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AT&T Wont let me Return my Tilt!!!

I purchased the phone about a month ago, from the day I purchased it the camera did not operate correctly. I took my device to the store in an attempt to get it replaced with a new one. Unfortunately for me my camera just happened to work that day which was also the last day of the 30 day warranty. The guy pretty much said that he couldnt help me because my device worked, but then he gave me this number saying that if there is any further problems they will take care of it. So I call the ATT warranty department the next day (my camera broke again) and they said that they were sending me a REFURBISHED phone. I talked with them for 2 hours and they pretty much sait there is nothing they can do.
So I get this refurbished phone and right out of the box it looks of poor quality, I later find out that no matter what I do, the device will not charge. So I send in for another refurb which is of even worse condition and this one wont sync to my PC.
Do any of you guys have any ideas that could help I called the warranty department and coustomer care TWICE, asked to speak to both supervisors, threatened to change my entire family's service and they dont reply with anything except that the phone can not be replaced with a new phone. What do you think I should do?

dude that sucks!
ive never had a problem gettin a swap out.. and i bricked my first tilt..
u need to speak to managers and managers only, throw a fit make a scene in the store they'll work with u!

Learn from your mistake so you don't repeat it in the future. If you have an issue with a phone within the 30 day period, make sure it's fully taken care of within that time frame. Unfortunately you took some clerk's word for what would happen instead of double checking yourself.
AT&T most likely isn't going to do anything more from you. They have pretty good customer service and retention, but it is within their rights to give you a refurbished phone.
I also find it hard to believe that they shipped you two refurbished phones that right out of the box appeared to be of "poor quality." If the phone's had a shoddy appearance they wouldn't have been sent back out.
If your next replacement (refurb) is not functional, then tell them that it is getting ridiculous that you have had 3 replacments and they were all bad (again, I find that dubious). If the phone's are malfunctioning to any extent that you can't make calls (like a phone won't recharge) then they should be crediting your account on a daily basis when you can't use the phone.
Lastly, you can threaten to go to your credit card issuer (assuming you bought it with one) or to the BBB. Again, these are mostly threats, and I don't suggest you follow through unless you are truly getting bad refurbs 3 times in a row. Don't just take a negative attitude and look for problems becuase it isn't a new phone...you aren't likely to get one.
However, you could realistically cancel your service, and then refuse to pay any cancellation fees because they weren't honoring their end of the deal by providing you with functioning equipment. Even though you might have a leg to stand on....it will still probably get sent to collections and mar your credit.

Of the refurbs I got, these were in the condition I stated. When I called ATT they said something along the lines of 'every once in awhile a bad one slips through, but its pretty rare.'

I don't doubt a bad one slips through.... but two in a row....
What I am saying is third time is a charm...you can't keep getting bad ones
Also, I know how it can be mentally (as I would feel the same way) that a refurb just isn't as good and you would rather have a new one even if you saw a refurb pass every single test.
Try for #3 and if you are still out of luck...go with the other poster's suggestion and make a scene in the store

This reminds me of when i had the 8525 hermes. I was sent about 3 phones from them that were of bad quality. Bluetooth problems and yellowish tint screen.. The unwritten rule is that after 3 phones youre sopost to get a upgrade of the latest comperable model. Right now the tilt is the latest pocket pc but at the time, the tilt replaced the 8525 and thats how i recieved my tilt..
Moral is.... wait til the next ppc comes out and make a scene.. but also bring that point up to warranty replacement.

bengalih said:
I don't doubt a bad one slips through.... but two in a row....
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Happened to me last week, two bad ones, and a third one that was good. It's possible, and somewhat probable for a scenario like that to occur. It's not like saying he put a million dollars on "00" at the roulette table and won

I'm on my fourth tilt in 6 months. The first one got fried by an ebay charger (I think) my daughter threw the next one and messed up the display (can't believe they haven't charged me for that one... yet) The third did't sync with my PC like one of yours and the forth one's been great. All of the replacments have been refirbs but have looked as good as new with the one being bad out of the box.
I agree with bengalih just get another one if it's bad you'll know right away if not it should be perfectly fine.

mtbjoe said:
I'm on my fourth tilt in 6 months. The first one got fried by an ebay charger (I think) my daughter threw the next one and messed up the display (can't believe they haven't charged me for that one... yet) The third did't sync with my PC like one of yours and the forth one's been great. All of the replacments have been refirbs but have looked as good as new with the one being bad out of the box.
I agree with bengalih just get another one if it's bad you'll know right away if not it should be perfectly fine.
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well now we know why AT&T sometimes has such a sweet deal on refurb tilts LOL

Ok you said the second phone couldnt sync to pc. If you search through this forum I guarantee there is a fix for that.

