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Custom Rom Options?

Hey everyone. I'm posting here because I have a friend with a Captivate and I'm trying to get him to root his phone.
I sent him the link to the 1 click root but I don't know what rom to have him flash. I have an EVO and in the EVO forums we have a sticky with all the custom roms listed so it's easy to see what's there. Is there anything like that for you guys?
He's basically looking for a stable 2.2 rom.

ViViDboarder said:
Hey everyone. I'm posting here because I have a friend with a Captivate and I'm trying to get him to root his phone.
I sent him the link to the 1 click root but I don't know what rom to have him flash. I have an EVO and in the EVO forums we have a sticky with all the custom roms listed so it's easy to see what's there. Is there anything like that for you guys?
He's basically looking for a stable 2.2 rom.
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The Captivate DEV scene isn't too large right now, (most of them are in the Vibrant section) We have few custom roms, but the ones you can find, along with mods can be found in the Development section of Captivate.

Bowsa2511 said:
The Captivate DEV scene isn't too large right now, (most of them are in the Vibrant section) We have few custom roms, but the ones you can find, along with mods can be found in the Development section of Captivate.
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This is very true. Most went to vibrant because they were ex-G1 users. However the good news is the most of the coding will be the same so they are relatively easy to port. I have a feeling the captivate will not be getting as much dev action, and most people are switching from windows mobile or iPhone and have no android dev experience. But it will eventually speed up

Don't have him flash a custom ROM just to flash a custom ROM. Right now there are a limited number of ROMs, and he can read up on them in the dev to see if there is anything changes in the newer firmwares that would make it worth his time to flash. AFAIK, there are no fully functional, stable 2.2 ROMs (although the leaked build for the i9000/international version does mostly work, I think). There are also a few leaked updates to the 2.1 firmware.

mesasone said:
Don't have him flash a custom ROM just to flash a custom ROM. Right now there are a limited number of ROMs, and he can read up on them in the dev to see if there is anything changes in the newer firmwares that would make it worth his time to flash. AFAIK, there are no fully functional, stable 2.2 ROMs (although the leaked build for the i9000/international version does mostly work, I think). There are also a few leaked updates to the 2.1 firmware.
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Yea, that's why I am asking if there are any stable 2.2 roms yet. But as I gather there aren't. I'll just tell him to keep his eyes open here.

I've been using Cognition 2.2b6 for about 4 months now with no problems. Seems to be the most stable rom out there for the captivate.

I've been using Cognition 2.3b3 for several weeks and it's working great, the only issue for me is the android email process crashes on startup, I use the gmail app anyway, so its a non issue for me... It took 3 or 4 days to get the correct order of opperations, it seems not everything you find on XDA works for every Captivate, I guess AT&T keeps disabling settings and crapware crippling the phone... But the order that worked for me was:
STOCK AT&T 2.2 FROYO:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797282
ROOT:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
JI6 KERNEL:
I did not root with the link in this post (was already rooted when I found it)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804226
COGNITION:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
SIDELOAD:
Option two worked for me, option one did not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738376
Now that I've done all this I could NEVER go back to stock, it's like having a completely different phone... Unbelievable upgrade. F-U AT&T.

Hands down Cognition to start. When he's ready to move on Cognadian Bacon!
Swyping...please read slowly!

Cool. Thanks for all the replies. I just flashed the latest Cognition beta for him yesterday actually. He's so much happier. Haha.
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ViViDboarder said:
Cool. Thanks for all the replies. I just flashed the latest Cognition beta for him yesterday actually. He's so much happier. Haha.
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Make sure he reads up on disabling la fix before he flashes another rom
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I was gonna say perseption. Its really the most captivate friendly of the ports for other galaxy s phones. You get the reorient kernel with overclock undervoult, universal lagfix, clockwork mod instead of 2e recovery, and you get working bluetooth audio, normal batery life, multiple fonts, password/pin number/pattern security, other things i forgot.
Axura looks amazing but noone will answer my questios about bugs. And there is no known issues listing.
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Dani897 said:
I was gonna say perseption. Its really the most captivate friendly of the ports for other galaxy s phones. You get the reorient kernel with overclock undervoult, universal lagfix, clockwork mod instead of 2e recovery, and you get working bluetooth audio, normal batery life, multiple fonts, password/pin number/pattern security, other things i forgot.
Axura looks amazing but noone will answer my questios about bugs. And there is no known issues listing.
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Axuara us a vibrant rom, you will not get vms notifications unless you use google voice
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how stable is 2.2 for captivate?

