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Hey guys I have a rooted captivate running froyo. I want to try the Cognition v2.3b3 rom with lagfix, but I no idea where to start. Do I need to flash back to stock or can I just load the rom? Also I was wondering about overclocking, can I do that with this rom? Any help is appreciated. I am new to android, came from a unlocked iPhone this is way better! Thanks guys
tygoerlitz said:
Hey guys I have a rooted captivate running froyo. I want to try the Cognition v2.3b3 rom with lagfix, but I no idea where to start. Do I need to flash back to stock or can I just load the rom? Also I was wondering about overclocking, can I do that with this rom? Any help is appreciated. I am new to android, came from a unlocked iPhone this is way better! Thanks guys
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you should be able to flash over but it is considered good practice to start from stock, also i think you need ji6 froyo before jj4 froyo which cog2.3b* are based on, so the accepted proper procedure is masterclear and flash jf6 from the one click installer get android id with android id changer, flash ji6, also a one click installer, and then flash cognition. all with odin. you can clockwork recovery flash cognition but it is another proceedure to root ji6. after cognition is installed reinstall android id changer and load the id from the stock rom.
i usually flash over without lashing to stock ect unless the flash over has issues. and overclocking is handled in the kernel you need to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=828052
with odin, no .pit file needed just drop file in the pda slot and flash in download mode. overclocking is enabled by default so you need set cpu to manage it.
there is a link to an app to manage under volting, my settings are -50mv low and -75 high. it also handles the scheduler, i use cfq. anticipatory seems to work eqaully well. some suggest deadline and it may be better real world but i dont see it in benchmarks. and real world is too subject to placebo effect and coincidence.
this kernel also has a universal lag fix handled in clockworkmod recovery which replaces the stock recovery. best setting for that is no rfs jfs overkill but in the advanced settings disable bind to dbdata. it's fast! 17.299 mflops in linpack, and it's the first time that i have had a lagfix improve a linack score(at least it appears to)
Here is the steps that got me from ji6 2.2 to cog.
First if you don't already get titanium back up and back up all of your apps you don't want to loose and copy the file to your computer and remove external SD card if you have one.
Then i used the 2.1 version of odin one click to go back to 2.1 after that do a master clear then root your phone and down load rom manager. Using rom manager flash the clockwork recovory mod.
Next download cognition 2.3b3 then go back to rom manager and select install rom from sd card and find your cog rom you just down loaded and it will do the rest
Once cog is on your phone you can put you titanium backup file back on your phone and redown load titanium backup and restore all of your apps.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
@ Dani897 I do have ji6 version of froyo. So I do need to flash back to stock 2.1 or can I flash cog with the version of froyo that I am running now? Sorry for the confusion here. I would like to keep running froyo if I can. Thanks guys
tygoerlitz said:
@ Dani897 I do have ji6 version of froyo. So I do need to flash back to stock 2.1 or can I flash cog with the version of froyo that I am running now? Sorry for the confusion here. I would like to keep running froyo if I can. Thanks guys
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Check out the Cog wiki.
http://cognition.theidiotshideout.net/mw/index.php?title=Main_Page#Installation
If you have clockwork installed, you can install over any rom. I would clear data to be on the safe side, though.
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If you have clockwork installed, you can install over any rom. I would clear data to be on the safe side, though.
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no you cant. it will only work if he has 2e recovery kernel. if it was the ji6 leak then it is running 3e recovery and no matter how hard you try, it wont boot into clockwork.
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use the ODIN version of cognition. doesnt matter what rom you are on...
Ok so I am trying to flash cog via oden. I downloaded the file and am looking at the how to on the wiki but, in the wiki it says that all the files will be in the download Odin.exe PIT.pit PDA.tar PHONE.tar CSC.tar. The only files that I am seeing are the pda file the odin.exe and the pit file none of the other ones. Is this normal?
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Ok so I am trying to flash cog via oden. I downloaded the file and am looking at the how to on the wiki but, in the wiki it says that all the files will be in the download Odin.exe PIT.pit PDA.tar PHONE.tar CSC.tar. The only files that I am seeing are the pda file the odin.exe and the pit file none of the other ones. Is this normal?
