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Hey guys,
I'm brand new to this stuff, and I've searched the forums to the best of my abilities and I don't see a fix yet.
I just flashed the new Cognition ROM and used Titanium Backup to "restore all apps with data". During this process, it went through my apps one by one, and asked me if I wanted to install them or cancel and not install them. I picked and chose which apps I wanted to keep and which to discard. As an aside, the apps in question were things like games/puzzles for my kid to play with, and games and such that I had downloaded from the Market to try out but forgot to uninstall.
So, after everything was restored, I started to test stuff out, and everything works...except incoming calls. I get the "The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly. please try again. force close"
Is there any fix for this besides going back to stock and retrying the new ROM? If there is a solution to this a link to the thread would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for posting this, I am having the same problem. Any help would be appreciated.
Also, what is the best way to go back to stock?
Rogers I-896
This is for rogers i896 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905042
This is for AT&T i897 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
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This is for rogers i896 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905042
This is for AT&T i897 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
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So I use ODIN to go back to completely stock and try the ROM again, but use the "restore missing apps with data" option?
You should click restore missing apps + data. That should fix it
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Maybe I'm just picky or don't trust TiBu completely, but I always restore my apps individually. Never had a problem. I've been back and forth between Cognition and darkys ROMs and (of course) stock on my AT&T Cappy.
Yup restore back to stock... and if you had issues with doing a TiBu restore with "Apps and Data" I would recommend just using "Apps Only" option in TiBu.
BUT... I would test the ROM out before doing the restore to ensure it's not a ROM issue first.
If you do not wish to go back to stock, there were quite a few suggestions in the Cog 3.0x thread on this issue. A few people in that thread simply had a bad flash. One just needed to do a good solid reboot to fix it. Another suggestion was to clear the dalvik and cache using ClockWorkMod Recovery (red version). Lastly, lots of people FC'ing with the phone process were experiencing problems due to the ogg files in phone.apk being compressed when they should not be (reportedly) and was fixed by disabling the "Call Status Tone" in settings/call settings/all calls/call status tone. One of these could be your problem.
If you wish to just try again the simple way, it would probably be your best bet to Odin back to stock, do the master clear (it seems to be a topic of debate if this is the best thing to do, but it is mentioned in a few different tutorials), and flash again. Then TiBu to restore your apps+data (as mentioned... no system data, just app data) again.
If you wish to try to fix the problem, one place to start might be a fixed phone.apk in the Cog 3.0x thread in the Development section for Captivate. It is posted by Andrewk_77 somewhere between page 85 and 90, I think (sorry, I've been trying to keep up with the reading of that thread for days in order to head off any problems I may run into with Cog 3 and it's kinda blurring together). Otherwise you'll have to try to search out other solutions in that thread.
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Found that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10685612&postcount=861
I know that they don't seem to be describing the exact same problem, but might be worth a shot.
I reflashed Cog 3.02, didn't use TiBu to restore anything, just set it up myself again. Phone works fine now.
Though I do have a question about flashing back to stock: would I just put the stock ROM (in this case Rogers 2.2) onto the SD, and flash it using CWM? Or do I need to use ODIN, in which case I would get the AT&T ROM? Thanks for helping a newbie out.
Hey I have a question I am on Darkyy 9.3 and have flashed to stock before numerous times and have a Download Mode Jig always handy but I have been hearing and reading recently that with good ROMs with the new install script that you can just flash ROMs over each other if you wipe data and cache and dalvik cache and if you get in trouble just flash to stock.
The reason this interests me is because im a build 1011 and its super annoying because I have to flash to JH3, then Root, then apply 3 button fix.zip sometimes if the 3 buttons dont work, ROM Manager, Quick Boot, JH7ota.zip, then flash the next ROM.
I am willing to do this but I am feeling lazy today and wanna try out Serendipity so Im asing YOU do you think i'll be alright if I flash Serendipity JS3 over a JS5 Darkyy 9.3?
