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Ok, so ever since I upgraded to CM6 (which I LOVE) I've had serious battery issues and I've tried to fix it by installing Pershoot's kernel and I have SetCPU to underclock in depending on what battery life it's at. Also, I've wiped my battery stats and I've calibrated my battery already.
Today my battery was at 64% after only 3hr and 26min. I don't have GPS on, auto backlight is on, 3g/2g and sync are on. If it makes any difference I have the Korean radio installed (which btw improved my reception a lot! ). After about 9hrs and half, my nexus one died. As per usage, I wouldn't say it's much at all because I'm in class most of the time and I've only talked on the phone for about 1 min, browsed a few websites, and sent only a few texts.
I keep reading on the forums about how people are getting 1-2% lower per hour while on standby but the % I reported earlier, my battery's draining at over 9%/hr!
I really just want to be one of those people that can say that "I still have 50% left after 12 hours!" lol
So, is there anything else I can to increase battery life? Is my battery just crap? Any recommended setCPU profiles?
If you're one of the users that get really good battery life from your Nexus One, please tell me what you did to get it that high! Thanks!
Don't use setCPU to manage battery life, only to overclock. It overrides the kernel's settings. Sounds like you need to wipe and flash the rom again. Then gradually add applications you want, something is sucking battery life.
Last, buy a new battery.
CM6 has less than stellar battery life. If you check the "help with my battery life" type threads, you will see most of the OP's have CM6 as their ROM. Try another ROM, you will get better results.
adambenjamin said:
CM6 has less than stellar battery life. If you check the "help with my battery life" type threads, you will see most of the OP's have CM6 as their ROM. Try another ROM, you will get better results.
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Quoted for lies
I'm using CM6 and I get between 22-32 hours on a single charge. I just use the kernel that comes with it and i almost always have sync on. No GPS or bluetooth though.
Are you using a battery you purchased on ebay? Or are you using the stock battery? ebay batteries last me about 9-12 hours and die. The stock battery is amazing
Exactly the same situation as you:
CM6.
N1.
Student.
Experiences massive drainage in short amounts of time with low usage.
Tried everything.
I'll now be trying Enomther, because yes I have heard CM6 users get worse battery life.
Just a viewpoint on what I'm facing. For the past week I've gone to bed with 100% battery and woken up ~7 hours later on 75%. I've tried WCDMA and GSM auto settings and neither male a difference.
evilkorn said:
Don't use setCPU to manage battery life, only to overclock. It overrides the kernel's settings. Sounds like you need to wipe and flash the rom again. Then gradually add applications you want, something is sucking battery life.
Last, buy a new battery.
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Thanks for the advice! I'll be looking into this!
KAwAtA said:
I'm using CM6 and I get between 22-32 hours on a single charge. I just use the kernel that comes with it and i almost always have sync on. No GPS or bluetooth though.
Are you using a battery you purchased on ebay? Or are you using the stock battery? ebay batteries last me about 9-12 hours and die. The stock battery is amazing
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I'm using the stock battery so I don't know what the problem. I just ordered another official stock battery though yesterday and I'm going to see if there are any differences.
Forge94 said:
Exactly the same situation as you:
CM6.
N1.
Student.
Experiences massive drainage in short amounts of time with low usage.
Tried everything.
I'll now be trying Enomther, because yes I have heard CM6 users get worse battery life.
Just a viewpoint on what I'm facing. For the past week I've gone to bed with 100% battery and woken up ~7 hours later on 75%. I've tried WCDMA and GSM auto settings and neither male a difference.
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Thanks, I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. I thought I was being an idiot by doing something wrong...
I've calibrated my battery several times already while trying to fix this issue. Could that have killed my battery life?
1) Discharging the battery below 10-15% is bad for the battery, doing it many time will destroy the battery, making it last just about nothing.
2) Check CPU usage - download System Monitor or some other app like that, and check the running frequency of the phone. When you just run the program and don't touch the phone, it should float around 300 MHz. If you have it locked on 998MHz - you have an app that got your CPU stuck in a loop.
3) Download some app that stores battery stats, and check your discharge current and battery capacity - that way you'll know if it's your battery dead or your apps drawing the juice.
Sorry, double post.
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1) Discharging the battery below 10-15% is bad for the battery, doing it many time will destroy the battery, making it last just about nothing.
2) Check CPU usage - download System Monitor or some other app like that, and check the running frequency of the phone. When you just run the program and don't touch the phone, it should float around 300 MHz. If you have it locked on 998MHz - you have an app that got your CPU stuck in a loop.
3) Download some app that stores battery stats, and check your discharge current and battery capacity - that way you'll know if it's your battery dead or your apps drawing the juice.
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crap, all the guides that i've read regarding calibration told me to discharge it completely.
My CPU usage seemed normal. It was stable at around 245 and would jump up to 998 from time to time that doesn't last for more than half a second though.
My battery seems to be in good condition as it's labeled as "healthy" by my battery apps and the voltage seemed normal....
lol at this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714184
Do a nandroid back-up of CM6, and then try out the above ROM. You can always go right back to CM at any time.
