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How safe is data on MicroSD/SDHC?

Every once in a while I'm having the same sort of problem whith my storage card, whether it's MiniSD, MicroSD or SDHC. To be more precise some/all files disappear leaving nothing but some bloody FILE*.CHK files, which seem to be completely useless. I did some google-search and there seems to be no practical way of retrieving the lost data.
I'm curious: why is it happening in the first place and has anyone been successful in combatting this issue? (don't tell me about backups )

I have yet to have a problem with the mem card in my Kaiser. it is a 6Gb Sandisk. Do you have an off-brand?
My old HTC Sable had issues like you describe...

arent .chk files left over by scandisk on a windows box?
this could be due to not ejecting the hardware before removing it from the pc!
under what circumstances are you experiencing this

Yes when combatting this issue I find that handguns are useless and shotguns are all the rage. When trying to do the official combat I like to taunt the problem a bit with the pistol (which just makes it mad) and then go all out with the shot gun. It's always good to have someone else at your side with a missle launcher or something, ya know, for the hardcore combat.

.CHK files are recovered file fragments from Scandisk. I would try a low level format of your SD card and then reformat as FAT32 (for the love of ____, do not use NTFS). NTFS is not designed for removable media and will give you nothing but headaches.

How do you low level an SD card. You only really hear about that with SCSI drives now days, Or do you mean a full format?

im not sure that the post that says dont format ur sd card as ntfs is accurate, while it may be true that a windows mobile device will probably not recognise this disc at all, i use an sd card formatted as ntfs in a laptop with no problems!
try hdtune @ www.hdtune.com/ this might be useful!

ChumleyEX said:
How do you low level an SD card. You only really hear about that with SCSI drives now days, Or do you mean a full format?
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You can use an SD card reader with a PC and use a program such as Boot/Nuke to do a DoD-certified erase of the contents.
andaroo said:
im not sure that the post that says dont format ur sd card as ntfs is accurate, while it may be true that a windows mobile device will probably not recognise this disc at all, i use an sd card formatted as ntfs in a laptop with no problems!
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You can format removable media with NTFS, but you need to be extremely careful since NTFS is constantly caching data from the drive. Unless you disable write-back caching or eject the card each time prior to removing it (which cannot be done on a phone), you run a high risk of corrupting the data on it.

The problem with NTFS on removable media seems to be a windows issue. Not sure if that is windows mobile as well but it also seems to be fixed in a service pack. If I were having problems I wouldn't be using something with user rights and permissions on a device that does nothing with that.

motocrossmann said:
I have yet to have a problem with the mem card in my Kaiser. it is a 6Gb Sandisk. Do you have an off-brand?
My old HTC Sable had issues like you describe...
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It's Sandisk SDHC 4GB

This is why I released my new software SD Sync Any Kaiser users tried it already? Currently only One way Sync (PPC -> Desktop) happens..
Regards,
Carty..

andaroo said:
arent .chk files left over by scandisk on a windows box?
this could be due to not ejecting the hardware before removing it from the pc!
under what circumstances are you experiencing this
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Forgot to mention when trying to fix this I used the windows disc-check utility, but initially problem started after I installed one of the games (Tomb Rider I think) and the battery power was down to 2-3% when I turned my Kaiser off. I couldn't access the programm files folder from ppc, and it was empty when I opened it on pc...except there was tombrider.exe left...

NotATreoFan said:
.CHK files are recovered file fragments from Scandisk. I would try a low level format of your SD card and then reformat as FAT32 (for the love of ____, do not use NTFS). NTFS is not designed for removable media and will give you nothing but headaches.
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Hmmm, interestingly it doesn't display the file system in the properties menu like it would for the hard drives... but I'm pretty sure I didn't format the card...unless was formatted NTFS when first inserted in a device...

ChumleyEX said:
Yes when combatting this issue I find that handguns are useless and shotguns are all the rage. When trying to do the official combat I like to taunt the problem a bit with the pistol (which just makes it mad) and then go all out with the shot gun. It's always good to have someone else at your side with a missle launcher or something, ya know, for the hardcore combat.
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Great job that you know all this stuff...must have used it alot coz you sound quite like a specialist
You might have forgotten to mention granades - there are different types of them like smoke granades or even those which can kill (OMG!) someone...that kind of stuff...

