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[Q] titanium backup

i was really interested in installing a new rom, specifically cognition, and i did, but i figured since i just got my captivate and all my media was on my sd card and i barely installed any apps, i would just skip the titanium backup step. I definitely was able to get the new rom, but i think i may have messed up something big, even flashing back to stock didnt help. I just want to know exactly how important titanium backup is and what it really does other than save a few settings and apps.
If you want me to elaborate on what i messed up just ask

arsenalbreak said:
i was really interested in installing a new rom, specifically cognition, and i did, but i figured since i just got my captivate and all my media was on my sd card and i barely installed any apps, i would just skip the titanium backup step. I definitely was able to get the new rom, but i think i may have messed up something big, even flashing back to stock didnt help. I just want to know exactly how important titanium backup is and what it really does other than save a few settings and apps.
If you want me to elaborate on what i messed up just ask
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You are asking for help so don't you think telling what happened is important. Tibu backs up your apps and data. If you use it don't select system data because that will screw stuff up. Its not necessary to use tiny but it is very useful.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.

Skipping TiBu step should not affect your ROM. It only backs up your installed apps with data, so you do not have to reinstall them one by one manually after you flashed.

ok thats exactly what i wanted to know. thanks for clearing it up guys.

Apps backed up in TiB on 2.2.1 roms won't restore to 2.2 roms

I tried a couple of 2.2.1 roms but found I lose signal using them and the browser doesn't work quite right. when I try going back to 2.2 the apps don't restore correctly. Some restore. Most don't have their data restored correctly and some don't restore at all. TiB doesn't throw any errors. I've tried many roms and I can restore to any 2.2.1 rom but I have the same problem with any earlier rom. Is there any fix?

k2snowboards88 said:
I tried a couple of 2.2.1 roms but found I lose signal using them and the browser doesn't work quite right. when I try going back to 2.2 the apps don't restore correctly. Some restore. Most don't have their data restored correctly and some don't restore at all. TiB doesn't throw any errors. I've tried many roms and I can restore to any 2.2.1 rom but I have the same problem with any earlier rom. Is there any fix?
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I noticed this as well. I think it is due to the differences in the way the 2 handle program settings. No fix that I am aware

I hope there's a good captivate based 2.2.1 in the future. I'm not willing to give up my app data, but I'm also sick of losing signal ever time I charge my phone. Hopefully there's a new 2.2.1 cap leak soon. Or a TiB update to handle this.

k2snowboards88 said:
I hope there's a good captivate based 2.2.1 in the future. I'm not willing to give up my app data, but I'm also sick of losing signal ever time I charge my phone. Hopefully there's a new 2.2.1 cap leak soon. Or a TiB update to handle this.
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Might be awhile as all the 2.2.1 leaks are i9000 leaks and the Cap is still waiting for the source from 2.2 which we still dont have. I have never had an issue of losing signal when charging.

zelendel said:
Might be awhile as all the 2.2.1 leaks are i9000 leaks and the Cap is still waiting for the source from 2.2 which we still dont have. I have never had an issue of losing signal when charging.
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I've read that there are different physical modems used in some captivates. Some of them can't handle the i9000 modem software. There are a few very long threads on the issue. Unfortunately, all of the devs got the lucky modems, so none of them care about the issue.

A bit late, but I had virtually no problems batch-restoring a TiBu from (over 150 apps) a 2.2.1 ROM to a 2.2 ROM with the experimental 'Migrate' option checked in the preferences. I was even able to restore contacts and dialer history.

GGXtreme said:
A bit late, but I had virtually no problems batch-restoring a TiBu from (over 150 apps) a 2.2.1 ROM to a 2.2 ROM with the experimental 'Migrate' option checked in the preferences. I was even able to restore contacts and dialer history.
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I don't know what's going on for me then, because I've tried that too. It doesn't work for me.

k2snowboards88 said:
I don't know what's going on for me then, because I've tried that too. It doesn't work for me.
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Contacts and dialer history, and alarms can be restored. These are the only two "system" apps I keep backing up and restoring on various 2.2 and 2.2.1 ROMs. But on some ROMs, apps get restored, but not data. And sometimes some apps data is restored, while of others apps isn't.

k2snowboards88 said:
I don't know what's going on for me then, because I've tried that too. It doesn't work for me.
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Hmm, well a bit of an update. It seems to vary from ROM to ROM. I restored a backup from a JPY 2.2.1 ROM (Darky's 8.1) to a Rogers 2.2 ROM (Firefly 1.5) and everything restored perfectly. I later restored the exact same backup to an Armani 2.2 ROM (Andromeda) and while all apps restored successfully, some apps were missing their data. On top of that, restoring LauncherPro backups seems to be sporadic with most ROM's only restoring the homescreens and first dock, others restoring all docks and even internal settings.