For calibration, complete discharge is necessary. Doing it once is not too harmful. As long as the battery is reported "healthy" - you're ok.
There are apps that will show you the approximate capacity of your battery in numbers. Try to find one like that.
Please check discharge current and voltage over time. It doesn't make sense that a phone on 245 MHz in sleep mode will draw the current required to discharge 10%/hour.
in same boat as OP
im in the same position as the OP
student.
dont use phone for nearly 7 hrs a day
backlight on lowest, gps and bluetooth off.
ive been looking around for answers (hence why im reading this)
when class gets out ive gone from 100% to nearly 65%
running cm6 and ive wiped battery,
about to switch ROM, maybe that'll help.
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lol at this thread...
Do a nandroid back-up of CM6, and then try out the above ROM. You can always go right back to CM at any time.
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Thanks, I'll look at that ROM and check it out when I get time (probably this weekend).
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For calibration, complete discharge is necessary. Doing it once is not too harmful. As long as the battery is reported "healthy" - you're ok.
There are apps that will show you the approximate capacity of your battery in numbers. Try to find one like that.
Please check discharge current and voltage over time. It doesn't make sense that a phone on 245 MHz in sleep mode will draw the current required to discharge 10%/hour.
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Cool, thanks for the advice. I'll look for an app ASAP and report what happens.
Branden10 said:
im in the same position as the OP
student.
dont use phone for nearly 7 hrs a day
backlight on lowest, gps and bluetooth off.
ive been looking around for answers (hence why im reading this)
when class gets out ive gone from 100% to nearly 65%
running cm6 and ive wiped battery,
about to switch ROM, maybe that'll help.
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Awesome, if you find a fix let me know please.
I haven't been able to do any of the suggestions yet but (when it comes to flashing) but I do have an update that might shine more light on this issue.
Today in class I noticed that my N1 was warm when it was in my pocket but nothing was running and gps and bluetooth was off. I checked the temp of my battery it was at 36.1C while it's usually at 30-31C when I'm not doing anything.
Also, I checked spare parts this morning and found that, while I was asleep, my N1 was not asleep for half that time but my screen on for only 4% of that time (probably from my messing with it before and a little bit after sleep).
I've checked to see if anything is running in the background that might lead to this but so far none of my apps should drain my battery that much while I was asleep.
Is this normal? Shouldn't my phone be mostly in sleep mode when I'm asleep since I'm not doing anything to it? As for the battery heating up, do y'all think it's a faulty battery or the fault of the OS?
Thanks again for all of y'all's helpful replies!
Is this normal? Shouldn't my phone be mostly in sleep mode when I'm asleep since I'm not doing anything to it? As for the battery heating up, do y'all think it's a faulty battery or the fault of the OS?
Thanks again for all of y'all's helpful replies!
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About battery heating...
I checked and mine is at 75-78F while in class. My n1 is also in a case, so for it to be that low is good. Just thought to throw that in as a comparison.
Also i've switched ROMs to help with battery, no luck there. Still experience 7-8% drop per hour.
I've been keeping my phone off now at school, which has helped, though I still lose nearly 15% while it's off.
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Branden10 said:
About battery heating...
I checked and mine is at 75-78F while in class. My n1 is also in a case, so for it to be that low is good. Just thought to throw that in as a comparison.
Also i've switched ROMs to help with battery, no luck there. Still experience 7-8% drop per hour.
I've been keeping my phone off now at school, which has helped, though I still lose nearly 15% while it's off.
Sent from my seXus One using XDA App. While I gripe about battery stats.
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I understand if my battery was at 71-78F but my battery was at almost 97F just sitting in my pocket...
Hmm, I think it's weird that the battery still drops 15% when the phone is off...
adambenjamin said:
lol at this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714184
Do a nandroid back-up of CM6, and then try out the above ROM. You can always go right back to CM at any time.
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Alright, I just flashed it with that OS. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks!
timchoi89 said:
Alright, I just flashed it with that OS. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks!
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i was using the cyanogen mod 6.0 for my nexus one and had a major battery iss i would wake up for work fully charged 100 percent goes on stand by with my set cpu to the lowest possible and the task manager running... note its on standy by with the screen low powered no gps or wifi running? so its 100 percent charged and then i leave to work arrive at 6 or 6:30 and its down 10 percent or more??? please if anyone knows a good kernel or rom to use please let us know my battery is in good health and from stock.....
Jack_R1 said:
1) Discharging the battery below 10-15% is bad for the battery, doing it many time will destroy the battery, making it last just about nothing.
2) Check CPU usage - download System Monitor or some other app like that, and check the running frequency of the phone. When you just run the program and don't touch the phone, it should float around 300 MHz. If you have it locked on 998MHz - you have an app that got your CPU stuck in a loop.
3) Download some app that stores battery stats, and check your discharge current and battery capacity - that way you'll know if it's your battery dead or your apps drawing the juice.