User X said:
Hmmm, interestingly it doesn't display the file system in the properties menu like it would for the hard drives... but I'm pretty sure I didn't format the card...unless was formatted NTFS when first inserted in a device...
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If you didn't format it, then it would be FAT32 formatted by default.

Extensive application in MicroSD
User X said:
Forgot to mention when trying to fix this I used the windows disc-check utility, but initially problem started after I installed one of the games (Tomb Rider I think) and the battery power was down to 2-3% when I turned my Kaiser off. I couldn't access the programm files folder from ppc, and it was empty when I opened it on pc...except there was tombrider.exe left...
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You installed the games in the MicroSD, right?
I experienced it twice, sorted out that it happens when I'm using an application that installed in the MicroSD and then turned the device off. The strange thing that it is only occurred when using a large sized and resource extensive application (especially games), it doesn't happen when using light application such as YahooGo!, MapKing, etc. I end up to install all apps in main memory, and lived peacefully (finger crossed)
I hoped someone could explain why this happen, even better cured it
Regards,
Jeffry

Saving data from *.CHK
User X said:
Every once in a while I'm having the same sort of problem whith my storage card, whether it's MiniSD, MicroSD or SDHC. To be more precise some/all files disappear leaving nothing but some bloody FILE*.CHK files, which seem to be completely useless. I did some google-search and there seems to be no practical way of retrieving the lost data.
I'm curious: why is it happening in the first place and has anyone been successful in combatting this issue? (don't tell me about backups )
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Actually you still can save your files, it still there just with mixed up name and extention
1. Sort the file by it's file size, you could get an idea what file it was by it's size
2. Change the file extention according to what you think it supposed to be judging by its size, ie:
small file to *.txt and open it with notepad, read what's in it and change it to what it's supposed to be .pwi, .xls, etc
2 - 6 MB files to *.mp3
etc
I know it's painful especially with my 2GB data, also you cannot saved your application this way, but I saved my most recent and important data this way, for the rest I just have to satisfy with my 1 month old backup
If anyone could suggest better way, pleaseee let me know

Just happen again
[email protected]!!! me and my big mouth... it just happen again this morning, same thing, install app in storage card, device turned off and wham!
But this time I did some googling and found this utility really helpfull
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
Well, anyone could explain what caused it and how to prevent it?
Any information will be appreciated
Thanks

jeffry_p said:
You installed the games in the MicroSD, right?
I experienced it twice, sorted out that it happens when I'm using an application that installed in the MicroSD and then turned the device off. The strange thing that it is only occurred when using a large sized and resource extensive application (especially games)...
Jeffry
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Yes mate! Sounds very much like what happened here - after intstalling Tomb Rider (4-6MB) in the MicroSD I launched it and then soft reset - my program files vanished...And I dont think I could do anything about that, the .CHK files I got after running the checkdisc utility were all the same size - 32kb, something to do with the cluster size I think...
I guess the question of the cause and the way to prevent it remains open...

Bump
No one can help?
Anyone also experienced this problem? Please tell us your experience, who know we could sort out something
Thanks

Dell Inspiron 1520 with Vista

First, I was just wondering if anyone else uses this same notebook. Also, if you do, do you ever have any memory errors?

my sister has the similar one she has the 1525...wut seems to be the problem?