[Q] Phone Force Closes, Just Flashed Cog 3.01

Hey guys,
I'm brand new to this stuff, and I've searched the forums to the best of my abilities and I don't see a fix yet.
I just flashed the new Cognition ROM and used Titanium Backup to "restore all apps with data". During this process, it went through my apps one by one, and asked me if I wanted to install them or cancel and not install them. I picked and chose which apps I wanted to keep and which to discard. As an aside, the apps in question were things like games/puzzles for my kid to play with, and games and such that I had downloaded from the Market to try out but forgot to uninstall.
So, after everything was restored, I started to test stuff out, and everything works...except incoming calls. I get the "The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly. please try again. force close"
Is there any fix for this besides going back to stock and retrying the new ROM? If there is a solution to this a link to the thread would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for posting this, I am having the same problem. Any help would be appreciated.
Also, what is the best way to go back to stock?
Rogers I-896

This is for rogers i896 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905042
This is for AT&T i897 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989

mattio781 said:
This is for rogers i896 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905042
This is for AT&T i897 2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
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So I use ODIN to go back to completely stock and try the ROM again, but use the "restore missing apps with data" option?

You should click restore missing apps + data. That should fix it
Sent from my phone

Maybe I'm just picky or don't trust TiBu completely, but I always restore my apps individually. Never had a problem. I've been back and forth between Cognition and darkys ROMs and (of course) stock on my AT&T Cappy.

Yup restore back to stock... and if you had issues with doing a TiBu restore with "Apps and Data" I would recommend just using "Apps Only" option in TiBu.
BUT... I would test the ROM out before doing the restore to ensure it's not a ROM issue first.

If you do not wish to go back to stock, there were quite a few suggestions in the Cog 3.0x thread on this issue. A few people in that thread simply had a bad flash. One just needed to do a good solid reboot to fix it. Another suggestion was to clear the dalvik and cache using ClockWorkMod Recovery (red version). Lastly, lots of people FC'ing with the phone process were experiencing problems due to the ogg files in phone.apk being compressed when they should not be (reportedly) and was fixed by disabling the "Call Status Tone" in settings/call settings/all calls/call status tone. One of these could be your problem.
If you wish to just try again the simple way, it would probably be your best bet to Odin back to stock, do the master clear (it seems to be a topic of debate if this is the best thing to do, but it is mentioned in a few different tutorials), and flash again. Then TiBu to restore your apps+data (as mentioned... no system data, just app data) again.
If you wish to try to fix the problem, one place to start might be a fixed phone.apk in the Cog 3.0x thread in the Development section for Captivate. It is posted by Andrewk_77 somewhere between page 85 and 90, I think (sorry, I've been trying to keep up with the reading of that thread for days in order to head off any problems I may run into with Cog 3 and it's kinda blurring together). Otherwise you'll have to try to search out other solutions in that thread.
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Found that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10685612&postcount=861
I know that they don't seem to be describing the exact same problem, but might be worth a shot.

I reflashed Cog 3.02, didn't use TiBu to restore anything, just set it up myself again. Phone works fine now.
Though I do have a question about flashing back to stock: would I just put the stock ROM (in this case Rogers 2.2) onto the SD, and flash it using CWM? Or do I need to use ODIN, in which case I would get the AT&T ROM? Thanks for helping a newbie out.

[Q] Random Titanium Backup Question...

Sup XDA... first time poster... on/off lurker... just a quick question i was messing with my captivate today trying to load 2.2 on it... kies wasn't working for me so i did a whole lotta messing around with the phone... in the process i backed up my stuff on TB... while trying to restore it, it restored from a previous upgrade i did in dec. i ended up losing most of my text messages, profiles i set up and important memos... anything i can do to restore it or am i screwed...?
I think i accidentally hit the back up user apps instead of user apps+data and restored user apps+data... could that be the reason...?

I don't think that TiBu backs up text messages. I use SMS backup+ on the market for that. It backs it up to my Gmail account. It does this automatically, and has the option to restore if I flash a new ROM.
I read somewhere that TiBu system data back ups can cause issues if you flash a new ROM and try to restore system data from a different ROM. So I have always been afraid of system data in TiBu.
If you back up the apps without the data, then the app will install, but it's a fresh install. That way anything you did in the app is lost. For example if you back up just the app Facebook, when you restore you are not signed in anymore. If you backup app + data, when you restore you are already signed in again. That could be how you lost memos from an app, but Text messages is another animal.
If you are playing with Kies, you should try the custom ROMs. They are extremely easy to install, there's lots of guides, and they run so much better than the 2.2 from Samsung/AT&T.