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im checking the cpu usage but i really dont know where and which app specificly i use but i took a few pics and will try to post them up as soon as possible....battery stats i will post that up too...please help anyone...i was using cyanogen mod now leofroyo2.1
Not sure if this is a problem with the captivate (Rogers I897) or if it's just a select few, but I noticed last night despite the usb charger being plugged in overnight, once the battery reported full, it stopped charging.
So basically, I got home from work, plugged in my captivate because the battery was rather low (only takes 24 hours of maybe 30 mins to 1h of actual usage before I get below 40%), and it took 4-5 hours to charge completely. When I unplugged it in the morning though, it was already down to 64% with just being idle all night.
So is this normal or should I ask for a replacement battery or something?
There are a lot of posts around here about batterirs dying quickly, and "charge death", but I'm not really sure whats going on with your phone. All I can suggest is that you make sure that you close all apps and stuff before letting it idle, and just see how that goes. I suppose you could just have a bad battery. Are you on a custom ROM or stock? I had problems with battery life when I first flashed to a custom rom, but since then I've switched to serendipity 4.3, I have it undervolted, I keep an eye out with a task manager, and my phone has no problems lasting all day, even while texting a good amount/using it for searches and stuff.
What ROM are you running?
Did you have GPS/Bluetooth/Wireless left on?
There are known issues with certain builds of ROM's causing this issue. If your on a stock ROM and still having this issue? I would take it in to possibly have it warrantied out or at least have the battery replaced.
I haven't ever had an issue with my phone losing a charge while plugged in.
Yeah, stock ROM. I haven't installed any additional task managers, but I usually open it up and kill all tasks when I'm finished with them.
I do keep bluetooth and GPS off at all times, but I leave wifi on overnight because I didn't think the battery would stop charging entirely once it was full. I've only had the phone a week so I could get it replaced, I just wanted to investigate it a bit to see if it's a common issue or not before I did that.
RandomZero said:
Yeah, stock ROM. I haven't installed any additional task managers, but I usually open it up and kill all tasks when I'm finished with them.
I do keep bluetooth and GPS off at all times, but I leave wifi on overnight because I didn't think the battery would stop charging entirely once it was full. I've only had the phone a week so I could get it replaced, I just wanted to investigate it a bit to see if it's a common issue or not before I did that.
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Settings --> Mobile and Network --> Wifi Settings --> Advanced (soft key) --> When screen turns off
This would turn off wifi after 15 mins of inactivity. This would help save ur battery.
And yes, charge does get cut off when left for extended times, but not right after it says charge full.
Recalibrate your battery/battery stats. This is my method, there are many others though:
1. Charge the phone with the phone ON, until the phone indicates full battery
2. Unplug the charger, replug, continue charging until full battery again (I repeat this 2-3 times)
3. Turn off phone, charge until full battery
4. Unplug the charger, replug, continue charing until full battery again (Again, I repeat 2-3 times)
5. Turn on the phone, let the phone charge yet again.
6. Boot into Android Recovery, delete battery stats (Advance -> Wipe Battery Stats)
flash to firefly. over 24 hours of battery
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More like 36 for me! No lie either.
spaz2k7 said:
flash to firefly. over 24 hours of battery
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Recalibrate your battery/battery stats. This is my method, there are many others though:
1. Charge the phone with the phone ON, until the phone indicates full battery
2. Unplug the charger, replug, continue charging until full battery again (I repeat this 2-3 times)
3. Turn off phone, charge until full battery
4. Unplug the charger, replug, continue charing until full battery again (Again, I repeat 2-3 times)
5. Turn on the phone, let the phone charge yet again.
6. Boot into Android Recovery, delete battery stats (Advance -> Wipe Battery Stats)
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Cool, I'll try this, thanks!
By default, wifi does get turned off when the screen goes dark and I haven't changed it.
I've also been tring to flash to a new ROM (been trying Android 2.2), but Kies won't load my phone). I think I'll research other methods when I have time.
RandomZero said:
Cool, I'll try this, thanks!
By default, wifi does get turned off when the screen goes dark and I haven't changed it.
I've also been tring to flash to a new ROM (been trying Android 2.2), but Kies won't load my phone). I think I'll research other methods when I have time.
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In most custom 9000 based ROMs, wifi is set to "never off" by default.
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In most custom 9000 based ROMs, wifi is set to "never off" by default.
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Ah! Didn't know that. I'm extremely new to this whole smartphone thing (just got mine a week ago) and haven't actually done any hardcore (stuff that requires flashing and whatnot) customizing yet.
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Ah! Didn't know that. I'm extremely new to this whole smartphone thing (just got mine a week ago) and haven't actually done any hardcore (stuff that requires flashing and whatnot) customizing yet.
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If u r not heavy on data and use it for things like mails and chats, and esp when in an area with no proper 3G coverage, u can switch to EDGE and get out of 3G. 3G sucks more battery compared to EDGE.
So I wasn't able to complete all the steps to kind of fix the battery problem, but I plugged it in to almost 100% (I think it was like 98% or something, I had to go out so I had to unplug it), but when I got back I plugged it in again and let it charge overnight. This morning however, it was still at 100%, and now, about 8.5 hours later, it's only at 73% so I think maybe it just had to normalize it.