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Yes. That's what is supposed to be there. That's all you need for that particular rom
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Cool thanks a lot for your help. Just to make sure before I do this. I did a back up using tibu, Im going to pull the sim, open odin, and flash. Is it really that easy or am I missing something? Thanks guys I really appreciate it.
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Cool thanks a lot for your help. Just to make sure before I do this. I did a back up using tibu, Im going to pull the sim, open odin, and flash. Is it really that easy or am I missing something? Thanks guys I really appreciate it.
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Its really that easy
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Cool gonna do it now. Will post results
Ok just flashed and that went well, but it wont let me open any apps. For example when I try to open up tibu it tells me I have to force close. I also dont have 3g
i dont know if there that is a common issue, but im sure you will need to reflash. you may want to flash to stock.
it's a multi step procedure and annoying but it is usually safer , i guess i got lucky.
i dont know for sure if you need to flash ji6 before cog 2.3b, design gears may have fixed that, i didn't read the details of why it was needed.
i would;
(optional)master clear, remove sim and sdcard. you will loose everything including titanium backups and posibly nand backups. master clear is done with the phone booted normally.
flash jf6
flash cognition 2.2 by meathod of your choice (so you have root and clockwork recovery)
flash cog 2.3b3 in clockwork mod recovery.
I don't know iflosing every thing is worth it for me, I really do want to flash this rom and try it out, but right now seems risky, I flashed back to froyo that I was running before. I thibk I'm going to do some more research and see what I can find. Thanks for all your help guys
Hi. I wanted to get a quick taste of Gingerbread a month or so ago, and tried the RC release of Darky's 10 version rom (I flashed RC3, and haven't installed anything newer after that).
Since then, lots of progress has been made on CM7/MIUI front. I want to try them. Thing is, all of the tutorials (both for CM7 and MIUI) say something like "make sure You have Froyo bootloaders" or something similar. And I have Android 2.3.3 right now. Do I need to downgrade to some kind of Froyo rom first? I am scared of doing this alone unguided - I almost bricked my phone once when flashing Darky's v10 through Odin.
Help appreciated!
PS The process looks generally the same for both MIUI and CM7, right? That's why I put them both in this thread.
PPS I don't care about my data - it can all get wiped.
Yeah you need to flash a froyo with FROYO BOOTLOADERS Make sure you do this. Go to samfirmware and get I think it was JPU or whichever has the bootloaders. After that flash speedmod froyo kernel. Then make a backup.
Once you do that, get ROM manager in the market and select CM7. If you don't want to buy Rom manager (you should though because it will make updating to the nightlies very easy) go to CWM and flash normally
Easy wasn't it
Easiset way to make sure that you have Froyo bootlaoders installed:
Flash EZBase - this can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991792&highlight=Ezbase
Then simply download the files required and forllow the relevant instructions for that particular rom.
I flashed my phone with CM7 successfully with the help of EZBase! Thanks!
Hey guys so I managed to upgrade my ROGERS captivate to stock 2.3.3
and succesfully rooted it. And I'm noticing lags and in general, it's slower than my older stock 2.2 with One Click Lag Fix..
I used to score almost 2k on 2.2
but now with rooted 2.3.3 I only score 1k. Is there some sort of lagfix I can do to make it less laggy and more fluid/smooth? Or should I just go back to stock 2.2 and lag fix it?
No Only 2.3.3 native rom to use lag fix was Cognition 5. That was KF1.
Uhm what does that mean? I'm kind of new.. so is that a custom ROM or something? if it is, can I flash it on a ROGERS captivate?
Any rom made for or ported to I897 would work on your I896. If you are going to move to a rom I would recommend Fasty KI2 that has Voodoo, or Fusion roms.
Thank'd
this is what you're talking about right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283828
I kind of know how to flash custom ROM's but I'm not sure what
"YOU MUST HAVE GB BOOTLOADERS" means >.>
I know that I have to get stock 2.1 and root it and then flash it...
