OK, this sounds stupid and it probably is, but I notice with HC's nifty 'Open Apps' status bar button, that everything I touch is still open and I can switch to it. Awesome! But what about the apps that don't have a 'close' 'exit' or whatever button or feature, and it just sits there open?
I know I can go into various places and Force Close it, but I figure there's gotta be a long press trick or something and I can't find it...
Is this maybe a simple lack of ability in the NC (not having certain buttons) or that these apps were not made for HC, or what?
wish I could help you. I am a big fan of fast reboot and advanced task killer. If HC has these new features you speak thats great. Not sure either of those Apps will work on HC either.
Remeber this is an SDK preview...perhaps that feature is available on the final release
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I use a program called prehome. It's available in the market and it does a great job of handling multitasking as well as closing apps.
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With android you don't have to "close" a program like in windows. If a program is not being used and android needs more resources, it will automatically free that memory.
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With android you don't have to "close" a program like in windows. If a program is not being used and android needs more resources, it will automatically free that memory.
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I understand that, but i would prefer to have control. Especially with HC since those apps still running stay in the recent buttons list.
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Any task killer on Eclair and up is occupying more clock cycles and memory than any task in the background would be. Just because you see those recent apps doesn't mean they're "running", the VM in Android will "garbage collect" if necessary and it will do it infinitely more efficiently than a task killer would.
I think some of the older task managers still work but if not you can always go into settings, applications, manage applications and force close em from there. I believe with most launchers you can make a shortcut directly to that option under settings.
In Android you hit the Back button. The system handles killing the app if it's deemed necessary.
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Hey, I was wondering if it were at any way possible to add a quit or kill button to the menu popup that will end the currently loaded app? Maybe the devs can come up with a way to implement a global method that will work with any currently open app when you press the menu button?
I know they have the task killers and all that.. but I just thought it would be a neat modification while I was in browser and came across a situation where I had to restart the browser and couldn't figure out a way to kill it without having to download a task killer....I just seldom need to kill all apps is why I don't have advanced task killer installed anymore. ...
Each application's menu is within that application itself. It would have to be something in the pull-down menu, and that would only be visible if the application allows it.
A nice alternative might be to add a "kill top" to the long-press-home.
Although it really isn't too hard to go to home, open a terminal, and kill the problem application.
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Hey, I was wondering if it were at any way possible to add a quit or kill button to the menu popup that will end the currently loaded app? Maybe the devs can come up with a way to implement a global method that will work with any currently open app when you press the menu button?
I know they have the task killers and all that.. but I just thought it would be a neat modification while I was in browser and came across a situation where I had to restart the browser and couldn't figure out a way to kill it without having to download a task killer....I just seldom need to kill all apps is why I don't have advanced task killer installed anymore. ...
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Although closing apps is actually against the ethos of Android I tend to agree that, whilst we still attach ourselves to old paradigms, a close function would be nice. Perhaps a little x on the right hand side of the app's entry in the navigation list would be good. It could be implemented universally (using the same Android close app mechanisms as are used for low memory conditions) and would not require modifications to any apps.
In the meantime, you do realise you can close a single app from Settings | Applications | Manage Applications right?
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...while I was in browser and came across a situation where I had to restart the browser...
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Were you looking at porn?!
^haha you know it! Nah but actually I enabled that browser download any file type setting In astro which required a restart of the browser and I was feeling lazy when I thought it would be nice to have a close button.
And ya.I am aware of the manage applications deal in the built-in settings. But I was jus thinking it would be nice to be able to close it while I'm still I'm the actual app itself.
Nice to know it could be possible tho
Seems the N1 has memory management issues. Instead of constantly closing apps to free up memory or have some app try to manage things, be nice to just kill the thing on exit. Any app that will auto-kill when an app exits?
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It would be nice to have, say, long press back key to kill the current app.
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Seems the N1 has memory management issues. Instead of constantly closing apps to free up memory or have some app try to manage things, be nice to just kill the thing on exit. Any app that will auto-kill when an app exits?
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You obviously didn't search for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205
You DON'T need to intervene with N1 memory management, since you don't know how it works. You assume wrong. And most bad gossips are created by people wrongly assuming something, thinking they know something while they actually don't.
My N1 runs equally well with 40MB and 250MB free. The only reason I use a task killer is to kill apps that I want to return to their "initial" state for some reason, or to kill apps that I suspect of wrongdoing.
Exactly, the nexus has no memory management issues. It is just your misunderstanding of how Android works. Leave your tasks alone.