Hi all, I have been trying to read through the forums and get up-to-date with respect to the latest captivate roms. How stable are the froyo ones? I am not a huge fan of the touchwiz ui and would definately prefer some of the vanilla experience found on my nexus one. Do any of the roms bring that to the captivate? Any general advice I should be aware of? thanks.

The only advice I can give you is to follow the rules and post these types of questions in the Captivate General forum, or in a ROM's own thread, this is the development forum.

ah, my mistake. Perhaps an admin can help move it. Sorry

Very stable if you stick with Cognition.
Moderately to very stable if you stick with an i9000 ROM. A few known issues but many use it
Beta and still needs more of their genius power if you go with Cyanogen. I can't wait for them to finish this
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Froyo has been stable for me in both versions JI6 and JJ4. This is before I flashed Cognition. JJ4 is a lot less buggy and a bit faster, but both are noticeably slower than JH7. I still kept them installed because of all the extras that are only available on Froyo, and the overall speed was good enough to be usable. Cognition adds more speed, and several extra nice touches, but even before that Froyo was good enough for me. I'd never go back to JH7.

Actually I've had more problems with Cognition than with the i9000 roms. Of course I haven't used Cog since I found the i9000 roms. They are more like stock Android than the Captivate roms with the ATT crap removed.
The only problem I've had with the i9000 roms is with the alpha and early beta versions. They are just as stable as any other rom.

fatttire said:
Very stable if you stick with Cognition.
Moderately to very stable if you stick with an i9000 ROM. A few known issues but many use it
Beta and still needs more of their genius power if you go with Cyanogen. I can't wait for them to finish this
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I have tried both extensively and both were stable but i9000 gives me the features I want plus it feels faster than any Cognition.

shaolin95 said:
I have tried both extensively and both were stable but i9000 gives me the features I want plus it feels faster than any Cognition.
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+1 ......

this is a Q&A type post..

scales11 said:
Hi all, I have been trying to read through the forums and get up-to-date with respect to the latest captivate roms. How stable are the froyo ones? I am not a huge fan of the touchwiz ui and would definately prefer some of the vanilla experience found on my nexus one. Do any of the roms bring that to the captivate? Any general advice I should be aware of? thanks.
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Wrong forum, but I will give my 2 cents anyways.
Best ROM I used is Axura beta1 with the JPP modem. You have to follow the directions on install to a "T", but it is well worth it as it is by far the fastest and cleanest ROM I have ever used. Cognition is also a great ROM, I just prefer Axura.

Flash rom for the first time

Hi, i want to flash my first rom, which one is the more stable, fast and trusted for hard everyday use?? I use my phone 80% for work, thanks
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radioman38 said:
Hi, i want to flash my first rom, which one is the more stable, fast and trusted for hard everyday use?? I use my phone 80% for work, thanks
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If you use your phone for work and hange no backup flashing roms can be risky. Make sure you read allot prior to flashing. There is no one answer

radioman38 said:
Hi, i want to flash my first rom, which one is the more stable, fast and trusted for hard everyday use?? I use my phone 80% for work, thanks
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I suggest you you a captivate based ROM.. probably Cognition 2.3b8! it is highly stable and totally captivate based! If you want to go furthur than captivate based there are many I9000 based ROMs... I suggest Darkyy's 8.0 ROM with Hardcore's speedmod kernel and UGJL2 Modem...

I've always wondered what is the advantage to a i9000 based ROM?
It seems like people are running into functionality problems, but aren't really getting any additional features...

Mr.Immaculate said:
I've always wondered what is the advantage to a i9000 based ROM?
It seems like people are running into functionality problems, but aren't really getting any additional features...
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That just is not the case. The i9000 roms are built from official froyo release for a galaxy s phone. Re-oriented kernels fix compatibility with the captivate. Performance is vastly improved over stock and our captivate leaked froyo. Look at the development section. There is only one captivate based rom. There are multiple i9000 roms. This is not by random chance.
Everyone can choose what they want running on their phone, or what they are comfortable with. People saying i9000 roms do not improve on anything obviously have never ran a good one

Mr.Immaculate said:
I've always wondered what is the advantage to a i9000 based ROM?
It seems like people are running into functionality problems, but aren't really getting any additional features...
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It's just the opposite.
i9000 ROMs offer:
-Improved speed
-Faster network speeds
-An abundance of themes, mods, etc. in the i9000 section
-No trace of AT&T and their filthy apps
-Android 2.2.1
-We have the kernel source for Froyo for i9000
That's just off the top of my head.