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So I wasn't able to complete all the steps to kind of fix the battery problem, but I plugged it in to almost 100% (I think it was like 98% or something, I had to go out so I had to unplug it), but when I got back I plugged it in again and let it charge overnight. This morning however, it was still at 100%, and now, about 8.5 hours later, it's only at 73% so I think maybe it just had to normalize it.
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Give it some time to normalize. And charge showing 98% when unplugged at 100% is normal.
And yes, seeing 60% battery left after an hour of calls and tasks involving an hour plus of display on after a day's work, apart from push emails, etc (~14 hours standby) isn't so new anymore to me.
Stop watching the battery so closely for about a week and u'll be all set
I was on darkys 8.1 rom with jk4 modem, calibrated the battery one time and I went 18 hours. Starting from 98%
6 hours were phone calls, 1.5 hours of text messaging. 2 hours of power amp . The rest was pretty much just standby/idle time.
Though, I don't get that anymore though.. Jk4 has gone to **** for me. I used to get full signal majority of the time, and for places where other people go no bars, I got one or two. Now its pretty horrible it makes me sad ;(
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hey everyone,
firstly, i just wanna say that the HTC Incredible S is a solid and terrific device, previously owning an iPhone 4 i might like the HTC better, except for some things...
The battery:
i read some reviews before buying and every reviewer seemed to love the phone and what the battery has to offer. I've owned the phone for a week, and charge it through the USB cable, connected to my PC, and sometimes the wall socket.
But it seems to me that the battery is a bit short.... if i want the battery full i will let it charge overnight, the next day i powered it on, sent a few texts and listened to half a song and the battery has already drained to 70%, coming to this from an iPhone 4 is disgusting.
I've got Auto-Sync and background data working, i like push notifications for Emails and Facebook and i like the weather to update on its own, also HTC sense incase i need to do things remotely, everything else has been set not to sync.
One of my favorite features is Auto Brightness, which is enabled on default, but when i check battery use it says that 70% has gone to the display, 12% cell network and everything else. I have a task killer that kills all processes when i turn the screen off..
Any help??
Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
Dropping to ~95% can also be normal though. To preserve the battery the charging circuit should cutout when it reaches 100% charge and let it discharge to 95% before turning on again.
If you do wipe the battery stats make sure you read some guides and do it properly as I've found that more often than not it will have a detrimental affect (from needing to charge before it has fully discharged, or needing to reboot etc).
katu2006 said:
Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
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wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
It always drops to 95% when the battery is fully charged. S-ON Incredible S is not allowed to wipe battery status. Should I unlock it?
Yes, I forgot to mention...to wipe the battery stats you need to unlock the Hboot...If you have Hboot 1.16.000, then the only option is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
Unlocking the Hboot is giving you a few benefits, you get to install the CWM recovery and do a full backup of your Rom...Without unlocking the Hbtoot, if your Rom crashes, you can't flash any Rom so you have to send it back to HTC Service ...With the Hboot unlocked you can install custom Roms, you can restore a full backup, you can flash GAPPS etc, wipe battery stats directly from recovery etc etc...
So many benefits...
Now back on how to wipe the stats...The principle behind is simple, if 100%=4.3V and the stats are incorrectly set for 100%=3.9V, then you're never actually recharging the battery to full capacity, which is rubbish...
The way I do it is this - charge to 100%, boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats. Now use the phone until it's shutting down and then charge to 100% again.
Very important is to avoid rebooting the phone after the stats were wiped until the phone is fully recharged. Here is a thread about this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359395
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Jess95 said:
wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
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In my view, recharging while the phone is off makes no difference.
Yes, it's true. With all my Android phones I went through the same thing, first week or so, the battery was rubbish, but after about 2 weeks it improved a lot.
yeah, i've had it for around one week. so i might take your word for it and give it a chance, maybe for 2 weeks. i was thinking of bringing it back to the store but i'll give it a chance.
a part from the short battery at the moment it's a pretty terrific phone and i like it more than the iPhone 4.
Once the battery is conditioned, phone is rooted, custom Rom installed, bloat frozen out or uninstalled, then you can expect your phone battery to last a good full day with regular usage. No need to switch off when charging over night.
Well its incredible enough for me
It lasts a day, which is just right for me haha
Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
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well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
Jess95 said:
well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
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Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
Thanx everybody for the replies
katu2006 said:
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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That battery usage sounds awesome! I have mine on Auto Brightness and WiFi turned off but its nothing like yours. My battery usage app says most of it has gone to the brightness, of course that percentage goes down when i start opening apps.
edit: im also using the stock Android 2.3.3 installed from the factory. and disabled my Advanced Task Killer, battery is still the same, but the phone now lags a lot less. so thats a plus for now.
Nonverbose said:
Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
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When i first got the phone i noticed Optus loaded it with rubbish apps i'd never even touch. I disabled auto updates for the bloatware and forced stop for all the ones running. it doesnt look like i can remove them though :\
unknown2011 said:
Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
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Yes, after i charge it for some time i always remove the usb cord. cos its finished charging, right?