I literally get daily blue screen errors, all related to memory issues, and I actually just found out that blue screens in general are due to a memory failure. I've been trying to pinpoint the issue, hardware or OS? So, I was just wondering if anyone else has had similar problems.
I took it apart yesterday to find Dell installed Samsung memory, which I was hoping was the issue, then I could easily fix it.

sounds very much like a periodic defect mem module
memtest86 can do a pretty solid test and verify if the hardware is defect

Rudegar said:
sounds very much like a periodic defect mem module
memtest86 can do a pretty solid test and verify if the hardware is defect
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Thanks for the tip! Gave it a try by burning the .iso file to CD-R and boot with it, but my notebook is so bad it failed to start! But I only tried the original file.

it can be run from a floppy too if your laptop have that
but if your laptop is soo unstable it cant start
i doubt it's a software issue as windows is not started
at the time a laptop have to boot from a cd or floppy or just it's hd

Rudegar said:
it can be run from a floppy too if your laptop have that
but if your laptop is soo unstable it cant start
i doubt it's a software issue as windows is not started
at the time a laptop have to boot from a cd or floppy or just it's hd
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Dang it! You think I set it up wrong? I only burned the iso file and chose the CD drive bootup. Ive had a few problems in the last week with it starting up. But it only started after I did the windows updates, which I heard were messed up to begin with. But right now im running the Dell diagnostics and so far no errors, and im running all possible tests.
Also, whats your opinion for internet security, for the most reliable and stable, mainly for Vista?

the bsod as u've heard, can u post ur error # so that i can better troubleshoot u, thanks ...there r various memory failures including; UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME, KERNEL_STACK_INPAGE_ERROR and Physical Memory Dump...as the few.

TheChampJT said:
Also, whats your opinion for internet security, for the most reliable and stable, mainly for Vista?
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i use avg, avast, and others and comodo for my firewall plus windows firewall too

rico002 said:
the bsod as u've heard, can u post ur error # so that i can better troubleshoot u, thanks ...there r various memory failures including; UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME, KERNEL_STACK_INPAGE_ERROR and Physical Memory Dump...as the few.
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Currently I have a test running which says it will run for at least another hour. But, off the top of my head, once I recieved a Kernel error which im told is some difficulty in hardware communication, think there were 2 different mem page errors, and the memory is dumped during all crashes.
Once im done testing ill post the error codes.
Forgot to mention that i hadthe kernel error a few weeks back, since then ive done numerous restores and reinstalled vista twice, first time i overwrote vista and the second was a reformat with a fresh install.

vista is very unstable on laptops or computer that dont provide the necessary specs. but have u considered goin back to xp. and how long have u had the comp for?

32 bit to 64 bit

Hey everybody. I respect a lot of the information I get from this site and have come to realize that a majority of posters posses information beyond a simple cell phone. So based on that I ask this: what are the real world differences of using a windows vista 64 bit machine as opposed to its 32 bit counterpart? I'm helping my brother buy a new laptop and he wants to go 64 bit. I have never really looked into it as everything I have ever needed was on my 32 bit machine. What im wondering is how it affects the simple programs on the machine...itunes, firefox, thunderbird, etc. All free programs. I know that most software has to be optimized or created for a 64 bit OS, but I also have the understanding that it will run 32 bit programs and plug ins. This also carries over to certain VPN clients and their compatibility with the machine as well. So basically, will having a 64 bit hinder him in anyways or is it something that should be ok, especially as the trend is to move towards these 64 bit systems?
I appreciate the help guys.
thanks,
AJ

I just got my new HP yesterday which has x64, and I haven't seen a difference yet. The only thing that has happened was iTunes crashed twice in a row. But it has run perfect since then. As for getting it on a laptop, I don't think it would be such a good idea. A laptop, unless you spen a lot of money or build one, isn't as powerful as a desktop, and you may have problems. My Inspiron constantly crashes with x32.

it all depends on the programms your gonna run! if its stuff like firefox and the other things you mention then there is no point going for 64bit systems as of yet!
unless your gonna do stuff like 'data mining' or the software is designed for 64bit CPUs. its do with the precision of represented floating point data, you might get cleverly programmed software that will run 2 32bit codes parralell on a 64bit processor (doubt it).
technically speaking a wider bus width means higher data throughput rates but like i said the sofware has to take advantage
i might be talking total crap tho!