Don't really think you can do anything at this point to get your stuff back. You should do a nandroid backup before flashing new firmware, though. If the rom you flashed didn't work, or if you couldn't restore something with TB (or forgot to even do a TB backup), you can always roll your phone back to your previous firmware, complete with all your data.

quarlow said:
I don't think that TiBu backs up
If you are playing with Kies, you should try the custom ROMs. They are extremely easy to install, there's lots of guides, and they run so much better than the 2.2 from Samsung/AT&T.
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Agree a ROM is the way to go. Huge improvement over just using a bloated 2.2.

[Q] A NON-wipe ICS rom?

Is there such a rom? I've checked teamhacksung's CM9 Alpha, Doc's Master ICS, Team ICSSGS, Fusion, and WeUI v0.6.6, and they all say to do a full wipe. Performed a search here and Google for any answers, but didn't find any.
I'm currently running Gingerbread 2.3.5 with Corn kernel, and when I upgraded from Froyo, I performed a full wipe. As many of you know, putting everything back on your phone is a major pain if you do not do a proper backup (I thought I backed up everything using Titanium, but apparently I didn't). Anyway, just curious if there is an ICS rom with a non-wipe option (or a super-cool, full of eye-candy Gingerbread rom with non-wipe).
Oh yeah, is Passion v13 Captivate-flashable? Thanks for any info you may have.

aicirt17 said:
Is there such a rom? I've checked teamhacksung's CM9 Alpha, Doc's Master ICS, Team ICSSGS, Fusion, and WeUI v0.6.6, and they all say to do a full wipe. Performed a search here and Google for any answers, but didn't find any.
I'm currently running Gingerbread 2.3.5 with Corn kernel, and when I upgraded from Froyo, I performed a full wipe. As many of you know, putting everything back on your phone is a major pain if you do not do a proper backup (I thought I backed up everything using Titanium, but apparently I didn't). Anyway, just curious if there is an ICS rom with a non-wipe option (or a super-cool, full of eye-candy Gingerbread rom with non-wipe).
Oh yeah, is Passion v13 Captivate-flashable? Thanks for any info you may have.
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You need to do a full wipe on your phone since you're coming from a Gingerbread ROM. You may not delete what's on your sdcard if you want to retain it but as for apps, it will be deleted and so are your contacts, messages, etc.

Yuck. Okay, I figured as much, I was just hoping So, a Nandroid back-up is best, right? NOT Titanium?

aicirt17 said:
Yuck. Okay, I figured as much, I was just hoping So, a Nandroid back-up is best, right? NOT Titanium?
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Yes, Nandroid back-up is good. You could do Titanium Backup as well but a fresh install of the apps would be better. I'm not sure it would work if you backed-up the apps from Gingerbread and install it on ICS, but you could try one app and test it.

aicirt17 said:
Yuck. Okay, I figured as much, I was just hoping So, a Nandroid back-up is best, right? NOT Titanium?
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You can do a A Nandroid, but don't try restoring that on ICS or you will most likely cause a metric ton of problems. Titanium would be the best way to back up and restore your apps and app data. NEVER restore system data.

mrhaley30705 said:
You can do a A Nandroid, but don't try restoring that on ICS or you will most likely cause a metric ton of problems. Titanium would be the best way to back up and restore your apps and app data. NEVER restore system data.
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Yep, forgot to mention that. Just backup your Apps and not your System Data.

Okay, wow, all the reading that I have done and I did NOT know that. No system data. Got it. Thank you both!

CM9 builds when upgrading from previous CM9 builds don't need a full wipe... I'm sure the others are the same... So won't be so bad unless you go between them all...

If you are so concerned with keeping your data and not wanting to go through the "pain" of resetting all your apps and such, you should stay with what you have. Instead, use a launcher with ICS themes to get the look of the ICS.
If you can take some pain and make the jump though, ICS offers a way more slicker OS for your Cappy.
Do not use Nandroid backup to restore your apps... TIBU is the one to use! As others said, the best way is to do a fresh (from the market) reinstall of all your apps and then use TIBU to restore your data for those specific apps only...
Edit: Concider this though while you are looking to upgrade. Most of these ICS roms are in beta stage... this means some bugs and other inconveniences... mind you they are minor but they exist. As the devs get these bugs and other issues addressed and update their roms, they would often require a fresh install (full wipe) to ensure best performance. This means that you will have to occasionally do a full wipe of your phone. It's fun to see the latest and greatest the devs have to offer but it also means that you have to do some "hard" work to enjoy the fruits of their labor... just something for you to think about...