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
katu2006 said:
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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tzuyang said:
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
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ok atm my incredible s is saying 4 hrs 26 min uptime and 1 hr 21 min awake time, 50% left. my signal here is great, the speed of the internet even beats my ADSL 2+ sometimes. should i be thinking of warranty back to store?
Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
shields360 said:
Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
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sounds just about right. my iPhone 4 needed a charge like once every 2 - 4 days, i thought it was awesome. On the Incredible S it says that 62% of the battery usage has gone to display, with very little apps on the list.
The optus apps are just sitting there. Because im on Amaysim i can't exactly use them properly because you need an actual optus account. ive tried opening some of the optus apps, they're mostly just web links and theres a Mobile TV and a Music Store app i believe, but i never at all use them. so they cant be consuming any data, memory or battery or anything, right??
Im still unsure about 'rooting'. Im guessing it's android's version of the jailbreak or a godmode on the device? i might need some help on it, i know how to flash windows mobile and jailbreak iTouch devices easily.
But then again, a lot of people have bought this phone, they cant all be experiencing terrible battery life and i dont think every user would have a root on their device.
I bought it from DickSmith here in Aus, the guy there told me there's a 1 yr back to store warranty. The phone is solid and one of the best phones i've ever had, plus a good price tag on it, its a shame to let a weak battery spoil it.
im thinking of returning it, but i heard somewhere it needs a couple weeks to strengthen the battery, if that's the case then there's no point getting a new one only to wait longer, ill give it a little more time. Plus HTC is releasing 2.3.5 software for the Incredible S soon, and wikiPedia states that it's got "Improved battery efficiency". but ill still keep root in mind for when i get more use to the device.
tzuyang said:
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
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Yes, about 40min to 1hour display on... sometimes more...I will attach a screenshot once I get throughout the whole battery.
Yes, generally good coverage and mostly 3G...I'm on Optus.
My phone has been rooted before, but now it's on stock Rom as an experiment...
I would strongly advise on rooting, it changes the phone completely.
And remove any animation (live wallpapers) those are killing the battery.
Also found one more thing. If you've got Facebook installed it refreshes every hour, i set mine to never refresh, but you can still receive notifications
But i still don't get why the battery drains soo quickly, even on standby.
edit: found one more thing.
uptime and awake time. when i turn the screen off and awake time should stop counting as the phone is locked and im not using any apps, right?? in some cases i've noticed the awake timer still counts.
example: awake time will read 1:52:39, turn the screen off at this point. go back a couple hours later it's been counting as awake the whole time, and has half battery life it did eventhough i haven't touched the device since locking it and turning off the screen.
in some cases the awake timer will not budge when i lock the phone and turn the screen off and still find the same amount of battery life remaining when i come back.
I didn't use the note much, but it needs to charge each day. This is bad than tablet. Any software to save battery? I tried 'air plane mode' sofeware, but it also turns off phone after sleep.
truelies1 said:
I didn't use the note much, but it needs to charge each day. This is bad than tablet. Any software to save battery? I tried 'air plane mode' sofeware, but it also turns off phone after sleep.
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What apps and widgets are you running? Have you gone through 2 or 3 full discharge/recharge cycles? There are apps out there that can detect if any app is consuming your battery but you will have to search the forums as I don't know of any first hand.
Also, which ROM are you using? When I was using Rocket Rom v22 with AbyssKernel 4.1, my Note would last more than a day on the same charge even with moderate use. Give that a try as it also really boosts performance.
I'm currently on Team Rocket Rom (ICS based) v5 but have not used it extensively to comment on battery yet. So far with 3 activesync email accounts (all push), some widgets running (weather, clock, etc.) and the Note sitting idle consume about 2-3% battery per hour. Will monitor this.
most smartphones ned to be charged every day, what battery life are you expecting to get ?
battery depends on the usage and applications you installed on the phone.
have you tried rooting already? usually custom roms have the best alternatives of extending your phone's battery and giving it an optimal performance.
Try to stop some bloatwares that your phone's loading up everytime it starts up(from rebooting)
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What apps and widgets are you running? Have you gone through 2 or 3 full discharge/recharge cycles? There are apps out there that can detect if any app is consuming your battery but you will have to search the forums as I don't know of any first hand.
Also, which ROM are you using? When I was using Rocket Rom v22 with AbyssKernel 4.1, my Note would last more than a day on the same charge even with moderate use. Give that a try as it also really boosts performance.
I'm currently on Team Rocket Rom (ICS based) v5 but have not used it extensively to comment on battery yet. So far with 3 activesync email accounts (all push), some widgets running (weather, clock, etc.) and the Note sitting idle consume about 2-3% battery per hour. Will monitor this.
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I am using la2 rom. Here i attached an picture.
Geez... i personally feel that one day charge is reasonable especially with the juice required to drive the big display.
Anyway, Juice Defender premium is one app that has helped me, and may help you too.