Also one more questions related to that is Serendipity users does it overwrite your Kernel and modem when flashing? I have Suckerpunch and JL3 and am wondering if I should disable lag fix-->Install latest Speedmod. Or would the ROM script just overwrite that.
Finally a question that was posed to me today from a user that doesnt flash to stock and hasnt had a problem that really made me think that what really is the difference when using Odin which installs an unneccesary bootloader and ect going from a JS5 base to a JH3, then using CWM to go JS5 to JS3? Wouldnt it seem logically easier and safer?
Any input and comments about your experience will be GREATLY appreciated.
you can use odin1click, or odin3...
since you have a jig, flashing to stock is not a big deal to you.
Owais1437 said:
you can use odin1click, or odin3...
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he cannot use odin 1click since the build is 1011. it will brick the phone, for sure.
I Odin3 back to stock, but I'm also on the safe side. I have heard more and more people flash over the old ROM with using Odin though.... I figure that it only adds a few more minutes to the overall task, so why not?
always flash stock imo
just best to go to stock , flashing over has created small bugs for me ..., i do this even for common builds or updates, even though the Dev's work hard to make them upgradeable...i still do .....and if your courageous,,, its good you have the jig or a 1007 build
My personal choice is flash to stock if the roms use different kernels. If the kernel is the same, even different revs of same, I don't bother with stock.
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he cannot use odin 1click since the build is 1011. it will brick the phone, for sure.
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I use print one click all the time and my phone is build 1012
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I always flash to stock and go through the whole process. I find it less buggy and the mental idea of a clean slate allows me to address issues solely on that rom and not past components.
It's sure as heck faster to flash to stock than to read through 1000's of posts to figure out if it's a good idea or not when I don't know as much about it...
I'm still new to the flashing ROMs world, but I'd rather be safe than sorry at this point so I go back to stock whenever I switch.
Ive now just wiped data cache and dalvik cache, and flashed over 4 ROMs in the past week with ZERO problems.
That being said im always safe I do it at home with my jig and odin ready on my PC.
But i actually havent had a single problem.
Darkyy-->Andromeda-->Paragon-->Serendipity
Hey all. Just joined the forums a few minutes ago and I have a burning question on why it is necessary to flash back to stock with odin before you try different roms. Why can you not just boot into clockwork, factory wipe, wipe cache, wipe d cache and then simply load the new rom from sd? The reason I ask is because I have been bouncing between cognition and paragon for about 2 weeks now NOT using the method of flashing back to stock 2.1 without a single problem. I'm sure there is a good reason flashing back to 2.1 before trying new roms, I would just like to know why. I was able to preform a stock wipe using odin3 one time last week (just did it to make sure the phone would do it) it just seems like a really long process, but I'll start doing it that way to avoid a brick.
Thanks
to be safe, and some roms mod files that others dont, some roms depend on apps and files in the stock rom that might be different or not there at all in other roms.
long process? extra 5 minutes when you get used to it. if you are ATT use ODIN ONE CLICK to restore stock 2.1 (hint: it takes one click)
For the most part, you don't really need to flash back to stock. It used to be a bigger deal to flash back to stock because some of the Roms would intervene with each other and mess things up. It is still recommened for a clean flash, but I rarely do it and my flashes work great.
EDIT: @Trusselo: damn it! Second time someone beat me to the answer tonight!
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and forget ODIN ONE CLICK !!
i keep forgetting about this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944418
ALL IN ONE CAPTIVATE TOOLBOX
I have been trying roms weekly since November and have only needed to flash to stock twice, after failed flashes caused by my lack of patience. YMMV of course
jayjr1105 said:
Hey all. Just joined the forums a few minutes ago and I have a burning question on why it is necessary to flash back to stock with odin before you try different roms. Why can you not just boot into clockwork, factory wipe, wipe cache, wipe d cache and then simply load the new rom from sd?
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It's not necessary and not even a good idea. Also, why wipe cache and d-cache when the install script does that?
Trusselo said:
to be safe, and some roms mod files that others dont, some roms depend on apps and files in the stock rom that might be different or not there at all in other roms.
