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[Q] Should I downgrade my Bell JK4 2.2 to 2.1 before it bricks?

Hey all you fellow sad bunch of Bell Galaxy owners,
I did the bell upgrade via kies, did factory reset, cache wipe, format sd card and so far my phone is running just dandy on the new froyo.
I did it because it was all official and now I see that they pulled the update! And looking at all these threads it looks like this will brick my phone in a matter of days simply because of bad software, not hardware.
Should I try to downgrade before I'm doomed? And where do I find the old bell files to do this odin thing?
Any advice/curious musings would be greatly appreciated.

Yes.
I had mine on jk4 for a day and then changed firmwares. No issues so far.
I'm running jpu now.

Thanks! Hey it's not clear to me as to what is the best route to do the downgrade for the i9000m, and which roms are compatible with this bell version, can I install any rom and be fine?
I have the idea that the i9000m is quite different from the other galaxy s variants.
Rom manager doesn't work on this phone so I guess my only option is odin?

From what I understand, failure is mainly caused by a data corruption on the SDCard when changing firmware. So I'd stay away from frecquent firmware change for now...the more you do it, the higher the risk is.
JK4 is still official, so if you get issue with it, you're pretty much covered by the waranty.

I did mine and its been fine no problems
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Dusante said:
Thanks! Hey it's not clear to me as to what is the best route to do the downgrade for the i9000m, and which roms are compatible with this bell version, can I install any rom and be fine?
I have the idea that the i9000m is quite different from the other galaxy s variants.
Rom manager doesn't work on this phone so I guess my only option is odin?
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Rom Manager won't work on JK4 stock because it installed 3e recovery which checks that update.zip files are signed before running them. If you choose to stick with JK4 and want to pursue Rom Manager, your best bet is probably using a kernel which has Rom Manager built in. For example, I flashed SpeedMod Kernel k10j on one of my phones (check the i9000 dev forums).
If you choose to "downgrade", use Odin. JK3 (2.2) and JH2 (2.1) are Bell specific firmwares. Alternatively, using the reg hack solution might work (I've never used it myself so can't offer help). Let us know if you need help with Odin or flashing an earlier firmware.

How do I downgrade my Bell Vibrant? I have 2 Bell Vibrants.. 1 already got the SDcard error 3 days after updating to 2.2.. My second one is still working (2.2) and I want to save it! Please show me how to safely downgrade back to 2.1

Bricks were happening before Froyo 2.2 (JK4) came out of the official channel (Kies).
Nobody can say for certain that it has something to do with JK4 or with an internal hardware issue that is a ticking time bomb. If your phone is working fine on 2.2 (like mine), enjoy it, otherwise send it back to Bell for repair when it dies.

bimmerboii said:
How do I downgrade my Bell Vibrant? I have 2 Bell Vibrants.. 1 already got the SDcard error 3 days after updating to 2.2.. My second one is still working (2.2) and I want to save it! Please show me how to safely downgrade back to 2.1
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1) Verify you have Recovery and Download mode still working (3 button combo).
2) Remove any lag fixes if you have applied them and download the UGJH2 PDA from Samsung firmware website.
3) Start Odin and put the JH2 firmware (tar file) in the PDA section.
4) Put the 512 pit file that came with Odin install in the PIT section.
5) Click Re-partition.
6) Stop Kies if running and connect phone to USB cable.
7) Ensure that Odin recognizes the phone in the ID:COM section.
8) Click Re-Partition and hit Start.
9) Pray that it works, wait for it to reboot and wait for it to startup, it may take longer than normal for the first boot.
I'm not responsible if it does not work out for you.... Personally, if you have it working on JK4, I would leave it well enough alone.

Thanks for giving the step by step guide.. I am experiencing some FC's on JK4.. I think it's on it's way to getting bricked.. I wana put back JH2 as soon as possible

I went back to JK3 as I've had no problems with it and it's given me the best battery life. Its currently sitting at 84% remaining battery after 12 hours use.

xedd said:
1) Verify you have Recovery and Download mode still working (3 button combo).
2) Remove any lag fixes if you have applied them and download the UGJH2 PDA from Samsung firmware website.
3) Start Odin and put the JH2 firmware (tar file) in the PDA section.
4) Put the 512 pit file that came with Odin install in the PIT section.
5) Click Re-partition.
6) Stop Kies if running and connect phone to USB cable.
7) Ensure that Odin recognizes the phone in the ID:COM section.
8) Click Re-Partition and hit Start.
9) Pray that it works, wait for it to reboot and wait for it to startup, it may take longer than normal for the first boot.
I'm not responsible if it does not work out for you.... Personally, if you have it working on JK4, I would leave it well enough alone.
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is this likely the best way to get an i9000m that has been upgraded to 2.2 to have e2 recovery? Also where would i download the JH2 rom file?