Since you got Activesync, with the premium version of JD, you can customize app to be excluded from 'power saving', so that the inbox is up to date.
+1 for juicedefender.
Other tips that may not be obvious to first-time smartphone owners are:
1. Set your screen brightness to auto. You don't need the brightness cranked right up all the time.
2. Disable bluetooth and GPS if you're not using them. Juicedefender will do a pretty good job of managing your other radios.
3. If you've got email syncing set up on your phone, set it to check as rarely as you can put up with. Push email uses a LOT of battery life, and even a scheduled check can blaze through your battery if it's happening often enough.
4. If you've put on a custom ROM your phone may be reporting inaccurate battery stats. Give it a full charge, boot into clockwork recovery and wipe your battery stats. You'll find a few days after that your phone will start reporting more accurately.
Good luck, and if any of this was unclear feel free to ask further questions.
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Geez... i personally feel that one day charge is reasonable especially with the juice required to drive the big display.
Anyway, Juice Defender premium is one app that has helped me, and may help you too.
Since you got Activesync, with the premium version of JD, you can customize app to be excluded from 'power saving', so that the inbox is up to date.
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I only got one phone call for one min., so i think 1 day is too short.
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I am using la2 rom. Here i attached an picture.
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Try a later ROM to see if the same issue exists. I think you should instal rocket rom v22 - you'll be happy with performance and battery life based on your usage.
try to calibrate your battery as well... there are many apps out there that offers better battery calibration or you can do a manual calibration as well.
Give it some time and upgrade your ROM
I am getting great battery life. It runs for full day (24 hrs) with 30% of battery usage. though in a day i dont use it much, just 5 to 10 calls of around half an hour to 40 minutes.. data and gps always on.. screen brightness on auto...
My note running the OEM battery last me about 6 hrs.
Averages about 45mins talk time/day
About 50 SMS/day
Screen brightness set to 100
Checks email every 5 mins
Using a live wallpaper
Refreshes the daily weather using Accuweather every hr
Bluetooth always turned on
Battery Widget
Fancy Widget
ESPN scoreboard ticker widget refreshes
Twitter running all day
Facebook Widget syncing all day
and more...
sideways86 said:
+1 for juicedefender.
Other tips that may not be obvious to first-time smartphone owners are:
1. Set your screen brightness to auto. You don't need the brightness cranked right up all the time.
2. Disable bluetooth and GPS if you're not using them. Juicedefender will do a pretty good job of managing your other radios.
3. If you've got email syncing set up on your phone, set it to check as rarely as you can put up with. Push email uses a LOT of battery life, and even a scheduled check can blaze through your battery if it's happening often enough.
4. If you've put on a custom ROM your phone may be reporting inaccurate battery stats. Give it a full charge, boot into clockwork recovery and wipe your battery stats. You'll find a few days after that your phone will start reporting more accurately.
Good luck, and if any of this was unclear feel free to ask further questions.
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^ This. Or better yet, just always set your brightness to the lowest brightness setting, 50% afaik. And use black/dark wallpapers and always turn on night mode (if applicable, especially when using your browser)
If in case you need to adjust the brightness, you don't have to go through the jungle of settings, just click notification bar and slide horizontally to change to your preferred brightness.
Jd is hit n miss will actually helping out. If your phone sleeps a lot jd is nice at keeping cell or wifi off if your like me and on it every 10 minutes then toggling data and other things can consume more juice. .... I have tried with and without on my tablets and phones and see no big difference depending on use.
Sent from my Ice Creamy Galaxy NOTE
I was pretty happy with my battery until two days ago. I use my note very little, for e-mail checking (which I pull manually) a few times a day, and to make two or three phone calls per day. I also text my kids occasionally. GPS and Bluetooth are off most of the time. Battery used to last me about two and a half days under these conditions, which seemed reasonable to me. All of a sudden, two days ago, I charged my battery, and after a full charge it drained 60% overnight. Thought that it was a fluke, so rebooted my phone, fully charged again, and the same thing (over half of the juice gone overnight) happened again. Battery stats tell me that Android OS were 100% responsible for overnight drainage. Any clues? I am on stock ROM, by the way.
Thank you.
Flaco05 said:
I was pretty happy with my battery until two days ago. I use my note very little, for e-mail checking (which I pull manually) a few times a day, and to make two or three phone calls per day. I also text my kids occasionally. GPS and Bluetooth are off most of the time. Battery used to last me about two and a half days under these conditions, which seemed reasonable to me. All of a sudden, two days ago, I charged my battery, and after a full charge it drained 60% overnight. Thought that it was a fluke, so rebooted my phone, fully charged again, and the same thing (over half of the juice gone overnight) happened again. Battery stats tell me that Android OS were 100% responsible for overnight drainage. Any clues? I am on stock ROM, by the way.
Thank you.
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Get a good app to check what is using the battery or keeping the phone awake. This last is the most likely.
Baddass Battery Monitor is my recommendation.
Not a single phone call, only used about 10 mins. after 21 hours only 11% left. Install Jd with 'balanced' option.