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ROMs don't mod or use any files which are on the phone prior to installing them. All the files on your phone after the install were in the CWM flashable zip file. Any ROM cook would be stupid to do otherwise. The exception would be no-wipe ROMs, but you would never flash to stock before using one of those.
Ive also wondered this as well and talking to guys like opcow, and a couple other Devs such as MikeyMike and a lot of guys at the Andromeda IRC they all agree that you should be perfectly fine now as long as you wipe everything before you flash.
I may try with Andromeda when I get home because I have my PC and Jig there just in case but still may try now. But also tlaking to a lot of users that they dont even do it anymore now because of the install scripts and as Opcow said if you think logically its technically safer.
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long process? extra 5 minutes when you get used to it. if you are ATT use ODIN ONE CLICK to restore stock 2.1 (hint: it takes one click)
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Actually thats not true at all.
If your a build 1009 and under you can use the one click. Although the build 1008 sometimes have problems.
But for the Build 1010's and up (like me) you have to use Odin3 and take a good 30-40 minutes just to get to JH7 because half of the time I lose my 3 buttons then have to push the 3 button fix over via ADB. I have gotten use it and its a pain in the ass.
And the time I listened to someone that says ALL ATT people can use the one click it completely ****ed my phone and if I didnt have a jig my phone would have been completely screwed up.
Im not trying to be rude im just saying I saw a post very similar to that a couple weeks ago and it came very close to completely bricking my phone and reading posts here now saying they have the same problem and if they dont have a jig they just got a 200 dollar paper weight.
Sorry for getting off topic back to topic today Im going to flash Andromeda over Darkyy 9.3 and wipe data cache and d cache in CWM and see how it goes although everyone and even the devs and a lot of users now a days say it should work perfectly.
Dlev7 said:
Actually thats not true at all.
If your a build 1009 and under you can use the one click. Although the build 1008 sometimes have problems.
But for the Build 1010's and up (like me) you have to use Odin3 and take a good 30-40 minutes just to get to JH7 because half of the time I lose my 3 buttons then have to push the 3 button fix over via ADB. I have gotten use it and its a pain in the ass.
And the time I listened to someone that says ALL ATT people can use the one click it completely ****ed my phone and if I didnt have a jig my phone would have been completely screwed up.
Im not trying to be rude im just saying I saw a post very similar to that a couple weeks ago and it came very close to completely bricking my phone and reading posts here now saying they have the same problem and if they dont have a jig they just got a 200 dollar paper weight.
Sorry for getting off topic back to topic today Im going to flash Andromeda over Darkyy 9.3 and wipe data cache and d cache in CWM and see how it goes although everyone and even the devs and a lot of users now a days say it should work perfectly.
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+1 Guys if you don't know exactly what to do/suggest please don't say it. I'm not trying to start a war, but a wrong suggestion can easily soft or hard brick someones phone. This is a forum, so no one can stop you from saying things, but think about if it happened to you? You would be pissed!
Anyways back on topic, what model phone do you have, because having a 1009 model phone makes flashing and going back to stock (usually) so much easier. But then again, I rarely use odin because all the roms are compatible for the most part.
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I've never used ODIN because I haven't wanted to try to run it from GNU/Linux in a virtual box.
I just wipe and flash from clockwork like the op. Been flashing roms for a couple months now, never had a single problem. (except when I noobed it up by trying to flash back to a nandroid backup via Rom Manager. Even then, didn't need Odin to sort it out).
If I ever run into a problem, then I'll try Odin, but I'm waiting to cross that bridge till I come to it.
To prevent exceptions or troubles from the version you already have... so everybody comes from the same rom, understand?
I flash to jf6 because that's what I have been conditioned to do for a while. However, the few times I was impatient and didn't....no problems either.
From all the reading I've done here, the only reason to do it is for the placebo effect.