[Q] When to use i9000 ANYTHING on Captivate i897

I bought my Captivate in December, and have since rooted, updated to Froyo through Kies, and even flashed a couple of kernels (currently running Firebird). I log onto and read posts on XDA almost daily, its kind of like my daily newspaper! Anyway, I have never understood how its possible that so many members have an i897 Captivate-based phone, yet is able to run i9000-based modems, kernels and ROMS. I've searched and googled, and can't get a straight answer, maybe my search terms need improvement, I don't know. But, is it possible to have
i9000 ROMS (with a i9000 modem/kernel of course) on our United States i897 Captivate? Or, is it that more members on this forum have i9000 based phones than I thought?

aicirt17 said:
I bought my Captivate in December, and have since rooted, updated to Froyo through Kies, and even flashed a couple of kernels (currently running Firebird). I log onto and read posts on XDA almost daily, its kind of like my daily newspaper! Anyway, I have never understood how its possible that so many members have an i897 Captivate-based phone, yet is able to run i9000-based modems, kernels and ROMS. I've searched and googled, and can't get a straight answer, maybe my search terms need improvement, I don't know. But, is it possible to have
i9000 ROMS (with a i9000 modem/kernel of course) on our United States i897 Captivate? Or, is it that more members on this forum have i9000 based phones than I thought?
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Im just taking a shot here, but i think its because our roms are based off the i9000 roms... (theyre not the same, but theyre in the same class...)

aicirt17 said:
But, is it possible to have
i9000 ROMS (with a i9000 modem/kernel of course) on our United States i897 Captivate?
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Yes. If you flash a stock version of an i9000 ROM then you will have orientation and Home button issues though. That is why there are kernels in the Captivate development section that are based on i9000 source code and reoriented along with other tweaks. You should also take care to read and understand exactly what it is that you are doing before attempting to flash any ROM, especially one made for an extremely similar, yet different, phone.

As I've learned the hard way, make sure to stay in the captivate development section. There are plenty of I9000, roms to pick from that will work fine for your i897. Just make sure to either use the kernel with the rom or pick a reoriented one. Keep in mind there is some call quality loss with the i9000 roms. And most of all, be careful with bootloaders.
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cardassianvol said:
Yes. If you flash a stock version of an i9000 ROM then you will have orientation and Home button issues though. That is why there are kernels in the Captivate development section that are based on i9000 source code and reoriented along with other tweaks. You should also take care to read and understand exactly what it is that you are doing before attempting to flash any ROM, especially one made for an extremely similar, yet different, phone.
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So, I can take my cappy as it is now (stock Froyo, Firebird kernel), and flash an i9000 ROM, making sure to also flash an i9000 modem and kernel (if the ROM doesn't already come with one), and that's it?

Cdub3 said:
As I've learned the hard way, make sure to stay in the captivate development section. There are plenty of I9000, roms to pick from that will work fine for your i897. Just make sure to either use the kernel with the rom or pick a reoriented one. Keep in mind there is some call quality loss with the i9000 roms. And most of all, be careful with bootloaders.
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Bootloaders, the one thing I haven't read up on yet. Think I'll read, read, read, and then read a little more after that. I forgot about the bootloaders. Thanks for the heads up Cdub3!

aicirt17 said:
Bootloaders, the one thing I haven't read up on yet. Think I'll read, read, read, and then read a little more after that. I forgot about the bootloaders. Thanks for the heads up Cdub3!
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u only need to get acquainted with bootloaders if you are planning to jump to a gingerbread ROM other than cyanogenmod7 or miui from 2.1/2.2 ROMs. GB bootloader+2.1/2.2 secondary bootloader=

aicirt17 said:
So, I can take my cappy as it is now (stock Froyo, Firebird kernel), and flash an i9000 ROM, making sure to also flash an i9000 modem and kernel (if the ROM doesn't already come with one), and that's it?
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it must be a REORIENTED kernel in order for it to work. in all honesty, i have found that its better to select any rom from the captivate section rather than using a straight i9000 rom from the i9000 forums. go ahead and try a few out, but you will quickly see why i would suggest getting one of the mature i9000 roms from the captivate section instead. references to front facing camera, lack of haptic feedback on the home key, and other little things will begin to creep up on you. it gets annoying.

aicirt17 said:
So, I can take my cappy as it is now (stock Froyo, Firebird kernel), and flash an i9000 ROM, making sure to also flash an i9000 modem and kernel (if the ROM doesn't already come with one), and that's it?
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You should flash the i9000 ROM and then flash a reoriented i9000 kernel from the Captivate development section and while the modem must be an i9000 modem when using an i9000 based ROM, you should research which modems support your carrier best. I'll assume you are on AT&T and say you need a modem that supports the 850MHz band if you want 3G support everywhere AT&T offers it when you travel inside the US. The standard i9000 modems support the 1900MHz band, which AT&T uses in my area. I'd suggest following the guides in the Captivate Development section though. Most ROMs there have done this work for you. They are almost all based on the official i9000 releases. There is nothing wrong with playing around after you understand the basics though. I run stock i9000 Gingerbread with the i9000 reoriented kernel by xcaliburinhand. Then I tailor it to my liking.

