magnitude above the higher class cards of other brands.
Plus they seem to be on special just about anywhere i've asked for them. Try radioshack if you are in the US.

I think you'll find that extensive benchmarking of a heap of cards has shown that the ones which are slow to boot are the same ones which have very low 4k random write speeds (as per monkeymike's post reference). The Sandisk 16GB Class 6 cards appear to have decent speeds for 4k random writes, ergo they will be fine to boot from. Other class 6 cards don't perform nearly as well as the Sandisk ones.

I've seen numerous benchmarks around the web showing that the Sandisk class 4's consistently match or beat the class 10's from other manufacturers and I've had great results with them in both my NC and my phones.
That said, its not going to run as well from an SD card (any sd card) as it will when properly installed as the main OS. I know this from experience. I was running CM7 from a generic class 2 for a while and it sucked. Then I got a Sandisk 16gb class 4 and that made a huge difference in usability. But over the weekend I finally took the plunge and actually installed CM7 directly on the NC-and that is a huge improvement over even the best SD card. Still, the Sandisk class 4 is a good way to test the waters.