My experience
I've got a desktop PC running Vista64, and an HTPC running Vista32 (which I originally built to run Vista64). This is just my personal experiences!
The HTPC was rock solid on both Vista32 and Vista64. I was able to run every application I tried on both systems as 64 is able to run 32 processes and programs quite happily and with no noticable slow down. The only issue I had is that 64bit programs require 64bit plug-ins and codecs. In particular I was using Vista Media Centre 24/7 and this is a 64bit program, but most of the freeware plug-ins for it were written for Vista32 so didn't work. Also, Media Player is another 64bit program so most visualisations (designed for XP and Vista32) didn't work.
Since wiping the drive and reinstalling Vista32 all the plug-ins I wanted to use have worked. I find it annoying knowing that not all the 4Gb of RAM inside the PC is being used, but in reality I never notice the difference.
My gaming PC has been running Vista64 since I first built in December 07. I've never had an issue with it, I don't think I've ever seen a blue screen, and no program I've tried to install has refused. You have to make sure you select 64bit for your ATI drivers (and I guess nVidia too) and your codecs that you want to use with Media Player but beyond that day-to-day usage is no different.
From using the two, the only difference is one tops out at 3Gb usable RAM and one doesn't! Ask yourself if you are ever going to use more than 3Gb. On a laptop for light use, I'd say probably not. On a desktop PC for heavy gaming/applications I'd say it's something worth considering.

also old windows3.11 16bit programs will not run on 64bit os
they work on 32bit but doubt too many people use those anymore

Rudegar said:
also old windows3.11 16bit programs will not run on 64bit os
they work on 32bit but doubt too many people use those anymore
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compatibility mode doesn't work? plus I was reading something the other day that said Microsoft released software that makes running older applications easier.
I would say go 64bit, the more people who uses 64bit is the faster the transition. and the faster we'll see mainstream computers with 16gb!

[Q] Any Galaxy S Mac users?

Coming from Nexus one where it was no issues with installing ROMs. However life is not as easy with my SGS.
I'm using VMWare on my mac to use programs that are only for PC. My issue is getting the SGS to even show up in VMW. Anyone with some mac experience (I'm a couple of month old mac user after 15 years on PC) Who has made this working So I can start ODIN and get back to 2.2.
Kind regards
Frewys

MAC = fancy closed source Linux
anyways in VMware you have the option to ADD a USB device to your VMware machine, once you do that you can MAP the USB on the VM machine to the phsyical USB port where the SGS is connected to

Fancy, nice looking. I was curious and bored of PC.
This sounds interesting. I get the popup asking me to which machine to connect it to. But then absolutly nothing.. No missing drivers or anything in Device manager.
Do you have a link where to read more? looking around on VMWares sight is of course an option.. unless you can point me in the direction.
Kind regards
Fredrik
EDIT. Looking over VMWares sight didn't really give some help. So I'm still where I started. I even tried to disable the USB 2.0 since there where apparently some instances where it didn't work but in the end still no go.

Eh. Have you installed sgs drivers in virtual machine yet? Easiest is to install kies
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Apple being notoriously strict on following the USB standard to the T might be an issue, I don't even think VMware gets around this but I could easily be wrong since it is software that is detecting hardware but I know people that have problems with the SGS that haven't been cleared up with VMware. I think they do this so customers are more likely to buy Apple branded products and they get their mega premium due to a lack of competition that their comps will support.
So, what happens that is applicable to you here, is that the device doesn't get recognized to begin with and Samsung (assuming they test on Macs at all) sees this at some point and says F it, it's not worth our time...possibly even under the belief that all mac users would want iPhone anyways.
PS, I don't consider this, nor am I trying to spread, FUD. That's just what I've seen from other Mac/PC device intermingling in other areas and part of the reason why many users can't charge their iPads on their computers.

I setup a small Windows XP install on Boot Camp. I already had it so I can play Starcraft 2 since it runs like ass in Mac but worked out perfectly for my phone too.

You could try installing the Android SDK.
I have installed Eclipse and the Android SDKs on my Macbook and use ADB to control my phone (debug mode turned on in the phone). That's the way I have developed and debug my Android apps.
I also have Parallels installed to use the Bootcamp partition from Mac OS X. I found I could only get Kies to work (USB debugging turned off again) when re-booting into Bootcamp, not via Parallels, so I guess Samsung is doing something funny at a low level USB driver level, which neither Parallels or VMWare support.

