[Q] nandriud backup: data or all - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

when i go into recovery mode, and select backup / restore, should i be selecting backup "data" or backup "all"? what is the difference?

I believe backup data will just backup your user apps and basic data on sd. Backup all baghdad up system apps and data as well. Significance is that you would not want to restore all if you were not running the same rom

mcord11758 said:
I believe backup data will just backup your user apps and basic data on sd. Backup all baghdad up system apps and data as well. Significance is that you would not want to restore all if you were not running the same rom
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So if i would like to restore my phone to the state it is in now, would i be doing a backup "Data" or backup "all"?
when i go into recovery -->backup/restore --> backup, it says backup and restore data is recommended, and that backup and restore all was "use at own risk" or something along that line.

If you are looking to restore your current state on rom "x" down the line, our if you are playing with themes and something goes wrong you would restore all. To be honest I am not sure why you would ever restore just data, that is why I use titanium backup.
You would not want to restore a backup from rom x onto rom y
I only do nandroid backups if I am planning on playing with themes

mcord11758 said:
If you are looking to restore your current state on rom "x" down the line, our if you are playing with themes and something goes wrong you would restore all. To be honest I am not sure why you would ever restore just data, that is why I use titanium backup.
You would not want to restore a backup from rom x onto rom y
I only do nandroid backups if I am planning on playing with themes
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hmm. so I shouldnt be using nandroid backup/restore to get back to where i originally was if i was testing out a different rom?

I think you have me backwards
If you are running phoenix rom, but wanted to try paragon, you could do a nandroid backup of phoenix so that your set up on that rom is saved. Try paragon, but maybe it uss not for you, so you go back to phoenix. now you can restore your nandroid after you reflashed phoenix to get your settings and apps back. You can not restore the phoenix backup while on paragon. Well actually you could but it will likely cause issues
Now if you wanted to play with themes and you try one out and tower phone won't boot. You can go back to recovery and restore to get rid of the theme

mcord11758 said:
I think you have me backwards
If you are running phoenix rom, but wanted to try paragon, you could do a nandroid backup of phoenix so that your set up on that rom is saved. Try paragon, but maybe it uss not for you, so you go back to phoenix. now you can restore your nandroid after you reflashed phoenix to get your settings and apps back. You can not restore the phoenix backup while on paragon. Well actually you could but it will likely cause issues
Now if you wanted to play with themes and you try one out and tower phone won't boot. You can go back to recovery and restore to get rid of the theme
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So that means i should always "reflash" back to phoenix rom before restoring my backup onto phoenix?
in this case, would i be using the "restore/backup data" or the "restore/backup all" from the recovery menu? like i said earlier, there is a recommendation in the menu to use backup/restore data and a warning with backup/restore all.

dsu said:
So that means i should always "reflash" back to phoenix rom before restoring my backup onto phoenix?
in this case, would i be using the "restore/backup data" or the "restore/backup all" from the recovery menu? like i said earlier, there is a recommendation in the menu to use backup/restore data and a warning with backup/restore all.
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Yes you would reflash phoenix
Backup all, I believe the warning is to prevent you from restoring all from one rom to another.
Ok, I have a backup from stock 2.1. I am running paragon which is 2.2.1. If I try to restore my stock backup I will likely get stock in a boot loop and will have to use odin to recover. I believe, note believe, that if I restored just data I would be ok because I would not be restoring any system information. I use titanium to back up my apps, so I do not see a use for the option

mcord11758 said:
Yes you would reflash phoenix
Backup all, I believe the warning is to prevent you from restoring all from one rom to another.
Ok, I have a backup from stock 2.1. I am running paragon which is 2.2.1. If I try to restore my stock backup I will likely get stock in a boot loop and will have to use odin to recover. I believe, note believe, that if I restored just data I would be ok because I would not be restoring any system information. I use titanium to back up my apps, so I do not see a use for the option
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I see, still a bit confused because because i have a stock backup 2.2 from "rom manager". When switching between roms before, i would restore my phone back to the rom manager stock backup through recovery menu restore option before flashing it to another rom. That seemed to work fine.
Is there a reason for this? or is the rom manager backup different from a nandroid "backup all"?