There was once a time when all the new roms were built on the unofficial froyo and it only had 3e recovery. The quickest way to get around that was to flash stock. Also the lag fixes were tricky and easily fixed by flashing stock. Now recovery is in the kernel. As long as you insure the kernal lag fix in rom A understands the kernal lag fix in rom B flash away. Nandroid backups are kind of useless they don't backup the kernal or the modem. Save odin for when things go really wrong(;~ )
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I have done it both ways, and there its no difference going back to stock and or flashing over other roms. I flash often, have not got stick in boot loop in months
I like to go back to stock since I KNOW that everything has been defaulted back to normal. Just a security blanket step for me.
I flashed andromeda over darkyy 9.3 just wiping data cache and d cache. Nothing wrong. Everything worked perfect so I got to believe that if you just wipe everything it should work perfectly.
Just for safety I got a jig and odin but for now I'm saving a good 45 minutes to not flash back to stock
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I am already on CM7. Everything is fine, but I would like to flash Continuum. I already have 2.3.3 (and presumably the bootloaders). My question is: Exactly what method should I use to install? I try to avoid ODIN if I can help it. It gives me panic attacks. Lol
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Boraltis said:
I am already on CM7. Everything is fine, but I would like to flash Continuum. I already have 2.3.3 (and presumably the bootloaders). My question is: Exactly what method should I use to install? I try to avoid ODIN if I can help it. It gives me panic attacks. Lol QUOTE]
Just read over the op for C5. if you already have the 2.3 boot loaders you only need to flash the no boot version in recovery. The instructions in the op are very detailed.
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Also, im running Continuum 5 and it is real nice...
Thanks.
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Read the first 10-20 pages of C5 thread. Also, I don't think cm7 has2.3.3 bootloaders.
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You could always try flashing it without bootloaders and check it out. I have tried the other 2.3.3 ROMS out there and I find this one to be really smooth with very little issues. Battery is good, Rotation is great, Camera works good. If you have a Jig, you should not have any problems with ODIN.
When I went from CM7 to Continuum, I flashed back to Stock first just to be safe. Continuum V.5 RC2 is by far less buggy and smoother than CM7 in IMHO. I love it.
Boraltis said:
I am already on CM7. Everything is fine, but I would like to flash Continuum. I already have 2.3.3 (and presumably the bootloaders). My question is: Exactly what method should I use to install? I try to avoid ODIN if I can help it. It gives me panic attacks. Lol
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CM7 doesn't have the new bootloaders. flash to stock then flash continuum with bootloaders.
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longr6 said:
You could always try flashing it without bootloaders and check it out. I have tried the other 2.3.3 ROMS out there and I find this one to be really smooth with very little issues. Battery is good, Rotation is great, Camera works good. If you have a Jig, you should not have any problems with ODIN.
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Flash w/o bootloaders and you lose recovery. Then you have to use odin to go back to stock.
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The process layed out in the first post for Continuum works perfectly, I wouldn't be worried about flashing the one with bootloaders, as long as you READ every step in detail first!
Using Heimdall in Linux to install Continuum
I'm ready to install Continuum v5, but would prefer to avoid Odin and Windows. I'm running Cognition 4.3.1 now; installing that was easy, just using CWM recovery.
Anyone know how to install Continuum using Heimdall? Also, how do I flash back to stock using Heimdall?
TIA.
Doesn't Continuum v5 have ext4 by default?
Someone on the main Continuum forum said that the ext4 file system does not come installed by default but it could be enabled using the ext4 app in the app drawer. This sounds ridiculous. To change file systems, you have to do the equivalent of reformatting the partition. In order to not lose all your data, you would have to back up, change the file system, then restore. I doubt very much you could do that with a phone app.
Am I wrong?
Yes you are wrong. The app boots the phone into recovery backs up, converts, restores, and then reboots. All from one button press in the app.
I have used on perception2 beta 1 and took minute rebooted then had nothing change and didn't backup then converted back to rfs and flash beta 2 and lost nothing
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what is this rom anyways?? stock gingerbread
studacris said:
Yes you are wrong. The app boots the phone into recovery backs up, converts, restores, and then reboots. All from one button press in the app.