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Get a good app to check what is using the battery or keeping the phone awake. This last is the most likely.
Baddass Battery Monitor is my recommendation.
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Thank you. I will give that a try.
Badass, got to love that name....
Ok, I used the Badass monitor to see what's going on. Once again, no phone usage, quick overnight battery drainage. Android OS 100% responsible, and the main power sucker is the Kernel (96%). Why is this happening? And, is there a remedy? I have changed nothing that would trigger this! My Note is still within the return window, so if there is anything wrong with it, I will return it.
Thanks again.
Flaco05 said:
Ok, I used the Badass monitor to see what's going on. Once again, no phone usage, quick overnight battery drainage. Android OS 100% responsible, and the main power sucker is the Kernel (96%). Why is this happening? And, is there a remedy? I have changed nothing that would trigger this! My Note is still within the return window, so if there is anything wrong with it, I will return it.
Thanks again.
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Badass Monitor is very useful, my note was drained by Dolphin Browser, it used 38% of battery. Seems like for this browser, if I only press home key to exit, It will keep running?
I think the reason the battery drain fast is we press 'home' key to return to main menu, that will keep a lot of apps run in the background.
Hello guys I'm a newbie here so please do explain to me some of the stuff if you need to
so recently (about 2 weeks ago) I used this guide to root my Incredible S and did everything except the Blackrose part
and since then
I've noticed that my phone has drained its battery a lot quicker than usual
I lost 11% of battery when I woke up, fully charging it the night before
I usually do not use it much, only a call every 2 days or so, and I do not have internet connection
so I cannot understand how I have to charge it every day now, when it used to last 4 days (on Sense)
here's a pic from betterybatterystats
thanks everyone
------- 4/10 edit
ok
back to stock rom
it has the SAME problem
"No data connection" and "No or Unknown Signal" on Betterbatterystats
with steep drops in battery whenever there is "Mobile network signal"
and next to no drop whatsoever when there isn't
PLEASE HELP ><
new attachments down there with stock rom
tell me if you need a translation
THANKS
davidchuyaya said:
Hello guys I'm a newbie here so please do explain to me some of the stuff if you need to
so recently (about 2 weeks ago) I used this guide to root my Incredible S and did everything except the Blackrose part
and since then
I've noticed that my phone has drained its battery a lot quicker than usual
I lost 11% of battery when I woke up, fully charging it the night before
I usually do not use it much, only a call every 2 days or so, and I do not have internet connection
so I cannot understand how I have to charge it every day now, when it used to last 4 days (on Sense)
here's a pic from betterybatterystats
thanks everyone
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Battery drain has already been discussed much in the CM10.1 thread. Its been discussed in practically every AOSP thread really.
072665995 said:
Battery drain has already been discussed much in the CM10.1 thread. Its been discussed in practically every AOSP thread really.
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I know and I've tried to look around for answers for quite a few days
but for most people
it's either the same as Sense or something else (too many apps, not charging fully...)
and for those with similar conditions
I can't find solutions for
and the problem got worse today
in the 7 hours I slept yesterday
the battery drained from more than 50% to nothing
so the alarm didn't ring because it shut itself off
davidchuyaya said:
I know and I've tried to look around for answers for quite a few days
but for most people
it's either the same as Sense or something else (too many apps, not charging fully...)
and for those with similar conditions
I can't find solutions for
and the problem got worse today
in the 7 hours I slept yesterday
the battery drained from more than 50% to nothing
so the alarm didn't ring because it shut itself off
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The standard charging time isnt what it says on the box or anything. It should be roughly 6 hours from 0% to 100% and thats providing you plug it into an AC outlet. I would suggest trying an app called Greenify. It hibernates certain apps/ services that may not be in use thus saving battery. I would also regularly check the Running Apps in settings and clear out anything unecessary.
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The standard charging time isnt what it says on the box or anything. It should be roughly 6 hours from 0% to 100% and thats providing you plug it into an AC outlet. I would suggest trying an app called Greenify. It hibernates certain apps/ services that may not be in use thus saving battery. I would also regularly check the Running Apps in settings and clear out anything unecessary.
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nonono
I don't have a charging problem
it's a drainage problem
and about Greenify
I already installed that when I looked over the battery saving guide (which didn't help)
I literally have 5 apps in the Running Apps section
the part I don't get is
why does Cyanogenmod 10.1 use battery so much quicker than Sense
when I have 1/4 the apps I originally did?
it's the "No Data Connection" and "No or Unknown Signal" part really bothers me.
oh and thanks for the time btw
davidchuyaya said:
nonono
I don't have a charging problem
it's a drainage problem
and about Greenify
I already installed that when I looked over the battery saving guide (which didn't help)
I literally have 5 apps in the Running Apps section
the part I don't get is
why does Cyanogenmod 10.1 use battery so much quicker than Sense
when I have 1/4 the apps I originally did?
it's the "No Data Connection" and "No or Unknown Signal" part really bothers me.