Switch providers and tell them that you are making the switch because of the level of service (with details) that you have to date.

deathpulse said:
Switch providers and tell them that you are making the switch because of the level of service (with details) that you have to date.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow Sorry I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the insinuation that they would actually care. The sad fact is T-Mobile Is worse in service availability. And Sprint? I wouldn't wish that on my enemy.
Here is a link: http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=4607

No BS this will work !!
I got a brand new custom built HP laptop ( to replace my custom built 2yr old laptop w/ 3yr accidental damage protection) because I followed the same advice I am going to give you. Similar situation with my laptop...sent it back twice, never fixed it right, 14 phone calls, over 450 minutes with customer support and such..won't bore ya with the details
Here's what I did...
Got all my phone records to them together
Had all the invoices etc together
Called and told them I had been "advised" that I had to give them one more chance to make it "right" ! Implying I had legal advise....Then I told them I was going to take them to small claims court..Period !
YES I was going to take them to court cause statistically they always settle!
If not I had my records and was in the right !!! Like you seem to be
Be stern, firm and assertive, not angry or yelling. I basically told them what will happen if they did not make it right...they folded like a cheap lawn chair and I got a brand new custom built $2000 laptop plus a full 3yr accidental damage warranty!
I still get a rush thinking about it !!!

I understand what you mean, but I am completely unprepared to take them to court over such a minor issue. Im going to expend all of my other options first, I still have to go back to the store and argue there that it is there fault because they did not support there 30-day return policy in the first place. The man let me walk out of the store with a broken phone. I should have handeled it then but I didnt realize I would be dialing in and getting more refurbs.
Also, my third refurb arrived today, the device functions completely as intended. The problem now is that the keyboard on this new device does not seem very responsive, or at least, not nearly as responsive as the keyboard on my first device (which I still have). I am upset with this as my other Tilt is in premium condition, not a single scratch. I think I am going to return this one as well.

not good
hey I work for the company and
1. they kinda HAVE to exchange your phone in store if you got it over the phone, over att.com or at a corporate store. if you are within 30 days the rep should do the exchange, the rep u got was an A*&*LE. some act like the store stock and shipping cost come from their pocket.
2. if you get an idiot customer svc rep just hangup and call back , sometime u have to bend the truth. say u have a phone that drops calls ( they are afraid of this) and u tried ur friend's SIM card and still does not work correctly.
3. sorry you did not come to my store.(NY)
4. almost impossible to get a new phone through warranty or insurance.
5. if ya'll have any Q's bout stuff PM me.
out...

This is exactly why sometimes the "best deal" is not a good deal...
I only buy my phones from the bigger retailers, Best Buy & the company directly....
Mom & Pop shops, and online retailers:
- Cheaper up front, can usually get you the best deal if you read the fine print and agree
- Usually require a 2nd contract stating you will not change you plan (or features) within 6 months to 1 year or they charge you a penalty (usually $200 for removing OR changing the kind of data service from a phone like the tilt-- ex.: change from Unlimited data $30/month to Unlimited data & Text for $50/month, you broke the contract, they will charge you $200)
- Do not have to accept returns. Returns are done by companies as a 'favor' -- they are not required by US law (for most stores/products, some exceptions)
Big retailers or the Service Provider directly:
- Always have a return policy
- Almost never require a 2nd contract agreeing to keep features
- Usually $25 more for basic phones, up to $100 more for smartphones (they do not require Data, which most M&P/Internet sites give you $75-$100 off for getting and keeping for 6 months)
Other nice advantage of Big Retailers: If customer service at one place gives you no help and you're within reason to return it... go a few miles to another location and try again.... (again, if you're trying to return something 45 days later, you'll probably get no help where ever you go)

This wasnt a 'Mom and Pop' Shop, it was an official retailer. I was going to get the phone at a smaller AT&T but they said I would have to go to an official store that carried there high-end products. When I bought the phone the person I bought it from, I believe I have his buisiness card, but I will check later, allowed me to open the box in the store. He then told me if I wasn't satisfied I had 30 days for a return or replacement. I came back, 29 days later and they said that I had to call there warranty department because the device was not broken, and there fore he could not replace it. Essentially, they lied to me.