If you have one or two particular apps that are bad citizens and should be shutting down in the background but don't... you can use "1Kill" from the market to create a home screen shortcut that kills that specific app when you press it.
Fring used to be a bad citizen - it would lock my wifi on even when I didn't want to be using it, and had no exit feature. So I'd always have to kill it after finishing up with it. Now it does have a proper exit, thankfully.
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My N1 runs equally well with 40MB and 250MB free. The only reason I use a task killer is to kill apps that I want to return to their "initial" state for some reason, or to kill apps that I suspect of wrongdoing.
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Ditto!
1 app running or 50 apps running they all still run the same.
I find it even funnier how iOS4 users in Apple-land are suddenly freaking out that so many applications appear to be open "in the background" and complaining that they have to spend so much time "killing" apps.
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Seems the N1 has memory management issues. Instead of constantly closing apps to free up memory or have some app try to manage things, be nice to just kill the thing on exit. Any app that will auto-kill when an app exits?
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I think you have the memory management issues.
Before anyone gets tarred and feathered, that explains why many users on unrooted stock roms ha e frequent touchscreen lockups, hesitation and freezes. Guess theres a reason why the market has so many task killers. Maybe the devs should read this thread also lol. Instead of flaming, positive feedback is appreciated. I did search, but its a bit time consuming sifting through 5000 posts. Maybe you guys o rooted phones have no lockups, but google shows an azzload of people with similar issues.
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1) You've been given some answers in the thread, if you cared to look.
2) App that loses focus goes to background. That's the way OS is built. If you want apps to be killed on losing focus, get iOS 3 to run on your device. Seriously, what kind of answer would you expect, if you want to turn multitasking OS into non-multitasking?
3) The market has task killers because they can be written for multitasking OS, and because they help dealing with bad apps. Not for any other reason.
4) The OS loads some of your most used tasks when it runs, even if you don't know about it. Just loads in the memory, and allocates no CPU time. If you leave your phone unattended, your free memory goes down by itself. Why? Because free memory is wasted memory. You can check the "EMPTY" processes in Astro, for example.
5) The best task killer is careful selection of your apps. You see hangups? Find out the app that's doing it and remove it, or kill it specifically after running if it's necessary.
6) Task killers are a good source of lockups and freezes too, did you know? I guess you didn't read that thread...
All this meant to say: instead of looking for a way to cripple your OS, learn to select your apps, and don't solve issues that you don't have.
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I find it even funnier how iOS4 users in Apple-land are suddenly freaking out that so many applications appear to be open "in the background" and complaining that they have to spend so much time "killing" apps.
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Yeah, I think Apple needs to tweak their multi-tasking still. I've played with my gf's iPhone a bit this week, and it's a little annoying how now you have to explicitly quit every app. For example, with the Settings app if I go to change a preference quickly then return to home Settings app is still in the running apps list. I think little utilities like that should be able to quit themselves automatically.
I know the app isn't wasting memory or CPU down there, but I just don't see why you would want it cluttering up your app switcher forever.
Oh well, it's progress though. At least now you don't have to quit everything else you're doing to listen to Pandora
well android does the same thing. if you go into the settings menu, then hit home button, the settings is still running in the background. of course andoird will kill it later when it needs to.
I was looking at an article about memory management on android. They say that android runs better without any manger. Correction it runs better without a memory manager. Question for you people, what programs do you use and what are your thoughts?
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Most people use these app think it would enhance their performance.
I would certainly not object to such hypothesis.
However, I find that using these app would kill apps either too quickly or too late.
I do realize that there are advance options that would optimize such hassles. But after configuring these options, I found that it's easier to use my device without it.
So my final advise is not use it.
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I think this is true in most cases. However who wants a 3D game running in the background eating up resources?
I recommend using a Task Killer but only killing heavy tasks like games, etc. I used to kill all tasks (which doesn't hurt anything really) but doesn't seem to be 100% necessary.
I also recommend that if you use a task killer (and want to kill all tasks) and a home clock widget (like beautiful widgets) that you add it to the ignore list or the time will eventually become off.
my captivate slows down within 5 mins of heavy use without me killing all tasks periodically with taskiller. thats why apple uses fake multitasking...u cant slow the iphone 4 down with applications in the background even if you try, because essentially there not running.......just paused and resumed.
It seems that one that is a good one to consider is one that tweaks the settings that the native task killer to android uses.
Here is an interesting thread on it. Out of that thread 3 of them have developed. I originally was using Advanced Task Killer, but after reading this thread, I am now using AutoKiller, and think it is doing a good job. And the end result of what to kill is decided by the OS, not the task killer.