AdamArchibald said:
is this likely the best way to get an i9000m that has been upgraded to 2.2 to have e2 recovery? Also where would i download the JH2 rom file?
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its all here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9776920&postcount=26
successfully downgraded to 2.1 will now upgrade to 2.2 JL2

I've been running JK4 since it got realeased and so far so good. Never had any probleme related to firmware. My phose is a new one got after my first one died using JPC so I don't think it's related to firmware but realy hardware.
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Going back to stock JPY

Sorry if there has been a thread like this that was posted already, had a look but couldn't find what I am looking for.
I would like to restore my Galaxy S (running now with Doc's 6.2 ROM) back to JPY and would like to remove my root as I keep having problems with freezing on several ROMs.
What is the best way of doing this so I could send it away for warranty repairs if need be? I was thinking about just updating my firmware using Kies to JPY, but surely it can't be that simple?
Thanks for the help!

Undo root
Factory reset to clear data
Use ODIN to flash stock firmware .
Or flash via Odin if you saved your original rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
jje

I didn't save my original ROM, but I got a JPY off samfirmware, should be the same? So just flash it as PDA and problem solved?
So I can't update through Kies anymore? I would prefer this so I can get the legitimate ROM by my carrier in case something stuffs up.
Thanks for your help!

I'm interested in the same thing. I am running Darky 7, but i have some FC. I made before a back-up of my stock JPY with clockwork. Can I apply that with clockwork? It will work?
Thanks

I didn't save my original ROM, but I got a JPY off samfirmware, should be the same? So just flash it as PDA and problem solved?
The same minus whatever your carrier adds so its not what comes with the phone .
You could use an older rom from samfirmwares and flash that then upgrade via kies and the recovery method to save your rom . You will need to spoof your setings its all in the post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835628&highlight=Kies+Registry+Patcher
jje

JJEgan said:
I didn't save my original ROM, but I got a JPY off samfirmware, should be the same? So just flash it as PDA and problem solved?
The same minus whatever your carrier adds so its not what comes with the phone .
You could use an older rom from samfirmwares and flash that then upgrade via kies and the recovery method to save your rom . You will need to spoof your setings its all in the post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835628&highlight=Kies+Registry+Patcher
jje
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Great idea, thanks for that

[Q] Resetting Back to Stock

Really sorry to post something which im sure has been done before but from what i've found here I can't properly interpret the details of what is to be done.
Basically I upgraded to Android 2.2 on my Galaxy S 19000 in December using a guide online (forget where sorry) but I want to revert back to my stock ROM as to enable Samsung Kies updating. Im in Australia. I have no mods or anything installed.
Sorry for being so vague, if I need to post certain details about my phone then i'l be happy to, just unsure of what you might need from me.
Also i've been trying to follow the guide here "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751639&page=19" but I can't follow it properly as i'm a bit thick.

The rom that will update is the one that came with the phone . Kies will look for the phones product code hardware ID etc then update .
If you do not have the original Kies cannot update .
You are left to try the stock rom from samsungfirmware.com but its stock Samsung not the one that came with the phone .
jje

That is incorrect. You do not need the rom that the phone was shipped with.
I've flashed from custom roms and back to stock numerous times. Choose one of the 2.1 stick roms from samfirmwares.com. Flash using odin using a 512 pit file and repartition ticked if using the 3 file flashing option. kies will then quite happily upgrade to the latest rom.
There are flashing instructions and all software and firmware on samfirmware.com
Sent from my GTI9000 using XDA App, Froyo 2.2.1, Darky's v9.3, Voodoo 5.4.1

But thats not the rom that came with the phone thats the stock Samsung rom BEFORE its handed to the network/phone provider .
AS I SAID
You are left to try the stock rom from samsungfirmware.com but its stock Samsung not the one that came with the phone .
jje

JJEgan said:
But thats not the rom that came with the phone thats the stock Samsung rom BEFORE its handed to the network/phone provider .
AS I SAID
You are left to try the stock rom from samsungfirmware.com but its stock Samsung not the one that came with the phone .
jje
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but does it matter?
you can say you made a kies-update. -ther's nothin illegal with it.