If it's not an AT&T corporate store, it's a Mom & Pop shop...
If they say "Authorized Retailer" they are not directly AT&T, they are reselling AT&T services and do not have to follow AT&T Corporate return policies...
Most of these locations are owned by individuals, or groups of individuals, as a business venture...
Keep in mind, anywhere from 50 to 85% of Wireless stores are NOT corporately owned by their service provider, and all of them (except T-Mobile) are allowed to put giant signs on the front of the building saying "AT&T" "Verizon" or "Sprint"... Sprint requires "Authorized Dealer" added to the logo, T-Mobile requires you to name your store something, and if you use T-Mobile logo it can be no more then 25% of the total sign space. AT&T I don't know the exact policy on their signage, but should require "Authorized Reseller" in the sign...
Of course, people can ignore these requirements, One of my old bosses did.. Hence why he's an old boss..

Quick Tip:
If they don't offer the IPhone they are not corporately owned...
At least in the DC metro area, every corporately owned AT&T store has a live active IPhone on display for customers to try

fizzie said:
I got a brand new custom built HP laptop ( to replace my custom built 2yr old laptop w/ 3yr accidental damage protection) because I followed the same advice I am going to give you. Similar situation with my laptop...sent it back twice, never fixed it right, 14 phone calls, over 450 minutes with customer support and such..won't bore ya with the details
Here's what I did...
Got all my phone records to them together
Had all the invoices etc together
Called and told them I had been "advised" that I had to give them one more chance to make it "right" ! Implying I had legal advise....Then I told them I was going to take them to small claims court..Period !
YES I was going to take them to court cause statistically they always settle!
If not I had my records and was in the right !!! Like you seem to be
Be stern, firm and assertive, not angry or yelling. I basically told them what will happen if they did not make it right...they folded like a cheap lawn chair and I got a brand new custom built $2000 laptop plus a full 3yr accidental damage warranty!
I still get a rush thinking about it !!!
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I worked for Acer Computers and they *****ed out with customers every single time something like this happened. This is sound advise

[Q] Returns through Radio Shack

I recently purchased my Captivate through Radio Shack using my upgrade an re-upped for another 2 years. Like a lot of folks I too am having problems with random shut offs and poor GPS performance so I'm contemplating bringing it back. I can't live with a phone that shuts off randomly. I'm not sure I want to get another Captivate. Not because it's not an awesome phone because it is, but more to do with the fact that it doesn't appear like there's any solutions to these problems in the near future.
My question is if I return it what are my options for a replacement from Radio Shack? Another Captivate (obviously but how will it perform?) the Aria which my wife has but is too small for my taste, the Backflip (no way) or ??? RS doesn't carry the Xperia or iphones. If I flat out return it for my money back and just stick with my Nexus what is the deal with my contract? Null and void or am I stuck? Can I return it to a regular ATT store and get another phone there? I went with RS because the Captivate was $50 less than through ATT.

Honestly I think if you get an exchange you have a very good chance of getting one that will work right. The GPS issue will get resolved but in the meantime its really not as big of a deal as everyone frets over.
You cannot take the phone to ATT for a different one because they will know that you didnt buy it through them and therefore wont take it back. The other phones you mentioned that RS had are garbage compared to the Captivate.

bsinc1962 said:
I recently purchased my Captivate through Radio Shack using my upgrade an re-upped for another 2 years. Like a lot of folks I too am having problems with random shut offs and poor GPS performance so I'm contemplating bringing it back. I can't live with a phone that shuts off randomly. I'm not sure I want to get another Captivate. Not because it's not an awesome phone because it is, but more to do with the fact that it doesn't appear like there's any solutions to these problems in the near future.
My question is if I return it what are my options for a replacement from Radio Shack? Another Captivate (obviously but how will it perform?) the Aria which my wife has but is too small for my taste, the Backflip (no way) or ??? RS doesn't carry the Xperia or iphones. If I flat out return it for my money back and just stick with my Nexus what is the deal with my contract? Null and void or am I stuck? Can I return it to a regular ATT store and get another phone there? I went with RS because the Captivate was $50 less than through ATT.
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AT&T has no other phones that can even compare to the captivate (besides the xperia or iphone like you said). Radioshack carries both of them via direct2u (ask an associate about it) which just means they ship you a brand new phone directly to your house for free so if you really don't want the captivate again you can pick one of those instead.
you have 30 days from the date you got your captivate to back out of the upgrade and un-extend your contract. After the first 30 you are stuck with the renew of your 2 year contract. you cannot return the captivate anywhere else besides radioshack (can be any radioshack).
Options:
*exchange it for another captivate (30 days to exchange for any other at&t phone and 90 days exchange for the same phone if defective)
*return it and have the upgrade reversed and get an xperia or iphone (both suck in my opinion, iphone 4 has lots of problems and xperia x10 only has android 1.6 with no update in sight)
*return it and have the upgrade reversed and go back to your nexus one
I work for radioshack so this are your actual options :/...good luck with your decision