dsu said:
Is there a reason for this? or is the rom manager backup different from a nandroid "backup all"?
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No they are the same, may be better if you tell me what toy want to do, I don't know how to explain this in different terms. Restoring your rom manager backup does not qualify as flashing stock if that is what you are doing

Please someone tell me how to backup using nandroid. I've tried many times using ROM Manager but still stuck on recovery 3(e). My captivate run on froyo JI6. Thanks.

max_82 said:
Please someone tell me how to backup using nandroid. I've tried many times using ROM Manager but still stuck on recovery 3(e). My captivate run on froyo JI6. Thanks.
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Get into recovery using power menu. Then you can use backup/restore to backup the rom.

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[Q] Issues with nandroid restore

Hey guys,
I've been using nandroid since my magic days. With my magic, I've had no problems whatsoever always wiping and doing a restore of my old nandroid backups. However, it does not seem to be the case with my captivate for some reasons.
Here are a few methods I've tried:
1) Factory wipe/data reset using clockwork recovery and restore nandroid (which I did with my magic.. not sure why they don't work)
2) Flash to 2.1 stock and do nandroid restore.
3) Flash to the ROM after a wipe that I want to restore to then do nandroid restore.
All three methods allow me to complete nandroid restore but upon reboot it's just non-stop FC city.
Can anyone guide me? Thank you
Nothing to see here, move along.
Thanks bud you are sooo helpful.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
koreancanuck said:
Hey guys,
I've been using nandroid since my magic days. With my magic, I've had no problems whatsoever always wiping and doing a restore of my old nandroid backups. However, it does not seem to be the case with my captivate for some reasons.
Here are a few methods I've tried:
1) Factory wipe/data reset using clockwork recovery and restore nandroid (which I did with my magic.. not sure why they don't work)
2) Flash to 2.1 stock and do nandroid restore.
3) Flash to the ROM after a wipe that I want to restore to then do nandroid restore.
All three methods allow me to complete nandroid restore but upon reboot it's just non-stop FC city.
Can anyone guide me?
I am not sure but do you only have one backup you are trying to use? Could be an issue with backup. Is three any lag fix in the equation? It sucks but if three worst of it is you can flash the rom but not restore your apps then I guess consider your self lucky
Captivate
Cog 2.4
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Yep. I disable my lagfixes before doing restores. To be honest it's not that big of a hassle since I can just use tibu pro and do one click restore for apps and restore my settings as well. And nandroid takes so much longer on captivate than magic D: Still it would be nice to always go back..
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CWM backup restore