Thanks for all the reply guys!
@ickyboo, alovell83 Yes. Installed Kies. Installed separate drivers. No effect. It is not even in device manager list.
@decepticon The problem for me with bootcamp is to my knowledge (like I said new to Mac) they don't allow bootcamp on a partition HDD. Maybe I'm just "PC" and don't really need to make extra partitions to save time in case of need to reinstall (saving all music. images, movies etc on "D" partition). Enlighten me. Come to think of it. I could remove the extra partition install the bootcamp and THEN remake the partition?
(of topic. How much better FPS do u get on bootcamp compared to native mac? I ran it on my 2010 MacBook Pro 17" and have to lover the the settings pretty much to lowest settings to get playable frame rate)
@shawnfr that is interesting!! So I can use the bootcamp partion as a source in virtual machine!? Sounds sweet! Know if it is only possible in parallels? yea looks like there is something going on With the USB thing on the Samsung.. shame..
So After getting rid of all my PCs I had to use my fathers to finally flash the ROM. A LOT easier!!

frewys said:
@decepticon The problem for me with bootcamp is to my knowledge (like I said new to Mac) they don't allow bootcamp on a partition HDD. Maybe I'm just "PC" and don't really need to make extra partitions to save time in case of need to reinstall (saving all music. images, movies etc on "D" partition). Enlighten me. Come to think of it. I could remove the extra partition install the bootcamp and THEN remake the partition?
(of topic. How much better FPS do u get on bootcamp compared to native mac? I ran it on my 2010 MacBook Pro 17" and have to lover the the settings pretty much to lowest settings to get playable frame rate)
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If you already have a spare partition then you can use it. Just run through the Boot Camp setup and it will walk you through it. You can read your Mac partition in Windows but it's read only to protect it from any Windows virus.
I haven't checked FPS because it runs so bad on my 2007 Macbook Pro but in Windows I get a noticeable improvement due to the newest nVidia drivers in Windows. Sadly Apple won't allow hardware providers to release drivers directly for Mac.

That is just it. I get this cryptic error that i googled and to my understanding it cannot install on a partitioned disk. Right now I'm copying my entire drive to an external so that I can remove the partition and copy it back after hopefully getting the bootcamp up and running.
No I know about that whole driver fiasco for Mac. They are waaaaay behind windows on the graphdrivers... But thankfully steam seems to put some sense in Jobes.
Coming from Windows I think that the virus thing is exaggerated.. I had ONE virus of negligence during 15 years of PC. But don't trust common sense to all other million PC users

frewys said:
That is just it. I get this cryptic error that i googled and to my understanding it cannot install on a partitioned disk. Right now I'm copying my entire drive to an external so that I can remove the partition and copy it back after hopefully getting the bootcamp up and running.
No I know about that whole driver fiasco for Mac. They are waaaaay behind windows on the graphdrivers... But thankfully steam seems to put some sense in Jobes.
Coming from Windows I think that the virus thing is exaggerated.. I had ONE virus of negligence during 15 years of PC. But don't trust common sense to all other million PC users
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I don't know if it's relevant for newer MBPs but I did get a video update that says it solves issues with SC2.
I had some issues with Boot Camp and partition tables at first but I removed them all and did it all through Boot Camp and it worked fine. The virus things is exaggerated but common sense takes a back seat to "see me live on my web cam click here" lol

Been working on this annoying thing for a couple of hours.. Bootcamp is NOT very flexible.. But I found a way to "cheat" it.. I had to remove the second partition. Then make "system" partition the entire drive. THEN I make the Bootcamp partition. And after windows is installed I can repartiton the System and make my second "data" partition!! Messy. But hope it works. Installing windows soon.
The SC2 update didn't do anything for me. But I'm happy to see it.. At least that is a start.. I read it had some effect for some older MacBooks...