Thanks for the input, I appreciate that you took the time to respond.

[Q] Advice on the Captivate....refurbished ?

Thinking of buying a "refurbished" at&t captivate. does anybody have any advice to if the device is worth buying if it is refurbished, if any of you guys have bought it that way..and also is it really worth it in att network or should I be warned and wait till MARCHH! to switch over to another carrier ?
currently have a iphone 3g but i really want to switch over to android

Mine is a insurance replacement so it is refurbed, have had other refurbed phones and haven't had any problemss out of either. I love the phone itself. Go to any sub forum and you can tell the phone has gps issues, some worse then others. This is my 3rd (first couldn't go into recovery, and second was lost), and gps is worse then all the previous ones. Even with the problems, I still wouldn't give this phone up. Probably because I love the hardware and its my first android device and apple wasn't a choice for me. As for the network I hadn't any problems with att since 2004. I'm sure that depends on you location tho.
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Two weeks ago I bought the HTC Aria with rebate for $29. Then another employee wrote saying they wanted to upgrade their phone, and wanted the Captivate. I looked online and saw that it was $299. A few days go by and he agrees to the price, and when I go to order it, lo and behold ATT has refurb for $50 each! I bought two, one for him and one for me . I like the aria and it is now my backup, but I love the Captivate and for $50, it's hard to go wrong.
tl;dr, buy it.

Did the refurb unit have any signs of use or scratches or anything? I might get one soon too.

Go for it..it's a great phone. Just make sure you can check it out in person first,or can return it if broken.
Mac

I got a refurb.
And it's perfect. Looks brand new. And no problems

I have a refurb......... no major issues. One thing to look for though.......... I got my first one 4 days ago, worked fine, but after being on for a little bit the battery went completely dead after being on standby for 30 min. yeah, something was wrong with the battery, on top of that it would randomly exit me out of screens.
turned out they sent me one that had NOT been fixed yet, their boo boo. They sent me out a new one and I got it today. This one looked brand new, all the stickers from samsung still on it and everything. Let it charge and turned it on....... no more issues.
It lags a little and the battery life REALLY sux, but those are issues with brand new ones also. I turned on my task killer and put the security level to low so that I could kill everything but non essential apps. Now the battery life seems MUCH better. It seems like this phone takes a long time to charge as well though. I think i wll just allow the battery to fully drain then plug it in, see if that will work, maber get rid of any potential battery memory.

Thanks for the help, appreciate it....I ordered it already and should get it in 2-5 business days so i will post back on my thoughts!
cant wait to start using the android OS!!!!

I am on a refurb now. I love this thing. No [hardware] issues at all.
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i have a refubished phone and its better than the new one I had

I got a new Samsung Captivate and it keeps rebooting on me at random and the keys (especially back key) are really bad. They dont recognzie my touch half the time unless I press really hard on them.
My question is....if I get a replacment how will I be able to tell if its a refurb or not?
Are the refubs typically better since they have had more extensive testing?

Anybody have any thoughts on this?

with anything there are defect but these phones are built like a rock and if you think about it, if there is a x probability that a device has a defect the probability that it has 2 is x^2(in theory, obviously the nature of the defect factors in) so if the phone had a defect that was fixed there is a pretty slim chance that it will be defective after it is repaired.
i wouldn't worry about a refurbished phone, there may be cosmetic damage ect. but i would recommend this phone to anyone on build quality alone. wear and tear related problems should be minimal. id say go for it.