oh and thanks for the time btw
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Hmm then this battery drainage is strange. Try making a full backup in recovery. Then clean flash the ROM again. If the problem still persists, then I have absolutely no idea whats wrong lol
072665995 said:
Hmm then this battery drainage is strange. Try making a full backup in recovery. Then clean flash the ROM again. If the problem still persists, then I have absolutely no idea whats wrong lol
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Actually
I tried that...
on Sunday afternoon I reflashed it
my exact steps:
1. ClockworkMod backup
2. Install from zip
3. Advanced restore - data (I restored the whole thing too once before that, but thought that just restoring the data might actually change something)
and that's when it went from 50% to 0 overnight
not looking too good -.-
davidchuyaya said:
Actually
I tried that...
on Sunday afternoon I reflashed it
my exact steps:
1. ClockworkMod backup
2. Install from zip
3. Advanced restore - data (I restored the whole thing too once before that, but thought that just restoring the data might actually change something)
and that's when it went from 50% to 0 overnight
not looking too good -.-
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Well then sit tight. Szezso is gonna release a CM10.1 for us as soon as he gets his new USB port.
oh well then
thanks for the help anyways
I'll just keep waiting
might want to go back to Sense though...
and more pics from BetterBatteryStats
just in case anyone knows what they mean
Drained 56% of my battery while I was asleep yesterday (for about 7 hours)
only 6% in the time I was at school, because of Airplane mode (I even listened to music and played a little Doodle Jump)
but I obviously want a phone to CALL PEOPLE
so I'm reverting to stock Rom
OK
so that didn't work out
I edited the main article
hope someone can help!!
meanwhile I'll look for more articles online since I know it's not (really) CM's problem anymore
thanks
Ensure to charge your mobile fully and after a NORMAL usage (calls, WiFi, Mobile Data on).
Just share the dump file from betterbatterystats. It would help to analyse better.
Edit:
Could notice you are using some widgets in the home screen. Usually widgets with high refresh rate drains your battery.
2. Facebook app is causing the partial wakelock. Even when the screen is off, the app is using your CPU. Try to disable autosync if it's enabled
3. Audio_out3 wakelock is due to phone vibrator is enabled. May be during call or keyboard haptic feature.
Power manager service wakelock is common and its in good level.
Try to check your CPU freq n governor.
And adjust accordingly. One more, Li-on battery should not be charged fully. Just charge till 85-90%. The battery will drain little lower compared to fully charged device. And you need to charge your device only when battery is low. Frequent charging n discharging will affect the battery life. Consistent Charge and discharge cycle is encouraged.
Try to share your fresh dump here or in batter battery status thread. There are many folks to help you with.
sent from CyberMachine
Cyb0rgz said:
Ensure to charge your mobile fully and after a NORMAL usage (calls, WiFi, Mobile Data on).
Just share the dump file from betterbatterystats. It would help to analyse better.
Edit:
Could notice you are using some widgets in the home screen. Usually widgets with high refresh rate drains your battery.
2. Facebook app is causing the partial wakelock. Even when the screen is off, the app is using your CPU. Try to disable autosync if it's enabled
3. Audio_out3 wakelock is due to phone vibrator is enabled. May be during call or keyboard haptic feature.
Power manager service wakelock is common and its in good level.
Try to check your CPU freq n governor.
And adjust accordingly. One more, Li-on battery should not be charged fully. Just charge till 85-90%. The battery will drain little lower compared to fully charged device. And you need to charge your device only when battery is low. Frequent charging n discharging will affect the battery life. Consistent Charge and discharge cycle is encouraged.
Try to share your fresh dump here or in batter battery status thread. There are many folks to help you with.
sent from CyberMachine
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Thanks for the detailed reply sir
My widgets (aka weather & tasks) only refresh manually, and nothing is on Autosync (in the auto sync menu, anyways)
originally had only vibration for calls, turned that off too now
and what is "CPU freq n governor"?
didn't know that about the batteries
I'll do that next time
and I just reinstalled betterbatterystats, so I'll post the Dump File after a few hours
Thanks again!!
davidchuyaya said:
Thanks for the detailed reply sir.
and what is "CPU freq n governor"?
didn't know that about the batteries
I'll do that next time
and I just reinstalled betterbatterystats, so I'll post the Dump File
Thanks again!!
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I mean CPU frequency steps and CPU governor. It's a kernel thing. Just search xda, you will lot of info regarding that.
Sure, post your dump with normal usage.
It's easy to click thanks rather than expressing in words
sent from CyberMachine
Cyb0rgz said:
I mean CPU frequency steps and CPU governor. It's a kernel thing. Just search xda, you will lot of info regarding that.
Sure, post your dump with normal usage.
It's easy to click thanks rather than expressing in words
sent from CyberMachine
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got it then
I'm going to install SetCPU
but because the RUU unrooted my phone, I'm going to have to root it again
meanwhile
the Dump File
***4/12 8:20PM edit
finished rooting, reinstalled stuff
I installed No-frills CPU Control instead
since it's free
but I have no idea what I'm supposed to do with it
am I suppose to just record the data and post it here?
Um...
guys?