[Q] What are the advantages of Gingerbread over Froyo?

I know this sounds like a stupid question, but bear with me.
When I started flashing custom ROMs, GB was already out, so I never got to try out Froyo. I know the whole deal of "it's newer, they worked out some bugs and it's better". but i want to know:
1) Would I miss anything specially important if I "downgraded" to Froyo?
2) could anyone tell me a few 9000 and 897 based roms that i could try? (I'm not asking "which is best")
3) are there any advantages of running Froyo over GB?
I'm used to flashing and if i decide to give Froyo a try, i would like to flash a few before i settle into any ROM. Thanks.
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Froyo its more stable. Gingerbread is faster and has more features.
A froyo rom to try would be firefly or andromeda.
Gingerbread would be saurom. Kk4 or the jvz
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sepherian said:
Froyo its more stable. Gingerbread is faster and has more features.
A froyo rom to try would be firefly or andromeda.
Gingerbread would be saurom. Kk4 or the jvz
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Thanks for the reply seph!
I have tried numerous GB roms (Fusion, Pinnacle, Illuminance, Fasty, Serendipity, Apex, Darky, Serenity, MaxQ...the list goes on), but I am looking for the ultimate stable ROM, and wanted to try some froyo roms. Thanks for the suggestions.
Edit: When you say that GB is "faster" are you talking about Quadrant or overall usage experience?

kafepuya said:
Thanks for the reply seph!
I have tried numerous GB roms (Fusion, Pinnacle, Illuminance, Fasty, Serendipity, Apex, Darky, Serenity, MaxQ...the list goes on), but I am looking for the ultimate stable ROM, and wanted to try some froyo roms. Thanks for the suggestions.
Edit: When you say that GB is "faster" are you talking about Quadrant or overall usage experience?
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Quadrant means nothing, on any phone -_- so don't start talk about Quadrant. It is faster and looks more polished(GB that is)!

I know Quadrant means nothing, it's just that some people still put some weight on it when determining how fast a ROM behaves. I should have know Sepherian was not talking about Quadrant scores because I seen how involved he is in the Dev sub-forum.
Anyhow, I'm gonna give Andromeda a try, just to satisfy my curiosity. I wanted to try Firefly, but all the download links seem to be dead. Thanks for replying.

sepherian said:
Froyo its more stable. Gingerbread is faster and has more features.
A froyo rom to try would be firefly or andromeda.
Gingerbread would be saurom. Kk4 or the jvz
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I have to argue that after all of this time of being released GB is as stable as froyo (depends on the rom). Look at my sig, I recommend that rom. If you don't like mosaic, look on the i9000 android development forum. There are a bunch of roms there.
I highly suggest using GB over Froyo. GB is faster, has more features, far more development (Froyo is dead development wise), and much more options. Froyo has absolutely no advantages over GB that I can think of

^^Yeah.... i hear mosaic is decent
On a serious note, its all subjective...
If you want to try firefly though...there is a working link in the last 2 or so pages in the thread if you wanna give that a go.

F U tapalk!!!!!!!

kafepuya said:
...Anyhow, I'm gonna give Andromeda a try, just to satisfy my curiosity....
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JFYI...I had been trying several different ROMS, and found myself constantly updating. Got tired of it. I posted to ask about a 'stable' rom, and got most feedback that Andromeda 3 was the way to go.
That has been months ago, maybe over a year. I installed that and have been good to go. Haven't reloaded since.
I have had some problems with lockups, and slow running lately. Was considering reloading Andromeda. But I am thinking my problem is with two things: on the lockup, a specific app (Blue Tooth app for external GPS...although it had been working for a long time); and I abuse the phone with just too many apps installed.
I can't compare to the latest GB ROMS, as I've been on this for so long.

For me (on Rogers stock ROMS) I found that GB looked nicer than Froyo, was less laggy and gave me superior battery life.
Someone earlier mentioned that Froyo was more stable but for me the only difference was the occasional sleep death on GB (never happened on Froyo).