I had 3 refurb fuzes and 2 razr9s. Only real problem you have to worry about is physical defects. Hinges mostly. If there is a software or hardware problem you can send it back.
Edit: you can also get insurance on an unused refurb through at&t
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Any one who has replaced a phone using insurance or warranty thru ATT is most likely using a refurbed phone. I have replaced every phone i have ever had in 10 years with ATT due to my being really hard on phones at work and all the replacements have been refurbed. I personally have never had an issue with a refurb, they all lokked and performe like new. I actually just got my cappy a few weeks ago and ordered the refurb cause i knew i would end up with one anyway.( and got lucky in doing so and got a batch 1007 phone so my 3button download mode doesnt get wiped.)
Works Perfecly and only set me back $50

I messed up my first captivate. Was able to return it through warranty and got a refurbished unit. I have been using it for 3 months with no issues. Of coarse there is no guarantee
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Returning my Nexus 7 to Google Deutschland

Hi all,
I just wanted to share my experience with Google Play in Germany. I am a native of Australia, but I have been living in Germany for about three years. As such, my German language skills are pretty good, but I often find it hard to speak over the phone. I noticed that my Nexus 7 has left side screen lift a week ago; I have a C8O, which is otherwise perfect, but I figured I should be completely happy with the device and not just partially happy. I also wanted to avoid any possible problems in the future. Additionally, the capacitors in my charger sound like they are going to pop at any second, so that was also of concern.
Anyway, I called their customer support, and the person I dealt with (Annette) was fantastic. She was patient with me, and when I described the problems, she straight away offered an exchange for a new device. So, I will order a new device today, and ship the problematic tablet back after I receive the new one. Which means I am not tablet-less; another surprise. Lets see how the return process goes, but so far, so good. Fingers crossed I receive a C9O with no manufacturing defects and a charger which doesn't sound like its about to explode!
Cheers,
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That is great.
I live near Germany and I got my Nexus 7 with 1 bad pixel, considering for RMA...

once they receive the original device back. it will take you about two months on average to get your money back. But this is only if you stay on them about it.. Its all over the net about this trouble.. My bank has filed a Dispute with them for me and about 10 or there people who live in the area of my city for this exact issue.. you are very likely to get another device as bad or worse then the one your sending back...
So if you do not see your money in two weeks file fraud with your back. GOOGLE Needs to step up and fix this issue..

erica_renee said:
once they receive the original device back. it will take you about two months on average to get your money back. But this is only if you stay on them about it.. Its all over the net about this trouble.. My bank has filed a Dispute with them for me and about 10 or there people who live in the area of my city for this exact issue.. you are very likely to get another device as bad or worse then the one your sending back...
So if you do not see your money in two weeks file fraud with your back. GOOGLE Needs to step up and fix this issue..
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I've seen so much of this about, what a terrible method of a returns process, charging you for another device because the device you bought is broke?
What if it was a kid who'd saved all his pocket money to get the device, only for it to be broke, do they expect that kid to spend night and day doing paper rounds so he can buy a second, in order to return the first?
Sounds to me like this is their plan, and hope that alot of the customers do not complain and therefor they have sold that person two devices.
Very bad move of Google and totally destroying for their reputation in my opinion.

erica_renee said:
once they receive the original device back. it will take you about two months on average to get your money back. But this is only if you stay on them about it.. Its all over the net about this trouble.. My bank has filed a Dispute with them for me and about 10 or there people who live in the area of my city for this exact issue.. you are very likely to get another device as bad or worse then the one your sending back...
So if you do not see your money in two weeks file fraud with your back. GOOGLE Needs to step up and fix this issue..
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I am hoping that this won't be the case - They have not yet informed me that I will need to purchase a second device in order the RMA the first I purchased. Until they tell me that, I will wait and see. Regardless, German banks are, in my experience, very particular about fraud; I have contacted my bank previously about a charge which I didn't recognise and it was reversed the same day. I will see what happens, but thanks for the heads up