Nope.. No luck at all. Giving up for now on BootCamp. I guess I will stick to PCs for my SGS in the future. I dont really have time for gaming anyway so the issue with lack of partitioning is not really worth it

I have not yet had any luck getting my SGS to show up in a Windows 7 VM running on VMWare Fusion.
USB virtualization is a tricky animal. A device has to be enumerated twice - first on the host, then on the guest. I imagine the SGS is having a hard time with the low-level second set config request. This seems fairly typical with high-bandwidth USB devices like PDAs.
When I get to work tomorrow I'm going to try it out against VMWare Server and VMWare Workstation. I might even try Hyper-V just for giggles. Workstation has the ability to disable the set config command. So maybe it will have more luck (doesn't help Mac users though!)

ok. Interesting. Good luck with that

I just realized Mac has VirtualBox to! Anyone tried it? Maybe there is a small difference for the better in this case...

Computer Gurus..Need Help!

I'm thinking it's a virus that I have...my computer has slowed to a crawl and is acting all sorts of messed up...I've pulled the important info I want off of it. Wondering if reformatting and using a Linux OS would help...Considering dual booting windows and linux but wasn't sure if the problems would persist since I think it is a virus...I downloaded AVG anti-virus and comodo cleaning essentials...the computer is just acting WEIRD..won't recognize my wifi half the time, super slow to load...not starting in windows 7 starter...any advice is appreciated.

If you can start it in safe mode you can then go to start menu / accessories and choose run. Type msconfig into box that appears then press your keyboards enter key.
It will open a window with a few tabs, go to the one that says startup and you will see a list of programs windows runs at startup.
Untick those you're not sure are things you installed, malware and viruses often show up with a random name made of letters for example kwge.exe if you see weird names like that untick them then click save and ok buttons and reboot.
If you have a nasty program affecting pc its common for it to try starting up at boot time.
Another option is download malwarebytes malware scanner but you need pc able to start up to do these things even if only in safe mode.
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mistermentality said:
If you can start it in safe mode you can then go to start menu / accessories and choose run. Type msconfig into box that appears then press your keyboards enter key.
It will open a window with a few tabs, go to the one that says startup and you will see a list of programs windows runs at startup.
Untick those you're not sure are things you installed, malware and viruses often show up with a random name made of letters for example kwge.exe if you see weird names like that untick them then click save and ok buttons and reboot.
If you have a nasty program affecting pc its common for it to try starting up at boot time.
Another option is download malwarebytes malware scanner but you need pc able to start up to do these things even if only in safe mode.
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Thank you...the computer will start up the issue is that I will get about 80-90% done installing an anti-virus or using the Comodo Clean up and it will restart...thinking the virus maybe blocking it from using an application like that...I want to run Jolicloud or another Linux based OS if you know any made for netbooks. It will go into startup repair when it restarts and won't finish the startup repair deal

So something is seriously wrong with my computer...every anti virus/cleaning program has frozen and gone to not responding...AVG Anti Virus, Comodo Cleaning Essentials and now Malwarebytes Anti Malware...this is getting ridiculous...how I reformat this piece of **** and get a non-Windows OS on here? I have Jolicloud on my SD card.

semperfidoordie said:
So something is seriously wrong with my computer...every anti virus/cleaning program has frozen and gone to not responding...AVG Anti Virus, Comodo Cleaning Essentials and now Malwarebytes Anti Malware...this is getting ridiculous
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Google a program called rkill from bleepingcomputers.com, download this program and run it, it will stop most processes when it's done, allowing you to run Malwarebytes.
Good luck.
Sent from a pay phone, and yes I DID search before posting

Trying it now...just wondering if a new laptop/netbook would be a better idea...I think the HDD in this one is dead from everything I've read online...just want a Ubuntu or other Linux OS laptop I'm done f_ing with windows lol

Tried installing Julicloud (Ubuntu) got it to load after restart to dual boot menu...selected jolicloud go to about 95 or 96% and it restarted and came up with the message "No init found. Try passing init=bootarg. Busybox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-lubuntutii) built-in shell (ash) Enter help for a list of built in commands.
(initramfs)
help???

That's sounds more like a hardware issue because your problems are still there even after formatting.