No dont go back to stock. If you want flash a stock KI2 or KH3 with out bootloaders and use Boog's cwm kernel and flash fasty.
uhm.. to be honest I don't really know what that means @[email protected]
but wouldn't this work?http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
I'm thinking just getting stock 2.1 then rooting it and then flashing...
seems more simple o:
so would this work?
For froyo roms ya. For Gingerbread is a whole other can of worms. If you are already on Gingerbread then just flash a kernel with cwm (not sure what gb you are on) and factory reset, wipe cache, wipe Dalvik and flash rom.
I tried installing CWM recovery with ROM manager but
when i press it it says confirm phone model and
galaxy s i9000, nexus and other phones show but not
captivate.. and which kernal do I have to flash?
Read READ READ READ READ READ and read some more. If you don't know what gb bootloaders are that should at least have 15min of reading by it self. Also, read the stickies (the posts with thumbtacks) in the development section.
Rom manager is useless. You need too flash a Kernel with CWM cooked in it. With either kernel flasher (app), ODIN or Heimdall.
T-T I poked around and read some threads.. but I'm not sure what my GB bootloaders are T-T i'll list some stuff and maybe that is the GB thing
PDA:1896UXKH2
PHONE:1896UXKH2
CSC: I896RWCKH2
T-T
so I just find any kernal with CWM and then flash it using odin?
and if i do use odin do i use .pit file?
You are on Rogers Gingerbread. You have GB bootloaders. Flash KH3 with out bootloaders found here, Then flash kernel found here (use the ODIN KH3 one). Use CWM do a factory reset, wipe cache and wipe Dalvik cache then flash Fasty or wich ever rom you like and Profit. If you going to use a Fasty with Voodoo, these kernels take a long time to boot and if voodoo is enabled you will hear chirping and take even longer.
This ins't the only way, its what I would do atleast.
Thanks so much I'll try it as soon as I get home
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Uhm.. you put the same links twice i think both of them are
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233620
Kernel is this. You can use the search in the dev section.
Thanks! I'm going to try it now
I'll post results shortly after
I successfully flashed kernal and I hace cwm recovery now but
I can't download the fantasy 3 :/ the link is broken..
Fantasy? Im going to assume Fasty?
Edit: it seems his site is down. Going to have to wait for it.
yea I meant fasty*
I guess I'll have to wait then since fasty looks like the best option out there :/
Hi guys, I'm new here and have been scouring the forums on how to do things but I keep getting caught with uncertainties.
I have an i896 Samsung Galaxy S Captivate with a Rogers 2.3.3 Gingerbread installed.
I have rooted it with no issues and its also unlocked.
What I want to do:
1. CyanogenMod 7
2. Overclock the CPU
But what I don't know is...
1. Since i'm running a Rogers ROM, do I have to flash to an AT&T ROM then to any custom ROM?
2. I read the instructions on how to update to the CM7 ROM but every instruction I read says I must have Froyo/Eclair to goto CM7. So do I downgrade and if so, how can I do that? I tried and what ends up happening is the phone's reception bars have an X and data doesn't work either. In the phone About properties, states that the baseband is "unknown". I suspect I need something more than a stock Rogers ROM without bootloaders. I couldn't find a 2.1 or 2.2 stock Rogers ROM with bootloders.
3. For overclocking, I installed Voltage Control and Control Freak and neither let me overclock, the max CPU is 1000Mhz. I assume I need a custom Kernal to do this but haven't been able to find how to do this during the CM7 upgrade.
I just need someone to point me in the right direction on what order to do all this and whether me having a Rogers stock 2.3.3 ROM causes an issue. I've done a lot of reading on these forums so its not like I just signed up and wanted to know the easy way out. I simply want the proper way to do things so I don't repeat the same mistakes many people may have done in the past.
I have used Odin, Heimdall, Odin One Click, Super One Click for rooting.
Hopefully someone can guide me in the right direction and help me achieve these goals!
You dont need to go back to Froyo, as GB bootloader is compatible. but you need CWM to flash CM7. you can use Rom Manager app to flash the CWM.