google will send you a email with a link in it. This link is to start the replacement process. What it does is charge your card for a second device. They send it to you. When you receive it you send them the old device.. Then you have to wait . after 14 days you call them to get the charge taken off your card. then it takes them about 3 weeks to get back to you. then a week or so later if you keep calling it will show up in google wallet that its been refunded.. (This is where im at in the process) . Im told by google they have given me my money back and to call my bank. My bank says THEY HAVE NOT and to file fraud charges. This cost 65.00 per device so i have waited and been putting pressure on google.. I will file the charges monday. I Asked my lawyer friend and he says that he might be able to MAKE Google come to Kentucky for a small claims case for the charges .
I Would if you can try to contact asus and see if they can let you send it to them to be REPAIRED.. atleast you know someone will be looking at it . If you go thru all of the above and end up with another bad device . Asus thou i think there support is lousy here in the us.. Are for better then Google..
Just my opinion sorry if i took this thread in the wrong direction.. But its something that many are having issues with and you have the right to know. Some people have had good experience in the exchange process. But it seems only a few .
Good Luck ..

UPDATE:
Okay, so step two in the RMA process has finally been completed. After seemingly forgetting the fact that I called the week before last to organise an RMA, I called Google again on Monday. The guy I dealt with was a bit less understanding of my language difficulties over the phone, but we got there in the end. I got the email with the cart link, and clicked this and 'paid' on Wednesday morning (even though they don't charge your card, it seems that they simply check that your card can cover the extra charge if need be). I actually used a debit and not a credit card, and the balance hasn't been touched at this point.
My new device just arrived! It seems they express-posted it to me, which is generous of them. Its another C8O, same as my 'old' tablet, and thus far doesn't have obvious left-side screen lift - But I will charge it up fully tonight, and see whether it occurs under heat. Meanwhile, I will unroot and lock the bootloader again on the old unit, just in case...
Fingers crossed for a lift-free Nexus 7 - but with all the other problems around, I am not holding my breath!

lanyao1920 said:
That is great.
I live near Germany and I got my Nexus 7 with 1 bad pixel, considering for RMA...
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one bad pixel most likely doesn't turn your device into a faulty one. i am not sure how they deal with that problem, however my experience on other devices were, that they will replace the device only if it had like 7+ dead pixels.
just throwing in my 2 cents.
Wilks3y said:
I've seen so much of this about, what a terrible method of a returns process, charging you for another device because the device you bought is broke?
What if it was a kid who'd saved all his pocket money to get the device, only for it to be broke, do they expect that kid to spend night and day doing paper rounds so he can buy a second, in order to return the first?
Sounds to me like this is their plan, and hope that alot of the customers do not complain and therefor they have sold that person two devices.
Very bad move of Google and totally destroying for their reputation in my opinion.
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In the end they will advertise with the most sold tablet just cause everyone had to buy another one for the exchange process on RMA
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UPDATE:
Okay, so step two in the RMA process has finally been completed. After seemingly forgetting the fact that I called the week before last to organise an RMA, I called Google again on Monday. The guy I dealt with was a bit less understanding of my language difficulties over the phone, but we got there in the end. I got the email with the cart link, and clicked this and 'paid' on Wednesday morning (even though they don't charge your card, it seems that they simply check that your card can cover the extra charge if need be). I actually used a debit and not a credit card, and the balance hasn't been touched at this point.
My new device just arrived! It seems they express-posted it to me, which is generous of them. Its another C8O, same as my 'old' tablet, and thus far doesn't have obvious left-side screen lift - But I will charge it up fully tonight, and see whether it occurs under heat. Meanwhile, I will unroot and lock the bootloader again on the old unit, just in case...
Fingers crossed for a lift-free Nexus 7 - but with all the other problems around, I am not holding my breath!
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Hope everything is fine.
I noticed my N7 had a faulty speaker yesterday and I brought it back to my retailer ( about 21 days passed after purchase ). I had my fingers crossed to get an immediate replacement there. But well they decided to send it to ASUS. So i am stuck with that. Guess it will take a few days longer that way. As the speaker problem is quite common, i am expecting a replacement. However now i am tablet free for the next 2 weeks i guess. Don't want to buy a new one just to cancel the deal within 14 days. Who knows, instead of returning the money, they'll just give me a gift card.
If anyone is interested, I'll update.