OP said he wanted to revert back .
My phones warranty is invalid as i do not have the firmware supplied by the provider of the phone and i suspect that is true for all branded models .
Its up to the warranty provider where the phone was bought to accept non standard firmware on the phone or not . Mine refused point blank and even showed the instructions from Samsung reference warranty claims with non standard firmware and the tech went as far as to say that his company who are the seller of the phone and responsible for warranty will not repair any phone that does not have their branded firmware on it .
Thats what i always presume when answering >> i want to go back to stock >.that the OP requires to return to the firmware that came with the phone to safeguard warranty .As they also have no backup of the original firmware .
jje

But by flashing 2.1 you are able to then flash to the most current stock firmware as released by your provider. That's the whole point
Sent from my GTI9000 using XDA App, Froyo 2.2.1, Darky's v9.3, Voodoo 5.4.1

mossy1963 said:
But by flashing 2.1 you are able to then flash to the most current stock firmware as released by your provider. That's the whole point
Sent from my GTI9000 using XDA App, Froyo 2.2.1, Darky's v9.3, Voodoo 5.4.1
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You are left to try the stock rom from samsungfirmware.com but its stock Samsung not the one that came with the phone .
+ yes if its accepted by Kies and for a number of users it has not and thats why Kies Registry patcher was used .
Stock samsung eclair rom failed to be accepted by Kies when i did exactly as you are suggesting . It required a spoofed Kies registry etc to get the update .
That is something i understand no longer works .
jje

Sorry but most of what you say just isn't true. If you flash to fw that predates your original fw and had the correct region code you can quite happily then use kies to upgrade to the current fw for your region. This is not detectable and cannot invalidate you warranty. So flash to ANY early fw, then let kies legally upgrade you - simple. Please don't peddle supposition as fact. And yes I've done this numerous times, and yes my phone had been back for an unrelated repair without warranty problems
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Lets get a few things straight:
If its about warranty, most shops/centers want the firmware selected by kies, I know examples of people with kies software via a registry hack that where denied because it wasn't the right region.
Kies is still considered to be safer than Odin, although I never had trouble with Odin.
Again if you want if it for warranty just update your firmware with kies, alternatively you can check the latest version for you country/operator and download and flash the right firmware from sammiefirmware.

@stitch
exactly

Just use SpoofFW and flash normaly with kies...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959806
The registry hack doesn't work with kies2.0.

[Q] What firmware use to upgrade from 2.2 to 2.2.1

Hello,
I've a Galaxy-S (was from T-Mobile Uk, but I unlocked it, debranded it and so on), it used to be 2.1, so back in november I updated to 2.2 using the Kies trick (changing the area code and so on). Now I'm finding myself *not-so-happy* about many bugs that are around (sometimes apps just crash... etc..). I'd like to go to 2.2.1 if this would help. But Kies doesn't even show an available update, so I was thinking of flashing one with Odin. Which one do you recommend?
My firmware is XXJPP. I don't remeber how to get other info/codes, so tell me how if you need them.
Also, I'm ready to wipe everything, but I'd avoid it. So tell me how.
Thanks.

JPY or WJS8 in UK with CPW csc .
Build your own in the rom kitchen .
http://romkitchen.org/sgs/?s=home
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817703
jje

dariodariodario said:
Hello,
I've a Galaxy-S (was from T-Mobile Uk, but I unlocked it, debranded it and so on), it used to be 2.1, so back in november I updated to 2.2 using the Kies trick (changing the area code and so on). Now I'm finding myself *not-so-happy* about many bugs that are around (sometimes apps just crash... etc..). I'd like to go to 2.2.1 if this would help. But Kies doesn't even show an available update, so I was thinking of flashing one with Odin. Which one do you recommend?
My firmware is XXJPP. I don't remeber how to get other info/codes, so tell me how if you need them.
Also, I'm ready to wipe everything, but I'd avoid it. So tell me how.
Thanks.
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I suggest you the JS8 ROM. Is the last froyo 2.2.1 european firmware. You can use the JS8 rome in the romkitchen to customize your fw as you want

Odin for flashing Kies for orugnal upgrade

Is JS8 an official upgrade from JPY(2.2.1)? For the UK aswell????
Or is it just a general European(including UK) update?
I'm on JPY right now. Upgraded officially from JPO(2.2) in the UK.
Do you think it is better to flash JS8 firmware?
(I have tried 2.3.3 JVK but I would rather wait for the official gingerbread update)