Just download CM7 zip file, wipe data, system and cache and install it using CWM. It comes with custom kernel so you can overclock it using those apps you mentioned. You can also flash Glitch kernel....
See that's what i've been trying to do but when it comes to installing the nightly rom in zip format, it tells me the signature failed.
Do I need to buy the premium version of rom manager or can I get away with the free version? I don't want to use my credit card, i rather wait until paypal is implemented with android market.
This is so frustrating...
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See that's what i've been trying to do but when it comes to installing the nightly rom in zip format, it tells me the signature failed.
Do I need to buy the premium version of rom manager or can I get away with the free version? I don't want to use my credit card, i rather wait until paypal is implemented with android market.
This is so frustrating...
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You need to Odin flash a custom kernel that has CWM in it and then install the zip from CWM. I don't know if all kernels for the i897 are compatable with i896 just have to read. I
Currently Fusionized
Wdustin1 said:
You need to Odin flash a custom kernel that has CWM in it and then install the zip from CWM. I don't know if all kernels for the i897 are compatable with i896 just have to read. I
Currently Fusionized
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Ya that's what I don't know either...I read tons of threads where people with i896 Rogers roms tried to flash with AT&T based roms or i897 roms and either bricked their phones or made a mess that took much more to get them back to stock...problem is the people that have i896 roms here I can't contact until I hit 10 posts...so I'm here stuck until then...
Just flash a custom I897 kernel with cwm, once complete, yank battery, replace and button combo boot into recovery and flash the ROM. Whichever kernel you choose doesn't really matter as zip will flash a compatible kernel, the I896 and I897 are identical other than cosmetic branding.
I was on stock rogers 2.3.3.
Installed Sumari kernel. Booted into the sumari recovery, installed CM7 zip, the phone rebooted into cwm recovery, and continued installing.
It worked pretty smoothly.
okay so i flashed my phone with a stock 2.3.5 rom with CWM, but how do I update to CM7? When i boot into recovery the only option I have is reinstall package. Do i rename the CM7 zip file to update.zip and that should work? I'm so lost...
In CWM recovery you need to choose install zip from sdcard, make sure you are in fact in cwm recovery
Before you do that....you need to flash a kernel with Odin that has cwm in it...
Woo! that worked like a charm haha yea baby yea!! Thank you soo much!! i was so scared to flash my cappy going from Rogers to AT&T that it would brick the phone. Got CM7 with Glitch Kernel and overclocked to 1.4 sawweeeeet!!
Now time to fiddle around and customize!
Thanks everyone!!
Hello dear XDA peeps
I need some help here or maybe I dont, thats why Im asking!
I rooted and followed all the guides a couple of months back, must be over half a year, and installed ICS Stunner 1.4.19. At that time that was simply the most interesting for my Note. These days when more stable ICS roms seem much more appealing. Altho Im thinking Im waiting for a stable working beta for JB
Since I havent done some ROM loving for quite a while Im quite confused where to begin, do I need to upgrade CWM Manager first? I have version 3.15. Or can I go straight on new ROMs? I spent some time reading about updating CWM today and it seems I have a really dangerous kernel version, 3.0.15-I9220ZLP5-CL295568 and if I understand the CWM Manager thread correctly thats part of the dangerous kernels. Which seems quite dangerous to update it since I cant find a safe version of CWM Manager to update to.
So the bottom question, do I need to update CWM Manager first to do anything safe or update the kernel first to perhaps an old safe rooted GB kernel? All the guides and stuff says the safest way is to first install an old safe GB kernel and then install a ICS or JB kernel (not at the moment tho) but is this the truth in my case?
Anyway, I really appreciate if you could give me some advice here
Thanx in advance
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Hello dear XDA peeps
I need some help here or maybe I dont, thats why Im asking!