So - Long awaited update.
After two replacements with the same problem, they agreed to refund me once I had sent the tablets in and they were checked to ensure that they were not damaged (Of which they definitely weren't). I flashed both back to stock and relocked the bootloaders before I sent them in - They were as-new (aside from the sh*tty manufacturing problems).
The two replacement tablets were sent in on 30.10.2012. They confirmed that the tablets were received in The Netherlands on 31.10 via overnight express. I am still waiting for my refund, even though I was told it would take 'a maximum of 14 days once the tablets are received'. Its now been 42 days. The rep I have been dealing with tells me constantly that she has done all she can for me, and that she is waiting to hear back from another department. When I suggested that perhaps she should escalate the situation to a manager, she supplied me with a physical address where I could 'send my concerns'.
For a company laying claim to being the biggest internet company in the world, their customer service is nothing short of sh*t. I've experienced better customer service from Vodafone in the past - and that's saying something.
I have learned my lesson here - if you must buy Nexus products, buy them from a bricks and mortar store - NEVER BUY THEM DIRECT FROM GOOGLE.

Antenna issue and HORRIBLE customer service w/ Verizon

I have had the LG G2 for a year now and I am experiencing issues with coverage. I am dropping calls or just not receiving them at all lately. I had verizon open a case about this last week which they promptly forgot to handle. Today I called back and asked for the results of the claim and was told that Verizons tech believed the issue was my phone, not the network.
I was then told I needed to have my phone replaced and the replacement would be out of warranty. Essentially..If it happens again, it's solely my problem. Being that this was a horrible offer I declined and stated I would want at least 6 months worth of warranty to cover the device for THIS issue alone. I was told a supervisor would call me and later she did. She refused a 6 month guarantee (on this issue alone) and asked me if I would be interested in resolving my issue by joining their edge program.
YEP! They suggested I essentially pay full retail for a phone to ensure this did not happen again. "Try another phone! It's an issue with the G2!", they said.
I don't want to be long winded, so here is some of the chat I had today. This is the 4th person I spoke to.
Cody: Thus far my option have been - Receive another LG G2 and hope it does not have the same issue (which would be fine if you all would allow me a warranty insuring a replacement if it did) or pay full retail for another device through Edge. Those are not great options.
Eliza: Thank you for that information! Please allow me a moment to access your account.
Eliza: I have an option for you, but it will require you to pay full price. Are you familiar with our device payment plan?
Cody: I'm being offered to pay full price to replace a device that Verizon acknowledges is faulty...
Eliza: This is similar to our Edge program, in that you will make the payments over a set amount of months. The Device Payment Plan allows those payments to be made over 12 months. Would that interest you?
Cody: I am not paying full price to correct an issue that Verizon has determined is not my fault.
Eliza: I understand. The only other option in this case would be the Certified Like New Replacement. I am sorry I don't have a more suitable option for you at this time.
Cody: Can you offer me a guarantee that the device will be replaced again if I have this same issue?
Eliza: No, I cannot. I can however assure you that this issue is not common with your device.
Cody: You're telling me "Hey, we understand that this isn't your fault, but you are still somehow fully responsible for the solution. You may have a phone that is possibly going to do the same thing..OR you can pay full retail for one"
Eliza: I apologize that we were unable to find a solution for you today. I will document your account with what we have discussed and gone over. Can I answer any other questions for you today?
Anyone else dealt with anything like this? I have loved this phone, but this is ridiculous. I cannot make or receive calls about 20% of the time & my G/F will be right next to me having no issues with her phone (iPhone, Verizon).

This is in the wrong section. I apologize.

That's their normal policy, one year from original purchase, it's not extended if you have it replaced.

mjones73 said:
That's their normal policy, one year from original purchase, it's not extended if you have it replaced.
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I understand that, but I believe when a supervisor of the company blatantly says the LG G2 has these issues widespread that steps should be taken to ensure a customer isn't stuck with a bad device.

That is their policy, but the G2 just came out for verizon in November. So it not being covered is BS. Plain and simple. The only way they wont cover it is if your phone was purchased on a 2 year agreement on a different account than yours, or if the phone is broken (think cracked screen). If it was on another line on your account make sure to tell customer service this.
BTW, if you do call *611 don't just hit 000000 to get through to someone you will wait longer. When the prompt says "Main Menu" press 3 for tech support Say your issue. Tell the Customer service rep whats going on and they'll bump you to tier 2 support.
Kyle.
Verizon Indirect Agent
3 years.

kylelipp said:
That is their policy, but the G2 just came out for verizon in November. So it not being covered is BS. Plain and simple. The only way they wont cover it is if your phone was purchased on a 2 year agreement on a different account than yours, or if the phone is broken (think cracked screen). If it was on another line on your account make sure to tell customer service this.
BTW, if you do call *611 don't just hit 000000 to get through to someone you will wait longer. When the prompt says "Main Menu" press 3 for tech support Say your issue. Tell the Customer service rep whats going on and they'll bump you to tier 2 support.
Kyle.
Verizon Indirect Agent
3 years.
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I said the exact same thing about it being covered and I purchased the phone new and it has no issues physically. I'm dealing with tier 2 now. I appreciate your reply!