JPY is still the most current firmware for UK. I'm in Australia and have been using it since release. Docs version of course.
JS8 is Nordic I think.
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dariodariodario said:
Hello,
I've a Galaxy-S (was from T-Mobile Uk, but I unlocked it, debranded it and so on), it used to be 2.1, so back in november I updated to 2.2 using the Kies trick (changing the area code and so on). Now I'm finding myself *not-so-happy* about many bugs that are around (sometimes apps just crash... etc..). I'd like to go to 2.2.1 if this would help. But Kies doesn't even show an available update, so I was thinking of flashing one with Odin. Which one do you recommend?
My firmware is XXJPP. I don't remeber how to get other info/codes, so tell me how if you need them.
Also, I'm ready to wipe everything, but I'd avoid it. So tell me how.
Thanks.
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For stock go to samfirware.com, sign up, download Odin and jpy 2.2.1 (for UK). Install with Odin without repartition ticked and you should still have your apps/data.
Site has all the files and instructions you need. Just make sure you have download mode.
2.2.1 is miles better than 2.2. You'll wonder why you waited so long.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

The networks do not upgrade all the incremental updates JPY last one in general use and none have bothered to push out the later upgrades preferring to wait for the official release of 2.3 .
Either JPY or WJS8 will work well on UK phones .
jje

I tried both the kitchen and the: stock Rome. Even if the kitchen seems so clever and you don't need Odin in order to upgrade, I ended up with a 2.2.1 Tom that didn't have the market app, and other basic ones. Plus the media scanner was crashing every 10 seconds. Another one started up in Chinese and kept crashing various system apps. That's to say that it is not the best choice for stability. Instead I went to samfirmware got 2.3.2 and it is stable, clean and fast. Using Odin is easy in the end so I recommend this if you want a fully functional phone. And gingerbread is so faaaast

That's to say that it is not the best choice for stability.
You are doing something wrong then as its the safest and most problem free method .
jje

I have 3uk sgs and immediately went for odin for all my flash updates.
First thing is to check u have three button combo working. Just pull the battery to get out of that mode.
I'd go straight to gingerbread JPK. And with the few, clockworkmod zips you can add battery percentage and a few other nice things that aren't included.
I haven't looked back as jpk is such a great rom - memory management is sorted so no need for autokillet or taskmanagers.
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[Q][HELP] Galaxy s GT-I9000 Issues with Upgrading firmware. please help

Ok so i would like to update my galaxy to 2.3 gingerbread official using keis.
I live in Australia and based on what i have read the update should be out on my model of galaxy. When i plug my phone into keis it is saying i have the latest firmware. I have done some reading up on this and if i am correct some of the hacks and things i have done to my phone could cause it not to be able to update and i would like to know if this is true and how i can fix this.
Things i have done:
- I am currently running 2.2 froyo
- I have voodoo lagfix and soundfix installed.
- I used sgs tools from market to use the optus apps which came with my phone that where unusable since i was with virgin.
- I applied a 3 button fix i found as well so i could update voodoo easier. But in the end i just used Odin.
One thing i read was that i have to restore the system apps to update it. which i have done with all accept one but the .apk backup for it is not working so i cannot. Will i have to use Odin and revert back to the original firmware and start again? Or is there something i can do from here?

Short answer- You can't.
Gingerbread isn't out officially anywhere at present (there was a brief period where it was out on Kies for Scandinavia- hence all the semi-official "leaked" roms).
On past performance we're likely to be waiting a fair while here in Oz- once Official GB Roms come out from Samsung you then have to wait for all the local carriers to add their garbage to it (and - according to them- "test" it) before it gets released on kies. I'd bite the bullet and just grab a nice rom from here.
Remember if you do decide to wait for the official update, you will have to downgrade to stock for kies to recognise your right to an upgrade.

+ 120 to that NO upgrade to 2.3.3 YET .
All upgrades are unofficial .When Kies has your upgrade it upgrades
Then before update undo lagfix .
Or to be really safe reinstall your original saved rom the one you saved before you started messing with the phone .
jje

I think using odin to flash a stock rom back before updating by kies would be safe way

myfifth said:
I think using odin to flash a stock rom back before updating by kies would be safe way
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Depends Kies does not recognize stock rom as product code etc dont match = no update through Kies . Stock is not network supplied firmware as original .
jje

JJEgan said:
Or to be really safe reinstall your original saved rom the one you saved before you started messing with the phone .
jje
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Lets just say I'm a total wanker and I didn't save my original rom. Am i stuck using custom roms from now?

Zeruf said:
Lets just say I'm a total wanker and I didn't save my original rom. Am i stuck using custom roms from now?
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pretty much, unless some one has official firmware