I rooted and followed all the guides a couple of months back, must be over half a year, and installed ICS Stunner 1.4.19. At that time that was simply the most interesting for my Note. These days when more stable ICS roms seem much more appealing. Altho Im thinking Im waiting for a stable working beta for JB
Since I havent done some ROM loving for quite a while Im quite confused where to begin, do I need to upgrade CWM Manager first? I have version 3.15. Or can I go straight on new ROMs? I spent some time reading about updating CWM today and it seems I have a really dangerous kernel version, 3.0.15-I9220ZLP5-CL295568 and if I understand the CWM Manager thread correctly thats part of the dangerous kernels. Which seems quite dangerous to update it since I cant find a safe version of CWM Manager to update to.
So the bottom question, do I need to update CWM Manager first to do anything safe or update the kernel first to perhaps an old safe rooted GB kernel? All the guides and stuff says the safest way is to first install an old safe GB kernel and then install a ICS or JB kernel (not at the moment tho) but is this the truth in my case?
Anyway, I really appreciate if you could give me some advice here
Thanx in advance
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There is newer cf root that is 5.6. This is a safe rooted stock kernel by chainfire with CWM manager.
The devs suggest when installing TW ics custom rom it is recommended to install it while already in ics rom.
First install stock gingerbread rom, while in gingerbread rom do the wiping data,cache, and dalvik and then flash ics rom for clean installation. DO NOT WIPE IN STOCK ICS ROM, DANGEROUS. READ THE WARNING IN THE FORUM.
You can choose any tw custom rom you like.
If you want suggestion on what custom rom just ask i gave you one.
Ok, still not sure what do to first but it is safe to install a GB rom first? Updating CWM isn't that important? What I meant was that I still cant find a fitting version to install. Nearest version is: CF-Root-SGN_DD_ODD_LP8-v5.5-CWM5.zip but thats on the danger list so Im still confused about what version to download.. :/
Perhaps CF-Root-SGN_DD_ODD_LP8-v5.6-CWM5.zip is safe to install tho?
EDIT: I saw that I had cf-root version 5.2, it was CWM Manager that was version 3.15
EDIT: getting a new baseband comes with a rom, no need to install baseband seperatly? For example, getting Cassie's XtraLiteRom Version X LC1 295Mb is getting my baseband LC1 too?
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Ok, still not sure what do to first but it is safe to install a GB rom first? Updating CWM isn't that important? What I meant was that I still cant find a fitting version to install. Nearest version is: CF-Root-SGN_DD_ODD_LP8-v5.5-CWM5.zip but thats on the danger list so Im still confused about what version to download.. :/
Perhaps CF-Root-SGN_DD_ODD_LP8-v5.6-CWM5.zip is safe to install tho?
EDIT: I saw that I had cf-root version 5.2, it was CWM Manager that was version 3.15
EDIT: getting a new baseband comes with a rom, no need to install baseband seperatly? For example, getting Cassie's XtraLiteRom Version X LC1 295Mb is getting my baseband LC1 too?
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You can flash the cassies custom rom directly over the stunner rom if you want to, just be sure to use ABYSS KERNEL for wiping.
Base band also known as modem. There are many flashable modem to choose so no problem what modem you Want.
If you want to install cassies latest custom rom you will get also the latest CWM recovery and manager.
Uhm ok.. so much information Im confused as usual
I cant find exactly abyss kernel. Can it be this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362424/
And can I flash all roms via CWM or do I have to use PC ODIN?
EDIT: found the abyss note kernel, really slow downloading tho.
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You can flash the cassies custom rom directly over the stunner rom if you want to, just be sure to use ABYSS KERNEL for wiping.
Base band also known as modem. There are many flashable modem to choose so no problem what modem you Want.
If you want to install cassies latest custom rom you will get also the latest CWM recovery and manager.
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Uhm ok.. so much information Im confused as usual
I cant find exactly abyss kernel. Can it be this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362424/
And can I flash all roms via CWM or do I have to use PC ODIN?
EDIT: found the abyss note kernel, really slow downloading tho.
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Go to cassies thread there is ABYSS there to download and operating procedure on how to install safely.
maybe this will help?
hey,
watch the vids from Cursed4eva on youtube - this one in particular
he is very clear and shows you what to do.
Thanx peeps!! Now Im off to messing with Parandroid Thanx again!