Try to run a short dst then a long dst. Look up on google on how to get there for your computer. To me this sounds like a software issue more then anything else but try it. If either one fails your hdd is really close to dead. I just went through a short dst failure on my hdd so to me it doesn't sound like hardware but dot your i's and cross your t's kinda thing. If both pass then its most deffinitly software. Try an online antivirus toll so that there is nothing to install. If you are still having issues and your sure its a virus and you want to go to linux then write zeros to your hdd. Basically its a massive reformat. Reformatting can sometimes leave the the virus on the sector of a hdd and still make your computer run like ****. But writing zeros is basically a very thorough format that takes a bit of time and usally formats it quite a number of times.
Or go an easier root buy a new hdd, take out the old one put in the new one in the computer and install jolicloud and destroy the hdd then through it away and be done with it.
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semperfidoordie said:
Tried installing Julicloud (Ubuntu) got it to load after restart to dual boot menu...selected jolicloud go to about 95 or 96% and it restarted and came up with the message "No init found. Try passing init=bootarg. Busybox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-lubuntutii) built-in shell (ash) Enter help for a list of built in commands.
(initramfs)
help???
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Not used that myself but did a google search and found someone who had the same problem and blogged about how to fix it.
The page is http://codeabout.wordpress.com/2011/03/05/fix-your-non-bootable-linux-partition/ hope it is of some use.
Basically it would appear that by installing a second os you have made the boot sector unusable for the second one. Some netbooks allow you to select a specific partition to boot from, if yours does you can tell it to boot from the linux one.
Its usually done by pressing a function key before it tries booting but most netbooks don't allow it so just mentioning it in case yours does. Keys differ depending on model but typically is f1 though one was the del key.
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Damn I guess I will start looking at HDD's mine pretty much instantly failed the short DST test. Any advice on upgrading netbook memory while I'm in there? I know how to take it apart and all just don't know a lot about upgrading these little things.

Man things go from bad to worse lol...tried to run chkdsk and now everyone it boots it boots running chkdsk and freezes after 6% and having quite a few bad sectors. Is there a way to bypass this and get it to start with command prompt? If I buy a new HD could I install a Linux OS right off the bat and not mess with windows? Also is there any definitive way to tell without a doubt it is the HD?

Yes you can switch hdds and see if the problem still occurs... if not then the problem is fixed.

That's a good point. I am considering buying a new laptop and starting fresh...wish you could build one like you build a desktop. I want one built the way I want it running on a Linux OS. Don't really want to waste the money buying a new computer and paying for Windows and not use it.

Hmm... Have you tried to install Ubuntu? I recommend you use Wubi to install and dual boot it with some dead simple automated repartioning
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semperfidoordie said:
That's a good point. I am considering buying a new laptop and starting fresh...wish you could build one like you build a desktop. I want one built the way I want it running on a Linux OS. Don't really want to waste the money buying a new computer and paying for Windows and not use it.
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Not sure if that's available there, but here we get pcs with no OS or DOS, and then you can install what you want
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This is what I would do, if I were you...
First and foremost, make sure nothing is wrong with the hardware itself. The most common issues are with the HDs, as they tend to break first...
Schedule a diskcheck from the disk properties, and make sure to check the surface for errors also.
Then I would start the hunt for the virus, if it exists. Bear in mind that formatting the disk and installing another OS does NOT eliminate some virus types, like rootkits, so you have to make sure that the disk is clean before doing anything.
For a quick test, I always download a portable version of Superantispyware and do a smart scan. Then I'll download from Malwarebytes and do the same.
You may or may not solve your problem with the above. In case you don't, keep reading...
The most secure and guaranteed way of virus checking (and cleaning) is with a Rescue CD or Usb key. Download yumi, it lets you make a multiboot usb key with multiple rescue cds. Don't worry about finding the cds, it has the option of doing it for you, from inside the utility. I will go for Avira and Kaspersky, make a boot usb key and boot my pc from it to check for viruses, particularly rootkits. You can also try with other companies, if you cannot find any viruses with Avira and Kaspersky, like Panda or F-Secure...