I now have 5 backups stored in b&r. I notice the space on the sdcard is being used w/ every bu. Is there a way to delete old bu's no longer needed?
Um, yes
Clockwork folder on your sd. Delete like any other file
you can also use rom manager (download from android market) to manage your backups.
Backup All / Restore All
This is a "noob" question but here goes:
I've never used the CWM backup/restore. I have flashed new custom ROMs and restored "missing apps & data" via TB only so I always have to restore system settings, etc. If I do the "Backup All" via CWM and then "try out" a different ROM, can I do the "Restore All" and get everything back exactly the way it was assuming the ROM doesn't wipe the SD card?
Are there ever problems with that like if you restore system data via Titanium Backup?
RichMD said:
This is a "noob" question but here goes:
I've never used the CWM backup/restore. I have flashed new custom ROMs and restored "missing apps & data" via TB only so I always have to restore system settings, etc. If I do the "Backup All" via CWM and then "try out" a different ROM, can I do the "Restore All" and get everything back exactly the way it was assuming the ROM doesn't wipe the SD card?
Are there ever problems with that like if you restore system data via Titanium Backup?
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Nope
You do not want to restore a nandroid from 2pm x over rom y
But if you flash back to the rom that you did the backup and then restore, it will work, right?
xdahgary said:
But if you flash back to the rom that you did the backup and then restore, it will work, right?
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correct.....
mcord11758 said:
Nope
You do not want to restore a nandroid from 2pm x over rom y
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Thanks for the quick reply! I have a 1007 build and have used ODIN with master clear multiple times. If I try a new ROM and then want to revert back to my current custom ROM, can I flash back to JI6 (like always), root, get to CWM, put the backup file back on the phone, and then restore the backup file? Will that get everything back exactly like it was without using TB or reconfiguring system settings? Otherwise, what is the point of "Backup All" and "Restore All"?
RichMD said:
Thanks for the quick reply! I have a 1007 build and have used ODIN with master clear multiple times. If I try a new ROM and then want to revert back to my current custom ROM, can I flash back to JI6 (like always), root, get to CWM, put the backup file back on the phone, and then restore the backup file? Will that get everything back exactly like it was without using TB or reconfiguring system settings? Otherwise, what is the point of "Backup All" and "Restore All"?
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I guess it was answered as I was typing . Is the CWM backup to backup all system files, etc but not the ROM? Is that why I have to restore the custom ROM first?
RichMD said:
Thanks for the quick reply! I have a 1007 build and have used ODIN with master clear multiple times. If I try a new ROM and then want to revert back to my current custom ROM, can I flash back to JI6 (like always), root, get to CWM, put the backup file back on the phone, and then restore the backup file? Will that get everything back exactly like it was without using TB or reconfiguring system settings? Otherwise, what is the point of "Backup All" and "Restore All"?
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Jf6 is stock
No to safety restore you would have to reflash the rom you backed up then restore
The only reason I backup my setup is if I am playing around with themes and tweaks. If I am running rom x, and try theme y and something goes wrong I can restore my backup to erase the change I made.
It backs up the entire rom section of the phone, but not the kernel and modem because those are in write-only memory, or sd or external_sd (far as I know). So it's probably possible to restore over another rom as long as the kernel/modem are the same/compatible, but risky so like mcord11758 said, flash back to the rom that it's a backup of for safety.
For theme problems (-...) advanced restore, select system for a quick fix. data and datadata for apps only.

[Q]Phone won't reboot

Hey guys,
I used odin to get boot it back up and then I used ClockworkMod to restore backed up data....
After phone said 'restore complete,' I let the phone reboot, but the phone will not reboot
at&t screen pops up and then black out then pops up again then into android recovery mode.
Any ideas?
Could you please provide a little more information about how you got to where you are? (e.g. what rom/kernel/modem/theme you were flashing, what ODIN you used, what version of CWM, etc.) Anything you provide will be helpful in troubleshooting.
Well I had cognitive 4.5.3 installed and I tried restoring using clockmod recovery
the restore wasn't successful and the phone would stay black screened after Galaxy S logo screen
So I turned on odin3 and put my phone on download mode then hit start on odin3
that successfully restored the phone to froyo 2.2 without any of my data
so I tried using clockmod recovery once again to restore the backup
and then... that's where I am
The phone won't boot. It will just go into recovery mode
Here's the message I got after trying to restore once again
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ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.1.2
Checking MD5 sums...
Restoring system...
Restoring data...
Restoring datadata...
.android_secure.img not found. Skipping restore of /sdcard/.android_secure.
Restoring cache...
sd-ext.img not found. Skipping restore of /sd-ext/.
Restore complete!
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When did you make that nandroid backup? If you made it while on stock, you'll have to go back to stock first, then run the restore command. If on cognition, you'll need to be on the version you were on when you made the backup and restore there.
Here's the link I found on how to return to stock rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
I've done the first part - before the master reset and then tried restoring the backup and that is how I got to where I am right now.
Do I need to factory reset as well?
If I do factory reset, won't that erase the backup file?
Thanks. I really appreciate your help
jc830 said:
Here's the link I found on how to return to stock rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
I've done the first part - before the master reset and then tried restoring the backup and that is how I got to where I am right now.
Do I need to factory reset as well?
If I do factory reset, won't that erase the backup file?
Thanks. I really appreciate your help
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To answer your question, doing the master clear will erase EVERYTHING stored in the phone's internal memory. Don't do that step now, as you should be able to get out of where you are without doing that.
I think where your problem occurred is that at some point you made a nandroid backup in CWM, and by trying to restore that on stock, it's freaking out. If you can remember what ROM setup you had on your phone when you made the backup, you could try to get back to that setup to use the restore option in CWM.
Before doing any of the things you're doing now, had you made a backup in Titanium Backup?
I do have backup made with Titanium Backup.
apps data and everything that I could backup with Titanium Backup
Will restoring what I had backed up with Titanium Backup and then restoring the system using CWM work?
I am currently at 2.2 Froyo, which was the rom I was using when backing up using CWM
You've flashed 2.2 stock? If so just flash the rom you previously had with cwm then let it boot. After it boots reboot into cwm then perform a restore in cwm. If that doesnt work nand backup might not be good and you will just have to flash stock again and just rub tibu and leave it at that.
**Thing about NAND backups is that you have to use the same system when you restore (i.e. you nand backup usng cognition then you flash another rom when you nand restore its not going to boot).
Thanks guys for the suggestions!
My phone has been saved!