I've been trying for years to get coverage upgraded(along with others) in a fringe(but "wealthy" area surrounded by water on all but one side[coverage excellent 2 blocks away] ). Next they will tell you to purchase a fem cell and saying they are "fixing" the tower. GOOD LUCK!
Sounds like an issue with the phone though. If you are still in 1 year warranty, contact LG for new. Otherwise deal with refurb and good luck with that extension.

Omg the same thing has happened too me.. This is my 5th LG g2 the other ones all had the same problem were the screen had dead spots. After talking to a million people. Last time I finally went to a Verizon store and the lady showed me a tablet that said this is a known issue. After I was told they never heard of this happening before at ALL, EVER! So before I left I asked the lady if this happens AGAIN with this handset will they give me a different phone or credit me and upgrade? Because if they posted in this phones website on their store " currently this phone has a manufacturer defect with it's software and you may have to wait for a software upgrade for your phone to work correctly" I WOULDNT of BOUGHT THIS PIECE OF SH!#!! And she said "no sir your going to just have to wait for them too push a software upgrade if you don't want to pay for a new phone or use another upgrade" I am so mad about this I almost broke the phone in half and was going to cancel my account and tell them they will never see a dollar towards the disconnect fees. **** heads! I can't believe Verizon.. It's just crazy they won't work with me on this. I wouldn't of got this phone if I did a little research and seen these issues everyone is having. I was gonna get an m8, motox or s4/5... Should have on another carrier.

Is this a recent development? Or has it happened since you've had the phone?
I say this for a specific reason. I had issue retaining a reliable 4G data lock after I had installed the 24A OTA update. I figured it was the custom ROM I had installed and so posted in that thread. Several people replied saying they had similar issues and replaced their SIM card and the problems went away.
So I followed their suggestion. It fixed the problem immediately. The Verizon rep at the store who replaced my SIM told me something very interesting. Apparently, the OTA updater has a tendency to fry SIM cards, and its not limited to LG, or even Android, phones. Apparently when the latest iOS update was released, a large percentage of devices has their SIM cards fried to various degrees. He even implied that some people couldn't get any service, phone or data, until they had their SIM cards replaced.
If you think the issue started near the time of an OTA update, or even if it didn't, it might be worth going to down to a Verizon store (not one of those Authorized Retailer hacks) and request that you are having issues and want to try swapping your SIM card to see if it fixes the problem. They should be open to this.
Now, not only does the SIM card contain the information necessary to determine which cell towers to connect to, it also contains all the encryption keys necessary to encrypt all communications from the phone to the cell towers. But, it does not pass the keys to the phone. All the data is passed through the chip on the SIM card, and that chip does the encryption. The encrypted data is then passed back to the phone for radio transmission to the towers.
So, if the SIM card got fried somehow, it could completely butcher all communications. Its by no ways a guaranteed fix, but its worth a try. It doesn't cost anything but some time (which is always a frustrating cost).

I had some major issues over all their s3 refurbs they sent me. I filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and bam I got a call from a manager who hooked me up with a different phone....which then had a bad speaker on arrival. But the second DNA I received worked flawlessly. Lol.
Just need to remember to be patient and cooperative with them. Don't yell or anything because if your nice then they do more to help.
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You should look into adding the 2 bucks a month extended warranty to your line if you can. You'll always have manufacturer defect protection for any phone you put on the line (at least that's how it is for me) regardless of how old it is or where you got it from. Verizon's policy is (as far as I know) to replace the phone, but the certified like new phone they replace your phone with only comes with one month of warranty (or less).
If you don't agree with verizon's policy regarding warranty replacements you could contact LG and they will have you ship your phone to them, they will attempt to fix it, and if they can't they will send you a new phone, but I believe that they will give you a new 1 year warranty, unlike Verizon. That will prevent you from being SOL if the issue occurs again, but you'll be phone less for a week or so.
I'm not 100% about all of that, but as far as I know its all correct.