I did not see it mentioned so I'll add. Every ROM that has a "no wipe" update is such because it is only a minor update to the existing ROM and not the whole. Even trying to do so results is a miss match of files and programs so at best you'll get FCs all over there place, at worst bootloops.
ICS, is a huge set of changes, including things google merged or removed. So the data from an app on an older version of android would be trying to send/receive info from a program that does not exist anymore and upon not getting what it wants would FC.
If you don't like having to restore everything, then wait from ICS until you see a few no wipe updates. Aside from SGSICS (since it is pure ASOP, and least likely to have any major changes) they all have a fair amount of developing yet to be done.
Now to the question of which type of backup . A nandroid backup is meant to restore your phone to it's current state (minus any partition changes). Tibu is designed for something like ROM hoping, so it only saves apps and their data. To illustrate an example of how to use both: 1 make backups, 2 load ICS ROM, 3 Tibu restore user apps (and user data only), 4 toy with ROM (be it a few hours or days), 5 you don't like it and want to go back, 6 Odin/Heimdall back to GB (to fix partition sizes), 7 restore nandroid and it's like your trip to ICS never happened.
leaked from my ICS- FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.

cvcduty said:
If you are so concerned with keeping your data and not wanting to go through the "pain" of resetting all your apps and such, you should stay with what you have. Instead, use a launcher with ICS themes to get the look of the ICS.
If you can take some pain and make the jump though, ICS offers a way more slicker OS for your Cappy.
Do not use Nandroid backup to restore your apps... TIBU is the one to use! As others said, the best way is to do a fresh (from the market) reinstall of all your apps and then use TIBU to restore your data for those specific apps only...
Edit: Concider this though while you are looking to upgrade. Most of these ICS roms are in beta stage... this means some bugs and other inconveniences... mind you they are minor but they exist. As the devs get these bugs and other issues addressed and update their roms, they would often require a fresh install (full wipe) to ensure best performance. This means that you will have to occasionally do a full wipe of your phone. It's fun to see the latest and greatest the devs have to offer but it also means that you have to do some "hard" work to enjoy the fruits of their labor... just something for you to think about...
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Cvcduty, you're right about enjoying the fruits of the other devs' labor. If they're willing to put in all that hard work just to keep our Captivates as updated as possible, then the very least I can do is go through 5 minutes of work to flash the roms correctly and in the way the devs intended, and not look for an easier way. I have flashed a couple of times before, I'm just not completely comfortable doing it. But I almost there!
DaNaRkI said:
I did not see it mentioned so I'll add. Every ROM that has a "no wipe" update is such because it is only a minor update to the existing ROM and not the whole. Even trying to do so results is a miss match of files and programs so at best you'll get FCs all over there place, at worst bootloops.
ICS, is a huge set of changes, including things google merged or removed. So the data from an app on an older version of android would be trying to send/receive info from a program that does not exist anymore and upon not getting what it wants would FC.
If you don't like having to restore everything, then wait from ICS until you see a few no wipe updates. Aside from SGSICS (since it is pure ASOP, and least likely to have any major changes) they all have a fair amount of developing yet to be done.
Now to the question of which type of backup . A nandroid backup is meant to restore your phone to it's current state (minus any partition changes). Tibu is designed for something like ROM hoping, so it only saves apps and their data. To illustrate an example of how to use both: 1 make backups, 2 load ICS ROM, 3 Tibu restore user apps (and user data only), 4 toy with ROM (be it a few hours or days), 5 you don't like it and want to go back, 6 Odin/Heimdall back to GB (to fix partition sizes), 7 restore nandroid and it's like your trip to ICS never happened.
leaked from my ICS- FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.
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DaNaRkI, it's not that I don't like to restore everything (even though that's what I said), it's more like even though I have flashed a couple of times already, I'm still a little uncomfortable doing it. And I have read, I mean read for hours before I took my first step, but it seems like the more I read, I keep finding more new stuff that I probably should have known to start with. Take Nandroid and Tibu for example, I thought they worked exactly the same, but now I know, thanks to you, that there is a BIG difference. AND I learned yesterday (reading somewhere on here) to never ever restore "system data". It's a lot to keep up with if you're a blonde
Thank you for taking the time to explain, it helped a lot!