shravbits said:
Hmm... Have you tried to install Ubuntu? I recommend you use Wubi to install and dual boot it with some dead simple automated repartioning
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I have tried but I get an error when trying to boot using Jolicloud (a netbook version of Ubuntu) I may a different version though.
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Not sure if that's available there, but here we get pcs with no OS or DOS, and then you can install what you want
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That's pretty cool. The computers are out there it's just finding a company that will let you build one that way haha. Everyone seems to have a hard on for Windows crap.
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This is what I would do, if I were you...
First and foremost, make sure nothing is wrong with the hardware itself. The most common issues are with the HDs, as they tend to break first...
Schedule a diskcheck from the disk properties, and make sure to check the surface for errors also.
Then I would start the hunt for the virus, if it exists. Bear in mind that formatting the disk and installing another OS does NOT eliminate some virus types, like rootkits, so you have to make sure that the disk is clean before doing anything.
For a quick test, I always download a portable version of Superantispyware and do a smart scan. Then I'll download from Malwarebytes and do the same.
You may or may not solve your problem with the above. In case you don't, keep reading...
The most secure and guaranteed way of virus checking (and cleaning) is with a Rescue CD or Usb key. Download yumi, it lets you make a multiboot usb key with multiple rescue cds. Don't worry about finding the cds, it has the option of doing it for you, from inside the utility. I will go for Avira and Kaspersky, make a boot usb key and boot my pc from it to check for viruses, particularly rootkits. You can also try with other companies, if you cannot find any viruses with Avira and Kaspersky, like Panda or F-Secure...
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I have downloaded Malwarebytes, Comodo Cleaning Essentials and AVG. None of which have been able to complete a scan the computer will always freeze up and shut itself off before they get the opportunity to. I have finally been patient enough to let chkdsk run though and so far although it's taking forever it has been finding bad sectors, replaced a bunch of bad clusters and what not. I am hoping when this finally finishes it may function somewhat more normally.

If your hdd failed the short dst then your hdd is pretty much gone, dead, about to be taken off life support, and it needs to be replaced. Which explains why its failing to install programs, jolicloud and would seem like a virus.
Its a dying hdd. Go to bestbuy, newegg, microcenter, etc and buy a 2.5" hdd. Then install it into your netbook. Once you replace your hdd you will need to install a os as there will be nothing for the netbook to boot up. So choose jolicloud, ubuntu, win7 or what not and you will be good to go.
Once you done all that buy a 2.5" housing for the hdd. Basically this will make the internal hdd into an external hdd and plus it in via usb and copy all your files to the new one.
The only thing you can do for a short dst failure is to replace your hdd. Nothing else will work. Its only allowed matter of time before it can't even be accessed.
Ps if you never removed a hdd from a netbook or laptop its a little bit different from a desktop. You need to remove the brackets from the old hdd and put them on the new one so you can install it.
Also the checkdisk repairing sectors will not fix a short dst failure. That is a hardware issue. All you are doing is waisting time. Your computer is crashing and restarting its self cause the hdd is having issues trying to process the info on a hardware level, not software.
If you manage to repair all the sectors it won't mean anything. Cause if you try to still do any installs (mine going through a short dst allowed installs btw) it may still fail and any intense task will cause it to crash. And by intense i mean any multitasking could crash it. Your hdd is very unstable and os use a lot of the hdd functions. So when you make it an external to get the files off it becomes more stable because of the less work from the os allowing you to remove your files.
I know its not what you want to hear but the truth is hard to take at times.
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semperfidoordie said:
That's a good point. I am considering buying a new laptop and starting fresh...wish you could build one like you build a desktop. I want one built the way I want it running on a Linux OS. Don't really want to waste the money buying a new computer and paying for Windows and not use it.
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You can semi-build your own by going to the brands website (like alien, hp) and get one custom fitted for you. But you will still be stuck with windows7 at that point you can keep the serial codes and use them on your netbook to get a different verision other then starter on that if you decide to replace the hdd and get a new laptop. Or hold on to it if it turns out that you don't like linux on your laptop. Linux is not meant for everyone. And its nice to have a safety net just in case.
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