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Cool. I didn't know it could do that. Is it safe? I'll for sure back up everything before I do it but....
pixbuf said:
Cool. I didn't know it could do that. Is it safe? I'll for sure back up everything before I do it but....
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Just as safe as doing it from cwm on froyo ... A backup is recommended before you do ANYTHING cause sometimes even the simplest thing can **** something up...
Do I need 3 button combo to install using odin 3 button?
My captivate does not have the 3 button combo, so I have no way to get into download mode on my own. I have never used the Odin 3 button, but am very familiar with Odin one click. Odin one click automatically puts my phone into download mode in order to finish flashing to stock. I am wanting to install continuum v5, and understand the instructions fully, but just wanted to make sure before I started, that I can successfully install using icezars instructions, without the need for 3 button combo. Can anyone confirm if this is possible, or if I need to install the 3 button combo fix that is floating around the forums? Thanks in advance for any help.
I currently have Continuum V4 and used have AIO Captivate Toolbox to install most roms.
First it's not called "odin 3 button" it's just odin 3.
You don't technically need the button combo to flash it but if something goes awry and you end up in s boot loop, or soft brick your only fix then would be a jig...
After you make it to gingerbread you will have a working combo ... The buttons will be different thats in the op of continuum 5 ...
Thanks for clearing that up. I'm not sure where I came up with calling it that, and I've read plenty about Odin 3, but have still been a bit nervous when it comes to utilizing it. I am confident that I can follow directions well, and have read the instructions several times as well as many of the posts. I may have to order myself a jig just in case something does get messed up, but I'm antsy to get me some gingerbread love.
Again, thank you for the help.
So Bell Canada and Samsung both have terrible technical support.
My phone is i9000m, Bell Canada, running 2.3.3 (UGKG3). It had 2.2 in the box, and I upgraded through kies pretty recently.
Since the upgrade I have a few new problems that I didn't have before:
-GPS, which used to give me useful and reasonably accurate tracks for my walks and bike rides now spits out a bunch of garbage.
-Download mode still works, but recovery mode doesn't.
-Serious power drain under "Android OS." Upwards of 90% in an hour. Goes away if I kill "google services."
Do a factory reset if you haven't done one already. Most of the time that clears up any update bugs...
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ccrows said:
Do a factory reset if you haven't done one already. Most of the time that clears up any update bugs...
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This did nothing for me except give me the headache of re-installing all my apps (again). Still no recovery mode, shoddy GPS, and crazy battery drain... oh and my bluetooth keyboard no longer pairs? What's up with that!?
Anyone have any other ideas???
New issue:
Market hangs at white screen after starting install on 10th app. Reset sometimes allows installing another one or two, but after that it'll hang again.
guardianfox said:
New issue:
Market hangs at white screen after starting install on 10th app. Reset sometimes allows installing another one or two, but after that it'll hang again.
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Fixed, rolled back to previous version of Market.
New issue since another factory reset (2nd), 10 second delay between button press and lock screen.
I am sorely tempted to defenestrate my phone...
Why don't you flash a custom rom?
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woolf clubs said:
Why don't you flash a custom rom?
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If I could find a rom that fills all my needs better than stock 2.2, I'd be all over it. I have a lengthy list of requirements though, and warranty eligibility is in the top 3 (especially if I defenestrate the thing).
Can anybody recommend a rom with bluetooth working for wiimote and keyboards, netflix working smoothly (2.2 doesn't, stock 2.3.3 does), good power consumption, and stability?
In the mean time, I'm still dealing with the other issues outlined in this thread.
Flashing a custom rom would almost definately sort all your problems. As to which rom, you seem perfectly capable of reading. If you are worried about warranty, you can simply flash back to stock...........
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woolf clubs said:
Flashing a custom rom would almost definately sort all your problems. As to which rom, you seem perfectly capable of reading. If you are worried about warranty, you can simply flash back to stock...........