[Q] Restore miui backup in CM7

Now i'm in miui rom, but i want to install cm7 or stock rom.
There is any way to restore a backup done with mini backup in another rom different from miui?
Titanium Backup?
Yes, but the problem of titanium backup is that when you are restoring the backup you ned to install manually the apps, and miui backup does it automatically.
Titanium had a batch option, so you can just tell it to restore and then let it do it's work...
actually it may break your system if you restore system settings onto another version of Android.
phoeagon said:
actually it may break your system if you restore system settings onto another version of Android.
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I do it all the time...
danger-rat said:
I do it all the time...
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well, i used to have stock FRG83d(Froyo) on Nexus one. Then i tried flashing CM 7.0.3 and used it to recovery settings. i can recovery anything but system settings. If I restore system settings and reboot, the laucher will suffer from a FC loop.

[Q] CWM Recovery - restore from backup - only data?

Hi Guys.
I haven't worked much with CWM so far and couldn't find a proper answer in the threads here.
When I do a restore from a CWM backup I've not seen an option to choose just data or apps ... so I suppose the whole system including the rom and kernel will be restored. right?
As I'm happy to have CM 10.1 running after all finally, I'd just like to restore the data (SMS, etc.) from a CWM backup. Is there a possibility to do so?
Thanks for your help.
Cheers
I don't think you can do that. I used titanium backup pro to restore only the apps+setting to do that.
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Ok, thanks. Should have thought about it before.... Sometimes fingers are faster than the brain.
Cheers
You can do an advanced restore and just restore /data but it's not recommented to do this coming from stock and restoring on CM I guess...
Afro said:
You can do an advanced restore and just restore /data but it's not recommented to do this coming from stock and restoring on CM I guess...
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Why not?
ProtheusIRC said:
Why not?
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Stock and CM use different bases, and therefore restoring data of Stock can bring over some incompatible data/apk's and this can and most likely will cause a bootloop, from reading i think i can establish the safest way when your changing Rom's is to full wipe and 'clean' install. However when going from nightly to nightly this is not needed, and some data can be restored between same android version Rom's, for example CM10.2 is 4.3.1, data may work on slimbean 4.3.1.
Hope this clears things up for you.
I would also suggest to do a clean install without data recovery. If you want your data you can use Titanium Backup for App data. For the other personal stuff you can make a backup to your PC..
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CWM Recovery, URGENT REPLY!!
I faced this problem that my rom got stuck on boot image, so I had another custom rom zip in my sdcard, so to install that I had to format my phone, now I have that backup and I only want to restore system settings, apps, app data, my data(sms, call logs and stuff), I dont want to restore the system or anything else which will make it get stuck on boot image again, now which choices shall I choose in advanced restore to restore only these specified items?
Please reply urgently as I have to travel in a few days and I wont be able to do it over there.
Cheers

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