The name of it is misleading, ad it does not kill tasks. It just changes the settings that the OS uses to make that decision.
I use ATK. I have security set to high (doesn't show processes), I don't use auto kill, and I have established an ignore list. I find that my device is faster with the way I use the TK.
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Hi all,
I have a motorola milestone (GSM, Telus) and I was wondering if there is a script or an app to "kill" apps, but not let them restart again. This is similar to something found on cydia (for Iphone and ipod touch) called Sb settings. Within sb settings there is a menu which can kill apps and free memory. When you kill these apps, they do not come back, unless you re-open app. With android, you kill an app, and in an instant they re-appear without you opening it. Is there a script that could block some apps from opening from bootup? Or an app that works like SB settings to kill an app, and not let it re-open again? I think this would free up much more ram on our milestones, especially because we cannot swap. (Because of the locked bootloader)
Edit: Another question: Is there a script that can install apps in a specific folder? E.g. sweeterhome, or other apps not on the market? It is really annoying having to go through titanium backup and having to go through the whole install process (I know its just a few buttons, but with a lot of apps it gets annoying!). This was in GOT OR, but it is now outdated, and there seems to be an option in Androidani Recovery 3.3 but I can't get it to work. Thanks.
Thanks, and any help is appreciated.
1. I personally disable/remove all apps that annoy me. This is espcially true for anything that autoruns. But most task killers (like advanced task kill) have an autokill feature. It kills any apps not in your ignore list at specific intervals or other triggers like low ram.
2. Using froyo based roms, you can install most apps onto sdcard. CM6 based ROMs also offer the option for default install locations.
I believe that you are talking about apps2sd or ext2. This is an older, but more flexible way of doing sd apps installs. I think (not an expert myself) it requires ext2 filesystem support. This in turn requires a kernel module to be loaded. There are many threads active right now about this topic.
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Regarding Q2, I think he wants to install a bunch of .apks from a specific directory in some sort of quiet mode...
I'm not sure this is possible easily, if you've got root-access you may just move them via the console to the required directories...
Search market for autorun manager and read, see if that is what u want , and in froyo kill doesn't kill anymore it more like restart...
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Regarding Q2, I think he wants to install a bunch of .apks from a specific directory in some sort of quiet mode...
I'm not sure this is possible easily, if you've got root-access you may just move them via the console to the required directories...
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Quiet mode? No, I just have various beta apps that I do not want to re-install after I flash a rom.
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I think I was mis-interpreted.
My question was that can I kill an app for good? some autorun even when I don't want them too and when I do kill them from a task killer they just re-appear. I want them too stop once I press kill like iphone.
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Hey Folks,
Just wanted to hear some opinions on whether having a task manger is worth it. I've heard from both sides of the camp, stating newer versions of android can handle the load fine, and that more and more apps are running unnecessary background services.
I just did a clean wipe and reload of CM7 and I'm wondering whether I want my advanced task manager anymore.
Thoughts?
For me, I prefer no task killer. If I must close apps I go into running services and stop them that way. Usually they stop without me doing that.
I don't use one, not needed.
i never ever felt the need of having a task killer on my Inc S
the apps close by themselves when not in use.
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just use v6 supercharger it is better than all the taskillers you may find.
I don't use one. I'm running CM7 and as Saenzscene said, I stop programs in the running services menu. However I never really had the need to do it as RAM was never a problem.
But I have noticed while running certain programs that if you press the "home" button, the program may keep running in the background afterwards. Whereas if you press the "back" button it will close the program's running service. Can anyone confirm this?
Never had the need for a TaskManager with CM7 or ARHD.
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if you're using a task manager or task killer since froyo, urdoinitwrong
I'm using advanced task killer simply to kill anything that may not be shut down even tho I mean to.
As someone said above, it's possible that some alps stay open and keep your phone awake. I have a large ignore list which I use to ensure nothing important gets closed down, only the rogue apps, now my phone never stays awake when it shouldn't.
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No Task Manager. Using CM7 nightly 103.
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I don't use one. I'm running CM7 and as Saenzscene said, I stop programs in the running services menu. However I never really had the need to do it as RAM was never a problem.
But I have noticed while running certain programs that if you press the "home" button, the program may keep running in the background afterwards. Whereas if you press the "back" button it will close the program's running service. Can anyone confirm this?
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Yes, some apps like to run as a service process if you quit the app. FriendCaster is one example. I think they do this to handle sync process in the background.
I don't need anyone!
My choice is no task manager, android is good.