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For me that`s a last-ditch solution. I`m usually in a hurry when I break a phone and I`d want to be able to just plop it down at the bell booth during the work day, rather than taking it home first and flashing it (assuming it`s not broken beyond that point).
Hi,
I recommend you to try perform a Hard Reset with code *2767*3855# in dialer ( formats also your internal SD), flash the phone again (better with Odin) with a "standard" version.
Optional make a new Hard Reset (in special if didn't repartition the phone).
After that you can use a custom rom if you want. In past I used DocRambone rom, but now I preffer S.U.R.F.A.C.E. rom with Hardcore kernel and GO Launcher. GPS, phone, browser ....running without problems and battery keeps me over 50 h of medium use without GPS.
Tried hard reset and flashing the same stock 2.3.3 UGKG3 rom. No change. Still can't get into recovery mode, still crap gps, still 10 second lag between button press and screen on, still crazy battery drain.
Rolled back to 2.2, everything works except recovery mode and having weird problems with market imagining that I have apps I've never even looked at before and difficulty downloading. Market cache clear doesn't help. Hard reset doesn't help.
Upgraded through kies to UGKG3 again. Same problems as before, but market works at least. If no solutions available today, I'm taking it to Bell for service and maybe exchange. If that doesn't resolve I'll flash a custom rom.
DSGE said:
Hi,
I recommend you to try perform a Hard Reset with code *2767*3855# in dialer ( formats also your internal SD), flash the phone again (better with Odin) with a "standard" version.
Optional make a new Hard Reset (in special if didn't repartition the phone).
After that you can use a custom rom if you want. In past I used DocRambone rom, but now I preffer S.U.R.F.A.C.E. rom with Hardcore kernel and GO Launcher. GPS, phone, browser ....running without problems and battery keeps me over 50 h of medium use without GPS.
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New update...
GPS borked entirely this time. Gets a fix, but the fix doesn't follow me. If I run My Tracks, it just stays in a 10 meter area while I walk in a 4km circle away from and back to that area.
guardianfox said:
Tried hard reset and flashing the same stock 2.3.3 UGKG3 rom. No change. Still can't get into recovery mode, still crap gps, still 10 second lag between button press and screen on, still crazy battery drain.
Rolled back to 2.2, everything works except recovery mode and having weird problems with market imagining that I have apps I've never even looked at before and difficulty downloading. Market cache clear doesn't help. Hard reset doesn't help.
Upgraded through kies to UGKG3 again. Same problems as before, but market works at least. If no solutions available today, I'm taking it to Bell for service and maybe exchange. If that doesn't resolve I'll flash a custom rom.
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Phone was sent in for repairs and returned to me this morning. GPS still broken (completely, no signal period). Everything else seems fine.
the issues you are having suggest to me the problem is with the KG3 stock rom.
Before getting even more frustrated with both your phone and Bell, I would advocate:
1. do a complete phone clean with sd card reformat (sent you a pm with a link)
2. flash the stock JVR pda in odin and also flash the KG3 modem and CSC at the same time
3. you are then still on stock Samsung, official firmware and within warranty even if that firmware has yet to be released in Canada
4. then if you want you can still flash a custom JVR kernel and a custom JVR rom if you want to improve performance and/or alter features beyond stock
lgsshedden said:
the issues you are having suggest to me the problem is with the KG3 stock rom.
Before getting even more frustrated with both your phone and Bell, I would advocate:
1. do a complete phone clean with sd card reformat (sent you a pm with a link)
2. flash the stock JVR pda in odin and also flash the KG3 modem and CSC at the same time
3. you are then still on stock Samsung, official firmware and within warranty even if that firmware has yet to be released in Canada
4. then if you want you can still flash a custom JVR kernel and a custom JVR rom if you want to improve performance and/or alter features beyond stock
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Thanks for your help. I'll look into it.
Before I do that, do you or anyone else have the stock settings under *#*#3214789650#*#* (AngryGPS)??? The settings for the SUPL Settings section are all BLANK!!! I can only assume the rest of the settings in AngryGPS are too. That seems bad.